Sounds Like Changes Are Coming To The Chiefs Offensive Line
by Joel Thorman on Jan 11, 2012 6:10 PM CST
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Hudson to center
Jon to left guard and fix right side with new, maybe put lilja to right side
by Bilk on Jan 11, 2012 6:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'd rather just keep Asamoha at RG
You don’t want too much change.
Hopefully we can find a strong brawling LG like Asamoha in the draft or FA. That along with Hudson at center will really help this line and particularly help the power running game. Obviously we still need to address RT, but at least with tackles you can always have a TE or RB help.
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I'm not a big fan of drafting a Guard high in the first round, but...
David DeCastro would be a starter at LG, while KC could easily get Andrew Datko in the 3rd, to take over at Right Tackle. That Leaves the 2nd round for a bonus… Like a RB or TE, or maybe a ILB. I don’t see anything at WR after the 1st round. Last year was better. OT, RB, and CB are the most plentiful talent this year. There’s a lot of defensive talent this year, but it’s scattered among several positions in various rounds. This should be Pioli’s best draft. If he plays his cards right in rounds 1 & 2, some of his best deals will be in 3, 4, and 5.
by David Winton on Jan 11, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
and I wouldn't bother with a RB in the 2nd ...
TE: Dwayne Allen would be so nice, but he’s gone in the 1st … Fleener maybe in 2nd, or depth in Secondary at CB or S … just a thought
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That Fleener does have good hands and is not a bad blocker, I'd give up a third rounder for that guy.
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Even an imbecile like me has been harping on this particulat topic for more than 2 years.
How long has Scotty been here? If he can get a starting RT, that will give him much flexibility in the draft. Add a starting Center to the mix and we will have a chance to kick butt in the AFC West next year.
Call me crazy....
But I’ve always believed in getting a TRUE Left tackle and move Fat albert to guard where he belongs. We need a franchise left tackle. I’ve always liked Mike adams from Ohio state to play right tackle. I hope the Chiefs really make this happen because this team would take off for sure. Get some new O Lineman as well as maybe peyton manning this is the chiefs 1993 season all over again maybe better.
you mean aside from the fact that Albert played better than at least 27 of the NFL starting LT's
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by IPWT2009 on Jan 11, 2012 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Thanks for commenting, Crazy
I see your sentiments fall right in line with your namesake.
Albert is just fine at LT. LG, C, and RT are the positions that need addressed. We MAY have the C spot already on the roster, but that’s an unknown at this point.
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by His Royal Greatness on Jan 11, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
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We MAY have a C spot already on the roster
But i sure do like Konz out of Wisconsin.
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how is he in terms of pulling and movement along the line? big strong, I know ... can he move his feet?
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Not sure ups
I’ve seen the you tube videos, the scouting reports, and all the hardware that came with his many accomplishments. Let me investigate some more, cause you’re right. With the ZB scheme, it’s important.
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That scheme is far too restrictive.
It actually sucks for short yardage and goal to go plays. I see the proof every sunday. Drop that shit like it’s hot!
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I don't think the scheme is the issue there ... I think having a 39 year old C and a weak LG is the real problem
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This
Lilja is crafty but can be outmatched and has not looked as good in front of someone not named Peyton Manning
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
It also requires those quick UNDERSI2ED linemen
who get BLOWN OFF THE LOS when the ball is snapped in short yardage. Beef and a half, BB, drop one!
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Ups
I just watched a couple more videos, namely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPMVloAiCTA
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo4Ct96jlEc
He’s obviously an ox when it comes to man-blocking. He does, from time to time, overextend himself and loses his base. That’s coaching, no biggie.
You asked if he can pull? Yes, he’s actually pretty quick at it and gets to the hole well before the RB does on a couple of occasions in the videos.
His movement along the line is impressive and his blocking at the next level is crushing… when he makes contact. I’ve seen him wiff a couple of times in the videos. But that’s just coaching also. Once he gets to his man he just needs to square up better instead of letting his man put a juke on him.
I hope that answered your questions.
On another note, I’ve been watching video of all the OT candidates. As I was watching TJ Fluker from Alabama, I wasn’t that impressed with his 82 pound feet stuck in quicksand but I couldn’t help but noticed the guy playing OG right next to him: #75 Barrett Jones. You want to talk about a stud OG? Lemme tell you something, that is a man among boys. Does anybody have news on him? Is he declaring this year?
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by J_r0kk on Jan 11, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
barrett jones
is indeed returning for his senior year
yeah, this (good job)
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nice job! and thank you ... just looked up Jones, he's returning for Senior year
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Okay... You're crazy!
I’ve always believed in getting a TRUE Left tackle and move Fat albert to guard where he belongs.
Angry Red, 'nuff said.
by chiefsfan62 on Jan 11, 2012 6:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You're not crazy.
Albert is an average LT….people put up some efficient study, but nobody knows what that means. He plays well sometimes, and bad sometimes. He has his games like he did against Indy….which B Rich also played well….then he has his games where he is a liability. Can he be our LT….sure…but if a better LT is there, should we move him to G….why not???? I think Pioli is going to get the best OL he can no matter who plays where. People get so defensive on this board about Albert (just like Dorsey last year…..wow has that changed)….all you are doing is giving your opinion on how to make the Chiefs better. The people that say Albert is an elite or very good LT are giving their opinion. My opinion is that he is average, and has hit his ceiling. He is done after 2012 and Pioli won’t pay him….so we better draft his replacement this year.
by AZDiamond75 on Jan 11, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If we stay in that spot
I think it will be one of those 3.
If it's between
Rieff and Martin, I would take Martin cuz he could move to the left side
I think we have to put Lilja back on the right.
maybe LG was his natural position, but he could have been playing out of position his whole career. Asomoah has certainly show enough for me to believe he could make the switch. In this situation we would only need to find a RT
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
We meed to sit Lilja the heck down.
Costan2a should be starting in his place.
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I agree
But cassel can certainly hurt the line . Fix the line and qb . Grab some depth , then we should be good .
by chiefsman! on Jan 11, 2012 6:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Who are you agreeing with?
Angry Red, 'nuff said.
by chiefsfan62 on Jan 11, 2012 6:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think it's more about asmoah
Getting him the starts . I don’t think waters would wanna sit under a young kid
by chiefsman! on Jan 11, 2012 6:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
But Asamoah plays RG
Waters was always a LG for us…
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 11, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
Ah yes you are right
Unless they thought about him being on the left. Who knows , apparently not muir because he lost waters AND gaither .
by chiefsman! on Jan 11, 2012 6:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
David DeCastro? please, Scotty, just this once!
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3 years to figure this out...
Hmmmmm. It should have been a priority day one. You draft skill positions first to sell tickets. You draft plow horses to win.
I'd argue that he has worked on it.
2 free agent pick ups two drafted linemen we have had holes at other spots two cant just spent whole drafts on linemen
by SportingIntellect on Jan 11, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
wanna bet? ;-)
cant just spent whole drafts on linemen
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First 2 picks on o-line wouldn't hurt my feelings..
Angry Red, 'nuff said.
by chiefsfan62 on Jan 11, 2012 7:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They should be
Only way Matt Cassel is going to be successful. Because Matt Cassel WILL be our QB.
Sigh…
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give me DeCastro and Adcock at 1 and 2
And I’ll shine Scott’s head at home games!
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Falcon, I'll buy you the head polish!
