Hue Jackson Fired By Oakland Raiders
by Joel Thorman on Jan 10, 2012 12:55 PM CST
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PrintIt's not an offseason unless the Oakland Raiders fire their head coach and that's what we have today. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Raiders have fired head coach Hue Jackson.
This is just...unbelievable. The Raiders fire a head coach every other year it seems and Jackson, who took over for Tom Cable who was fired in 2010, barely made it a year as the head coach.
The Raiders hired Reggie McKenzie as GM last week and it had been reported that he could end up firing Jackson. I read the reports but I didn't believe the Raiders would fire their head coach...again.
Oh, Raiders...never change.
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Hahahaha.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
by Tomahawk29 on Jan 10, 2012 12:57 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
Not that I should be laughing, what with KC having 5 HCs since Marty.
But this is just funny.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
how many has Oakland had in that span?
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good I was actually sweating there for a sec that we might have had 1 more
without actually looking it up myself. So we can still laugh at the Raiders for being more incompetent even if its only slightly so :)
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(7-9) My record of picking Chiefs games before the season
(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
Shouldn't be laughing...
because this probably means the Raiders are going after Joe Philbin and Matt Flynn. That could turn out to be a very potent combination.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jan 10, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Matt Flynn?
they justed traded 2 1sts for Palmer…
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
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by SFLChief on Jan 10, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No, Al Davis did.
And Hue Jackson was on board with that. Reggie McKenzie is going to turn this into HIS organization.
They will take the hit and trade Carson Palmer this offseason.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jan 10, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Al sined Carson from the grave?
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
Charter Member of Chief Fans for Neck Beards...Viva La Orton
by SFLChief on Jan 10, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
signed...
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
Charter Member of Chief Fans for Neck Beards...Viva La Orton
The deal was being made before he passed away.
It was just finalized after he died.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jan 10, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
and you think Al was working that deal from his deathbed?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Jan 10, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There had been rumors tying Oakland to Palmer for several weeks.
And he’d been on his “deathbed” for years.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jan 10, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
I think he'd actually been DEAD for several YEARS but ...
yeah
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Jan 10, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Al Davis has been working from his deathbed for the last decade
That is cray-z.
by DrDC on Jan 10, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
His death was a result of one of the conditions of the deal.
The full deal was: For Palmer, a 1st this year, 1st next year, and a chance to study the relic containing Al’s soul.
Mike Brown’s was trying to replicate the process Al used to become a lich, but he accidentally destroyed Al’s phylactery, destroying his undead form and banishing his soul from the material plane.
Which server are you on?
I don’t believe for a second that you didn’t get that entire paragraph from Dungeons and Dragons Online: Eberron Unlimited, that’s the very plot for the Wizard-King quest. I mean… uh….
Seriously I’m on Ghallanda and Thelanis.
The Kansas City Chiefs, ruining playoff hopes since 2010
the "invisible hand of Al Davis" reaches far and wide ...
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by upamtn on Jan 10, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
my guess is the Palmer trade was ALL on Hue ...
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Of course it was.
He bragged that it was the greatest trade in the history of the NFL.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
by Tarkus on Jan 10, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And a 3rd for Pryor
And a 4th for Campbell
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
by Tarkus on Jan 10, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice idea
but what exactly are the Raiders going to give up for Matt Flynn? They traded away this years entire draft already. Only a 1st in next years draft isn’t going to get it done I bet.
money
Flynn is a free agent. The Raiders don’t need draft picks to get him.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Ha Ha
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
So?
Basically
Lady Chief + Tarkus =
Meh...
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@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 10, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Damn. I wanted him to stay
like I want Denver to keep playing Tebow.
by Chiefs447 on Jan 10, 2012 12:57 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
We might be in trouble if Oakland gets a good coach.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
whats the odds of them getting a good coach though
knowing its a 1 and done job
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(7-9) My record of picking Chiefs games before the season
(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
What do you mean a 1 and done job?
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
there for 1 year and fired before the next
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(7-9) My record of picking Chiefs games before the season
(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
Based on what a new owner and GM did their first offseason?
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
based on the Raiders history
and that Al’s son is a chip off the old block, maybe this is a GM wanting his own team but until that proves to be the case I see this as Ginger Al being just a crazy as Poppa Al
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(7-9) My record of picking Chiefs games before the season
(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
Crazy Poppa never hired a GM to run the show.
This is clearly a new era.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
maybe
or Maybe Ginger Al is just better at PR and knows he should have a GMM for show atleast.
Like I said maybe your right and this is a new era of Raider football but for now atleast I see this as the 1st move by Ginger Al(sorry I forgot his sons name) and it looks ALOT like Crazy Al
-Kool Aid drinking Cassel Believer-
(7-9) My record of picking Chiefs games before the season
(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
Looks nothing like what Al would do to me.
I guess we’ll have to just agree to disagree.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Al Davis isn't there to mess with the coaches anymore
and his son did something Al never did which is get a GM
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
He's a hot head,
But I thought he had them heading in the right direction. Is Mckenzie going to bring one of the GB offensive assistants in to be HC ?
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
I think he may go after Winston Moss
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
This is who I want as the Chiefs OC!
I’ve been waiting for this announcement. Hue is an excellent offensive mind. His run scheme is dynamic and balanced. He developed Campbell very well and he knows the AFC West. This hire could make us real dangerous!
