Martin, Reiff, DeCastro, or Adams?

The knock on him was his lack of size and he could be injury prone. But, that’s a second issue. I would rather have a DE,NT or ILB then a guard that high

Bryan Waters went undrafted
Marshal Yanda 3rd round
Kris Dielman undrafted
Chris Snee 2nd round
Eric Steinbach 2nd round
Josh Sitton 4th round
Jon Asamoah 3rd round
Brandon moore undrafted
Chris Kemoeatu 6th round
Ryan Lilja(he was good once) undrafted
Duce Lutui 2nd round
Chris Kuper 5th round
Stephen Neal undrafted
Andy Levter 2nd round
Not to mention Logan Mankins, Ben Grubbs, Steve Hutchenson, Mike Upatti.NONE taken with the 11th pick. This is what happens, when fans don’t watch college football and rely on Mel Kiper for insight

No he can’t . It limits his value

But his attitude and off field issues are gonna drop him that low

we might be warry of trying a gamble twice, when upgrading Belcher as an UDFA should be easy to do in rounds 3-5

that 100% his anger

and those guys are still playing … they’ll work some money magic and sign all their own guys, you hide and watch

Huh, looks like if we want to get a good RT we’ll need to do it via the draft.

besides, we’ll probably have a couple of other explosions about DC and OC before then :-)

In the first round, I’m looking for guys with no holes. Much as I want a pair of franchise bookends, I’m leery of the belief that the first round brings you any guarantees. And I see a lot of teams who lock themselves in with that 1st-rounder and settle for less-than-excellent, because they invested so much. The rookie cap changes this a little bit, but if anything, it magnifies the value and power of your 1st pick.

We can look for analogies for the importance of OT excellence, but the simple fact is that this is the guy who is most likely to be alone in space against premiere athletes. Inside, the guy doesn’t need as much range, and the interior 3, like a chain of pawns, in chess, support one another. But that pawn at the tail end of the chain is all by his lonesome, and vulnerable to flank attacks.

Inside, you don’t need the quickness in space, like you do outside. And that’s always what makes or breaks most of the OT prospects of the last couple decades. Everybody gets this man-beast, who, it turns out, just isn’t quick enough for the next level. In the last COUPLE of years, I’ve seen more teams looking for players with good feet, but who maybe need to get more stout. Last year’s class was especially this way.

Anyhoo, when I look at this year’s draft class, I think I’d rather have a couple nice prospects a little later in the draft, because i don’t see a huge difference between the talents, and some of the later-round guys may have skill sets that translate as well or better to the next level, To me, the main difference between a Sanders and a Martin is that Martin will be costlier in draft coin, if he turns out to be mediocre, and it’ll be a lot tougher to make ANOTHER 1st-round pick if he doesn’t turn out to be elite.

In the first, I’d rather have the surer thing in a Decastro or Konz with my first pick, and maybe grab TWO tackles, like Sanders and Massie or… with about the same probability of being as good as a Martin, but less regret if it turns out the guy’s just a G.

You could make a strong case for starting right out in 2009 with mean and nasty mauling tackles, whose downside would be G, and give yourself 4 or 5 or even 6 shots at OT upgrade, by this point in Pioli’s tenure. At worst getting damn good guards, and some real flexibility in a pinch. But Pioli didn’t do that, so there’s only room for one more pass with that tactic.

I see Decastro as close to a max upside with very high floor. But I’ll be happy as long as I see real attention paid to OL. I’m not as down on B-Rich as some, here, because I see the problems in the middle as more glaring. I can give him outside help, if need be, and Cassel’s pretty good at dealing with that outside pass rusher, if that’s all he has to deal with, as long as the tackle manages to send him wide and deep.

We talk about Tait and Roaf in the running game, and while that KC O-Line was top-notch in the run game, that was more about pulling guards, patient running, and SERIOUS power-running threats up the middle, which made it easier for ’em to get outside on those beautiful sweeps. What was special about having Roaf and Tait was when it came down to the short strokes in the passing game, and your guy just has to win outside. They both pretty much did.

I think the guy needs to be a beast in the run game, for sure, but what makes him elite is how he stands up in pass pro’ against the best. Any time you’re elite outside, you have a BIG advantage. The thing is, a LOT of teams end up settling for GOOD, because they think that 1st-rounder is gonna be elite, and they can spend years kidding themselves, or be surprised when it takes a couple years for the guy to be merely GOOD.

Like I said above, I’d’ve taken 4 or 5 shots, by now, in the 1st 3 rounds for OLs, emphasizing bruisers in 2nd and 3rd with excellent G as their downside. Folks might think I’m foolish about it, but after THREE YEARs, I bet they’d be a whole lot better than what Pioli’s produced, and Decastro would be of interest mainly as trade bait for the trade-down. Now, in this 4th go-round, Pioli’s still hurtin’ in the middle and at RT. There HAS to be some urgency, now, and little room for error, which has me thinking, again, about Decastro, but also Konz, Osemele, Sanders, and others. Other than Konz and Decastro, there ain’t a one of ‘em that I wouldn’t want at least an insurance pick or a better veteran for the guy to play behind in his rookie year.

I don’t see (m)any of these tackles after Kalil as somebody I’d want to bet on as an immediate starter, and I REALLY want the Chiefs to START the season BETTER than where they are, now. Decastro/Konz give me that, with high certainty. The tackles, I can see it becoming another year of Sackintosh, with guys like me counseling patience with the young man, but FUMING because they just figured a 1st-rounder ought to start, whether he’s worth a damn or not.

Which plays a huge role in drafts.

And honestly, I’m curious how much having an all universe QB playing behind them helps them look a little better than they are.

That said, I’d be thrilled if we stole Nicks.

he has the tools, but … it’s that “but” that worries me

looking at a guy like Burfict this year, he’s even more worrisome than Baldwin, by far

wish Kuechly was just a bit bigger or stronger or faster (ok, all three but I don’t want to appear greedy) he’d be perfect for us, and I love the guy’s smarts and character

just that he does have some skill catching footballs.

I just wish our QB had skills throwing footballs