Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 1/11
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jan 11, 2012 6:49 AM CST
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Happy Anniversary! On this day in 1970, the Kansas City Chiefs defeated the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl IV. It's been a long time. Here's a little about that and the rest of today's Kansas City Chiefs news. Enjoy.
"I just prayed to the Good Lord that I'd have the strength and courage to play a good game."
A weary Len Dawson spoke these words in the Kansas City Chiefs' locker room Sunday night after receiving a congratulatory phone call from President Nixon from the Chiefs' 23-7 Super Bowl victory over the favored Minnesota Vikings.
Chiefs War Party Freezes Vikings In Super Upset from The Daytona Beach Morning Journal - Jan 12, 1970
Several influential newspaper and Web columnists, along with a squadron of talk radio hosts, almost unanimously have agreed that, sure, Crennel is a good guy and probably will be a good coach, but...
Why does everything else seem to be in chaos?
Why won't the Chiefs organization provide any concrete answers to critical long-term questions?
There is a strong sense around Kansas City that longtime Chiefs loyalists, willing to give the younger Hunt every chance to succeed in deference to his late father Lamar, have decided that five years of basically muddling along without any clear direction is more than enough.
Will Romeo Become The Next Victim? from FOX Sports Kansas City
Johnson was one of many players inside Kansas City's locker room who spoke out in favor of Crennel on getaway day, but the players also knew their support would only go so far.
Crennel's fate ultimately rested in the hands of Chiefs Chairman and CEO Clark Hunt and General Manager Scott Pioli.
"I think it's a great decision by the people upstairs," Johnson said. "I'm sure that all of the players are very excited and we kind of feel like we got what we wanted, so there are definitely no complains. It will be all open-arms."
Derrick Johnson: Players Connected With Romeo Crennel's Confidence from The Mothership
Fan voting is currently underway on the Chiefs Facebook page to decide the team's top defensive play of the 2011 season. This year, fan voting will determine the order of 65TPT's Top-10 of 2011 lists.
Voting will stay open through Friday afternoon (VOTE HERE) before the Top-10 results are unveiled on KCChiefs.com Saturday morning (1/14/12). Next week, we'll open voting for the Top-10 Moments of 2011.
Vote For The Chiefs Top Defensive Play For The 2011 Season from The Mothership
I would think the events in Oakland on Tuesday were duly noted in Kansas City.
A day after the Chiefs promoted former defensive coordinator and interim coach Romeo Crennel to permanent head coach, the Raiders fired head coach Hue Jackson.
Jackson immediately goes to the front of the line of available offensive coordinators. The Chiefs need an offensive coordinator, and reports say they are looking for a dynamic offensive leader to allow Crennel to worry about other things.Will Chiefs Pursue Hue Jackson? from ESPN
"It's the Kansas City Chiefs. This is an amazing place," Pioli said. "This is an amazing legacy that is here. I came here to win as well."
But Pioli wouldn't be pinned down on when Chiefs fans could see the playoff win promise land again. The Chiefs haven't won a playoff game since 1994. Only the Detroit Lions, who lost their playoff game Saturday, and Cincinnati Bengals have seen longer playoff droughts.
"I came here to win games. I do believe in my heart, to my core that we are going to win," Pioli said. "I know we are. It is a matter of time. But I am not giving you an exact date."
Chiefs GM: 'We Are Going To Win' from KCTV5
The Chiefs played press coverage (Greg Jennings didn't play) and took the Packer receivers out of the game.
ESPN's Tim Hasselbeck doesn't think the Giants have the personnel to match up in press coverage all game.
"To look back and say they had this formula that no one else had is inaccurate," he says of the Chiefs' game plan. "Here's the other thing that people don't know: People say, ‘Oh, the Kansas City Chiefs, they're not any good.' Well guess what? Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr are really good players. The Kansas City corners are better than (Corey) Webster and (Aaron) Ross. People don't know about them, but the reality is they're better."NY Giants Can Stop Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rodgers With Steady Diet Of Jason Pierre-Paul, Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck from The New York Daily News
Mangini was Crennel's first choice to join him in Cleveland as Browns coordinator in 2005, but Patriots coach Bill Belichick pulled a power play and swayed Mangini to stay with a promotion to defensive coordinator. Belichick made the move while competing in the AT&T National Pro Am Golf Tournament in Pebble Beach, Calif...
