Romeo Crennel and the Kansas City Chiefs make the right call
by Flowers24 on Jan 12, 2012 6:19 PM CST
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Romeo Crennel has his second head coaching position. The Kansas City Chiefs have their 12th head coach in franchise history. Whether the pairing works or not is to be seen in the near and perhaps distant future. However, both made the right choice in the current times.
For Crennel, this move is a no-brainer. He gets a shot at redemption after ultimately failing in his first chance with the Cleveland Browns. The man has five Super Bowl rings and yet has so much to prove. All of those championships of course can via the assistant coach route. While the jewelry looks the same the feeling of accomplishment and place in history most certainly isn't.
For the Chiefs, how could you go in another direction? The team has been a coaching carousel since the days of Marty Schottenheimer and for the most part, a doormat. Finally, a young and talented nucleus has been put in place. The time has come for some continuity and consistency in the coaching ranks. Scott Pioli had to stabilize the team with this hire. He's done that.
Sure, Kansas City could have thrown money at a veteran coach (Jeff Fisher, Jon Gruden) or tried to hire a young assistant. Maybe those things would've worked out, but i doubt it. The team would have to go through another future change and no doubt a reshaping of the roster. It would be tougher to keep Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Carr especially if an unproven coach was brought in.
This team is built to win now, even with the quarterback situation in limbo. The defense is championship caliber with the return of Eric Berry and the offense is loaded with weapons. Hiring Crennel allows the Chiefs to continue on the same path defensively and hear a familiar message in the locker room. These things cannot be understated.
Some will point out that the offense is still going to be affected and changed. That needs to happen anyway even if Todd Haley had been retained. Bill Muir clearly wasn't the answer as an old and at out-of-touch offensive coordinator. Changing schemes and philosophy isn't going to be a burden on that group; it will be taking one off their shoulders.
This hiring comes with some risk. It can't be ignored that Crennel was fired in his first and only head coaching job. On the flip side, you could easily argue who has ever won in Cleveland since it became an NFL franchise again? We're about to find out which factor was more responsible.
Crennel is the ultimate roll of the dice and safest move at the same time. It's the right decision. Let's just hope it doesn't come up snake eyes.
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Hey, OT
did anyone listen to BCarr on Wright’s show tonight? I don’t see any news coming out of it, so I assume nothing big was revealed.
I heard the tail end and then Nick's comments.
I guess the most telling is that Carr wanted to sign before last season. Pioli’s unwillingness to do so is going to cost the team, if Carr comes back. Made it sound like he wanted to be in KC but that he wouldn’t be taking much of a discount to do so, nor should he.
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Hmmm,
I don’t know that I’d put too terribly much into the timing. He waited with Tamba Hali as well. Tamba wanted to sign before the lockout and not be franchised, but it happened and then Tamba got paid.
He could be the guy we franchise, though…
NW'S point is
That Scott could have signed him for a helluva lot cheaper (in the 5 yr 25 mil. Range) not so much anymore
by chiefnation on Jan 12, 2012 7:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's true.
He’s more valuable now. You could say that about any player who has his best year in a contract year. Of course, he didn’t know he was going to have his best year.
He is
FUCKIN’ Scott Pioli GOD of NFL GM’s he should have KNOWN
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
but then there is bowe? scott better not screw this up we need them both!!!!!
by Micheal Pearson on Jan 12, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
I just hope he stays in KC...he obviously proved himself
and gave himself a bigger pay check in my opinion. Pioli better get this done!
by jcrunninwild on Jan 12, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Made it sound like he was going to look out for #1.
That Pioli had his chance for a discount and that time has passed. Of course none of that was said explicitly so mouth breathers will probably be up in arms.
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
It's not my fault I have a deviated septum.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Oh, but we always assume Pioli means
something other than what he says, right?
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
I can't say I blame Pioli for not giving Carr a long term deal sooner
He only this season became consistent about getting his head around most of the time, and still wasn’t the corner Flowers is. Priorities.