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 12:59 PM CST reply actions
He's a cool guy. I've met him at a coaching clinic
His last press conference was blown out of proportion. He was pissed. The team had the division in their hands and ga e it away, I’d be pissed too. We could use his scheme, knowledge, and attitude on offense. Give me him and Trent Richardson!
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I wasn't so much talking about that presser..
He just seemed really cocky and arrogant to me whenever I saw him, such as after the Carson Palmer trade when asked about who was going to start, things like that.
As Chiefs OC, obviously this wouldn’t be an issue because I’d never hear from the guy, so I’m on board for that Hue in KC. Can’t argue with his track record.
personell would have to be completely revamped for Hue's scheme.
no thanks
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 10, 2012 1:04 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Good coaches
fit their scheme to the personnel they have.
by bamhvac on Jan 10, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Personnel needs to be revamped anyway!
Yes thanks! All we would need is a beefier line, which is something we all want anyway…
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
new WRs, completely new o-line, new RBs,
how many more offseasons do we have to wait?
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 10, 2012 1:20 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
the same team that can't convert on 3rd/4th & short
let alone run a power blocking run scheme the whole game. we need maulers across the board for that & we have maybe 1?
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 10, 2012 1:29 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Well we need a G and RT without Hue and we have Hudson
So those are needs wether or not he comes…
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
we dont have legit field stretchers or qb to make the PA/deep passing scheme viable right now..
maybe after another couple of 6-10/8-8 seasons..i’d rather get a fresh OC that runs a better version of the scheme we have now than change it up completely.
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 10, 2012 1:37 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Bowe, Breaston and Baldwin
have just as much speed if not more than what Chad Johnson and Douchmanzadeh had. Ocho ran like a 4.54 40 at the combine. Bowe ran a 4.51.
..and you trying to tell me the Ravens receivers were fast?
Don’t have to run the exact same scheme as Oakland here. Hue knows offense.
Not to mention the power running game in the NFL is dead due to rule changes.
Like it or not this is the era of the spread in the NFL. Don’t believe me look at all the really good teams for the last few years. They all run a variation of the spread. We need a QB more than anything IMO.
by bamhvac on Jan 10, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Huh?
You don’t think Hue Jackson can’t work with Bowe, Breaston, and Baldwin? Raiders only used speedy guys because Al Davis wanted that! That’s not the philosophy of Hue. Also, all the fans want a beefier OL. Albert, Asamoah, and Hudson are fine. We need a new G and RT, so make the. Beefy. New RBs? We have Charles and can bring in a power guy. I don’t get it….
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Charles is great around the edge & off tackle
the feature guy in between the tackles? eh…Richardson would help in that department. I just think it would take 2 whole off seasons to get the right guys in place.
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by reedeasy on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
getting Bush as power back ... DeCastro at LG, Hudson at C, Asamoah at RG
omg, our Red Zone issues would be cured for the next 5 years!
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by upamtn on Jan 10, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
and GMTA!
we qualify :-)
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Or go Reiff and Saints OG. That would work too.
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Nicks isn't going anywhere
Saints will PRINT money if that’s what it takes to keep him
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Lol hey maybe they can't afford him after Bree's 100 mill contract
If so there’s Grubbs
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Brees will take a Manning-like "pay cut" and accept a measley $90 Million to keep the offense intact
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Yeah, I'd have to say he's one of those guys that would do that.
Sports needs more of those guys.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
yup
the Saints only need one guy like that
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He is so................
Breeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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too many free agents
Unless Brees signs before FA, tag is going to have be used. If know him, do they let Colston hit FA? Doubt it.
This
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ok, so ... re-sign Orton while Stanzi develops
and Carr, and Bowe, of course …
so, Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, Moeaki, Charles, Bush, Dex, McClain, and Orton … and Fleener (draft) … Albert, DeCastro, Hudson, Asamoah, Someone along the front line
oh yeah!
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That.... is a sexy offense there.
I’d be excited about that offense.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
that's what I'm thinking ... speed outside, power inside
can you imagine the numbers Orton could put up with a cast like that? how virtually unstoppable a team could be? toss in more depth at S and a few other places …
drool-worthy
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by upamtn on Jan 10, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That works just fine for me
Sign a NT if RAC thinks Powe isn’t ready and/or good enough. All done!
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Shawn Rogers works for me
Maybe he’d come this time now that Romeo is HC.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
by jmcgoblue on Jan 10, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There's a few attractive NT's out there
Rogers being one of them. Although if we go after a FA NT, I’d like us to be willing to go for the best available.
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I just like Rogers because he played his best under Romeo
A lot like Deep Freeze. But yeah, I’d be on board with other guys (or just giving Powe a shot) as well.
Damn, when does the season start again? :(
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Ups... I love you....r thinking....
No homo.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
no homo, just Bowe-yo :-)
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Not only does Hue work with his guys on Offense
he goes out of his way to find ways to help them be the players they could/should be. Like Darren McFadden. Without Hue, McFadden would not have reached his potential and become one of the best RB’s in the league (when healthy). Hue is not stuck on a specific offense. He took Jason Campbell and made him viable.
Hue Jackson builds around/uses what he has and he figures out a way to make the most out of it. Unlike some OC’s, like Josh McDaniel. Hue Jackson in KC would be a solid hire and I’m in total agreement with Larry here. Hue would be good for our offense. Love to see this happen. Plus, how motivated would he be to whip the Raiders twice every year? Great idea, hope it happens.
