Your First Regular Season Kansas City Chiefs Depth Chart
by Joel Thorman on Sep 6, 2011 10:29 AM CDT
in Kansas City Chiefs 2011 Schedule
Email
PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs first regular season depth chart is here. The Chiefs have released four depth charts so far and, with NFL roster cuts coming last week, there are a lot of changes to this depth chart.
One big one is that the Chiefs have finally added Dexter McCluster in as a running back. The Chiefs had publicly confirmed that's the position he'll (mainly) be playing but continued to list him as a receiver in the preseason depth charts.
Here's a summary of the changes to this edition:
WR Steve Breaston ahead of WR Jerheme Urban at No. 2 receiver; C Rodney Hudson added as backup left and right guard; OT Steve Maneri added as backup right tackle; TE Anthony Becht removed (released); RB Dexter McCluster (finally) removed as wide receiver and added as running back; RB Jackie Battle added as backup fullback; DE Amon Gordon added as third string nose tackle; LB Demorrio Williams added as backup LILB; LB Cameron Sheffield added as backup ROLB; S Jon McGraw removed as backup free safety and added as backup strong safety; RB Dexter McCluster added as No. 1 punt returner; CB Donald Washington removed as fourth string kick and punt returner
Check out previous editions of the preseason depth chart: Week 1, Week 2, Week 3 and Week 4.
The latest depth chart is posted after the jump.
WR: Steve Breaston, Jerheme Urban, Jonathan Baldwin
LT: Branden Albert, Jared Gaither
LG: Ryan Lilja, Rodney Hudson
C: Casey Wiegmann, Rodney Hudson
RG: Jon Asamoah, Rodney Hudson
RT: Barry Richardson, Steve Maneri
TE: Leonard Pope, Jake O'Connell
WR: Dwayne Bowe, Terrance Copper, Keary Colbert
QB: Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko, Ricky Stanzi
FB: Le'Ron McClain, Jackie Battle
RB: Thomas Jones, Jamaal Charles, Dexter McCluster, Jackie Battle
DEFENSE
LDE: Tyson Jackson, Allen Bailey, Amon Gordon
NT: Kelly Gregg, Jerrell Powe, Amon Gordon
RDE: Glenn Dorsey, Wallace Gilberry, Brandon Bair
LOLB: Andy Studebaker, Cameron Sheffield, Justin Houston
LILB: Jovan Belcher, Demorrio Williams
RILB: Derrick Johnson, Demorrio Williams, Cory Greenwood
ROLB: Tamba Hali, Cameron Sheffield
LCB: Brandon Flowers, Travis Daniels
RCB: Brandon Carr, Javier Arenas, Jalil Brown
SS: Eric Berry, Jon McGraw, Donald Washington
FS: Kendrick Lewis, Sabby PIscitelli
SPECIAL TEAMS
P: Dustin Colquitt, Ryan Succop
K: Ryan Succop
LS: Thomas Gafford
PR: Dexter McCluster, Steve Breaston, Jerheme Urban
KR: Javier Arenas, Dexter McCluster, Steve Breaston
159 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Let's hope Lewis doesn't get hurt this year
Or we’re going to be subject to a LOT of Jersey Shore.
I'm not Tom Brady. I'm not who Gerald McCoy and the Bucs needed to see.
by Calabaloo on Sep 6, 2011 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't get the lame nick name?
A guy from Flordia who played college ball in the Pac10 gets a Jersey nickname?
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
ohhhhhh now it
…..still sucks lol
How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.
I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!
he dresses as he is one of the members of Jersey shore
…and on a post a week or 2 back someone posted and picture of him with a blow out taking a picture with Pauly D one of the actual cast members…thats why Haley calls him that.
Missouri raised, California Fame.
Berry for President, Flowers can be VP.
by CaliChiefFan on Sep 6, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Because he looks like the strap jobs from the show jersey shore
He has spiky hair and he’s Italian. It’s fitting I guess
S'almost like you took that one personally, HIV.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
You don't get it?
Dude looks like he could be chilling with Snooki and the Situation on weekdays.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 6, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe I'm too old but I have no idea who or what Snooki and the Situation are
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Nope.. Just out of touch with an irrelevant piece of pop culture.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Sep 6, 2011 12:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't worry about it.
One of those pieces of pop culture you kind of wish you could un-know.