Hindsight being what it is, it would’ve been a good move to long him up long term. At the time, though, I can see why the hesitation.
“No hometown discount” could mean almost anything. Does he view himself as the equal to Flowers? If so, we’ll have to pay him as much.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Why Not
He gave up less TD’s this season.
Paying them equally seems fair to me
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
But he was far inferior against the run
Which is a big deal to me.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
yup no doubt about that and b flow
And another thing I like about Carr is, somebody in the kc media (I think Mitch holthus) said he thinks Carr is the strongest pound for pound on the team.
by chiefnation on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah
But we had the damn money. Its a mistake pioli should learn from. Could of for sure locked him up and for a lot less.
by chiefnation on Jan 12, 2012 7:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure I buy into that argument
Just because you have the money doesn’t mean you spend it.
I personally am all for getting him re-signed, though.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
mouth breathers usually say
Hunt is too cheap and Pioli is stupid, so you’ve got that going for you
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
He also commented on how he felt like he had some unfinished business with regards to winning with the rest of the secondary he's grown so close with
And that he loves Kansas City, and would love to come back. But, yes, he does want to assess his worth on the open market.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
Crennel does make the most sense for the current scenario
The chances of KC landing Fischer, Gruden, or Cowher were pretty weak from the start. Even if the Chiefs had gone all in its a bit unrealistic to expect great results the first couple of years. It would take at least two years for the team to be great again because the entire scheme and feel of the team would have changed. By that point, some of our best players would be starting the downward slide of their career. Sure they would still be good players, but the window of opportunity would be narrower, and who knows which free agents would have decided to stay or leave.
I like our team. I think we have some great players that don’t get enough coverage in the spot light. Because the team believes in Crennel and supports him, chances are eveyone is willing to fight hard for him. Who knows how players would react to the other choices? Although Crennel doesn’t seem like a great hire because of his time at Cleveland, I feel he really was the best candidate for this team going forward. Only time will tell how true that really is.
by Nathan4288 on Jan 12, 2012 6:36 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
we are 30 mill under the cap and pioli can't figure out a contract for carr
what more does pioli have to see in carr. total bs by chief management
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
If he lets him go, it'll be a huge mistake.
However, he’d shoot back about how much they already have invested in the secondary and how they have to worry about other positions as well.
yeah but u just don't go out and find talent like carr
I think carr was a 4th or 5th rd pick for kc
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 12, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
5th rounder
Pay the men
Jamaal Charles is here to kick ass and chew bubble gum; and he's all outta bubble gum.
by His Royal Greatness on Jan 12, 2012 6:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly, you got a few years out of him below market value...pay the man
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
You don't pay a gut retroactively
You pay him if he’s worth the money he’s asking.
If the dude wants Aso or Revis money, then the answer should be no (as long as they’re planning on spending it elsewhere)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Agree on that
Aso and Revis should not have got that money either :)
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
I wish we had given him #1 money and let Flowers walk if that was the choice.
Not that I don’t like Flowers, but who played better?
In 2010?
That’s debatable. In any case, we need both.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
That's true.
2010 was Flowers, 2011 was Carr.
My question will be, if we let Carr go, what the heck were we saving that cap money for? It sure wasn’t some awesome quarterback. BJ Kissel had a good article that asked how are we going to hit the salary floor if we don’t pay our guys.
PFF has Flowers ranked considerably higher than Carr...
Top 5 in the NFL, actually.
A big part of it is that Flowers is excellent against the run, while Carr is subpar.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Carr is six damn feet tall
who gives a shit if he is sub-par against the run? We’ve got T-Jax for that.
guffaw
Who is gonna cover the six foot five receivers in the division? Hmmmm?
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Flowers has done just fine against those receivers
At least as well as Carr.
And it’s foolish to not care if your players are one-dimensional. Stopping the run and tackling ability is an important part of a CB’s job.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
by MNchiefsfan on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
True
and we have even more than that available to spend.
We could spend up to 150 Million if I read correctly that 2011 cap can be carried over into 2012
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
We'd have to give Carr a 5 year contract worth probably $35 mil minimum....