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but, but, but
that would mean we couldn’t draft a franchise QB in the first round to back up Orton…. </Cassel hater BS>
He has worked on it...
about like I’ve worked on getting in shape and eating better. I’ll probably get serious…if I live through my first "big one’
yeah, I'm sure once we win that AFC championship or Super Bowl
People will stop coming to watch. #mobilesarcasm
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by Falcon58 on Jan 11, 2012 8:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
pioli tried to lure olinemen.
Last year but none gave him a chance choosing to sign without even hearing a pitch from pioli. Kc needs to be more aggressive with our offers. Or atleast getting our offers heard atleast
by Dead Believer on Jan 11, 2012 6:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Lilja had a strong 2010 season right?
I thought he was playing better than this season anyways. Maybe if we stick him back at RG, swing Asamoah to LG and leave Hudson at center. Grab a FA RT and we’d be much more flexible in the draft. We’d also have an extremely young line. Pair that with our younger running backs and it’d be setting the team up for dominance on the ground for the next few years.
I think cassel also makes the line look worse than it actually is. His pocket presence isn’t the greatest and he tends to hold onto the ball for too long. Of course I’m beating a dead horse here but whatever.
by SoCalChief17 on Jan 11, 2012 6:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You'll grab it and you'll enjoy it
You filthy SOB
by SoCalChief17 on Jan 11, 2012 6:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'd far rather pick up a young stud in the draft for LG and have the interior of the OLine "set" for a decade
I agree RT is spot we need to upgrade, hopefully FA or the draft (if not on roster, which is doubtful) but in my mind LG is a priority (assuming Hudson steps in at C and Asamoah remains at RG)
to that I’d love adding a quality guy like Bush in FA … have ourselves a Red Zone power threat to go with moving the ball between the 20’s (and by that I mean Orton, not Cassel)
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Lilja will be fine, as long as he's not trying to make up for Wiegmann's shortcomings
Improvement from center play (Hudson?) will allow Lilja to focus on his own re-development at LG (aiming he played LG in Indy, I might be wrong on that)
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 11, 2012 6:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No, he was a LG in Indy, you're right.
If we go to a more power-based scheme though, he’s not going to be nearly as good a fit. Some of it depends on what system RAC’s offensive coordinator and line coaches employ…as we’ve seen, this administration is not afraid to impose a new system on existing parts (our 2009 4-3 defense playing a 3-4 scheme, for example).
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 11, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
If we can find a starter in the 3rd or 4th we can sit him for a year
And let him develop and toss him out like we did Asamoah. We need another mauler on the line. I have wet dreams over cassel having 3 minutes to throw the ball or having holes big enough for Charles to drive a semi through.
I really hope we bring McClain back and put some emphasis on blocking. Romeo knows how much fun it is to exploit a teams blocking tendencies, he should know that an offense needs a line first and foremost.
by SoCalChief17 on Jan 11, 2012 7:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think we can get away with BRich if needed if we find a non-immediate starter for RT in the draft
but that, to me, is yet another reason to grab DeCastro in the first: he’s ready to go, and along with Hudson completes the interior of the line and gives (someone at QB) plenty of time AND helps open holes on short yardage and in the Red Zone (man we’re bad at that, worst in the league is not a good thing)
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where is DeCastro expected to go in the draft?
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mid first round
right about where we pick
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Earth to ups, find whip and self flagelate for that blasphemy, BRich has got to go. I
understand you are trying to sway AP folks into thinking DeCastro is the solution, but it just ain’t so. Remember the hype on Dorsey, best since Reggie White. You are likely buying an agents campaign and pig in a poke. Can we use an upgrade at Lidja’s spot, sure we can, but it isn’t THE priority on the line. That is RT and C. There is a limitation in the scheme that is known as Zone Blocking and that is short yardage running plays up the gut. What is broken is both the playcalling and the execution. If the players don’t buy the play how they gonna execute? Not sure if you ever played football, or O-line for that matter, but when the guy across is bigger and stronger all you have is technique and execution off the snap.
I have some spaghetti ... will that work? :-)
ok, so you suggest we go off tackle on every power play in the red zone? really? FYI, DeCastro is the best pulling guard around … so yeah, he can help in a lot of places
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You miss the point, seldom try to overpower anybody, it is not the schemes strength.
Think of it this way. You had infantry like the Brit’s when we had our revolution that is comparable to a power line. They lined up in ranks and battered you with volleys of fire, then finished you with bayonets.Then you have infantry that was us, that is more ZBS. More mobile and the tactic of shoot and scoot, not being conventional, more mobility and shoot and scoot. Power versus mobility. There is no right or wrong, it’s just the fact that we use the ZBS and it is vital that you stay within it’s parameters. Yes, it’s about mismatches and misdirection, creating confusion that sets up defenders to get blocked..
ok, so what IS your point? I know you don't just overpower everyone ...
but remember too: BRich is a better run blocker than pass protector, that said, as Prof Mills or someone noted: if you get strong quick guys, they can play ZBS or Power … whereas pure power guys can only play that
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The point is you keep harping on short yardage and a short yardage defense.
ain’t going to get moved off the line by our smaller quicker guys. The best tackles have an ability to run block and pass block. In the NFL it is all about passing and if you can’t, then the other team plays 8 in the box, shuts your run game down and kills the QB when you try to pass. Yes we want strong quick guys, BRich ain’t quick, not even close. Besides that he made several bonehead plays last year, and not just penalties. Sometimes in pass pro, he just forgot his assignment and let the D by while he looked to the inside. He is absolutely the biggest liability on this team. PERIOD!!!!!!
fine, be that way ... just get DeCastro and you can have anyone else you want at RT
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A good guard CAN help cover deficiencies at tackle...but not all of them.
We need beef everywhere, I’m good with keeping Lilja and drafting a T as well as Konz or DeCastro.
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 11, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
well, DeCastro *IS* OG ... plug him in at LG ... BOOM! and yeah, I'm down with finding new RT
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Or plug Konz in, leave Hudson as our LG, and then slide Zebrie Sanders to RT.
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 11, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Do we like the idea of a smaller Center (Hudson) between Costanzo and Asamoah?
right now Costanzo is 6’5", 318 lbs. Add 15 more pounds of muscle from NFL training and that is a huge guard.
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well, that's why Hudson was projected at C in the NFL ... too small for OG
wait … Costanzo? no, no … that doesn’t rhyme with DeCastro
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Jackass Harry was on tv interviewing Pioli..........
Pioli said he wouldn’t trade up in the draft to get a QB………………………….
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Like Pioli is going to tell Jack Harry what his draft plans are.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
How about this
Pioli isn’t going to trade up in the draft to get a QB.
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I have a feeling we are stuck with you know who....................
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Yup :-(
And no matter how hard I try, I still to this day cannot tolerate White Cassel. Maybe if they carried more the characteristics of an actual burger, I’d be a bit more accepting. Oh, and didn’t taste like shit.
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 11, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
I thought he turned over a new leaf to be more open with the fans ...
gee, now I’m like all disappointed n stuff
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He also said he didn't feel good about drafting a safety at #5 overall
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 11, 2012 6:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Pioli must get his ego out of the way...
and get a top QB in the draft!!!!!
ANND MORE’S MEAN SERIOUS BIDNESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm shocked!
All the pipe dreams are getting tiring anyway.
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I don't think he has the moxy to trade what it would take to get RG3...
But……. if he did it would work for me.
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Why all the Asamoah to LG?
If we intend on building the OL, draft the best OL available in the 1st (probably DeCastro, and that’s exactly the right pick for us). DeCastro at LG, Hudson at C, and Asamoah at RG. In Free Agency go out and get a guy like Levi Brown or take a chance on Demetrius Bell for the RT spot. I like Brown here more.