RG3, its easy as ABC.
I like the idea of Jackson as our OC
for all the reasons shotty brought up, plus he has some intensity and fire that the players could use.
Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.
Larry, good to seeya! and welcome aboard the DeCastro Train :-)
All we would need is a beefier line
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by upamtn on Jan 10, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm on the DeCastro and Richardson train!
And thank you!
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
this almost begs the question ...
do they grab Philbin for the Raiders?
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Phiblin will stay put because of fam issues
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
might ... truly sad for him and his family
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Oh and Hue Jackson, DeCastro, and Michael Bush....there we go!
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
and Jason Campbell :-)
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I'd love the Bush ... just as soon grab him as any RB in the draft
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I do want Richardson though :)
A top 5 D and Charles/Richardson/Dex would make us SB contenders, ala 49ers
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather see DeCastro than Richardson
But either would be nice. I just see our RZ struggles as a reflection of our line’s inablity to get “push” up the middle as the field shortens. DeCastro would go a long way towards fixing that.
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thank you! I think that very same thing ... DeCastro and Hudson at Center (in lieu of Wiegs) and Asamoah ... omg, the very thought of it is just ... !!!
is it kickoff time yet? I am SO ready for THAT kind of offense (can you tell?)
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have to say i agree with this method.
would be the best fix to our offensive issues
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
the trick is getting Pioli to understand and agree ...
WE know what needs to be done, but does HE know … or does he think he knows it all already and doesn’t need our expert advice?
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he will probably just do whatever we dont want. so if we dont want another de, get ready
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
what, you mean you DON'T want a team of all TE's and DE's?
I’m shocked!
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THis last draft and offseason warmed me to Pioli considerably
He addressed needs much more clearly.
Baldwin, Houston, Hudson, Bailey, and Powe were all picks I absolutely loved. Also, I loved the Breaston, Gregg, and McClain signings.
Hopefully he shows as much concern with shoring up our weak spots this year.
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not particularly impressed with Gregg, other than being a stopgap upgrade over Edwards
wonder how ready Powe is to taking over that spot? I’d love Fleener in the 2nd Round at TE (not that I don’t think Moeaki is awesome, he is)
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I loved the Gregg signing at the time
He hasn’t been great, no. But he was an upgrade over Edwards. He faded a little down the stretch.
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as you said: go for the best
GMTA
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+Gaither
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Good call
That was an excellent pickup. No idea what happened there, but that’d be one less need.
Sigh.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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Yep.
Like you, I loved Pioli’s offseason last year. If he can repeat that, the Chiefs should be very tough with the big 3 coming back from injury.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Agreed
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
yeah gaithers contract is up
i don’t think it was muir who said he couldn’t play. haley shipped him out
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 10, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
no way you'll ever know that
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I like DeCastro too
but I have a hard time believing our offense was a G, even an elite G away from being one of the best.
guard and a center, since hudson has to count in that scenario as hes in for weigmann
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Throw in the return of Moeaki and Charles
And are you at least getting close?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Something's still missing....hmm...
OH YEAH, A Quarterback! We need a Quarterback! :-P
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
know what I saw that I REALLY loved from Orton v Green Bay?
the way he was going over plays with Bowe, et al on the sidelines … I don’t remember Cassel doing things like that, but I could be wrong
nonetheless, that showed me a lot of leadership right there
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
yeah, the talk that Orton isn't a leader is bologna
the only knocks on him are his lack of mobility & occasional poor decision making. If no Manning I’d rather roll with him in ’12.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
and RT would be nice, and a really good power back like Bush ...
… and a QB not named Palko or Cassel, and a healthy JC and Moeaki (greedy? no, we call it VISION!)
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yep. its all quite possible.
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
yanno, maybe *I* should be the GM ...
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I can just see the press conferences now
dripping with sarcasm the reporters would be soooo confused…BUT AP would show up for support.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 10, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
would be awesome! :-)
I’d even take questions from Thorman!
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by upamtn on Jan 10, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe AP would get some real inside scoops then
before the ‘Wright’ media and 1 Arrowhead Drive wouldn’t be AS tight lipped?
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 10, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
what did half wright say today
anything
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 10, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
East ... do these lips look "tight" to you? ;-)
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Yes we need
2 interior OL, at least one OT, another TE, a bigger RB, JC and TM to return healthy, resign Bowe, and get better QB play on offense…..and a NT, another DE, ILB, S, resign Carr, and Berry to return healthy on D
Guard and a QB
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
I think our offense was a healthy Charles and a better o-line away from being one of the best
Decastro moves us strongly in that direction, so I would support it
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
The thing is
We all know JC is going to be splitting carries with someone throughout his career…why not make it someone who’s a comparable talent? Instead of the D having to focus on the run half the time, force them to focus on it all of the time.
I’m fine with DeCastro or an OT, but I think Richardson would make the offense almost UN-defendable. And as a bonus, if either RB is injured the running game doesn’t just disappear.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
then we'd have to come up with another high 1st round pick ... great idea though!
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Hey, Will Shields was a 3rd rounder
Just sayin’ ;)
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
also, DeCastro is OG not OT
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How completely?
Coryell offense: midrange to deep passes, TE as ultimate safety valve/touchdown machine, heavy does of power running game.
Erhardt-Perkins offense: short to midrange passes (emphasis on “yards in chunks”), TE as blocker/safety valve typically, mix of zone/man schemes on the o-line with heavy doses of the power running game.