That’s what he’s worth, probably closer to $40 mil. Some team might offer him $50 mil+. We’ll have to see.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon(in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Just do it
our newest QB will cost peanuts
Tannyhill or Foles or hey that Boise State kid
Osweiler or some other 6’8 dude
…..
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
when will you all figure out
a damn fifth rounder can’t play in the nfl?
/yates
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
As long as he gets the oc hire right, he will be successful.
He needs to hire a qualified oc, and let him run it. No more r2p2, sure a good run game is a defenses good friend, points are their best friend! Get the o-line what it needs, Orton at qb. Cassel could be the downfall of RAC.
When will the Chiefs be a winning franchise again?
by Eric Allen on Jan 12, 2012 6:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Orton < Cassel
"...and we're gonna be ready for them"!
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck".
Carrs deal is going to boil down to whether or not Pioli want's 25-28M$/season wrapped up in his secondary starters.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Why in the hell
Would he split up the best cb tandem in the NFL?! This defense is very close to being top in the league, gotta keep it together!
When will the Chiefs be a winning franchise again?
by Eric Allen on Jan 12, 2012 6:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What Position per history does the Chiefs have a claim to fame in?
Cornerbacks
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
And LBs
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 12, 2012 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
for other teams
Lilja
that Mormon Dude
that Guard that went to Houston
well sorta
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
don't forget john alt
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 12, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
we do have 52 years or so of History
The Chiefs have usually sported a Great secondary, far more than a great O-line
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
TE's
2010 = The beginning of a dynasty
by ChiefWildcat on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
For a guy that has never missed a game to injury, and has started every game, as a 5th rounder...
I’d say he deserves it.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
And Pioli should agree :-)
Detroit’s DLine, NE’s QB, Pittsburg’s LBs… Kansas City’s secondary. Gotta keep it in tack.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
Fifth damn rounders cannot play the game!
Haven’t you heard?
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
or watch carr replacement give up a TD all the time
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Is there any news of
Contract talks with Bowe, or Carr ongoing? They are both key to this team. Carr moreso than Bowe.
When will the Chiefs be a winning franchise again?
by Eric Allen on Jan 12, 2012 6:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Pretty sure the Chiefs might be working on
some coaching stuff…
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
RAC is right if we can get the right OC
We need a good one, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. DC is less of a problem with RAC calling the plays. An upgrade at OLC to go along with an upgraded OLine (hope, hope).
Could use a QB coach with a good track record of developing rookies, if not for this year, for next.
Needs for 2012:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker
Quarterback
by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 12, 2012 6:49 PM CST reply actions
On another related unrelated coaching note
Detroit rewarded Gunther an extension after getting blown away by a backup QB and giving up 5 TDs in 5 possesions to end their season.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Same ole Lions, I guess.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Is he still wearing the tinted safety shades?
Like he plans to go shoot trap after practice.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
by ExRoyalsFan on Jan 12, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought about going w/ “shooting skeet”, but knowing how these AP’ers are, I figured I should stay away from that. Let the fun begin.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
Skeet, Skeet, Skeet! I'm Reeeaahch Beeaaahtch!
"...and we're gonna be ready for them"!
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck".
Since most of the AP hates Cassel,
I will go on record and say I like Cassel. At the end of next year I predict we will win the Division with Cassel.
I hear we can’t win a playoff game with Cassel, if Seattle can win a playoff game last year and Tebow win a playoff game this year, I believe Cassel will win a least one playoff game next year.
Maybe I will be eating crow next year or maybe the Cassel non supporters will be eaating crow. I just want to show my support for Cassel.
by rdlvegas85 on Jan 12, 2012 6:50 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Is it Sheryl Crow?
Needs for 2012:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker
Quarterback
by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 13, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Last place schedule?
It’s not going to be that easy next year. First to last place won’t see much difference in the AFC West.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon(in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Have you looked at our schedule?
What is the difference between ours and the rest of the West?