The show is mildly humorous based on its own existence.
by bamachief5558 on Sep 6, 2011 1:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, the shit's entertaining -- without question
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
I'm older than you
…and as much as I try not to, I find it impossible not to tune in every Jersday.
I hate myself for it. Watching Jersey Shore is like eating McDonalds, you feel like shit right after it and swear to never do it again, but you keep going back.
by craig in calgary on Sep 6, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Good way to describe it
Plus J-Wow’s body is sick.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
heroin
not mcdonalds heroin. and thank god ive never done either. although part of me wants to……………
Just don't mix the two, ok?
The Filet-o-Heroin, with Morphine Cola and some Opium Fries – biggie sized.
See you next year.
by Ochophosphate on Sep 6, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
cant believe he made the cut.
but i guess there wasnt much choice..
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
Quick edit
Originally had Urban ahead of Breaston but it’s the other way around. Edit has been made.
If I was following this game on my phone
I have a feeling I’d see this quite a bit:
Fred Jackson runs left for 11 yards
by craig in calgary on Sep 6, 2011 10:33 AM CDT reply actions
Wow Houston is even third behin sheff
But i must say i like what i’ve seen from Sheff so far. He just needs the shed the RT a little faster.
How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.
I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!
Official Depth Chart
has Houston as Studebaker’s backup, Sheffield as Hali’s backup
Ride the Wave, Tame the Tiger, Hear Energy Roar!
First team looks good
Just hope everyone stays healthy or doesn’t need rest because our depth is doody.
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 6, 2011 10:35 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I was wondering the same thing.
The guy contains like my dick.
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse"
John Madden 1975 Chiefs-42 Raiders-10
That Left side of the frount seven looks Ugly .... Maybe thay bring Euric Berry over a little more for stiffer run protection
How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.
I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!
Shaun Smith > Bailey and Gordon i guess
How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.
I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!
The offensive line and TE
the depth of the DL with more known quantities/holes in their games is worrisome
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 6, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Our depth is ugly
That is why I figured Pioli would be busy snatching up some released players.
But he is obviously ok with who we have…I’m not so confident.
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
by Matt_Grbac on Sep 6, 2011 10:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He'll pick someone up after the first week of the season
That way the salary is not guaranteed.
Because, well, you know, Clark is cheap!
Just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys.
Or because having a non-guaranteed pay check is great incentive to give 1000%
as opposed to coasting with a guaranteed contract before…..
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Sep 6, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
^ This ^
PICTURE ME SLAPPING THE TOUGHEST GUY YOU KNOW!!!
KCCHIEFSFAN72!!!!
by kcchiefsfan72 on Sep 6, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
^ This ^
PICTURE ME SLAPPING THE TOUGHEST GUY YOU KNOW!!!
KCCHIEFSFAN72!!!!
by kcchiefsfan72 on Sep 6, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
are you kidding me?
I understand there are a couple of concerns… but there’s NO question that this year’s roster is better than last year’s
I do like the numbers of DL
But is that offensive line comforting compared to last years?
Richardson/Maneri?
Weigmann is a warrior yet Hudson is probably not ready yet and is our only option for the backup interior line.
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 6, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
well...
last year… it was O’Call / Richardson… is that REALLY that much better?
I’d also take Weigmann/ Hudson over Weigmann/ Niswanger ANY DAY
I think the DL is at least as good, with the potential to be MUCH better
OLB should be better with Sheff/Houston instead of Vrabel
HUGE upgrades at #2 WR and starting FB
The secondary is essentially unchanged, which is good
I completly agree
Everybody wants to bash the o-line based off preseason. This o-line is younger with more upside. Just wait….. is O’cal even on a team?
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly
the WHOLE OL is younger and has more upside than it has in YEARS
people are down on Richardson right now, because of a rough preseason
but, the regular season is starting, and My guess is that he gets a lot more TE help, just like last season, and he’ll be fine
I just hate the emotions people come with out of preseason
Remember Brandon Carr’s preseason last year? He looked horrible.. and how did that pan out? he had a respectable season.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, me too
always overreactions
Carr had a more than respectable season last year
and, people don’t remember, but Richardson did too… and he didn’t all of a sudden get worse…. he’ll be fine
The point was Maneri is Richardsons backup
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 6, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
And we know nothing about him besides he came new england team that is stacked with talent (o'cal came from there too),
He was released by a houston team that seems to not be the greatest judge of talent, but ialso is pretty stacked on o-line. Then New england thought he was good enough to take back and make the team ( though short lived). He may prove to be a great pick up. We cant judge him has bad either.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
damn typos.. Im a ediot..
trying to do AP at work and work can get difficult..