The biggest issues? How plays are referred to by the staff and players (color v/s number, for example).
Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills/
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 10, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
I was just saying that
Why not hire him? (I know all you people will have millions of reasons, Some valid, some not)
yea i agree
but tha only thing is that i think evryone is going to want orton at qb and i think thats the way to go. I just dnt see cassel being the 1.
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by kcchiefsfan515 on Jan 10, 2012 1:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
id be ok with him as OC. hed have a hay day with our talent
He did some great things for oaklands offense
by jcrunninwild on Jan 10, 2012 1:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
also..woukd he try get cambell in kc?
Just throwing this out there
by jcrunninwild on Jan 10, 2012 1:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I was just thinking this. Campbell would give us a quality backup and would push Cassel.
He could also bring Michael Bush as a bigger back. I do want Trent Richardson though :)
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
if Orton was starting AND we had Campbell ... why the hell would we need Cassel?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
BOOM!
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im guessing he is implying we dont resign orton
But I hope we do and trade cassel.
by jcrunninwild on Jan 10, 2012 1:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We'll probably carry three QBs. :)
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Yes he would
He’d have Dex, Breaston, and Charles Beasting.
by Larryemcdaniel on Jan 10, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Good to see you back, Larry...
I wouldn’t mind it, but who would his staff be? There are some similarities between the Erhardt and Coryell offenses, but the biggest issue is how damned confusing will it be for Cassel to switch to his first (totally) new system since 2005?
Note: I am hoping we’ve got someone besides Matt behind C in 2012, but I’m not holding my breath.
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 10, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with you
He wouldn’t be a bad choice at all IMO
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Agree as well.
I was hoping for a Hue Jackson Hire before we hired Todd Haley…
I’d love to see Jackson added as the OC in KC.
And judging by how much importance he puts on the QB… maybe we could trade away a couple firsts for RG3 with Hue making the arguments in favor =P
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No matter how bad the Chiefs do,
At least the Raiders are always there to put a smile on my face. LOL, what a mess of an Orginization.
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
by dbakerku on Jan 10, 2012 12:59 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
I disagree
They are cleaning house, getting some good football minds in. Hue was old guard and this is a new change.
I don’t see how this makes them a mess.
by craig in calgary on Jan 10, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Um, they are the Raiders.
Synonymous with dumpster fire. Every year.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Al Davis is no longer running the show.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Well, I'm sure they'll bring in lots of talent
with all those draft picks this year… wait, never mind.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Not sure what that has to do with dumpster fires.
They’re limited in what they can do for the next year or two, but that doesn’t mean it’s going to be the same ole Raiders.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
doesn't mean they aren't
bringing in a Packer guy, firing a Raider guy, looking for a new head coach, has very few options in the draft… Seymour is getting older (damn him) and the new GM is, what, gonna clean house and insitute “the Packer Way?” I think we’ve got a few more years of the same old Raiders.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
look, just because he's dead that doesn't mean you can count him out of things ...
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by upamtn on Jan 10, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
He's been dead since 2003
never stopped him before
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
They Are Cleaning House
With no top draft picks until… I don’t even know when. This move puts a team that has a lot of talent that was pulling together offensively (finally) and puts them in rebuild mode.
by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 10, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, I mean, he exceeded expectations
but what ELSE did he do? Fired.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 10, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
completely agree with you craig. this was needed change. new gm, new group of people
its like when herm was let go, and pioli brought in his own.
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
What are they going to replace the mess with?
They gave their entire draft away for three QBs already. It’s going to be a long rebuild in Oakland if they are completely cleaning house.
remember when Pioli took over for the Chiefs?
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ok i'm just asking a question so don't crucify me
But when he was just an OC, wasn’t he actually a pretty good one. From what I remember the year before he was the HC raiders were right next to us in rushing, but also a top offense? even though they sucked and still do
Yep, I think he was a good OC
Just another bad move by OAK
So who are the other top potential FA OC's now
Would it just be him then? I know he’s an ex raider….I’m just saying. People can crucify me for thinking it. But at the same time. I really don’t see too many other top names out there who have been pretty good at being an OC
If you look at the conversations above...
I don’t think ANYONE is going to crucify you for considering this. Everyone else is too.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Yeah
I could get behind HJ as OC here
Needs for 2012:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker
Quarterback
by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 10, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
Bad move by Oakland
This dude was gettin it turned around. If McFadden hadnt gone done, theyd be in the tourney.
tomorrow:
Raiders hire Todd Haley!! ; )
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 10, 2012 1:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
day after tomorrow:
Raiders acquire Tyler Palko from Kansas City Chiefs for low, low price of 1st and 2nd in 2018.
"Why are all these people here? There are too many people on this earth. We need a new plague…"
-Dwight Schrute
by severn58 on Jan 10, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Heh.
No that gets another.
Heh. Heh.
And one more
Heh
:)
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 10, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Well that's like a 6th & 7th in 2012 right?
Good deal for them IMO :D
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
That was my first thought.
I think Haley would fit in perfectly with the Raiders. He’s got the personality.
by Bono Bootleg on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
THIS... would be hilarious.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Im guessing they go after Gruden again.. now that Al is gone.
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Apparently 8-8 in your first year of coaching just isn't good enough
Even with all the adversity.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
by NJChieffan16 on Jan 10, 2012 1:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
or, the new gm just wants his own guy. i dont blame him one bit, why take someone else's head coach?
