Chiefs Could Look To Miami For An Offensive Coordinator
by Joel Thorman on Jan 11, 2012 12:05 PM CST
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PrintThe Miami Dolphins fired their head coach Tony Sparano (who just got picked up by the New York Jets) at the end of the 2011 NFL season which means there could be some turnover on their coaching staff.
And methinks we should keep an eye on Miami for potential coaches for the Chiefs staff.
Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, who covered Romeo Crennel when he was with the Cleveland Browns, took a guess that Brian Daboll, Miami's current offensive coordinator, could end up being the Chiefs next offensive coordinator. (Let's reiterate -- he's just guessing, not reporting.)
[Update: And I just heard that Michael Lombardi on 810 WHB this morning speculated on Miami as well. Here I thought I had some original thoughts...]
I've also separately heard that the Chiefs could be looking at someone on Miami's staff and Daboll makes a lot of sense, if the Patriots connection matters. He was in New England in the early-to-mid-2000s so he knows both Crennel and GM Scott Pioli. He's worked for several guys (Tony Sparano, Eric Mangini) who have that Pioli/Parcells connection that we sometimes see in Chiefs' hires.
I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm just saying he's one of the names being thrown around in league circles.
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Enough , with the Patriot connections
go sign Jackson.
Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.
by Hoochdawg on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Where do I sign?
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
that
is one of the most disturbing things ive ever seen
by DanielH123 on Jan 11, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Public service to those new to AP
If you click on the subject line of a picture, you can stop viewing it.
Thank god.
by kcsno56 on Jan 11, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks nelowakcfan
Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.
its like snoop dogg from that awful movie bones
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
You love this off season stuff, don't you, Joel? Don't lie.
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Joel loves anything that gets us to comment
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
that case he could post just about anything. LOL
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
he does that anyway
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Do you remember the lockout time frame?
Holy crap on a stick we were getting a little desperate for stories around here
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
by nateforchiefs on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Grats, Nate.........keep it going my brother! One year down and many to come!
"I didn't asktt .........who gave the ordertttttt......... because it had nothingtttt.......... to do ........with business!"
by Masons on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Hell yes he does and so do I
The lockout was awful. It just makes me appreciate this kind of stuff all that much more. Keep it comin
by TheScootness on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
too bad we let spanos get away
But Daboll did a good job with his team this year especially late.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 PM CST reply actions
Sparano?
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
The Chiefs are looking for a "dynamic offensive leader"
Daboll would not satisfy that for me.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Well I know what I would be looking for
But what Crennel Pioli are looking for, not a clue
Not many of note worked under crennel the first time.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
please no
Daboll stunk at Cleveland… and stunk in Miami. May as well bring back Solari Muir. IMO, we need to get an OC that has some experience with QB’s and high scoring offenses. Joe Lombardi from New Orleans would be a nice choice.
by Chiefsfan584life on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 PM CST reply actions
Everybody is a nobody,
until sombody hires you… and you win!
Breaking:
Arrowhead Pride’s Joel Thorman reporting Brian Daboll to the Chiefs
#82 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 11, 2012 12:22 PM CST reply actions
That was my interpretation too.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
I like this hire I think it would be a good fit and he well be here for a wile has well instead of one and done oc also this guy got matt moore going has well he would get cassle to play at is high level again lets get him in here!!!!
by Micheal Pearson on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 PM CST reply actions
Brian Shottenheimer?
Thoughts on this? I don’t pay enough attention to the Jets, but certainly an OC that’s been a part of an offense that went to the AFC championship game 2 years in a row…
Please give me a big mean MLB. A true BAMF to round out the LB corps.
If anyone knows how to work with a below mediocre QB it would be Shottenheimer.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 11, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah how to do so badly anyways
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 11, 2012 1:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think Shottenheimer is going to work for his dad in Tampa Bay.
Oh, also I think his dad is going to get the Tampa Bay job.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
I'm assuming you mean Brian and not Marty.
Although either way that’s interesting…
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Actually
I heard from a Miami fan here at work today that Brian said he doesn’t want to work under Marty. Wants to forge his own way instead. Not sure if that’s true or not.
by TheScootness on Jan 11, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
I heard the same thing.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
I want Martz
Our Defense isn’t the problem! Bring Martz in light up the scorebaord, we’d have a complete team. soliod D good Offense. Hve we ever had a complete team! Marty’s era real good D, Offense was alright. With Vermeil, all Offense, no D. Keep Crenell calling the D! Martz Offensive gu ru. Super Bowl!!
Nobody else wants Martz...
He ignores running backs, never max protects, and let’s his QB’s get killed.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
He ignores running backs?
Tell that to Matt Forte and Marshall Faulk. Jamaal Charles would be fine in Martz’s offense. It’s Tony Moeaki and Leonard Pope who would completely disappear. And also Matt Cassel would die.
Not saying I want him, because I definitely don’t. But Martz can definitely incorporate a dynamic running back into his scheme.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Not using the Rb was part of the reason him and Lovie didn't get along
there were games Forte would have less than 10 carries and the media would show some stat that would show that whenever Forte didn’t get x amount ov carries the Bears would lose.