RG3, its easy as ABC.
David Mims for RT
Albert/DeCastro/Hudson/Asamoah/Mims – Woah Nelly! HAHA
by Mitul V. Patel on Jan 11, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Mims ... project, be difficult to see him starting, but if he IS ready it's fine by me
the “knock” on him was that he didn’t have any kind of footwork … not a good thing for RT
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That's just silly.
The line should be as follows:
Mims RT, Mims, RG, Mims C, Mims LG, and JaMarcus Russell LT.
Line fixed for the next ten years easy. Next we move Albert to his natural postion of QB, Bowe gets moved to FB, McClain to WR and move McCluster over to the defensive side at NT. After those moves all our draft picks will be luxury picks for the next ten years at least.
by Zif on Jan 11, 2012 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
NOW we're talkin'!
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If we had a bunch of Mims on the field goal unit maybe oakland would'nt of blocked two kicks...
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If Mims was kicking
the ball would have went right through Seymour’s arm on the way to a made FG. He’d have to change his name to Seyless.
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If Mims improves his foot work, I would be up for that line up in a heart beat.
Koolta: A die hard chiefs fan
I just said that ... so glad to see you agree with me, as you should (of course)
DeCastro at LG, Hudson at C, and Asamoah at RG
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Demetrius Bell would be a horrible idea(the opposite of Richardson, good pass blocker, horrendous run blocker) and Brown isn't a ZBS guy.
I like the idea of DeCastro occupying the LG spot and I agree we should leave Big Jon where he is because change for a young player isn’t always good. I don’t know what the answer is at RT but I’m not a fan of either of those guys.
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by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
then FIND it! sheeeeesh, what do we pay you for, anyway?
I don’t know what the answer is at RT
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Ok how about this instead.
The Chargers are going to tag Jackson because they aren’t going to give him a long term deal which will leave Hardwick walking out the door. Move Hudson to LG, Hardwick to center and take Reiff in the first round to compete for LT and the loser goes to RT.
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by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
Or Chris Myers at Center?
Or sign Grubbs for LG, leave Hudson and take Reiff or Martin?
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by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
I like the Grubbs option best.
Reiff-Grubbs-Hudson-Big Jon-Albert would be a ridiculous line.
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by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Albert-DeCastro-Hudson-Asamoah-Zebrie Sanders would be more ridiculouser
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change grubbs for decastro via FA and keep everyone else only using a 2nd probably 3rd
for sanders and we are good.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Im not big on Sanders
He’s very BRichesque to me.
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by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
Im not big on spending a top 15 pick on a Gaurd? Or RT?
anyone that is asking to replace or upgrade albert at LT needs to re look at the chiefs team and come back with a different mind set, If you ask a offensive line coach what he would rather have a G at 11-12 overall or a 3rd and 4th round pick he would take the picks, they can coach these guys up so well and they know what they are looking for it doesnt have to be a high pick for these guys, it wont happen either count it. only way we draft a O-line player early round 1 is if its the guy from USC cause he is elite outside of him it wont happen gauranteed.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
DeCastro is elite and then some ... go ahead, ask any offensive line coach
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offensive line coaches look for certain qualities in lineman.
they can find those qualities in rounds 2-4 just as easy as top 15 then coach them up rather than waste that pick on a guy that early makes no sense. I can see trading the pick and picking him later in round 1 but not top 15.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
he's rated as the 15th pick on nearly every Big Board in the country
he’s THE top ranked OG by a long shot … he will NOT be available LATER in the first round
I’ve done the research … have you?
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then I dont think we need him at top 15, give me a guy in rounds 2-4 and coach them up.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Im perfectly fine with the way pioli has been building the O-line.
hudson round 2, the guy was a solid prospect and should be solid when given the chance, asamoah is a good pickup and should be solid for years to come as a 3rd round pick, if its not broke dont fix it keep drafting the lineman in rounds 2-3 unless you can get a steal.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
when was that list done?
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yup, he's up there ... projected late 1 or early 2
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I think we need an upgrade at LT
I went back and looked…yep still need to put him at LG….I think an OL coach would answer with…..give me the player that plays the best, I don’t care where we get him…..Are you serious? The OL coach would rather have a 3rd or 4th rounder??? So, did Emmitt Thomas get upset that about getting Berry at #5 and happy with Lewis in the 5th round? This team needs better players….that is why we lost 9 games, why we got blown out. Don’t give me the injury excuse…Packers won the SB with 15 players on IR….The Texans lost Foster and Johnson and they still won cuz they had enough good players. If you keep adding good players (no matter what round) you will be a better team.
thats a skill position not O-line, im just quoting what I heard today on sirius radio.
they was talking about that scenario and they said the NFL today is about that when it comes to O-line, the coaches would much rather have two guys in rounds 3 and 4 than a top 15 Gaurd. cause they just look for certain qualities and if they got them they coach them up to be just as good as that top 15 gaurd.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
Is this
the same guy who said you don’t take safetys in the top 5? If DeCastro is the best player available, and can help us….and we can’t trade out….we don’t take a player at another position just cuz he’s a G.
no way, I was sold on berry before anyone knew who berry was around here.
that was my guy the whole way.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt it
I’ve been a Tenn fan since 1980….so I saw him in a high school all star game.
ok you got me, but he has been my guy and my pick for a long time
I knew Safety was a huge need and he filled it to the rim.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Im not saying dont take the BPA im saying dont target a guy at that position there if you can get about the same in round 3 when coached up.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
You don't
know who will be there in round 3 or 4…I doubt Pioli thought Houston would be there in round 3.
you dont know anything about anyone except probably luck right now?lol
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
wouldnt you rather take a guy in FA and then draft a O lineman in round 2-4?
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
I like taking high skill players round 1 personally
you can coach up O-lineman easier than any other position when you think about it, the talent or skill cant be that much different worth going top 15 over say round 2-4.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
We'll see what happens the month
before the draft. If we can get a proven stud in FA, then yeah…we can wait until the middle rounds on an OL that we can coach up…..and I agree you can find good value on G/C in the middle rounds….but if we don’t sign a G….and he is the BPA…then yes take him.
he scares me, remember ryan simms how he was so good in college?
think he has the ryan simms effect going on? playing next to julius peppers. those stanford lineman scare me they use more lineman than other teams alot and they got multiple good lineman?
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
I like a guy who stands alone in talent,
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
Tamba
played on a great D an PSU…DJ did at Texas….Houston at GA….Berry at Tenn.
great D or great players next to them that effect them?
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
put a good player next to casey weigman and he is better right?
put a great safety next to berry or DJ and you cant tell cause they play more field and you dont effect them the way a O-lineman would,
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Put a good DL in
front of a LB and he is better….with any player you have to look at individual drills and coaching tape….I blame Bunning at UNC for selling Vermeil on simms…..they were great friends and he fucked him.
I didn't like Simms
But, you can say that about almost any good player…should none of the Bama D players get taken then since they all play with each other. When you watch him, he blows his guy off the OL….what about the Wisconsin OL….they do the same thing and they turn out alright.
not sure who yet, I love how pioli has been picking guys nobody really sees.
curious who he would pick, thomas jones, Lilja, the guy has been picking up some good FA’s lately.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know why Mike Adams is falling, other than a
character thing, but if we could get him like we did Houston, WOWEE. I think he and Konz are the 2 best ready to play linemen in the draft.
dunno what up with Konz, still the top C in the draft
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Normally I'm not high on taking a G in the first round.