...If Pioli acceded to Crennel's wishes, the other stumbling block is whether Mangini would feel comfortable working under Pioli. Mangini still has another year on his Browns contract (at a reported $3.9 million) and is in no rush to take just any job.
Cleveland Browns' Draft Projections: Can We Hold Off, Please? from The Cleveland Plain Dealer
"My dad always said, 'You want something better,'" Bell said. "I wanted to do something bigger ... something different."
Bell certainly accomplished that by boarding an airplane for the first time and leaving the South for the University of Minnesota. As a Golden Gopher, the defensive end was a two-time All-American, played in two Rose Bowls and was part of the 1960 AP and UPI national championship team.
On Thursday night, Bell will be in Omaha to receive his 1962 Outland Trophy and looks forward to replacing the old plaque that hangs in the family room of his Kansas City home. Bell will be the former recipient honored along with 2011 winner Barrett Jones of Alabama during the annual Outland banquet at the Downtown DoubleTree.
Outland Winner Bell Kept Looking For Something from The Omaha World-Herald
Chiefs general manager Scott Egoli promoted Romeo Crennel to head coach to prove the genius of his general managership.
Crennel's ascension isn't about the love he enjoys in the locker room. Compared to Todd Haley, Chiefs players would love Rich Kotite. Nope. This hire was about Scott Pioli's egoli.
Egoli believes he gave Haley all the tools necessary to contend for a Super Bowl title. If coached properly, in Egoli's mind, Tyler Palko should have been Kansas City's version of T.J. Yates.
Crennel was hired because he's willing to pretend Matt Cassel is a franchise quarterback, Tyson Jackson is the next Richard Seymour and the Chiefs don't miss Brian Waters.
I wish Romeo luck.
Saints Have A Dirty Little Secret from FOX Sports
Jan Stenerud, a member of the NFL Hall of Fame and a former Minnesota Viking, hosted "Tailgating With Jan," as part of Know Your Stats. Stenerud, an affable Norwegian who began his career with the Kansas City Chiefs in 1967, got involved in Know Your Stats after his close friend, Mike Haynes, a fellow Hall of Famer, was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Haynes is the figurehead for the promotion, Hedgpeth added.
"When Mike told us about his situation and being diagnosed with prostate cancer in its early stages, we all knew it was a 'no brainer' to be screened on an annual basis because early detection is critical to survival," Stenerud said in a press release last week.
NFL Hall Of Famer Jan Stenerud Promotes Prostate Cancer Awareness from The Minot Daily News
Now that the Raiders have fired Hue Jackson after one year on the job (what a place that is), here's a suggestion for Romeo Crennel.
Hire Al Saunders as the Chiefs offensive coordinator ... unless the Raiders promote him from offensive coordinator to head coach.
It's Time To Bring Al Saunders Home from The Red Zone
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Egoli
What a joke….there are a lot of things wrong…ego isn’t one of them
Arrowhead pride addict
by groundedchevy on Jan 11, 2012 6:59 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Classic case of projection.
When you’re a walking ball of ego, everyone else looks like an egotist.
by TwelfthMan on Jan 11, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's funny
Because when I read it I don’t put the emphasis on Ego like Whiltlock is, I always read it like he misspelled e. coli. At this point though it’s been how many years Jason? Move on man! Let it go!
by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 11, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
freaking Whitlock
Pioli said straight after he drafted Jackson that he didn’t think he compared to Seymour.
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
Ha-ha
Saw “Egoli” in the FOX Sports article and didn’t read any further, figured it was Whitlock. Once again, he’s exploring his grudge against the Chiefs GM.
Love this!
