My Mock Offseason 2.0
by JC25FoMVP on Jan 1, 2012 9:59 PM CST
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Team Needs
1. Nose Tackle: We still have yet to find our franchise Nose Tackle who can be the anchor of the front seven. Kelly Gregg has been solid at times, but he is on the wrong side of 30 and there is no hope for progression in his game. Powe should be a solid rotational player, but I still don't feel comfortable with giving him the starting job.
2. Safety Depth: Romeo Crennel tends to have up to 4 safeties getting significant play time on defense during most games and the guys who have been doing so this season have been horrible as a unit. Kendrick Lewis showed flashes of being a great Free Safety, but even he was a liability in coverage from time to time. Jon McGraw has been a serviceable veteran as far as football knowledge and has had a knack for making plays against great QB's over the past few seasons, but he is replaceable. Then you have Rashard Langford, Donald Washington, and Sabby Piscatelli who have all gotten some playtime and their play has been atrocious at best so we definitely need to shore up safety depth.
3. Offensive Tackle: Barry Richardson had an above average season last year with Jamaal Charles but has been subpar at best for the majority of this season. The bright side of this is, Richardson seemed to improve with Kyle Orton under center. Kyle Orton was only sacked once in 3 starts, Richardson didn't have as many penalties, and was more solid in pass protection. But even with that said, I can't trust Richardson so replacing him with a franchise OT to solidify our OL seems like the right move.
4. Offensive Guard: Ryan Lilja had a Pro Bowl season in 2010, and followed it up with a very subpar season. He is a solid zone blocker, but is constantly liability against big front sevens. Taking a look at a bigger OG in the mid rounds of the draft seems like a good idea for now.
5. SILB: Jovan Belcher is far from an elite LB but he is still serviceable on a defense that should be covered in talent in almost every position BUT his. He is young so progression is a probability and he has Derrick Johnson opposite of him to make plays where he can't. Brandon Siler is coming off of IR and he played well as a part-time starter for San Diego so I think any additions overall at this position would be luxury. I just put this one here so I'd have a list of 5 really.
Free Agency
Paul Soliai NT: Top tier nose tackle for the Dolphins over the past few years would be a great addition to the front seven in Kansas City. He will definitely command a big price tag, but lucky for us we have the money and very few other needs.
Re-sign: Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Carr, LeRon McClain, and Kyle Orton
Release: Sabby Piscatelli, Donald Washington, Tyler Palko, and Jerheme Urban
Draft
1. Jonathan Martin RT from Stanford: He'll solidify the Right Tackle position, give Kyle Orton....or Matt Cassel more protection in the pass and make bigger holes for Jamaal Charles, Jackie Battle, and Dexter McCluster in the running game.
2. Bacarri Rambo FS from Georgia: Badass name aside, he is a mentally tough and instinctive safety with the ability to fly around the field. He is only 50-50 for going pro, but he would be able to fill one of the Chiefs' huge needs in the 2nd round if he were to go pro.
3. Lonnie Edwards OG from Texas Tech: Give depth to the Guard spots and maybe challenge Ryan Lilja for a job
4. Tavon Wilson SS from Illinois: Scouting reports on him say he is a raw athlete with great instincts and could develop into a solid safety with good coaching
5. T.J. Graham WR from North Carolina State: Exceptional speed, could become a returner for the Chiefs, and he can add WR depth.