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
That's true
But I would think that trying to work with him first would be good. Maybe a year? Maybe Hue didnt want to give in to his demands
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
by NJChieffan16 on Jan 10, 2012 1:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i dont know, personally, and this is pure opinion of course, i would want to start fresh, with my own head coach if i finally got the shot as a gm
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
i dont know, personally, and this is pure opinion of course, i would want to start fresh, with my own head coach if i finally got the shot as a gm
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
but as a GM, your job is on the line too
If you keep a guy you don’t really want just to ‘give it a shot’, that’s less time you have for installing your own people if it doesn’t work out.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Ask Tom Cable
He knows what you are talking about.
by Chiefsdodgerslakers2415 on Jan 10, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Except Cable was fired after three years, not one.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
doesnt shock me even a tiny bit.
if i went into the raider situation, i would want to mold that team around a different image….get away from the al davis penalty fest….hue jackson wanted more control, and quite frankly was part of that past which included the penalty record that kept them out of the playoffs..
if it were me, from the packers, hired as raiders gm….this is a no brainer
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
AL DAVIS LIVES!!
This is the same dumb crap Al Davis did. I suppose 8-8 and being in the race for the AFC West wasn’t good enough for the Raiders. Although, I really shouldn’t be surprised.
by Dtrain11j on Jan 10, 2012 1:04 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
but its not, they have a new gm, a new guy running the show....would you want to then run it your way?
this is BAD news for chief fans imo
because finally they are changing it up, and finding a new way
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
raiders getting a gm is bad news for the division for sure.
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 10, 2012 1:09 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
That new GM has a 5th and 6th round pick
to work with.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
He'll probably get fired next year
for an ineffective draft
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by DC_ChiefsFan on Jan 10, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
Although I’m laughing at Hue, I think this could be bad news for Chiefs fans.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
yes. agree completely
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
If the Chief's make the right moves, it shouldn't matter what the other teams do. The
biggest problem is getting the “right” QB.
precisely why it's so important for Pioli to ensure that Kyle orton re-signs with the team for 2012 ...
excellent thinking!
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Honestly, I'm still having a hard time shaking the idea...
of franchsing Bowe, then trading him along with maybe next year’s first to STL for that 2nd pick and getting RG3.
ESPECIALLY if Bowe is making unreasonable contract demands.
I see that offer as being at least as appealing to STL as anything else they’ll be offered, and not crippling us for the future.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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well, that assumes Bowe's demands ARE unreasonable
it also assumes that Baldwin can make the next level jump to be what Bowe has been for us (talentwise, potentialwise, probably … headwise and taking charge of his own situation remains to be seen)
it also assumes that we can find OLinemen as good (or nearly as good) as DeCastro in the 2nd or 3rd (or FA, but the only one I see is Nicks and I can’t imagine him leaving the Saints)
it also assumes that RG3 is “NFL Ready” and that’s not a guarantee
it also assumes we have no OTHER immediate needs to fill with a top pick NEXT year
a lot of assumptions there, MN …
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Mostly, it assumes RG3 is half as good as he's cracked up to be
In which case the rest of those issues drastically lower in their importance.
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if we had the OLine holes done, just a bit more depth, etc ... I'd be so much more tempted to say "go for it"
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I get that
It’s just tough to say no to a guy like RG3
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
With speculation that St Louis may be targeting Blackmon in the draft
I can’t see how they would say no to Bowe and extra draft picks. You are getting an established WR asking with extra ammunition to fill the numerous holes the team has. For RG3, I would have to do it if the Rams were willing
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 10, 2012 6:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know what's better
1. Hue Jackson being fired
2. San Diego keeping Norv Turner
3. Tebow somehow winning a playoff game and being viewed as the savior in Donkey Land.
RAC should be licking his chops…AFC West DOMINATION should be ours if we just stay out of our own way….
Kansas City Chiefs; Profitable Mediocrity since 1969.
If the Chiefs hire Josh McDaniels, I will cancel my season tickets.
by chai1836 on Jan 10, 2012 1:05 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
2. easily 2.
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
I like 'em all
Kansas City Chiefs; Profitable Mediocrity since 1969.
If the Chiefs hire Josh McDaniels, I will cancel my season tickets.
1 is scary. they are starting a new image, new coaches, new. that means order, somethng they have lacked
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
What is the world coming to....
when you think the Raiders are assembling some type of logic and order to their organization? :)
Kansas City Chiefs; Profitable Mediocrity since 1969.
If the Chiefs hire Josh McDaniels, I will cancel my season tickets.
Tebow won a playoff game
By torching a good D. Hopefully he’s not becoming a decent passer, or that’s trouble
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
if he's even close to that good on a long-term basis ... yeah, Broncos could be tough to deal with
Elway was “ugly” when he first came to the NFL … hellacious arm but his game was more like “streetball” than anything else … organized chaos, if you will
Tebow could develop a bit and become a VERY dangerous QB in this league
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None of those throws was really into tight windows.
Tebow doesn’t scare me one bit.
Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.
Bet he didn't scare the Steelers either
Now to be fair, we made him look terrible, so maybe our D is better than we thought.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Steelers screwed the pooch.
DE’s didn’t stay home, let him scramble left, corners let the receivers get behind them… just another game in a long list of games where the opponent had as much to do with Denver’s success as Tim Tebow.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
How long does that list get
Before we start to give him more credit?