“Here’s the other thing that people don’t know: People say, ‘Oh, the Kansas City Chiefs, they’re not any good.’ Well guess what? Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr are really good players. The Kansas City corners are better than (Corey) Webster and (Aaron) Ross. People don’t know about them, but the reality is they’re better.”
Nice to see the Brandons getting some love!
Yep...
Now let’s make sure these guys stay a team…
by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 11, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
I really hope we can keep them together
These guys are probably the best pair of corners in the league, besides Philly.
by Respect 58 on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
do you disagree with this statement?
Crennel was hired because he’s willing to pretend Matt Cassel is a franchise quarterback
THIS scares the hell outta me … it’s worrisome, just as it’s been since Cassel got here, and if Cassel is our starter in 2012 you should be worried, too
Whitlock also mentioned Brian Waters, just as Steve Cameron did (in fact, Cameron blasted Pioli on that issue, among others) … Cameron gets a pass for saying the same thing as Whitlock?
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"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
how bout this
Romeo is an alien that feeds on bad quarterbacks
just as accurate as what Whitlock said! THIS worries me…. we have lots of bad quarterbacks, Romeo is gonna go on a feeding frenzy!
First of all - way to miss out on the important part.
The whole childish “Egoli” crap.
Second – you’re just clinging to any pro-Waters things you can get your hands on. Would he have helped this year? Maybe. To what degree? And would it have been more helpful than promoting a ripe Asamoah to starter? Maybe? (Long term, my guess is probably not).
And the whole “Because he’s willing to pretend….etc” thing is pure conjecture. I hope that’s not true. But I don’t really have any reason to believe so unless we see it in practice.
The guy has a hardon for trying to crucify Pioli.
The guy has natural talent as a writer and wastes it on vendetta fueled vitriol, sensationalism and name calling. That’s a shame.
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by TRSChief on Jan 11, 2012 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yesterday I was told that Chadiha also has a hardon for crucifying Pioli
Am I really to believe that there is some anti Pioli conspiracy in both the local and national media? Could it just be that people honestly don’t believe the hype?
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Eh, when media types suddenly have far less access under a new front office than they were used to with an old front office
You think that all of these guys are going to be total grown ups about it, and not hold a grudge?
You also think the media personalities don’t have huge egos of their own, and when they get thus out the bruised egos don’t result in name calling and head hunting?
Seriously?
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Makes sense for Whitlock, but what about Chadiha?
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Don't know, I'm not familiar with the guy.
Which is why I didn’t comment on him.
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When I hear Chadiha speak
I hear someone who doesn’t seem to know much about the NFL at all really. He seems like a hack who is trying to lambaste people to make a name for himself.
that's it! it's a conspiracy!!!
everyone in the media, local and national, is conspiring to make Pioli look bad, when in truth Pioli is incapable of making mistakes!
that MUST be it!
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Why are you just making things up?
Calling out Whitlock for name calling, sensationalism and touting conjecture like it’s fact is the same thing as saying Pioli is incapable of making mistakes?
You’re 10 shades of wrong this morning, ups.
Pioli has been wrong about plenty of things. Not sure why you are having a hard time understanding that saying Whitlock is usually full of shit is the same thing as saying Pioli is infallible?
I’m not sure how else I can spell it out. I know you have the ability to comprehend. It’s just the lack of desire to do so that’s derailing you today.
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You make it sound like there is a grey area in life
Like maybe Whitlock and Chadiah are on to something but are a little too harsh
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Not at all.
I’m saying I’m not going to spout conjecture like it’s fact.
People around here tend to jump all over things anytime they see something they want to believe, and latch on to it. Whether it’s remotely based in fact or not. Goes both ways. People blindly defending Pioli or Hunt when they may well be doing awful things behind closed doors, or people on a crazy witch hunt for those same guys when there’s nothing but “he said / she said” stuff to go on.
I tend to not like to freak out and assume that just because I want something to be true, that it is.
I know next to nothing about Chadiah. But Whitlock is an op-ed columnist. Not a journalist. So the very nature of his job is mostly just running his mouth. If he came up with some hard-hitting factual piece with legitimate evidence showing Pioli was some kind of evil mastermind or total incompetent boob just bumbling his way around – I’ll be happy to hold the banner while he charges in.