6. London Walker OT from Clemson: OT depth
7. Greg McCoy CB from TCU: 4.3 40 adds speed to the CB position.
2012-13 Depth Chart (*=FA and **=Rookie)
QB: Kyle Orton, Matt Cassel, Ricky Stanzi
FB: LeRon McClain
RB: Jamaal Charles, Jackie Battle, Dexter McCluster
WR1: Dwayne Bowe, Steve Breaston, T.J Graham**
WR2: Jonathan Baldwin, Terrance Copper, Jeremy Horne
LT: Branden Albert, Ryan O'Callaghan
LG: Ryan Lilja, Lonnie Edwards**
RG: Jon Asamoah
RT: Jonathan Martin**, London Walker**
LE: Tyson Jackson, Allen Bailey
NT: Paul Soliai*, Jerrell Powe
RE: Glenn Dorsey, Amon Gordon
LOLB: Justin Houston, Andy Studebaker
SILB: Jovan Belcher, Brandon Siler
MILB: Derrick Johnson, Demorrio Williams
ROLB: Tamba Hali, Cameron Sheffield
LCB: Brandon Flowers, Javier Arenas, Jalil Brown
RCB: Brandon Carr, Travis Daniels, Greg McCoy**
SS: Eric Berry , Tavon Wilson**
FS: Kendrick Lewis, Bacarri Rambo**
K: Ryan Succop
KR: T.J Graham**
PR: Javier Arenas
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Pretty good all around.
I don’t like Soliai much as he’s got work ethic issues, although that could because of any number of things. I’m also not a big fan of ditching McGraw. I think he has value as depth but we definitely need an answer at safety ahead of him. Also TE didn’t make your plan/depth chart but we have a major need there.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
I don't see TE as a major need. Just a constant need. Keep drafting them,
looking for physical blockers with good hands, farther down in the draft because folks don’t like their 40 times. Target of opportunity rather than necessity, in my book.
Watching Miami beat the Jets, today (yesterday), Soliai was a force against an O-Line that pushed Kelly Gregg around. But I’ve heard similar rumblings about Soliai, but more from the football IQ direction than the work ethic angle. Either way, he’s not somebody I’d want to pay the price for, considering the concerns. But if Crennel gets plenty of input, and KC went after him, I bet it would be worth it.
would of ≠ would've
RB FAs are good if you're just looking for a number 2
Cedric Benson, Peyton Hillis, amongst others
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Jan 2, 2012 2:35 AM CST up reply actions
Not impressed with that draft.
2 safeties in the first 4 rounds? No thank you. I would rather have a RB, TE, and/or ILB somewhere in there. I do like soliai though.
Agreed
do not like those safety picks.
Also rather take kellen moore in 4th or 5th round to compete with stanzi and trade/release Cassel
Agreed
I dont like the safety picks either. Id love Kellen Moore in the 5th. and id also love to see terrance ganaway somewhere in that draft. Hes a big back from baylor
Dexter McCluster
We still have Brandon Siler and Tony Moeaki coming off of IR for those two positions
Trust me, I dislike Belcher as much as any other guy on here. Hes an average tackler on his best day, but another great ILB is just a luxury rather than a need. If we get that dominant Nose Tackle to plug up the holes, I’m assuming everyone in the front 7 will improve including the SILB. Also we have Brandon Siler behind him who did a solid job starting in SD part time. Jackie Battle is not a #1 RB, but i think he’s a great #2 back with Dexter McCluster who seems to be grasping the RB position. I take the 2 Safeties because they are NEEDS, TE, ILB, and RB are all luxuries. We have solid guys at all of those positions already. We NEED, someone who can come in a multiple DB set and hold his own without giving up a huge play and we don’t have that right now.
My mock offseason
Send Dorsey, Bowe, our 1st and next years 3rd to St. Louis for the #2 overall pick and grab RG3
I don’t want to get rid of Bowe, but if it can get us a QBOTF, it’s ok. We still have Breaston, Baldwin, Moeaki, Jamaal, and Dex Mex to distrubute the ball…hell bring Brandon Lloyd too.
by craig in calgary on Jan 1, 2012 10:42 PM CST reply actions
Never gonna happen
first off, Bowe will not be under contract so we cant trade him. second, pioli would not trade that much to move up. He prefers to trade down
Dexter McCluster
Bowe can be franchised.
Pioli has traded up before in later rounds, why not now? I don’t think that is too steep if Pioli thinks a QB is the next Manning or Brady. Hmm…trade a guy who may want way too much money with drop problems and a guy who will leave anyway at the end of his contract because he doesn’t fit into our system. Works for me.