Although you make good points…
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When he completes more than 8 passes in two games
against the Chiefs?
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Fair enough
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
we have much better secondary than the Steelers ... they sold out to stop the run which left themselves "exposed" in those man-on-man coverages
top that off with the broncos having a MUCH better gameplan overall …
but I agree: give Tebow some credit … and Fox & Co for their playcalling as well
they did what they needed to do, the Steelers didn’t … simple as that (and that OT play was a thing of beauty, it really was the perfect play)
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"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
the throw was pretty awesome for Tebow
and the straight arm and run by the receiver was damn fine… but why doesn’t Ike dive and try to make the tackle? Hindsight, I know, but some 65 yards after the catch with no safety back, that’s all Tebow? Please.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
No one's saying it was all Tebow
But he did play a good game.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
And don't overlook
some of the super wide-open guys that he threw worm-burners to or just flat out missed.
I heard so much about how he’s a “sight passer” and needs to see his guys open before throwing and so on. Even when he saw guys streaming wide open he couldn’t put it where it needed to be.
He completed some nice deep balls to guys in single coverage. Still, he only completed 10 passes, and less than 50%. When you complete 10 passes for over 300 yards – that says more to me about the opposing D than your “skill” at QB.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 10, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
I sure hope so
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
47.3% completion rate for his career so far
He’s got a long way to go before I consider him scary.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 10, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
I think with a lot of hard work
he can make it over 50% next season.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Interim to head coach promotions never work
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Quick, name one interim to head coach promotion that worked
I like RAC but the deck is stacked against him
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Shit the Star had an article on it....
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/03/3351368/hiring-an-nfl-coach-can-be-a-perverse.html
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Well we could have...
not hired RAC. Brought in some other less worthy candidate. Probably lost RAC to be DC for some other team and brought in practically a whole new coaching staff and started back at almost square one on offense on defense.
At least by hiring RAC we maintain some consistency on the side of the ball where we played best.
by DeuceDouglas on Jan 10, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Name the last interim who had previous HC experience....
Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.
Touche
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 10, 2012 2:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Marv Levy?
Wasn’t he an interim coach? I think NFLN had a Top 10 on interim coaches
"If you ever dream of beating me, you better wake up and apologize" - Muhammad Ali
Never say never HIV
Jeff Fisher was interim HC for the Oilers before a solid 15 year run with the team. Didn’t win a SB but I wouldn’t call what he did a failure.
I still don’t know who we would have brought in that would have been head-and-shoulders above Crennel in terms of quality.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 10, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This is bad news for Chiefs fans
The faiders may actually start putting a good team together again. I was afraid good moves might start occurring out in Oakland once Al passed away. I had hoped they would leave Hue “sacrifice anything for now” Jackson in a place of power.
I agree
One of my best friends is a die hard Raiders fan and i always said they would never do anything until Al died, i just didn’t think it would be so soon. They will good here in a few years, they have a good young core of guys, not Chiefs good, but still good. If they could bring in some bright minds and fix their discipline problem then watch out. But they are still the Raiders so they will probably mess something up along the way.
In Pioli We Trust
We say this every time they fire their head coach
“Uh oh – this is bad, they might get someone in there that can turn things around. They’ve got a pretty good core of players and with the right coaching… blah blah blah”
I heard it after Turner, Shell, Kiffin, Cable, and now Jackson.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 10, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
I see your point
but that was with Al running the rest of the show. With Al gone I fear they might actually make smart decisions.
I do worry a bit about McKenzie
He’s been with the Packers in player development and management for the past 15+ years.
I also hear that he’s going to gut that organization and bring in some of his folks from GB to “right the ship”.
Of all of the times we have been concerned with this – this may actually be the time it happens. I have respect for McKenzie – there is a good chance he can get things fixed in Oakland.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 10, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
They fire Hue Jackson after he engineered
“the greatest trade in the history of the NFL?” No way.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 10, 2012 1:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
exactly. he was looking out for hue, and it failed. so he should go. he set back the org for years
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Could this free up
Al Saunders for a possible return and would he consider it?
by bamhvac on Jan 10, 2012 1:09 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Good point
We were pretty good under Al Saunders. Actually that were some of our best years of offense
so is saunders or hue responsible for offense turn around in oakland?
by jcrunninwild on Jan 10, 2012 1:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would guess Saunders.
I seem to recall Al doing wonders with another weak armed QB in K.C. His system actually made him look pretty damn good.
by bamhvac on Jan 10, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
hes also seriously one of the greatest people ive ever been lucky to be around
hes an incredible coach, an incredible person. well respected…he would get it done here in kc again
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
would love this
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
if marty gets the job in tampa i bet saunders goes there if he's available
if marty doesn’t get the job i think saunders comes to kc
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 10, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
do you realize that Saunders is about as old as (if not older than) Bill Muir?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Difference is, he's actually done it. Successfully.