But instead he’s just a talking head who acts like he has a bruised ego of his own. And that’s a shame, because he has a lot of talent as a writer. And if he was a journalist instead of an op-ed guy, he could be pretty fantastic. As it is, it’s just wasted talent.
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and what kind of "evidence" do you require? what does a journalist do that would qualify?
Whitlock is an op-ed columnist. Not a journalist. So the very nature of his job is mostly just running his mouth. If he came up with some hard-hitting factual piece with legitimate evidence …
talk to people behind the scenes? check some stats and data? what would you suggest for these guys to do?
again, my issue is that people seem all too willing to slam Whitlock just because he’s Whitlock, as opposed to discussing the relative merits of the points he makes … even when his points are the same as those made by many others, Whitlock gets “called out” while others do not
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I discussed the points. Pretty much all of them are conjecture.
So he’s presented us in this article with conjecture and nose-thumbing like a kid who just got grounded.
Journalism doesn’t sell these days. Shock value does. It generates more traffic (and thus, ad dollars).
Why would he be bothered to do actual reporting / journalism? He makes a lot of money just spouting off opinions and doing name calling.
And again, that’s a shame. Because he’s very good with the written word. He could be so much more. (But he may not get paid nearly as well).
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I understand your point, and I agree that he's a good writer (when he wants to be)
he’s done some VERY in-depth columns about the evils of gangsta rap (among other things) but few around her would give him credit, simply because of his name and “reputation”
when the Michael Vick dog-fighting thing broke, Whitlock was one of the first to say that Vick was beyond wrong (and I agreed, then and now) while all too many seemed to try to “gloss it over” and pass it off as a “kids will be kids” incident
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I've agreed with Whitlock on occasion
Every once in awhile he sits down, takes off the clown suit and does some really good writing. That’s the only reason I keep up with the guy. I keep hoping he’ll do more of that.
It’s just that his bread and butter is schtick. And the schtick sucks.
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I'm with you, I wish he WOULD do more of that really good stuff
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
But look how many more comments the BAD stuff generates :)
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
TRS, it just seems beyond insane that people slam Whitlock for giving an opinion that's identical to what others give, often in terms much stronger than Whitlock
Whitlock is full of shit but Cameron, Mellinger, Chadiha and countless others are not? so let’s bodyslam Whitlock because he uses the term “Egoli” where others don’t
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I'm not familiar with Cameron or Chadiha.
Mellinger is sometimes pretty good, and sometimes pretty blah. (Don’t worry, I won’t shoot him.)
I don’t live in the KC market. I only comment on the writers I read and the radio guys I listen to (streaming at work when I can).
When people talk bullshit, I call them out. When I don’t know who they are, I don’t say anything, rather than pretend I do (though I’m sure there’s plenty of that on AP as well).
So now you’re saying it’s okay for them all to use conjecture and general bullshit “reporting” styles, but it’s not fair for only Whitlock to be called out on it?
I’m a fan of nobody using sensationalist crap. If the others do it, I’m glad I’m out of market and don’t hear it I guess.
As far as saying what someone else says – you can find multiple people to say just about anything. For every media personality that swears Pioli is evil and domineering and Haley was an innocent victim, I can find you one that says Haley was impossible to work with and an ego maniac, and that Pioli should have moved on sooner.
Does that make either of them right? Or is it possible that the truth isn’t as extreme as either one of those?
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every columnist uses conjecture and their own brand of logic to "connect the dots" and draw a conclusion
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Not really. Many columnists just put down one dot.
And shout from atop it. Because that one dot gets them paid.
The whole cry wolf thing. Shout a bunch of unfounded BS long enough, and when you finally break through with a nugget of truth – people will be hesitant to believe you.
That goes for all columnists. Not just Whitlock.
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by TRSChief on Jan 11, 2012 9:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec for a masterful metaphor.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Never compliment me! My head is too big as it is.