But Decastro will be the best player available at 11 or 12. Hes a Hall of Fame type lineman that doesn’t come out very often. He has power, atheticism, nastyness, can fit in a zone or power scheme, there isn’t imperfections in his game. Hes the next Steve Hutchinson in his prime and I guarantee hes a Pro Bowler as a Rook! Not to mention we need some power to match up against bigger DTs that Oakland, SD, and the Ravens have. We can go out and get a Carl Nicks and spend 60 million or we can get an elite lineman like Decastro and have him play cheaply for the next 4 to 5 years. I think Rieff and Martin will be both be gone by the time we pick. Miami will go T because Vernon Carey is done. Carolina should go T because Otah cant stay healthy and Buffalo will damn sure go T because Bell has had a bazillion knee surgerys and is a FA. A line like Albert/Decastro/Hudson/Aso/Levi Brown would be one hell of a line. If Charles comes back heatlhy, he goes for 2000 yards!
I dont think he will be?
Does it bother you there are so many good O-lineman from stanford? notice how many lineman they use? does that effect how good a guy is if he has more help on the line than other teams? im not sold on him as a top 15 give me a guy with the qualities our coach looks for and coach him up using a 2-4 round pick instead.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
DUDE! he's the #! ranked player at his position by far and away
he’s actually ranked NINTH overall, even though most mocks have him going at 15 … and a finalist for the Outland Trophy (which goes to the best interior lineman) and he’s consensus All-America first team
and you question his talent and credentials? really?
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and as for how many linemen Stanford uses ...
Stanford runs behind a pulling DeCastro on three out of four run plays because his prowess as a blocker on the move is impressive
from a professional scout who knows a bit more than I do, and likely a bit more than you as well
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hey im just saying my opinion not saying he isnt good just not good enough to take a G top 15?
neither of us know everything we just give our opinions right? Im not to shabby though when it comes to seeing talent not saying im great but I called some good ones more than bad ones. ;) from my living room. lol
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
btw ... make that unanimous consensus all american
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You have a right to your opinion!
But hes so good, I wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t picked in the top 10. If your smart, your draft best player available as many of the great teams do! You cant argue any other player at 11 or 12 being Best Player Available. Everybody else has flaws in thier game. Decastro is most complete player who we have a shot at in that range. He is the safest pick on the board who is a dominate sum bitch!
Love Sanders
though I don’t think he comes to us in the 2nd round…he might go late first.
Sounds decent........But would you really want to start two rookies on the line?
Koolta: A die hard chiefs fan
only if one of them is DeCastro :-)
the mocks have us taking Martin (OT)
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Agreed.. normally you don't take a guard that high but....that DeCastro has pro bowl written all over him..
I would take Martin in the 2nd if he was availible….Pioli did say HE really needs to do something about the line……
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nah, Hudson too small for LG
not sold on Reiff for that matter, certainly not at LT and Albert’s just fine there anyway … I’d love DeCastro at LG and then take RT guy in Rd 2 or 3
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That's why I said best man win.
Honestly I think Albert would be a stud on the right side. Thats the only spot I wouldn’t mind seeing him moved to if we had a better option at LT.
Martin or Reiff-Grubbs-Hudson-Asamoah-Albert > Albert-DeCastro-Hudson-Asamoah-3rd round RT if you ask me.
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by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
Can trade Reiff for Martin
I’m ok with either. Martin is a bit more physical I think.
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by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
What?
Martin is more physical than Reiff? you crazy man!
Heck... Decastro is 40 lbs heavier than Lilja, and Hudson only 12 pounds.
We need more beef on this line if we are going to improve…
Go Chiefs!!!!
He's not fat, he's big-boned.
/no homo
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only just now starting? ;-)
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No kidding.
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screw you guys
I’m a goin home…
by Chiefs fan in ST Louis on Jan 11, 2012 8:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Anyone looked at
Cordy Glenn? I havent checked him out I just saw he’s rated right above DeCastro on Kipers Board not that he knows anything though
show me a guy we can get in rounds 2-4 and thats where im looking.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
WELL glad you asked
In the 2nd at right tackle we could do Zebrie Sanders from FSU, Brandon Washington from Miami at Guard
In the 3rd at guard we could do Kevin Zeitler from Wisconsin, Kelechi Osemele from ISU at guard
In the 4th at right tackle we could do Levy Adcock from Oklahoma State, Senio Kelemete from Washington at Guard
Random Thoughts
I really like Sanders, Osemele is probably my top guy, and I like Zeitler.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
tomachop ... wow, good question
I suppose my answer would depend on a couple of things: do we re-sign Carr and Bowe?
I wouldn’t be upset if we got Reiff or Martin (both likely gone by our pick, especially Martin)
Dre Kirkpatrick at CB would be a nice one, even if we did get Carr signed … or Alphonzo Dennard also CB
not sold on Coples or Still and we’re ok at OLB … I’ll go with Kirkpatrick or Dennard (for now)
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I could even justify Dwayne Allen if DeCastro is gone
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I dont know what to think of Dennard
Shut Jeffery done with excellent press coverage but he ended up fightin him i dont want another cortland finnegan if that makes sense
Oh and Im not sold on kirkpatricks tackling
Reiff looks pretty good here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWfhLJXbMnk
And Mr. Stanzi doesn’t look too bad himself. Some of those dropped passes I have to think are completions to the guys on our roster.
Stanzi. Play the man.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
by jmcgoblue on Jan 11, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
if DeCastro is gone and Reiff was there ... I'd have no problem with that pick
in fact, that would likely be my preference with DeCastro gone (I’d cry but Reiff would work) :-)
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Scott Wells is another guy who might fall through the cracks.
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by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
Dunno mang
we have a need and more cowbell ain’t gonna fill it. I’m up for just about anything over B-Rich and MIMS right now.
RG3, its easy as ABC.
That's what I'm sayin'!
No need to switch-a-roo the whole line. Draft the crap outta DeCastro and fins a RT in FA. I don’t care who he is just as long as he’s an upgrade over our current F-Richardson. Yes, that is an F-. That’s hard to come by. Which really says a lot about how good our RT situation is.
RG3, its easy as ABC.
and that is not a "fins", its supposed to be a "FIND"
pay no attention to the faceless keyboarder with zero proper english skills…..
RG3, its easy as ABC.
This sounds like 2010 when Pioli kept saying he wouldn't draft a safety in the first round...
then went out and drafted Eric Berry. Pioli’s not the type of guy to say straight up what they’re looking for. A sign we’re gonna move up for RG3?
Remember Herm?
Funny shit, worth checking out: http://www.chiefscoastbias.com/
Good luck with that.
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I don't think Pioli ever said that.
Dimitroff from Atlanta who is a friend of Pioli’s made the comment that, Taking a safety at 5 is not Pioli’s way.
I want DeCastro and Kareem McKenzie.
DeCastro to right guard, Asamoah to left guard, Hudson to center, then keep Albert at LT and move McKenzie to RT as a respectable, starter-quality veteran to sign for a guy to upgrade RT while we either draft a replacement or wait (my hope) fo David Mims to develop. Don’t need to spend big money on guys like Nicks and Grubbs who have never played in a zone-blocking scheme.
by NigerianNightmare on Jan 11, 2012 6:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
why move Asamoah? especially why move him with a rookie C and possibly new RT? keeping him at RG would be one bit of continuity for HIM and make it that much easier (one would think)
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Just give me O-line beef and a side of QB
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Carl Nicks
We’ve got the money, and New Orleans probably doesn’t. He fits a glaring need, allows us to keep Asamoah at RG, Hudson at C, and keeps Lilja on board as our reserve interior lineman.