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
Cassel may get his shot
Orton’s a FA, and the cold fact is that a rookie QB needs a decent Oline.
If we trade picks to get RGIII, we lessen our chances to build Oline in the long term. Ergo, you get the line first, with a long term plan and OLC, and THEN you can trade picks to get a QBotF.
My take: The Oline will get work this draft, not a QB pick. KO walks, and MC gets another shot.
Needs for 2012:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker
Quarterback
by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 12, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
I like Cassel but when the OL breaks down so does Matt Cassel. WE need a QB that will make plays when the OL breaks down. i
Matt Cassel is not that player. Matt was an improvement and serviceable as we improved from a 2-14 to a 10-6 and a 7-9 injuried football team. We now need a QB that is going to take us to the next step—which is 11-12 wins, home playoff games, playoff wins, and a possible Super Bowl Championship.
by NFL season ticket holder on Jan 12, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
O line first
You won’t get 11-12 wins behind a bad line, which is what we will have if we don’t work BOTH the draft and FA. New QB can wait (unless we can land Peyton)
Needs for 2012:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker
Quarterback
by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 12, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Not totally down on Cassel
He has had his chance, he has shown he has not grown in the last three years. It is time to move on.
When will the Chiefs be a winning franchise again?
by Eric Allen on Jan 12, 2012 7:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not at the price of a rookie QB behind a bad Oline
Needs for 2012:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker
Quarterback
by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 12, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
Personally, I don't hate him, I just think he's not going to get any better.
He’s an average at best QB who has struggled when playing without Randy Moss or Jamaal Charles. Thankfully we’ll have Charles back next year, but our lives would be a lot easier if we could upgrade the position. The goal should be to win the Super Bowl, and Cassel is the type of QB who we could win it with, but we require a lot of talent around him. We’d be better off taking a risk at QB, either by starting Stanzi or signing Manning or drafting a new guy, than to be content with mediocrity.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Jan 12, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
You certainly aren’t looking for friends on here.
I will go on record and say I like Cassel.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
Sure he will.
I like Cassel.
I just don’t think he should be our starting QB.
Foxtrot Alpha November - Sierra Hotel Oscar Tango!
I like Cassel too. He seems like a nice guy and a fierce competitor. But he’s not a starting QB, and the sooner the Chiefs realize that, the better off they would be. There’s a reason the chiefs offense improved the moment he was gone, and a proper QB was inserted.
??????????!!!!!!!!!
There’s a reason the chiefs offense improved the moment he was gone
I’ll have some of what you’re smokin’!
"...and we're gonna be ready for them"!
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck".
There’s a reason the chiefs offense improved the moment he was gone, and a proper QB was inserted.
Just out of curiosity …
Are you referring to the appendix-removal game last year with Brodie vs. San Diego? Or, the ‘era of Palko’ this year?
You’ll have to understand, some people get all worked up midway through a sentence, and HAVE respond immediately.
True. I'm probably setting the bar a little high for these parts.
Entirely my mistake.
Foxtrot Alpha November - Sierra Hotel Oscar Tango!
I like Matt too hes a good QB but hes underdeveloped in certain areas and at his age I dont he can improve with us as hes basically never been challenged to improve
The pressure will be on if he struggles early in camp and the start of the season and he will essentially be the scapegoat and the chatter will be about why we didnt bring back Orton .
by Willie Beamon on Jan 12, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
what should help in signing carr is the fact that RAC is the head coach
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
I aprove.
I really don’t think it matters that much. When healthy, we have enough talent to be a good team and are a good QB away from being one of the best teams. So we don’t need the greatest coach ever, we just need somebody who isn’t going to screw it up, so Romeo is a fine choice.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Jan 12, 2012 6:59 PM CST reply actions
Cowher or Fisher
were the better calls but if those two were unattainable, then RAC really was the only choice remaining and time will tell if his soft player’s coach rep from his Cleveland days is accurate or not. I’ll be crossing my fingers for him for sure. But he’s not going to win a lot of playoff games with Matt Cassel although if they solidify the OL and JC stays healthy and we can have a short yardage back who actually gets first downs, then we can win the AFC West even with MC. It’s a very weak division. I for one want us to not be one-and-done in the playoffs anymore, so sticking with MC is a waste of all this roster’s talent. With Orton, we’d probably get at least two more wins a season than with MC and with Manning, good God we could become an unstoppable playoff powerhouse. When has Manning ever had a 12th-ranked defense backing him up? I can dream, right?
tell me who Cowher and Fisher are coaching in 2012?