I’m already convinced that I should be the Chiefs Head Coach, OC, DC and GM. And the owner of the Mets.
Also, I’m pretty sure that I’m going to win the 2012 Presidential election.
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And I haven't forgotten that TRSrkr thing.
At least that lets me blame all my stupidest comments on you.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
At least everyone could believe it.
Sounds like a good alibi to me.
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You guys are really harshing my morning mellow
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
I blame Pioli :-)
others will disagree
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I want to see a legitimate reason to blame whoever is actually responsible.
Others will hurriedly grab a torch and join whichever witch hunt calls out their villain of choice. =P
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pitchforks are much more effective in close-range one-on-one backstabbing
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
nice try ... put Waters in at LG in place of Lilja and we'd have been better, yes
would it have been more helpful than promoting a ripe Asamoah to starter?
why are you so keen to defend Pioli? he’s brought us Matt Cassel … and that’s a brilliant move? he gave us Palko as Cassel’s backup … come on!
and if that’s what we see in practice, and in games … Crennel pretending Cassel is a real QB, then what will you say? you’ll apologize to Whitlock? (you know I;’d love to see that) :-)
as for “Egoli” that’s a prop, an attention getter (got yours, didn’t it?) … just as his long running joke about Jeff George
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Why does not attacking equate to defending?
Pioli has done some good things and some bad things.
You seem ready to jump off a cliff the second someone says something bad about him in this instance (mainly because he brought up Waters it looks like).
I’m not defending him anymore than I’m attacking him. I’m saying Whitlock is just blabbing his usual sensationalist name-calling crap to generate clicks on his blog.
Has nothing to do with Pioli. Has everything to do with Whitlock making a spectacle to try to generate traffic.
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you know the blip about the Chiefs was 1/10th of the column, right?
you think people deliberately type in the word “egoli” to see if Whitlock did a column and mentioned Scott Pioli? I don’t think so …
so let’s get down to the nub of it, he made two points:
1) Pioli is blindly stuck on Cassel
2) the Waters release was not a good idea
what’s indefensible about either of those statements?
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
He made the point that Crennel was only hired because he was a yes man
And generally did name calling.
I have no reason to believe or disbelieve that Pioli is blindly stuck on Cassel. Everything I’ve seen for or against these issues has been pure conjecture. Do you have some kind of conclusive proof either way that can sway me?
The Waters release was both good and bad. Better for the long term. Growing pains for the short term. I’m sorry you’re still so hung up on it. It was a mutual decision, so you should probably have as much of a problem with Waters about it as you do Pioli. Since both parties were in agreement.
Again – why does not attacking equate to defending?
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My guess about Waters
is that he couldn’t make it through a training camp, but he was told that he’d have to at least make a show of competing with Asamoah. If he just did what he did in last year’s training camp and ride the bike (sometimes), then got an auto-start over Asamoah, that would undermine everything the Chiefs were trying to build up. But that opinion won’t generate clicks.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Well that's certainly not sensationalist and consipracy-ridden.
That’s just no fun at all.
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I've got it!
The No Fun At All column! That title should keep the rubes coming in. The non-hate-filled opinions should generate many hate-filled comments.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
ups, scare me too. Here's how the Star headlined it....................
“Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel threw his support behind Matt Cassel at his introductory press conference Monday.
Crennel was also noncommittal on Kyle Orton’s return, acknowledging Orton’s free agent status and saying he “appreciated” Orton’s late-season performance in 2011. “Matt Cassel has won here,” said Crennel. “We’ve been to a playoff with Matt Cassel. I don’t think Matt Cassel has fallen off the wagon overnight. I think he’s a good talent, he’s a good quarterback, and he’s taken us to a playoff. I anticipate that he can do it again.”
Heh, completely leaves out the part where Romeo DIRECTLY credited Orton for getting him promoted to head coach.
Journalism……nope, advertising.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
OK Ups, here's a criticism on Cameron, since I didn't see this question in the comments anywhere.