Nicks has the size and strength to make a huge difference on those 3rd/4th and short situations. He also has the athleticism and quickness to get outside for pulling situations. The only question I would have would be whether or not he can continuously be a pulling guard throughout the game.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
That's a big question when you're going to pay the guy 9-10MS/year.
I hate to say it but Im liking the idea of DeCastro more and more everyday.
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by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think it's that big of a question.
Especially when you consider that our offensive philosophy is likely to change some. He gives us the power we need (a top rushing team that can’t pick up 1 damn yard?). He does have the athleticism to get outside, it just isn’t known if he can do it consistently throughout the game. That doesn’t mean he can’t, it just means it’s unknown.
Everyone always wants the Chiefs to spend money…well, here it is. This is the chance. A big time player who fills a position of need.
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by citadelchief on Jan 11, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
remember also we have Carr and Bowe to spend on ...
and maybe a Michael Bush or who knows who else in free agency
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I know who else...
Carl Nicks.
We HAVE to upgrade at both LG and RT. The best way to do this is FA/1st rd pick combination. With the given Free Agency situation, we have a better chance at getting that LG in Free Agency and RT in the draft.
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by citadelchief on Jan 11, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
If chiefs spend money on lg and rt are they gonna leave cassel at qb?
I liked it when i heard he said he made a mistake but i thought it was about cassel. If he tries fixing ol first I’m fine with that but when is he going to fix the qb position? I hope that’s on his long list as well. I’d be psyched if we had a great line and a real qb.
Lt Albert
Lg Nicks
C Hudson
Rg Asamoah
Rt Martin Reiff or Fa
Honestly i see them going ol in fa unless someone great falls to us like DeCastro. All this trading up stuff for qbs makes me wonder why nobody has mentioned trading up for kalil who is the best tackle to come out since Long and Thomas.
Rt
by Kcbiggyblue on Jan 11, 2012 7:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
another question is: why would he want to leave a perennial powerhouse like the Saints?
I’d be shocked if the Saints let him walk … stunned, actually
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Money.
They spent a fortune on that o-line last season and will have to break the bank paying for Drew Brees this year.
On top of that, they still have Marques Colston, Robert Meachem, and Tracy Porter on the board to take care of.
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by citadelchief on Jan 11, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
These days you need a "LT" on both sides of your Offensive Line
There is no such thing as a “RE” pass rusher anymore either. Defenses move their best players around to get the best matchups they can get to get after the Quarterback. Just like Tamba has the ability to move wherever he wants on any given play. You CANNOT have too many great OT’s on your team. We need another great one, not just another “RT” we have one already. In fact by historical standards of “LT” and “RT,” Richardson is a pretty good “RT” as they were traditionally asked to be road graters in the run game. But that time is over, in today’s NFL, you need great offensive takles on both sides…
Hellen Keller could see the offensive line needs help..
And drafting a player the could start right away at LG like DeCastro, and who can also play 2 other postion on the line would be a good start. Even Chris Terry is saying " Damn, the chiefs have’nt found a good starting right tackle yet"? And what OC in the league would not be smiling if he knew Shabby or Langsford was going to start against them at safety? There will be plenty of good players availible in free agency that will want to play in KC for the right price. I say don’t be going for bargin basement players all the time , and don’t be afraid to sign a so called " BIG NAME PLAYER" if he can help the chiefs win games..PS most of the time when you pick up a player that was cut by another team, that player was cut for a reason?
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rec'd for proper use of Helen Keller reference
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It more obvious news, this just in....
Hue Jackson wishes he could take back his final press conference
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
As my cousin Vinny would say...
Well that’s a big fukn surprise.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
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Free Hudson!
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by Tarkus on Jan 11, 2012 7:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
At least he had the balls to go after Carson Palmer and Seymour.....KC signs a LT and then cuts him 5 weeks later...
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Pioli went after Palmer and Seymour?
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
I think he means Hue
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Pioli went after Hue?
Is he going to be our new OC?
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I hope not
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You mean the guy
who helped KC do to Denver what Polamalu and the Steelers couldn’t do?
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Ike Taylor is trending for all the wrong reasons.
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I did indeed mean Hue..If we know we need them (KC), then do what it takes to get em..
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Let me ask you guys..
In our offensive line scheme(s), doesn’t the left guard pull and trap more than the right guard?
Angry Red, 'nuff said.
by chiefsfan62 on Jan 11, 2012 7:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The left guard typically pulls more often than the right...
I guess that could change though… especially since the LG position could be up in the air.
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by KeyboardGato on Jan 11, 2012 7:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I doubt if she needs it while writing her diary, though.
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Naturally we need to build the line but I'll never understand how as a GM he is so sold
on Cassel. We as Chief fans might not be NFL quality coaches or material evaluators but after so many of us have watched this teams for years and years, we can still tell when someone just is not getting the job done and Cassel just is not. Why would Pioli be so stubborn and closed minded as to not even consider that we need someone else. I personally just don’t get it. And to clarify, I was supportive of Cassel for the first two years but after the Oakland game last year and the playoff game against Baltimore, it became obvious to me that he just could not handle the heavy, pressure situations. So, Pioli will get him a much better OL, they’ll be playing a last place schedule and the Chief’s will win 9 or 10 games and that will lock Cassel in for another few years. What BS.
did he explicitly say "Matt Cassel is going to be the starting and only QB in 2012"
because if he didn’t then I don’t think you can read too much into the QB situation just yet
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I agree but if he said that he would never trade up for a QB, I believe that very closed
minded and it just seemed that Crennel was playing the Pioli line when he indicated that Cassel was still the man.
Pretty sure Pioli knows more about the situation than us
I’m not a Cassel fan anymore, but come on. Different OC every year, terrible offensive weapons for a good portion of his time here, revolving door for a poor OL, and a fucking mess at the playcaller position. I’m in no way saying the dude is our guy cuz I’m all about starting Orton, but Pioli I’m sure isn’t being close-minded or “egoli”. He’s just seen the situation and probably thought the dudes been getting somewhat of a raw deal. We need him at the very least for depth in case Orton goes down.
Pioli is in the Peterson GM trap
these guys think that if they ever make a mistake they will never be forgiven. I forgive you Pioli!!! I do! I do! Now stop making exuses for the lack of talent at the qbpos. and show us why you were hired in the first place
Im hearing Tyson Jackson is turning out to be a good pick now?
Is this true?
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
pretty much, he's developing nicely and doing what's been asked of him ... which has enabled Houston to become a pretty good SOLB in his rookie season
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I agree, but I do think Dorsey is having a hard time in our 3/4 system.....I do think Bailey needs more playing time, he came on strong towards the end...
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dorsey was the top run stopper on PFF right? or 2nd?
but sucked at getting pressure? can we move him to NT? we hear the albert moves why not bring this move up again? then play tyson and bailey on the ends.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 11, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
He's too small to be NT.
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lol there is absolutely nothing he can say now that would not hurt the value of the players he does have and raise the value of the ones he could possibly get
First they have to hire a OC and then they have 5/6 weeks to decide how they want to proceed .
Which holes to fill through the draft and which holes to fill through FA .
Until free agency starts around the beginning of March there is nothing he can or should say about players on the roster he doesnt want . He should be grinning and talking them up just like hes doing .