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
there is a nice link in the morning write-up on Rodney Hudson
it has a link to a scouting report on Maneri
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 6, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
He didn't have to
He was able to hide his weakness by us running every down and by the pure fact we didn’t play anybody any damn good last year
Right. It’s more about the increase in quality of competition than Richardson losing any ability he had before.
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
Exactly
I mean it’s like how we made Cassel into a 2 step drop and throw guy last year thus hidind some of his and the oline’s weaknesses. But to win against great teams you can’t do that
I see where your coming from..
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
the schedule IS tougher
but, the Chiefs STILL have plenty of winable games this year
Denver (twice)
Bills
Lions
Vikings
Dolphins
Raiders
That’s a decent chance for 7 wins, even if they get swept by the “tough” teams… which they WON’T
Ok lets look here at your "winable" games
Ok well Denver kicked our aces up and down the field at Denver last year oh and not to mention they got the best player in the draft debatably…So that could be 2 losses not 2 wins. Buffalo should have beat us last year and that was with a crazy run game by us. That’s a loss specially with a hurt Cassel or no Cassel. The Lions have small lineman like Weigman and Lilja for dinner not to mention if Stafford is healthy they will destroy our pass defense with Calvin Johnson. That’s a loss no doubt. The Vikings still have AP and still have a pretty good dfense but i’ll call it a win for our Chiefs. The Dolphins…well i’ll call it a coin flip game since neither team has top tier talent. The Infamour Raiders….well fool me once shame on me fool me twice shame on you. They fooled us twice last year into thinking they sucked but yet dominated us physcially in both games so yeah chalk up atleast one more loss there
I feel it was pretty apparent
When I was being sarcastic. But truthfully most of what I said is fact
Us losing to Buffalo is a fact?
Can I quote you on that?
I'm not Tom Brady. I'm not who Gerald McCoy and the Bucs needed to see.
Well considering Haley
Called a lucky timeout right when the kicker made the field goal to win it. It really should have been a loss. Im glad we won don’t get me wrong but it was luck
Much more went into the game
than just that kick. I’m not talking about that game. You said with a hurt Cassel or no Cassel that’s a loss. Are you saying we’re going to lose to them this week?
That’s what it sounds like. And to say that definitively is absurd.
I'm not Tom Brady. I'm not who Gerald McCoy and the Bucs needed to see.
We beat the steelers 2 years ago.. pretty much their the same.
You cant go off last year.. just his opionion based off what he thinks. Its a new year.. good teams will go backwards and bad teams will get better… you guys can debate this all day.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
The Chiefs don't have top tier talent?
That statement lies in the realm of absurdity, considering we have the AFC sack leader, one of the league’s top backs, a WR that put up the most TDs in the league, a top 5 DB TANDEM, a pro-bowl caliber ILB (finally), and a safety that made the pro-bowl behind arguably the two best in the league.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
Ok we have Dfense
But like many older people such as my dad I believe games are won and loss in the trenches and we just don’t have superior talent in either. I believe in Jackson more than anyone on this site if you don’t believe me go way back and read the article I wrote on him. Dorsey is a stud but face it neither are Seymore and as of now we don’t have a Vince Wilfork or BJ Raji. On offense we just don’t have one guy I feel is a STUD I mean If Gaither is healthy and we for some reason move Albert to gaurd then i’ll change my mind… Yes I know this isn’t madden but Albert is a gaurd at heart and his physical make up is that of a gaurd. But Lilja may be our best olineman right now but that’s like being the fastest guy in the wheelchair olympics.
Getting more and more weapons on offense too
WR corps is of the top half of the league, I’d say. And the backfield?
Defensively we’ve been ok in the trenches, and I’d say we’re looking as good if not better there than last season. Gregg is an upgrade, and TJ MAY be a push in the base defense, but our sub packages are looking like a real strength.
Now, the OLine.. may take them a handful of games to get it, but it’ll correct itself… eventually.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
Wr's are better but not top 5
Not without Baldwinning that’s for sure. I Agree Greg is an upgrade specially with Powe instead of well nobody behind him
I'll take top half of the league with Baldwin out
Definitely should produce more than season’s crop.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
I was thinking the same..