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
really, he has pretty much sucked since coming back
after the Greatest show on turf.. But the Bears were contenders so hard to say. I’m ok being pass happy, problem is no one is going to trade us for drew breeze.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 11, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
okay, so maybe he doesn't _ignore_ running backs
but he certainly seems to burn bridges and get shown the door pretty much everywhere he’s been since St. Louis, and that didn’t end well, either. Not sure that kind of personality is good for the Chiefs, and certainly not for Matty Nice.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
I love how formatting doesn't work in the title.
Note to self: Don’t try to italicize in the title of the post.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
At least you taught me how to italicize
See, something good came of it.
by old_school on Jan 11, 2012 2:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He does burn bridges. I am pretty sure under the word Cocky in the dictonary you would see a picture of Martz
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
not a fan, but
we are weak at TE anyway, and i dont suspect too many people would mind if Cassel got killed. I would though.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Jan 11, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone says Martz ignores RB but he had a HOF in Marshall Faulk
and this year Matt Forte was having his best year.
I agree with the max protect and that the QB can get killed, which we know that Cassel would do.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
Don't his backs catch a lot of passes?
The question is whether or not Charles would fit well in that role.
by old_school on Jan 11, 2012 2:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He would indeed.
But Martz is a bunghole.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
At what point do people begin to realize that maybe, just maybe it WASN’T Martz who was mostly responsible for St. Louis’ offense, and maybe, just maybe, it was actually Vermeil that got his team to the top?
Both answers are incorrect.
It was the 5 Hall of Famers (Faulk, Warner, Pace, Bruce, Holt) and 2 dynamic playmakers (Proehl, Hakim) that put the Rams offense over the top.
There certainly won't be 5 HOF's
But your point is still valid and the same.
What do you think? Three? Think Warner gets in?
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Warner probably gets in.
Will be close. He has a very strange career.
I’d set the O/U at 3, yes.
I think Pace is a shoe-in, Warner is likely but not a lock, and Faulk has obviously already been inducted.
I’m less sure about Holt and Bruce.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Dunno, Vermeil was able to build another great offense here
Martz hasn’t done that since.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
Tory "Now I've Got Two Rings" Holt a HOF'er?
Ha HA ha HA HA.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Daboll isn't bad I think he did good for what he had to work with
I like Brian Schott also
love how Shutdown Corner puts it ...
Jets fire their scapegoat, hire Dolphins scapegoat … truth right there
hell, people here calling for Muir’s head on a platter all year long … odd though, when Haley was gone and Orton was QB we moved the ball pretty well
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Don't forget that the communication system started working properly
and the plays started getting in on time too.
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
those things do rather help :-)
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Hasn't someone made a story/post with a near-exhaustive potential coordinator list in the past?
That’d be fun to see. A poll of all the possibilities would be fun, too. Just saw Dirk Koetter (sp?) listed by Williamson on ESPN as a possibility. There’s probably close to 10 names that might make sense by this point.
just sounds so much like Turd Cutter
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Reply fail... Should be here: Anyone want to help make a list? I won't have time to write the post, though. :)
Hue Jackson
Jim Zorn
Dirk Koetter
Brian Daboll
Nick Siriani
Philbin
…
I know more have been mentioned…
hard to gauge the job he's done
seems to be all MJD….not much talent in jacksonville
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 11, 2012 1:37 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Adding Carthon
Hue Jackson
Jim Zorn
Dirk Koetter
Brian Daboll
Nick Siriani
Philbin
Muir
Maurice Carthon
Adding Saunders
Hue Jackson
Jim Zorn
Dirk Koetter
Brian Daboll
Nick Siriani
Philbin
Muir
Maurice Carthon
Al Saunders
Adding Schottenheimer
Hue Jackson
Jim Zorn
Dirk Koetter
Brian Daboll
Nick Siriani
Philbin
Muir
Maurice Carthon
Al Saunders
Brian Schottenheimer
ADDING TODD HALEY
Hue Jackson
Jim Zorn
Dirk Koetter
Brian Daboll
Nick Siriani
Philbin
Muir
Maurice Carthon
Al Saunders
Brian Schottenheimer
TODD HALEY
Todd Haley = Halley's Comet
He a shining light in the sky once every 76 years.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
yes, an exhaustive list of names of all OC candidates, with work history and scheme beliefs for each one
… and a summary of how each team did while under that OC
about 4-6 hours of work, so we can kick the idea around for an hour, all of which will be summarily ignored by Pioli and Hunt
splendid idea!
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I think someone could do it quicker, especially the regular writers
And, of course, it wouldn’t factor into Pioli and Hunt’s decision. I thought the purpose of this site was for us to share our thoughts on these types of things…
adding Mike Martz
ADDING TODD HALEY
Hue Jackson
Jim Zorn
Dirk Koetter
Brian Daboll
Nick Siriani
Philbin
Muir
Maurice Carthon
Al Saunders
Brian Schottenheimer
TODD HALEY
Mike Martz
Anyone want to help make a list? I won't have time to write the post, though. :)
Hue Jackson
Jim Zorn
Dirk Koetter
Brian Daboll
Nick Siriani
Philbin
…
I know more have been mentioned
You know
technically, we still have an OC, i do not recall a report that said Muir officially retired or was fired.
by Chiefsdodgerslakers2415 on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM CST reply actions
SHhhh...