When winter meetings start around the combine in a few weeks well then he can start unofficially listen and talk with other gms and see who is open to trading for Matt as he will likely get a lot of chatter about how Orton behaved in his time here as well.
Right now all he should be doing is listening, evaluating potential Chiefs,talking up our players and playing out different scenarios in private .
by Willie Beamon on Jan 11, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
this, pretty much
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Again, agree to a degree, but we do have a history and he really hasn't been very
agressive in FA in the past. The last two drafts look pretty good but still sure could have been a lot better. This is going into the fourth year and I sure expected more by now.
by jcox31mc on Jan 11, 2012 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Thats why I personally will be on the trade up for rg3 bandwagon all the way till draft time.
Me guessing pioli won’t do this, I want DeCastro in the 1st and chris polk in the 2nd. With a top 5 defense,a #1 rushing attack,and a pussy qb who won’t risk turnovers, one would think we could make some noise next year.. Drafting a rt to block for our bum qb is a waste of a high pick in my eyes,while DeCastro is to the guard position as E.Berry was to the safteys. Elite prospect.
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by chief913-816 on Jan 11, 2012 8:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
SAWWWWEEEETT
Beef up those lines boys. I don’t care if that’s all we draft(figuring we lock up Bowe and add upgrades threw FA)
TRich Position change
Try him out at guard. He is a good run blocker and he doesn’t need to get off the ball as quick. A worst he could be the utility back up
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in cheek
by KeyboardGato on Jan 11, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
well played, Sir!
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don't be an ass
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You know, if Pioli is all that great, just think about the income and fan enthusiasm that
someone like RGII would bring in. The stands would absolutely be over flowing. The guy is very likely going to be a great QB, he’s 6’2", 220 lbs and has the speed of Charles. If there is any possibility of trading up for him, wouldn’t it be worth the risk? I’m actually tired of seeing all of the empty seats at Arrowhead.
not if it costs too much, especially if it cost a lot and he doesn't pan out ... then we end up worse than what we are now
wouldn’t it be worth the risk?
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Ups, to me it would be worth the risk. If I had the dollars, I'd bet you big time, that the team
that gets RGIII moves up big time in overall rankings within 2-3 years. He’s probably not any more risk that Luck. Detroit has benefited greatly with Stafford just as an example and there are many other examples. I keep pointing out Brees because of his injury, but it’s my opinion, shared by many on this site, that someone like RGIII is going to be a franchise QB and that is what KC needs, if they are ever going to win a SB.
speaking of injuries..
wasn’t Brees damaged goods a few years back? How about Manning? Not that we need a qb or anything
Who needs a QB when you have a Tyler Palko on your team......That boys a STUD!!!!
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if you think Detroit has been built with just Stafford then you need to think again
look, I’m sure RG3 is very good, but the cost to get him is (and should be!) a concern … that AND the fact that we STILL have holes to fix, holes that truly need to be fixed with the best we can get, the best guys in the draft (which is how you build a team)
if we had a solid OLine … I’d be right there with ya on RG3, ok? I would … really I would
if we get it done now, done right … and want to move way up for Barkley next year, I’m down with it … IF we get the OLine and the other issues done first
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'bout frigging time
Maybe now he’ll draft a legit RT since there aren’t really any coming that are worth it in free agency.
Speaking of free agency, I just noticed Drew Brees is a free agent. Some other ones that might be worth taking a look at for us… Carl Nicks OG, Cortland Finnegan CB if we lose Carr or even if we don’t, Wes Welker, Ben Grubbs OG, Marques Colston WR, Stephen Tulloch LB, Brent Grimes CB, Broderick Bunkley DT, Marshawn Lynch, Dqwell Jackson LB, Vincent Jackson, Stevey Johnson, DeSean Jackson, Paul Soliai DT, Chris Meyers OC, David Hawthorne LB, Matt Flynn, Anthony Spencer LB, Laron Landry S, Bradon Lloyd, Michael Griffin S, Scott Wells C, and Laurent Robinson WR.
Free agency looks kinda deep at DT and real deep at WR. I’d say franchise Bowe and trade him and pick up Colston who’s just as good as Bowe and probably more consistent. I also love Laurent Robinson and what he did for the Cowboys this year… he’d be a great pickup and team player. I’d also look at some of those centers to keep Hudson at OG if Lilja is falling apart and try at least one of those 3-4 DTs to give Powe more developmental time if he needs it. Wow, the WR options in free agency are excellent. Wow, it’s a good time to replace Bowe if we have to.
What are your thoughts on Matty Flynn? Cassel had some games like Flynn did while he was in NE.
Clark Hunt has given Scott Pioli an open checkbook...
…with NO check writing pen! :)
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by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 11, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I love Nicks but hes gonna cost 60 million!
Thats why i want to go with Decastro! Pioli will not spend that kind of money, Grubbs is going to get a shitload as well. Resigning Bowe and Carr is going to take a chunk but needs to be done. I would like to bring in Paul Soliai. As for the draft get Decastro or Burfict! Martin and Reiff will be gone, I guarantee it!
by BigRatt on Jan 11, 2012 8:13 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
you don't want Burfict
trust me
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So was Ray Lewis! I think he turned out ok in his NFL Career.
He can be coached and Crennel would do one hell of a job with him. Not many ILbs who have rushing ability like OLBs. Hes a thumper who hits with a ton of bricks. Hes one of the best cover ILBs in the draft. Yes he does have some flaws, but hes the closest thing to Patrick Willis that i have seen!
brilliant
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Whats your reasoning?
Burfict and Decastro are the only 2 players I can see fitting our needs but being top values. Thats assuming Martin and Reiff are gone. You watch the first minute of this clip and tell hes not a player. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvcsffTQojI
well
first play he was unblocked
second and third when ppl see that theyre just gonna call a long count
HE’s good but hes also super penalized so i cant see spending a first
Penalties are the only reason you can come up with for not going in the 1st round?
Penalties is a mental thing that can be coached, you cant coach the type of ability that Burfict has! The point of the 1st play shows his speed, he has just as much pass rush ability as most OLBs at ILB. Not only that, but hes one hell of a thumper in the run game. He will be highly sought after in the 1st round. I say theres a chance KC takes him. Phily, Pittsburg, and the Ravens will no doubt be interested in the 1st round as well. Newsome has already said he will take Ray Lewis’s replacement this year. Kuechly doesn’t have the size for the 3-4. HighTower doesn’t have any wheres close to the ability Burfict has in the speed and athleticism department.
Carl Nicks AND Scott Well PLEASE and...
since this is all a fairy tale… I want Scott Pioli to go “Herschel Walker” CRAZY and GET RGIII! Yep…our ENTIRE DRAFT! We have our “Core Players!” Time to fill in the cracks! Get our Franchise QB and hit Free Agency HARD! Oh, AND; lets raid Superbowl teams from the last 2-3 years for PROVEN Players in Free Agency PLEASE! NO MORE PROJECTS & MAYBES! Thanks! Can someone forward MY PLAN to Mr. Pioli? Thanks…Again!!!
This will get me banned I have a feeling! :-))
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by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 11, 2012 8:29 PM CST reply actions
Why would that get you banned?
You’re just repeating what half of AP has been saying (once it became obvious we weren’t sucking for Luck).
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Yep!
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by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 11, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Wont be long til you also hear on sports center
that he re-signed with the Pats
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
I want that to happen to!
But Pioli said in an interview this week that he couldn’t see himself giving up the picks to make it happen.
I want that to happen to!