I’ll wait.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Fisher is coaching either STL or MIA
Decision will probably come any day now – at least it’s expected to.
Cowher – too comfy sitting in front of a teleprompter.
Foxtrot Alpha November - Sierra Hotel Oscar Tango!
Have you noticed that neither Miami or St Louis seem to be beating Fisher's door down?
How long has it been since he interviewed there and, yet, neither team is reported to have even made him an offer?
Fisher isn’t a good coach, and even Miami and St Louis seem to think they can do better.
Eh, from what I'm hearing around here - it's more of a case that it's Fisher's decision and that both teams want him
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damn, Flowers ... going out on a limb with yet another controversial post, I see :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
One name: Bill Belichik
His first job as a head coach was in Cleveland, results: Five seasons, one winning season.
Secon job as a head coach is in New England, results: Twelve seasons, eleven winning seasons, and three super bowl wins.
Maybe Crennel is doing the same procedure in his career.
Forget not that Belicheck has a guy named TOM BRADY. That helps. Belicheck would NOT have won 3 super bowl rings with a guy name Matt Cassel.
by Coady on Jan 13, 2012 1:27 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
nor Drew Bledsoe
yep, Brady makes a whole lot of people look great, including Pioli. Don’t get me wrong, I like Pioli. But, Brady has made a lot of reputations FAR better than they would have been including Belichick. He knows it, he’ll retire the same day Brady does.
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
Marty Schottenheimer
On the flip side, you could easily argue who has ever won in Cleveland since it became an NFL franchise again?
Marty had success. .620 winning percentage and made the playoffs 4 of 5 years (didn’t make it the first year),
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
In my mushy brain, the sentence came across “Remind me, again, who has ever won..”
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
ex royalsfan, let me guess u have that screen name because u got tired of the royals trading all the good young talent away.
or is it because the royals won’t spend any money
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 12, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Well it couldn't be that the royals tickets are too expensive
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 12, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
More than anything, I think it’s the constant “We’ll be competitive in 3-5 years” mentality. That 3-5 years keeps getting pushed back. I do think they are in a good position right now, but it could be trouble when these big-shot young players come to arbitration.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
yeah i agree kind of like when clark hunt says we have a plan for the chiefs
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 12, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
What did they gain? He was already the D-Coordinator.
The only thing gained is 3 million in Clark Hunts bank.
consistency
unless you like having a new DC, OC, and HC
no word on marty getting the bucs job
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
My God we need some NEW news
Until we get OC/DC in, re-sign Bowe/Carr, and hit FA…. I just may need a new time-killer while I ride out the end of this contract.
Otherwise it’s the same conversation over and over and over again.
Ideas for changing up the stale?
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:41 PM CST reply actions
What we need
is a FanPost telling us how we can’t win without a franchise QB, and the only way to realistically get one is by trading up to the top of the draft.
You know, something different.
Nobody has got it right yet
ya know that Pioli mind meld usually turns out thoughts of Tight Ends and Matt Cassel
Yuck
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
Or a debate over who should be our HC
Or a “real fan” post
Any strong writers out there want to take a stab at a Chiefs 2011 season recap? I’m trying to get Chris Sembower to do a posterized comic graphic novel about the ups and downs of what this year has been for the team and us at AP.
Also, since MN is to longwinded eloquent for twitter, I’m thinking about setting up a fake account for him and doing funny 140 character summaries of his posts.
shh don’t tell him
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
FakeMN ?