He’ll retire when he wakes up.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 11, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Brian Shottenheimer...
…has the label of being ultra conservative. Tell me we all don’t want that.
Huge Dino Hackett fan.
Maybe he had to be?
With Dirty Sanchez handing out INTs like candy?
Lots of finger-pointing and name-calling in Jetsville these days.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 11, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
It could very well be genetic.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Nurture > Nature
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
just get the right guy, and soon before teams start taking away the best options.
who cares about cassel, you could have an awesome run game if romeo commits to what he said on the dp show about the o-line and running game…id like to think we see some te/hb/oline early in this draft. run that football, use our speed guys in space 1 on 1vs lb’s finally mccluster can be a lesser version of sproles, and you could have a really efficient offense to go with a top 10 d.
go get someone
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
And eat it.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Kind of depressing
Only two times in the past 10 seasons has a defensive coach won the super bowl without Manning or Brady.
The two was the Steelers with Tomlin and Cowher.
Looks like you gotta have an elite offense or an elite defense to win…..doesn’t help to be conservative balanced.
I think we are on the verge of a dominate defense. Hopefully through the draft and FA we get even better.
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 11, 2012 2:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
What in saying is
Instead of a more balanced approach…like a top 10 offense and top 15 defense.
You may be better off to be top 3 offense and top 20 defense.
Or
Top 3 defense and top top 20 offense.
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 11, 2012 2:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
no no ...
balanced would be top 3 defense and top 3 offense :-)
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Ya and how did that balancing act go for the Chargers last year...
Didn’t they have the top defense and offense… yet floundered their way out of the playoffs.
Go Chiefs!!!!
A la Vermeil's Chiefs?
Doesn’t work either
by ChiefMedicineMan on Jan 11, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Brady and the Pats' offense was not real impressive in their first Superbowl run.
They were a balanced and extremely boring team that year.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
yeah, but their D hit HARD
They had the Rams wide-outs hearing footsteps by the second quarter, and the Greatest Show on Turf was running scared.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Yeah, I seem to remember that they won that whole season mostly because of their defense.
Which would go against Matt’s comment because Brady wasn’t Brady yet.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
GAAAAAWWWWWDDDD!
I’m getting sick of these discussions. They start to run together. HIRE SOMEONE ROMEO… I mean PIOLI!!! Get it done. Sick of wondering and waiting.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon(in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
But then he might feel guilty commenting.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Sick of waiting?
Crennel was just named HC a few days ago… only one other team has hired a HC for open spots, the Jags. McHoodie went back to New England to a team he used to work for, but other than that, do you see teams hiring right and left? Fercrissakes, the playoffs are still under way.
Free agency is a ways off, and the draft isn’t until April. Slow your roll a bit. Let’s let RAC do some interviewing and get the right guys, not the first guy necessarily. Sheesh, do you think he had his staff identified even before he knew if he was HC?
Heck, he might not even be done letting people GO yet, let alone bringing new people in.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
God I hope not
Daboll is sorry, wouldn’t mind bringing him in at a lower coaching position.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 11, 2012 3:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Adding Tom Moore to List
Hue Jackson ( He turned the Raider around)
Jim Zorn ( not Bad of a choice, He could learn from Tom Moore)
Dirk Koetter
Brian Daboll
Nick Siriani ( Let him work with Tom Moore)
Philbin( He’s staying in GB)
Muir ( go ahead & retire)
Maurice Carthon( still have ? about play calling, now IF he was to work with Charlie Weis this Summer than YES)
Al Saunders ( NOT COMING BACK HERE BEEN SCREWED TOO MANY TIME. Last time he was here, did great job of calling plays)
Brian Schottenheimer ( TO PREDICTABLE) LOOK AT THE JETS!!!
TODD HALEY
Tom Moore ( Just look at Indy & what he did with Peyton in company, He could help develop Cassel or Stanzi) With his Offensive & Romoe defensive from the last three game, we could be in the Super Bowl in Two years.
Tom Moore
is on the Jets. He is a retired coordinator and now just a consultant. What makes you think he is leaving?
by michael28102 on Jan 11, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
time to not mince words.
Hue Jackson would be a prime candidate. Hes pissed and wants to prove everybody wrong. If we cannot get hue, i would be fine having muir back. Muir might have been conservative. but the last 5 games he picked up his aggressiveness. With a HEALTHY chiefs team, his play calling might be a lot better.
No thanks, no Muir
Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.
Tom Moore
It wouldn’t hurt to see if he would interested in be part-time OC, He could help groom either Zorn or Siriani to be the OC for 2012-13 season.
We don,t need conservative
Are the Saints conservative, is new England conservative we get to conservative we will never win a Super Bowl< 65 T-power trap, Hank Stram was not that conservative, i have not forgotten those teams running the scores up on us while we were down, we have never had our fans come to our games with Paper Bags on their heads and if it was not for the Chargers letting Brees go, they still would be walking around with sacks on their heads
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