But Pioli said in an interview this week that he couldn’t see himself giving up the picks to make it happen. Its hard to trust anything a GM says before a draft, but i think hes telling the truth. Hes not an overly aggressive GM, and like Bellicheck, hes loves his picks. I think if anything, he might trade down like last year and try to acquire more picks.
or hallucinate :-)
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I've been a Chief's fan since they came to KC and if they don't hurry up, I'll never see
them in a SB. Keep in mind, most of our best players were here B4 Pioli came aboard. Just think about that. He’s improved the team to a degree, but the best core players were already here.
by jcox31mc on Jan 11, 2012 8:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Berry was here? Asamoah and Moeaki were here? Hudson and Houston were here?
dude, I’m all about Bowe and Flowers and Carr and DJ and Charles, ok? and I am NOT a Pioli fan in any way, shape or form … and, as you know, I do NOT like Cassel AND I’m still pissed about the Waters thing
but
we’re coming off a crappy year … now, you want to rag at Pioli, jump on him for treating the 2009 season as an evaluation training camp … you do that I’m with you all the way
but he’s had a couple of decent (good) drafts now, and it DOES take time for guys to develop and grow … we’re getting there, it takes time
what he needs to do now is what he’s just said he’ll do: work on the OLine … let’s see what happens and what he does before we start on him with sledgehammers and icepicks, ok?
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I'm with you until we find out, if we ever do, that he is demanding that Cassel be the QB.
I’m extremely concerned that that is what is going on and if Haley ever let’s it out, Pioli is really going to look bad.
if he DEMANDS that Cassel is our starter ...
well, you’ve heard of the Unabomber, right? (angelic smile)
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He said most of our BEST players
with the exception of Berry (obvious hes a stud, not to mention he was drafted 5th overall), Asamoah(one year) Moeaki(one year and was hurt) Hudson, Houston?? Though all these guys look like they might have solid futures, in no way can you consider any of them, except Berry and maybe an argument for Moeaki, our BEST players.
But besides that, I agree that Pioli is making moves that will set us up to be a very good football team
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
So you're saying
guys who have been developing for four or five years are ahead of guys who have been developing for one or two years?
I hope so.
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Not always
Berry is better then a lot of safeties that have been developed. I was more speaking on Jcox saying most of our best players came before Pioli, in which Ups named guys who I dont feel should be considered our best players, YET
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
I've been a chiefs fan since Broadway Joe bought his first pair of pantyhose...
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since before that ... kid :-)
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awesome!
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Wow
so you guys are those ancient chiefs fans I always here about. What an honor : )
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Season tickets must be a bitch to squeeze in
on fixed income
by KeyboardGato on Jan 11, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
I walked in the snow barefoot up hill to watch a chiefs game...... back in my day.
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both ways?
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Anyone else besides me
think Romeo will ditch the ZBS and beef up the players on both lines, unlike the in-shape, cross country runners that Haley liked?
Bigger cross country dudes
Like DeCastro
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 11, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve! :-)
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I love how he talks about the safety position like injuries are a shock in this game
the thing he should say is we fucked up and didnt have any Real depth behind our starting safeties. Therefor, we were never really set at that position.
injuries in football? no!
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so, one mock has us taking Martin ... with DeCastro going to Dallas 2 picks later
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LT- Albert, LG- Asamoah, C- Hudson, RG- Richardson, RT- Martin
Albert had a great year at LT. No point in moving him around when at this point he is clearly a high caliber LT. Asamoah could slide over to LG without too much trouble. Rodney Hudson slides in for Weigman at C. Barry Richardson is solid in the run game at times and mostly struggles with speed rushers in pass protection. There was talk of Richardson playing guard a few years ago, and I think it would help his career out quite a bit. A move to RG would seem to be a good idea. RT obviously is the position that needs the most improvement, and Johnathan Martin from Stanford would be a great fit.
Packers just put a 1st Round tender on Matt Flynn
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So what do ya think?
We paid a second for Cassel and Vrabel. Would you like this move if the chiefs did it
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
what, drop a 1st on Flynn?
nah … not this year’s first
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I might
Didnt think much of flynn til I seen how crisp his throws were his last game
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe not a first
but a second and a player
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Cassel looked pretty good ...
… in 2008
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thats the worry
Kolb did to, as well as mitchell, as well a ton more….Someones gotta hit one of these days right?
I still think getting Cassel and Vrabel for second rounder wasnt a bad move then and now. You take a shot at a relatively low price
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
was a good deal at the time
And was probably the best QB available at the time.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
I think Only if your convienced we must get a first round QB
Flynn has about as much boom bust risk as a 12 pick.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
This is crazy
People seriously need to stop whining about Pioli complimenting our starting quarterback. The cold hard truth is that Cassel is the best quarterback we currently have on the roster, so why shouldn’t he be supported by the front office at this time? Obviously it would be nice to get better at the position, but trading up to get RGIII is incredibly cost inefficient and won’t happen.
by manhattan_chief on Jan 11, 2012 10:02 PM CST reply actions
correct ... unless Stanzi is better ... regardless, we should get another QB
Cassel is the best quarterback we currently have on the roster
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Cold hard truth?
Who is better between Orton and Cassel is an opinion at this point.
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Orton isn't under contract
I think Orton is a slight upgrade over Cassel, but it’s hard to tell if we’re gonna be able to re-sign him. I think Pioli and Romeo probably want to, but it depends on whether or not Orton wants to stay and compete for the starting spot.
by manhattan_chief on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
compete?
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IOW, show up.
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right!
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 11, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
he'd be a good REPLACEMENT
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 11, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
If I had to pick
I am for re-signing Orton and letting Stanzi back him up….Try and move Cassel if we get a decent price….Orton is still considered on our roster right? I mean season isnt Technically over
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, he's a Chief until at least March.
So we can still negotiate with him exclusively.
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really? SWEEEEEEEEEEET!
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Why would he not be competing?
There’s been no indication that we have plans to trade or dump Cassel. So yes, it would be a competition
by manhattan_chief on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 PM CST reply actions
I think they'd have to dump
Cassel to commit to Orton to get him to stay. It’s worth it if our other options fail, such as… The better option is trade up to get Luck or get Manning in some kind of deal. We’ve got picks, Dorsey and a third-string QB (Cassel) as bait. I think RGIII will take quite a while to develop in an NFL offense if at all. I need to read up on the QBs’ scouting reports but I don’t know of any really good QBs coming out except for Luck.
Dorsey who's not a good rusher and Cassel who's average on a GOOD day ... and that's your "bait"
and just what picks do we trade for Luck … 1 through 7?
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I just really don't see us trading up for RGIII
There are other teams in the draft that are more desperate for a quarterback and willing to give up a lot more. Specifically the redskins..
by manhattan_chief on Jan 11, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
I think it is going to cost us an arm and a leg to get RG/Luck/Manning
and if so, I would rather use picks other places
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
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awesome
just gotta find a bank to cash it now
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
take it to any body shop ...
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yeah, that was sarcasm
on Cassel and a pipe dream on Luck but I think the Manning sweepstakes are a strong possibility but we’d be bidding with teams such as the Jets, which may be a good thing because we have a great cap advantage but they’ve already hired manning’s former OC.
I think Dorsey
does have pretty good value. He’s a good run-stuffer and he’s been playing out of position.
We got him what, 5th overall?
I am thinking he wouldnt attract more then a third rounder.. Pretty good value as in how?
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
I'd def take a third for Dorsey
and we could probably trick another team that was high on him coming out of college for a mid- to low- second.