But I’d rather have a younger coach, who is more likely to be around a few years from now. Wouldn’t hate the hire, though.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
i would take saunders i think he got a few years left
hue wouldn’t be bad either
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 10, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Let's take him as a OC
He has a little attitude , but hey maybe that’s what our offense needs . Plus some inside info on the raiders ;)
by chiefsman! on Jan 10, 2012 1:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
we don't need a guy like him on the staff
just listen to the things he says…somethings not right there
I was actually surprised our 98 squad held the record
I remember that was the year of the “Monday Night Meltdown”, but I didn’t know that year was THAT bad.
yeah we were bad going into that game
The meltdown just helped(or made worse) the already bad situation
Ah yes, DT’s “falcon” role that wasn’t going to limit where he played, he was going to be all over the place sacking folks like a mofo. I was excited. I was also in high school and a bit naive ;)
you and me both
That was the season that drove Marty out of KC…and we haven’t had any kind of consistency since.
Funny that this guy wanted input on the GM hire.
The guy was awfully arrogant for a first year head coach on an 8-8 team.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Yeah, that likely didn't help his cause
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
yeah and bashing your players at the end of the season didn't help
a gm doesn’t want a player revolt going on
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 10, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
LONG LIVE THE LEGACY OF CRAZY AL!!!
-Kool Aid drinking Cassel Believer-
(7-9) My record of picking Chiefs games before the season
(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
if i were coach crennel
I would be on top of this real quik i think oakland is tha only team i worry about in this divison and hiring hue would give us insight on how these players work advantages and what have you i bet hue is brought in here soon!
I LOVE MY CHIEFS OH YEAH, B.Flowers is way underrated but they will all be witnesses!!! (sorry lebron)
by kcchiefsfan515 on Jan 10, 2012 1:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think I'd go for Saunders first.
If he’s available. He’s done well everywhere he’s been and he would have total control over the offense. Not sure who else is out there but it’s going to be interesting.
by DeuceDouglas on Jan 10, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Saunders is the best option between the two, he is a proven winner and has a great offensive mind. But in all honesty i wouldn’t mind either. like kcchiefsfan515 said above, any inside knowledge would be key for the Raiders. Over the next decade they will be our toughest competition.
In Pioli We Trust
Yea I'd Agree
Honestly I would go for Either guy. Both are offensive minds, and both have done well. Not to mention as I said before Saunders used to be a Chief and was apart of the chiefs when we were winning sonsistently and had one of the top offenses in the league.
yes. with the talent we have...oh my gosh would jamaal put up insane rushing and recieving stats
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
so we hire Mel Tucker an Hue Jackson as our DC/OC combo
and achieve the blackest coaching staff in the NFL
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
by IPWT2009 on Jan 10, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
LMAO
never looked at it that way. we could make history
i heard gunther was in trouble in detroit
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 10, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
then hire keith armstrong at special teams
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
and Lance Armstrong as trainer on the elliptical machines and ...
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
they were naming black coachess....keith armstrong is a well known special teams coach
i wouldnt hire him, but i was adding to this
lance armstrong would be white
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
different lance armstrong
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 10, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
This could actually be trouble...
Yeah, Hue Jackson had the Raiders heading in the right direction, but with the new GM, I’m REALLY concerned about moves he might make. They have a solid foundation, and with the right hires, they’ll be scary.
Which means we might not be able to rely on the Raiders being the Raiders
in that they always find a way to squander games/division titles/playoff games/ super bowls and might actually be……..good.
they finally have order. the palmer trade showed the chaos within the org, and if this gm just cleans house, he can set up a packers west
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
On another note welcome to Oakland Matt Flynn
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
by IPWT2009 on Jan 10, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
They can have him.
He’s the second coming of Kevin Kolb…of which Az is already thinking about dumping. I’ll take Bush as our second back with JC.
by AZDiamond75 on Jan 10, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
At least Flynn has shown more than Kolb
Yes, Kolb has more starts, but I remember when Kolb was playing for the Eagles, I wasn’t impressed with his him.
by oof46 on Jan 10, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Flynn has played in 2 games
and he won’t be throwing to GB WRs.
Seriously - they're tied up
I mean, I’m all for them blowing more money on a QB – and pissing away all those picks they have wasted on other QBs for what would amount to nothing. But with Palmer and Campbell due to come back – I just don’t see this happening.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 10, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Cool.
Go ahead and sit the guy that cost them a #1 and a #2.
Not to mention the guy who cost them a #3 and the guy who cost them a #4.
All for a guy with a couple good games.
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by Tarkus on Jan 10, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That won't happen. They can't afford him.
Unless they have a trading fire sale.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Art Shell _huskers next raider hc
by Arrowhead25 on Jan 10, 2012 1:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This makes me happy
Because he was actually doing a good job of turning that team around.
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
by LookListenLearn on Jan 10, 2012 1:41 PM CST reply actions
If by turning the team around
You mean taking Cable’s 8-8 team and leading them to another 8-8 record, I agree.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
And setting a record in futility when it came to discipline.
And by trading away their future for an average, turnover prone QB and…well nevermind you get the point.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 10, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
This is Hilarious, I just told a raiders fan the other day. "I give Hue another year at the most"
The raiders organization will just now start to realize the damage this guy has done to there franchise. lol I love it!
"Oh I'm Sorry I Thought This Was AMERICA"
by porkchop_sandwiches on Jan 10, 2012 1:58 PM CST reply actions
Hue Jackson: McKenzie is going to "gut this place"
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Not saying I'm impressed with Oaklands talent, but hopefully the fall out from this is we can cherry pick a few decent players.
"Oh I'm Sorry I Thought This Was AMERICA"
by porkchop_sandwiches on Jan 10, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
smart man that mckenzie, lets hope he puts in a failed attempt at green bay west
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
The Raiders waited until after we announced our new HC.