He will sue your Chinese ? Wait ? Uh carry on :)
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
hehe
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
Season Recap:
The first two games were about as bad as could be. Not only did we get blown out, we lost two of our best players for the year. We then spent the next couple weeks beating bad teams to get back to a winning record, before blowing “easy” games to the Dolphins and Broncos, losing Cassel for the year in the process, just in time for the tough part of our schedule.
So Haley makes one of the two really bad decisions in his head coaching career by starting Palko over Stanzi (the other bad decision was Thomas Jones). Palko gets destroyed by the Pats, but surprisingly managed to make the Steelers game close and actually beat a Cutler-less Chicago team. Then we got crushed by the Jets, causing Haley to be fired, and Romeo took over.
After Romeo took over, Orton recovered from his injury and led us to a win over the Packers in a game that showed how good our defense can be when not given terrible field position by Palko. We then lost to the Raiders at home for the millionth year in a row, and beat the Broncos 7-3, showing again how dominant our defense is.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Jan 12, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
WTF?
The first two games were about as bad as could be. Not only did we get blown out, we lost two of our best players for the year. We then spent the next couple weeks beating bad teams to get back to a winning record
Hell, I’m not even high, and I know we went 0-3
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
I've really been waiting for something that maybe compares Orton and Cassel
Maybe suggesting we sign Orton and trade Cassel.
With any luck it would spawn a lengthy conversation about how they’re the same quarterback / not the answer and that we should trade up to the top of the draft for a franchise QB.
Foxtrot Alpha November - Sierra Hotel Oscar Tango!
We will do all that and then
draft a guy at the top of the 2013 draft
it is all very clear for me there
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
the best qb is orton, if we do zero upgrade at qb this year, i want to role the dice with orton
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 12, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
We could talk about who is most likely to move to L.A.
Considering that the NFL is the largest sports league in the world, that it involves the second largest city in that country and has a very high probability of happening in the next couple years, people really don’t talk about it much.
I’m thinking it will probably be the Chargers, because of their stadium situation and they probably have some sort of fanbase already in L.A. I’m hoping the Rams move, so if I ever have to spend another football season in St. Louis they will be more likely to show Chiefs games.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Jan 12, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
Chiefs roster?
we have 5 Guards at the moment, and NO Centers
lest Gafford is considered a starter
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
What's Hudson?
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
wait have I really got that wrong?
drugs are bad mmmkay
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
yeah but did it rain on THEIR cheerleaders or just ours?
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
I'd prefer wet to sweat.
But I lost track of my train of thought somewhere.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon(in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Do not put your cheerleader away Sweaty
or wet
or
…..
nevermind, it used to make sense
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 12, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
You have the money....
Pay em.
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Not to rain on everyone's parade
but Scott Pioli might see Brandon Carr the same way he viewed Asante Samuel.
Just food for thought, I really hope Brandon stays.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 12, 2012 11:28 PM CST reply actions
Pioli is a fast learner!
Pioli has to make a big splash this up coming season because he’s not getting another chance, if he’s wise, meaning able to evaluate reality based on decisions made in the past and make better one’s. We could be in for a pretty exciting year. I think he (Pioli) respects RAC opinion’s far more than Toddy (Pioli had to baby sit (control!!!) hot head Todd Haley) Haley, which could keep him away from some of his would be bad personnel decisions, regarding players of course. I think Pioli is a fast learner, we’ll see! Go Chiefs!
by absolutetruthyeahnojoke on Jan 13, 2012 1:19 AM CST reply actions
I'm Excited!
We are in for an exciting season!
by absolutetruthyeahnojoke on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 AM CST reply actions
lets just hope we dont get hit with injuries.
or we will blame romeo for that and fire him like Haley. Its been a disaster every time we hire a "players " coACH. rem Frank Ganz, Gunther Cunningham and Herm Edwards.?
I want to be optimistic about this but we hired a bandaid for a coach who is not much younger than MUIR. Ortons QB exploits have been mediocre at best and he still makes stupid decisions in the red zone and the 4th qtr.
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