I get it ... more sarcasm, right?
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Ok
but wheres the value?Basically we spent a top five overall pick to get a third rounder 5 years later? Not value. We got the shit end of the stick
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
Obviously
we got screwed on the tradeoff but in terms of tradeable assets that I’d be willing to part with, he’d be the one. Based on where, he was drafted, he’s been a bust for us but he’s also serviceable. Run-stopping on the DL is very important in a 3-4. Bowe also could be a part of any trades if we franchise/sign him. I’d be willing to let him go if we get a decent replacement with the bevy of WR FAs out there this offseason.
Not sure why people want Bowe gone
He is getting better every year… Soon as we start building a team, people want to remove blocks and start going different ways.
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
I think a lot of people think Bowe himself wants out
… bet he’d be delighted to stay if he was sure Orton was coming back
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Bowe wants out?
first Ive heard of this.. Has something been said that makes people believe this?
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
He said he’s happy in Kansas City and isn’t thinking about playing elsewhere.
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So that translates into him wanting out?
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
no, but it's been suggested that since he hasn't yet agreed to terms that he MUST be unhappy here
and besides, he drops balls out of sheer discontent
makes sense, right? :-)
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Tamba Hali.
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I am sure Bowes contract is bigger then the other players re-signed
takes lil more time
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
my guess is he signs, I do hope so
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me too
Well signing off… you guys have a good night
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
Ask Ups.
He didn’t say exactly that, but he gave that impression. I forget the exact quote.
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If Manning
asks for a trade or release, there’s no reason the Chiefs shouldn’t be major players for him. If they aren’t then I think that shows they aren’t really all that interested in winning.
Maybe they are interested in winning well into the future
not just now… People seem to forget that draft picks turn into future superstars… Manning is on his way out, maybe not even going to make his way back in.
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
everything would be contingent on him passing a physical so that’s a crapshoot at this point. I just remember the last time we really went after a quality QB at the end of his career was the only time we advanced far in the playoffs (Montana, oh, what a year that was! Wish he’d stuck around for one more year, that year our defense was just sick but not sick enough to overcome Bono and the kicker who shall not be named).
Got a point there...
I understand the importance of the QB position, but I also am one of those guys that think Orton can get us there with the right pieces.. Another solid draft or two, I see us being very good for years
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
Hali isn't getting any younger!
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/5/4/860098/revisiting-the-kansas-city-chiefs
It’s Ok! We can wait another 42 Years!!!
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by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 11, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
42 years ?
Wow..way to reword my thoughts in the most extreme way…
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Who did we draft last year that actually made an impact? Houston, Baldwin and who else?
For that we we could package our picks for RGIII and pick up a couple of linemen in FA.
What's so great about RGIII?
I need to read his scouting report but he may be a one-year wonder, much like other QBs we’ve been saddled with.
he's good, very good indeed
just costly
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You don't know that RG3 will make an impact his first year either.
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Most players dont make an impact their first year
Look at Carr? Charles? DJ, Hali????…….Berry is an exception.. Next year isnt the last year of football
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
it was a 5 Year Plan
Pioli is secretly a Communist
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by upamtn on Jan 11, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't give out my number
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You obviously haven't looked at the Mayan calendar.
Next year isnt the last year of football.
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oh snap!
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Haa..nice 1
Im the guy who thinks the mayans just said “fuck it, 12/12 is good enough, someone else can continue from here”
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
I was counting on obamas plan too
shit doesnt go as planned sometimes my friend
by TheScreenName on Jan 11, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
Cassel's team was in the playoffs last year.
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Just responding to you saying
RG3’s team would be in the playoffs in a year or two.
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So you're saying he'll match Cassel within a couple years.
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the Redskins? really? if they get RG3 it would be the most colossal waste of QB talent in the history of football
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i've been hearing they are going to be willing to give up 4 draft picks for him..
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
and more power to 'em
wonder how many of those are 1st rounders
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more then one would be a collosal mistake
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
which means they'll give two
Snyder’s an idiot … wait, I don’t want to insult Texas Chief like that
Snyder’s a cretin
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I would do maybe a 1st and a 3rd for the guy
but I don’t think that will come close to buying the trade.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
RGIII
1st, 2nd and a provisional pick next year!
Give them Barry "Rich"ardson to make it an AWESOME Deal!
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by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
naw
Those high rounds picks are all important..
I wouldn’t mind our 1st, and picks 5, 6, 7.. something like that.. something that allows us to pickup a good OT and Maybe a fresh TE or FS depth.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Ups, why do you say that. I hope your right but I would have to think that Shanahan
would know how to get him going.
I say that because the Redskins are more dysfunctional than the Raiders
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Heretofore known as the Ratskins.
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Overrated.
He hasn’t done squat without John Elway.
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just listened to an interview with TD
on the radio here in Cleveland. Great guy to listen to for football insights. As much asI hated the Broncos, I always respected TD. It’s too bad how his career ended.
Heard that interview too..
was one of the better ones I’ve heard lately
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
where u at?
I’m in Cleveland Heights. Are you a Missouri-Kansas transplant?
Me
I’m out east near madision.. yes, born in raised around KC.. Gower to be exact.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'm actually from
MY State originally, Syracuse, but I grew up for the most east side of Cleveland. Was a Browns fan then moved with Schottenheimer, then tried to leave Chiefs this season but couldn’t pull it off. Another year of Matt Cassel, though, could push me over the edge.
Of course, I’d take the Chiefs franchise over this crap in Cleveland any day. The real Browns are in Baltimore and what a tragedy for this city that as soon as they moved, they won a SuperBowl after a few years.
Yes I feel bad for the browns fans
Also in the toughest division in the League right now.
I won’t bail even if they play Matt, just be more disappointted in Pioli
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
My feeling
If Pioli is talking O line, we not going with O line in the first round.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 10:48 PM CST reply actions
I was just thinking
I’ve been a Chiefs fan since the 1980’s when Schottenheimer came here and we’ve only had two good QBs in that time – Montana (and his second year he even had some bad games like against Miami in the playoffs) and Trent Green for about two years before he went into the tank. DeBerg had one good year and then stunk. Don’t even get me started on Dave Krieg of the 16-0 shutout against the Chargers in the playoffs. Cassel garbage, Vlasic oh my god, Blundin argh!, Brokie Croyle pathetic, Tyler Thigpen who was actually fun to watch and kept us competitive when our defense was beyond horrible. Wait, Tyler Thigpen was our best QB after Montana and Green. Holy fucking shit… no wonder why we go ape=shit when we see occasional glimpses of solid QB play from people such as Orton.?!?
Orton=.500 Winning Percentage!
It’s all good! Maybe we can get our own QB Next Year or Next Year or Next Year….
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by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
yes yes yes..
cut lijia and get a RT. Anyone with knowlege of the game could see that Liljia sucks same for the smuck at RT. Even Casey has been sub par. Basicly.. a RG and RT .. hoping that Hudson will fill in at C and we should be ok. Well as far as the O-line goes.,
going a different way?
If we think we could use depth at safety as well as in the trenches, I haven’t seen anyone talk about taking Mark Barron in the first round then building the O-line in rounds two and three. Just throwing that out there. Sanders, Datko both from Fla St at tackle will be around Zeitler and Osemele at guard will be around or even Ben Jones C from Georgia. *disclosure I have not seen Zeitler, Osemele or Jones play. I live in ACC country
by TheValleybetterthanPAC12 on Jan 12, 2012 6:21 AM CST reply actions
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