Think maybe they were worried we’d hire Hue? Just a thought.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Why would that worry them?
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Like I said, just a thought.
Random as it is. Competing organizations tend to prefer not to make trades within their division. Coach swapping would probably be included in that as well.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
as HC? not a chance that ever crossed their minds
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Throughout the years, I always had this feeling that the Raiders were an arrogant team who always thought they were better than they really were
But with the recent changes, I actually think this could be the start of something new.
RG3 has officially declared.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
and with the 4th pick, the cleveland browns select: Robert Griffin III
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Scratch that!! The chiefs have shocked the nation and just traded D Bowe and their 1st and 2nd for the Rams 1st and brandon lloyd
by Jeremy Daniel on Jan 10, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
With the 2nd pick the KC chiefs have selected: RG3
by Jeremy Daniel on Jan 10, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Come on cant i dream a lil bit?? I dont want to see #7 ever agian...
by Jeremy Daniel on Jan 10, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
It's a good thing you're dreaming... cuz he's coming back next year!
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
a comfy ROBE? that's IT?!?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I like your chances better
than the Chiefs drafting RG3.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Jeremy...
That would be a nightmare trade for me. Way too much for a QB that is one hit away from a career ending injury.
by Chiefsdodgerslakers2415 on Jan 10, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
And your telling me that if there is a chance to move up you wouldnt take it? Im not sure how you can rationalize going into next season with #7 under center..
did you see Cam newton play this year? Im determined that if he can do it, RG will do even better. Dude has a arm, intelligence, pocket presence, and is very mobile. If we have to give up Bowe i would, i love him and we would take a step back in the WR dept. but we can then address that by bringing in Colston or Vincent Jackson both who are going to be FA.
by Jeremy Daniel on Jan 10, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
peyton manning is going to be under center
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 10, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
You don't think he'll play any shotgun?
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
he will play shotgun, until we find b. rich replacement
mims or resign gaithers
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 10, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
This doesn't surprise me at all.
I expected this. Hue Jackson was an Al Davis guy. Reggie McKenzie is going to change that entire culture. He is going to put HIS stamp on the team.
5 big moves for Oakland this offseason:
1. Hire Joe Philbin
2. Sign Matt Flynn
3. Trade Carson Palmer
4. Re-sign Michael Bush
5. Trade Darren McFadden
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
i could see this.. I love it all and It is the raiders!
1. A nobody ask any packer coach/fan Mike makes all calls
2. Another Matt Cassel, product of the system
3. Typical Raiders move, lose the drafts pick and player
4. This would be a REAL smart move actually
5. Like 3 typical raider move.
by Jeremy Daniel on Jan 10, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'm ok with all of that.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 10, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
Would be hillarious if they tag Flynn and trade him and old LB to the Raiders for a 2nd round pick
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 10, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
Fail
"I’m going take a stronger hand in this whole team, this whole organization," Jackson said after the Raiders’ season ended with a disappointing 8-8 record.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
apparently you do that as a fan
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Huh?
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
He's saying that apparently Hue means he'll be doing those things as a fan.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Yes, because Hue was just promoted to paying patron
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 10, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
NFL Network reports
that Oakland can cut ties with Palmer after next year with minimal cap impact. Not sure exactly what they mean by “minimal,” but he might not be long for them, either.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
...but maximum draft impact
which is all that matter. Raiders have been flushing cap space down the toilet for decades now. Just ask Javon Walker and DeAngelo Hall.
Stanford Routt would like to speak with you.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 10, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
I'm watching the Oakland presser
Mark Davis has a really, really, really bad haircut.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
From Crypt Keeper to the Good Guy doll
He takes the nickname Chucky away from Gruden.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
by Falcon58 on Jan 10, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Worst. Haircut. Ever.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
definitely Al's Spawn...
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
Charter Member of Chief Fans for Neck Beards...Viva La Orton
simple.
trade your 2012 1st round pick, and 2013’s 2nd for a nobody QB……you’re fired.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
And then say you're going to have even GREATER influence.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Don't be fooled
McKenzie even called the Palmer a trade a “good move”. In any event, it is Mark Davis’ team, not Hue Jackson’s. He makes the final decisions.
Whats he supposed to say?
What a stupid move now I’m stuck with this turnover prone, average QB. Palmer is all he’s got and he has zero options to change that. He’s not going to throw you’re only QB option under the bus.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 10, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Of course he's going to call it a good move.
That means nothing. He has no choice but to spin it as positively as he can.
And Hue acted as pseudo GM for Davis prior to McKenzie being hired.
Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC
Look
Palmer was coming out after 9 months on the couch, and he had some bad games. He also had some really good games, and made throws that Campbell could never make. In that last game against SD, he threw for 400 yards. He was the only one out there doing anything.
most people would hesitate
to give that up for manning, let alone CP. you just dont trade your draft away like that. especially when you have a history of making bonehead personnel moves, which have set your franchise back continually.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
mckenzie is the one who was fooled.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
The Panda's contract is up in a couple days.
no need to fire him
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
Ahhh that makes sense now.
Thank you.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
Good news for you guys. We’re going back to the drawing board again. Please take this division next season away from the Broncos before they rename it the “Jesus Bomb Division”.
Hmmm
AFC West > JBD
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 10, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
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- Detroit Lions DT Nick Fairley arrested again; now has more NFL arrests than NFL sacks
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