Live Adventure!
by MountainManMike on Jan 1, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
And I wouldn’t want him to that is a ton we would be without a legit proven offensive threat who has proved to be healthy. Not calling Charles health risk but frankly he is coming off an injury as is Tony. Baldwin is just going to be a 2nd year guy to much to ask for him to become a #1 or #2 behind someone who should be a #2 in Breaston. Dex is a complete extra but cant be counted on for 16+ weeks to carry an offense through the ups and downs. Plus then we are out a DE and 3rd rounder as well. Also if we trade I’d say more likely he makes the jump to #1 over #2 and grabs Luck which I don’t see happening just my opinion not some inside info or something read.
by SportingIntellect on Jan 1, 2012 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. And we saw, Sunday, how a very TOUGH QB is STILL a QB, when it comes to coughing it up, when he runs.
I wouldn’t be all freaked out about ball security with RGIII, though. I’d want him to use his mobility more to create throwing opportunities and restrict most of the running to the standard scamper up the sideline when the rollout/bootleg doesn’t lead to a completion. RGIII isn’t as big ‘n’ tough as Cam Newton, and even Cam Newton needs to tone it down a little bit, if he wants a long career.
would of ≠ would've
No
his stock is way too high. Some team is going to pay him way too much and give him a long term deal and bring him somewhere that has mediocre recievers (unlike the packers) and he will fail.
Dexter McCluster
Realistically what are our options?
Ya, we can throw out players and picks for Manning or Luck or RGIII or fill in the blank, but this is a very realistic off season checklist.
Ok
I will give it to you that it is realistic, only because I have no faith that Pioli will do what it takes to get this team to the next level.
I strongly disagree
Why would Clark Hunt keep him around if he thought pioli wont take us to the next level. I believe he has had success in turning this team around
Dexter McCluster
Is a 3 year record of 21-27 turned around?
When you factor in his head coaching decision, his free agent pickups, trades, and drafting I don’t see how anyone could think Pioli has done an above average job with this team.
Safety depth is no higher the our 5th biggest need
1-Great Quarterback 2-Tackle 3-Guard 4-DE 5-NT 6-ILB 7-RB 8-safety depth. Taking a FS in the 2nd would be absolutely retarded
by tyson_jackson who? on Jan 2, 2012 12:34 AM CST reply actions
Winning one more 1-on-1 matchup against 10 more teams would be huge for the KC D.
Not sure that S would address that, directly, though, looking at the speed in this year’s crop. I think one more DB with more speed would really help the D scheme they currently run. I think that an elite or near-elite would allow them to run a more aggressive scheme than Crennel is running, currently.
would of ≠ would've
I like it
thanks for writing it up. I have to agree with some other posters and would like to see a power RB to replace Thomas Jones when/if he leaves next year.
I'd love to see an all-around HB who really FITS the ZBS.
One cut and GO. If you guess wrong, at least move the durn pile. Somebody with Jones’s measurables @ 5’10’’ and 212 lbs or bigger (if not necessarily taller). A PUNISHING runner and DEVASTATING blocker.
Heck, I’d be OK with Le’Ron McClain in TJ’s role, if KC acquired someone like Ganaway or Halahuni or Cody Johnson (if he can catch a pass, and I won’t be fooled by watching him without pads at the combine) to block and/or take turns blocking for/with McClain.
I think Pioli likes the ‘tweener H-Back types, for maximum versatility, but I’d like to see a 240 pounder, who is NOT 6’3’’, but more compact. I love the bowling-ball kind of backs, and I’d LOVE to see McClain paired up with somebody HIS size who could block for McClain, and who could run and catch the ball with or without McClain, as well.
would of ≠ would've
The reason I say this is because Battle and Bannon both lack the sheer bulk I'd like to see.
Both are less compact than what I want to see. Neither are as good as lead blockers or receivers, either one, as I want to see, but especially the lead blocker part. McClain is like my ideal RB, who can do it all, but won’t realize his potential as a runner, until somebody finally gets around to pairing him with somebody who blocks as well or better than he does.
would of ≠ would've
I like Polk but he may go too high.