Pretty damn talented.. just not as deep. I bet money those top tier teams are scared as shit playing us…
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You really think
Tom Brady see’s us a threat other than to his knee? He would laugh at you if he saw that. We are a team still rebuilding we aren’t even close to the level of these teams. I would just throw to the man that Belcher is covering every down or Mcgraw if he’s out there
Seriously
that makes us more scary.. you don’t know what your gonna get. Would you like to be the coach wondering how to contain a Charles, Bowe, Mccluster, and now a Breaston to take heat off Bowe? I Dont think we are a top notch team by any means but if I was a blogger on New englands site the KC game would scare me.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
If im NE im not worried about our run game they have WIlfork and Albert to destroy our interior lineman not to mention 2 damn good ILBs. We won’t be able to throw the ball with the pass blocking i’ve seen. So far i’ve seen miscommunication and just flat out getting beat
Ill be looking for you that night on here...
But I think we push new England in a close game. Cold night and a good running game.. helps us out.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes but we also have potential to
Absolutly fail…. Lilja has had injuries alot and no there is no denying it. Asamoah is a 2nd round Rookie!!!! Not Nick Mangold. Casey is older than father time and showed he can’t deal with strong interior Dlineman. Guess what? We have more if those on our schedule than i’ve ever seen. Richardson…well talking about how poor his play has been is like pistol whipping a blind kid it’s just too easy… Albert well he’s our best lineman hands down he plays hurt he run blocks and he’s played out of position his whole NFL career… So yes we have potential to be great but we also have alot of potential to be a 2 win team with this schedule and poor line play
really, a 2 win team?
thank you for illustrating my point on overreaction
by stagdsp on Sep 6, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm
I seem to recall us being a 3 win team not to long ago…. We have a lot of question marks and if these injuries keep up or Cassel gets even more hurt because we have terrible pass blocking we have to play Palko. Can Palko win games? What if JC gets hurt I mean he has shown to be injury prone even if he has avoided anything major… We don’t have enough talent or depth to be able to win without a few key guys. Wanna know why NE is so good cause even when Tom Brady goes down in week 1 they have a good enough team to put in a guy who at the time hadn’t started a game since high school and still win alot of games
of course, Arrowhead could collapse during a game, killing thousands
bad things CAN happen, some probably will (like Moeaki going on IR, and Baldwin hurting his wrist)
BUT, this team has progressed a TON since the 2008/2009 seasons, and have been doing it the RIGHT way, building through the draft.
I think the chances of this team being positioned for success year-in-year-out are MUCH greater than it falling apart because of an injury or two.
Well how about injuries aside
How good is Asamoah? Is Casey still able to play every snap? If not How good is Hudson? Do we have a RT worth starting against the likes of NE and GB? Name one team on our schedule we should beat easily? If you day OAK or BUF or DEN look what happen last year. We may have gotten better but you can only rely on rookies and luck so much. Last year we had a top 5 pick in Eric Berry so he should have been damn good but our first drafted hat will even play in week 1 is Powe or Houston that’s a 6th and a 3rd round pick. So how did we build in this draft again? we lost more than we gained we lost 4 starters basically and one of which was a pro bowler and we gained 0 starters from our draft
We gained depth from the draft
and we picked up free agent starters. Plus the rookies we counted on are only gonna get better with a year under their belt. Houston is depth, Shef is depth(which we didnt have last year. I say we are in a better situation.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Future wise
Yes we are but im talking this year…. Houston is going to be a stud and so will Powe. But this year they are rookies with little prep time
isnt that building through the draft..?
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes but it's
Not helping us this year very much. I’m strickly talking about this season and it’s depth chart. I mean yes we have built through the draft for the future. But im saying we don’t have another Eric Berry or even a Kendrick Lewis who can come in and start
I really think we are a better team
Could be that I’m a homer.. but thats my opinion..
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree we are better
And if we had the same schedule as last year we would win more games no doubt but we don’t so I see problems
I respect that..
I just think a few of the elite teams are more beatable than some think. I’m not scared of the Jets, Steelers, Bears, or Colts.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
We "lost" 3 starters.