What does he expect Clark to say? I mean, what specifically? Clark basically said that he wants to build through the draft. Cameron says that answer was incomplete, but what more does he want? Does he want Clark to tell us and every other team what players Pioli is targeting in the draft? Does he want Clark to tell us and every player’s agent just how committed Pioli is to signing or re-signing specific free agents?
Cameron is whining about not getting what he wants, but he never actually says what he wants. Even three-year-olds whine better than that. He is obviously being loud just for the sake of being loud.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I disagree with it
He had the chance to say Cassel was the guy at the press conference and left it vague and open. I think he’ll humor Scott with Cassel but I would be really surprised if Romeo let another mediocre QB bring down his team, he’s been there and I hope he pushes Pioli to get him a franchise guy.
by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 11, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
no more worrisome than fans willing to pretend Kyle Orton is a franchise quarterback =P
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whitlock acts like a small child
And thinks he’s so clever with names like “egoli” can’t stand this guy.
by jcrunninwild on Jan 11, 2012 7:33 AM CST via mobile reply actions
is this childish?
I’ve never met Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin. I can’t imagine the pain he must be going through having lost his son in a tragic accident. Coaches sacrifice so much time away from their families to provide them comfortable lives. Keep Joe Philbin, his family and the Packers in your prayers.
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Saying a nice thing in one breath does not change the fact of saying a childish one in the next.
You’re trying too hard this morning, ups.
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it's the snow
nobody told me it was coming … I was never sent a memo, nor did I approve of it
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Man I wish it would snow here.
Nashville’s nothing but 40 and rain all winter.
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Snow? What snow? It's 74 degrees outside
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NJ! it's our anniversary and you didn't send me any chocolate?!?
I’m hurt … all I can do to hold back the tears
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"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
haha
Whitlock wishes he could quit KC, but we rock ;)
wouldn’t ego be staying with Haley because he hired him?
not playing previous drafted players because he didn’t draft them?
not trading/dumping players he drafted because he DID draft them?
oh no i forgot ego is not giving certain reporters full access to all the juicy stories.
by fongKC on Jan 11, 2012 8:14 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Great interview by Pioli this morning on 610
Sounds like he’s finally starting to get it.
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Seemed much more humble
Said he makes note of his mistakes. That being a GM is different in each city, that its not one size fits all. That he knows he needs to change his approach with the media. Of course then he had to go on and on about what a good QB KCQB#7 is.
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Actually, I've never personally heard an interview where he sounds arrogant.
Maybe my own arrogance deafens me to the arrogance of others.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Sweet.
I tried posting that, but my work firewall wouldn’t let me. To make up for that, I’m gonna go to lunch and look at porn. Screw the man, man.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Only hire better than Hue Jackson would be Chip Kelly
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
i'm coming around on Hue...
i thought initially that we would have to blow up our whole offensive roster & start all over to fit what his philosophy, then i realized that he schemes according to the personnel around him rather than vice versa…plus he’s got to have some bad blood w the raider org after yesterday.
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by reedeasy on Jan 11, 2012 8:42 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
It fueled Shananhans fire
and he mad sure they destroyed the Raiders every year. Hue would do the same if he came here as the OC
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i am down with Hue for sure...
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
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I'm worried that Chip is a one-gimmick coach, and that gimmick wouldn't work in the NFL.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Well this year our gimmick was "3 and out"
So his gimmick has to be at least as good.
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That gimmick looks to be puttin gup mad yards and points year in year out
But why would any coach ever leave Uncle Phil?
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
I'll take him if he brings the Naboo starfighter helmets.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I'm willing to bet that Chip Kelley will only leaving Oregon for an NFL HC position
His current gig is too sweet to leave for an NFL OC position. Maybe I’m wrong, but its not like things are starting to turn south in Oregon. He’s got a well-oiled machine with tons of success and incredible job security.
I'm sure there will eventually be NCAA violations.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Would love Chip in red
but homey aint going nowhere. Dude is setting up for a decade long run with the Ducks
Must we give Whitlock more web traffic?
I know I know, unbiased linking to all Chiefs related articles.
must we give Thorman more web traffic?