He’s a one cut runner who’s put up very good numbers despite running behind a porous line at washington.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
My Mock right now
1. Luke Kuechly, ILB
How about this in the first!? I’m positive either Orton or Cassel will be our starter at QB this season. I’m also confident Lilja will get another year starting at LG, maybe with Hudson at C Lilja will bounce back. So why no RT? It’s simple, Scott Pioli just doesn’t draft offensive linemen early. So I went with the next biggest hole here. Could you imagine this defense with Kuechly, DJ, and Berry to compliment our CB’s!? My goodness we’d be elite.
2. Alemeda Ta’amu, NT
Continuing to improve our strength here. With Ta’amu, Gordon and Powe we have a dominant NT rotation to compliment a disgustingly talented defense.
3. Zerbie Sanders, RT
Sanders is probably the highest rated “RT only” player in this draft. Contrary to popular belief, Branden Albert is a very good LT, we just need to never see Barry Richardson start again. Sanders has experience in a ZBS and could step in right away next to “Big” Jon Asomoah, who turned in a brilliant season. With a solid O line Charles revitalizes this offense.
4. Winston Guy, S
Solid Safety depth. A guy who can do a little bit of everything and is not afraid to rip off some heads. Hopefully beats out Piscatelli for a roster spot in camp.
5. Philip Lutzenkirchen, TE
A Solid blocking TE to shove Leonard Pope off the squad. Also serves as a good end zone target with size and hands.
6. Jordan Jefferson, QB
A flyer at QB, Pioli has said he wants to draft a QB every year. Jefferson has the right size and potential to be a guy that could develop into something. Probably won’t but that’s what a flyer is all about.
7. BPA
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
As far as FA goes.
Pioli has traditionally taken his RB’s in free agency which is why I didn’t include one in the draft. I’m guessing we take a look at BeJarvus Green-Ellis there. I’m also betting we actually get our OT in free agency.
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
Agree with the FA RB
Green Ellis, Peyton Hillis, Cedric Benson are all available and will be fine as a number 2 RB to replace TJ. But OT FA are very weak. Also replace Jefferson with a OG/C. No Wieggman next season means no we have no back up G/C.
Otherwise pretty solid draft
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Jan 2, 2012 4:42 AM CST up reply actions
NO THERE IS NO WAY WE DRAFT TA'AMU
Did you see Washington’s run defense get shred up this year? 400 plus rushing yards each against Baylor and Stanford
3 Chiefs Wishes:
1. Draft Trent Richardson in the 2012 NFL Draft
2. Sign Dwayne Bowe to a long-term deal
3. Keep Brandon Carr and Leron McClain
by bigbosschief on Jan 2, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
can't do it by himself
everyone around him is terrible. Also a lot of those runs were at the edges, what can the NT do about that?
The only time he truly got shut out was against Stanford and their dominant O line
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
I like your mock off season BUT
I really dont see the need for drafting a safety in the second round the Chiefs have a great safety duo in Lewis and once Berry gets back. I think we still should draft safeties in the later rounds no doubt about that we need much depth at that position. I think we could draft Kevin Zeitler in the second round or maybe even Montee Ball.
3 Chiefs Wishes:
1. Draft Trent Richardson in the 2012 NFL Draft
2. Sign Dwayne Bowe to a long-term deal
3. Keep Brandon Carr and Leron McClain
Im kindve surprised with how many people are unsatisfied with Jackie Battle and McCluster
Jackie Battle is far from a feature back, but he’s still a great change of pace back when Jamaal gets back. We get a coordinator who takes advantage of having LeRon McClain in the backfield and we upgrade the OT position, it’ll be a more power back friendly running game
I don't like drafting a RT with the 12 pick in the draft.
If we go RT you can get a good on in round 2.
1. DE Coples or trade down several spots and get ILB..
2. TE Allen or Fleener
3. OT Adams or Datko,
4. QB Wheeden
5. RB Ganaway
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