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
... and it's not like he's a REAL journalist
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Then why are we paying him with all those beer gloves?
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This conspiracy theory that the Hunts and Pioli are deliberately putting a mediocre team together
as some sort of low-cost cash cow….it really needs to stop. It’s absurd. It makes no sense business-wise. It makes no sense based on the actual facts and events of the situation. It makes no sense for the competitive football men involved. I’m sick of hearing it come up on the radio, seeing it in comments sections here, and now in national commentary. It’s hackery at its worst, and smacks of a complete lack of critical thinking or any sense of objective assessment.
Blech.
by cheapham on Jan 11, 2012 9:42 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Thank you.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
You're welcome
I’ve been seeing this essential position stated all across the board…and it kinda just blows me away.
I agree. But in fairness, it does happen.
I remember Mike Brown saying that he doesn’t necessarily like going to multiple playoff games because they cost too much in bonuses.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I don't think it's really some sort of "low-cost cash cow."
It the unwillingness to make the big moves……afraid of taking the big risk. I keep using the example of NO’s, when Payton made his decision on Brees, when Brees was still in the hospital with his throwing arm in a cast. Brees talked about this last weekend. That was taking a risk and look how it’s worked out. I believe that fans want the Chief’s to take a risk and go after RGIII to have a chance at a Franchise QB that could lead this team for the next 15 years. This would give Pioli a chance to show how he could wheel and deal for the team to be better. BTW, RGIII is 6’2", 220 lbs. with Charles speed.
Agreed.
The trouble is, if Pioli tries to take a risk, trade up, sign a big free agent or whatever….and gets outbid, then we’ll probably never know about it. I mean, Pioli could make a completely legit offer for the Rams’ pick and then get outbid by some fool making a Ditka-like bid, and we’d never know that Pioli put forth a good effort. But you can bet the papers will make the public assumption that he didn’t.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Same with free agents.
If the Chiefs don’t sign someone, it’s assumed they didn’t even try. People think acquiring players is like picking out of a catalog. If you want someone, you just put in your order.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
So trading for Cassel wasn't a risk?
Most risks don’t turn out well. That’s why they’re called risks. It’s easy to cherry pick one that did work out well, and say that’s what we need to do. Yeah, we need an elite QB, but it’s not often that one presents itself as Brees did.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
I think that taking Cassel was a risk and now in the long run, it hasn't worked out.
It was a good stop gap measure and did help get the team started (and I think that Vrabel was actually a great help for this team while he was here) but I believe that Cassel has shown that he’s not our QB for the future so they should face reality, eventually get what they can and move on. To make the next step, the Chief’s need a better QB. It’s the unwillingness to face these facts and not make the next move that bothers me.
I agree with most of that.
But I think it’s too early to say they’re unwilling to face those facts. They weren’t going to replace him coming off a Pro Bowl season with a divisional championship. If they don’t now bring in someone to at least compete for the job, then I’ll agree with you on that last point.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Indeed, there's no way that Pioli, et al, don't see the same things we see
in terms of QB need and QB play on this team. They just happen to see more clearly the realities of their situation and their ability to address it. Realities like that are much less fun for us fans and for commentators hoping to get ratings of some sort.
the parts are finnally fitting together
to even think that orton, would not be the starter is rediculous, with a couple of good draft picks, the chiefs are ready, to make a run ,for the division, and the super bowl, and yes orton can turn the offense, into a high powered multi-weapon machine, we looked better in the last three games, than the past two years, we need a good kicker, succup sucks, you should never lose a game , with a kicker, defense looks great, battle is a short yardage, or 2nd string back, get the screens and sweeps ready for mccluster and charles ,get jones going on short with mcclain, crennell, you are the head guy now, make this work for all the fans aroud the country there are more of us than what you think, who, would have ever guest ,that the chiefs would go over 40 years with out another super bowl, this is deservered, for the life long chiefs fan, do, not blow it,
Dang !
did you really just say Succup sucks…. really.
Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.
It's obviously Succop's fault that Seymour blew up his blockers.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
He wants to keep Jones though!!!
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 11, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
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