Waters. Vrabel and Chambers. Two of which shouldn’t be in the NFL anymore(and one of them isnt). Moeaki would’ve been a starter but wasn’t one last year and injuries happen, its part of the game.And giving Waters the Pro Bowl nod when Lilja was clearly our best OL last year was a joke. I think you have to be pretty short sighted to think that the team we field this year isn’t better then last year.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 6, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Well not even including Chambers
Since he never played!!! We lost Edwards Smith(who started a lot) Vrabel and Waters. Waters was still pretty good last year so don’t act like throwing a rookie in to replace him isn’t a big deal. And don’t act like our team was just dominate last year. Name a game other than the 49ers that we looked like we had more talent than the other teams… We may be SLIGHTLY better than last year but our schedule is atleast 3 times harder even with our piss poor division
Edwards only started because Jackson was injured so thats a stretch.
Edwards was replaced by a better player and a more suitable player in his spot, Vrabel is done like dinner but his void is better once the younger guys step in and fill the role and Stude is relegated back to sub packages.
I could name 1/2 dozen games where we looked like we had more talent then the other team including in a couple of loses. The schedule isn’t all that difficult as it may seem and even if we go with the premise that it is, with the Colts missing Manning we probably have the 3rd hardest schedule in the division now.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 6, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I know you mean Smith lol
But he still played alot either way. Yes Vrabel was done BUT is Studebaker that much of an upgrade? Will he pump up the players around him? All im saying is just look at it for a second and ask if we really are better.
Vrabel wasn't pumping up shit last year
If anything he was probably pissing people off. It’s not always good having a Vet you know you can beat out yelling down your throat without any production to back it up.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
jacksonville
Who was a pretty good team last year
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Really.. 42-20
Chumps huh?
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
HE GOT OFF HIS COUCH
5 mins before the game the fact that they scored 20 is SICKENING. Our offense had a good game that has nothing to do with what I said. We beat a team that wasn’t that good to start with and they’re best QB was hurt not impressive to me. Not to mention MJD played hurt all season
Really his numbers weren't that great..
18/ 34
222 Yards
52.9 completion %
6.53 average
29 Long pass
2 TD
2 INT
68.5 QB rating
They played from behind most of the game.. so his yards look better for that.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
How about every team in the NFC West?
Add Tennessee to that too. I know what you’re going to say: “They were weak teams”. Which they were. But that is still detracting from your original argument that they couldn’t dominate against anybody other than the 49ers.
judging by some people's reaction bad things ONLY happen to the Chiefs
Breathe people, we have a good team and at worst will at LEAST be competive
by CHIEFFAN82 on Sep 6, 2011 12:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Jackson looks damn good to me
Now No Big hit Belcher plus not so Studly Studebaker trying to fill holes doesn’t
I'd like to see Olshansky brought in.
To rotate with Dorsey and Jackson. I don’t think Bailey is ready, Gilberry is still best suited for third down duty, Bair should be on the PS and Gordon is trash.
5 safeties is a little overkill and I’d like a little more interior o-line depth.
I agree with only one thing that you said
and that’d be remedied by cutting Sabby for an OG
Bailey is a freak, and will do well in limited opportunities this year… Gilberry will see an expanded role, and Bair/Gordon are unlikely to see the field
I like Bailey long-term, but I'm tempering my expectations for this year.
I’ll withhold judgement on Gilberry until I see how he plays with this added weight.
Bold statement about Allen Bailey
considering he appears to be the poor man’s Vernon Gholston.
by bamachief5558 on Sep 6, 2011 1:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
haha, there is NO poorer version of Gholston
Bailey has already shown more in his NFL career than Gholston
Ha, I completely missed the part where Richardson is still starting.
I just figured it was so obvious that Gaither is a superior OT over Richardson, I completely missed it. Unbelievable. Any takers that Richardson gives up the sack that keeps Cassel from playing the entire game??
I don't know if there is anyone saying he won't give up the sack
there should just be a pool on when it will happen. Who’s closest without going over.
I say within 3min of the 2nd quarter.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
First 3rd down
That is over 2 yards….Ok so 3 plays into the game cause we will go FB run then TJ run and have 3rd and 5.
Oh you mean he's playing RT on pass plays?
I figured it was some wort of Chiefs handicap that we only got 4 OLineman on passing plays since our run game was so superior. I mean I didn’t even notice we had a RT the blits was to Cassel so fast I just figured nobod was out there to block from the RT position.
Ok thanks
I had seen anything on him in a long time. We need him to be healthy specially with how bad our passing game has looked
Very important player not mentioned for game 1
The Chiefs Home Crowd
Home opener, a beautiful (projected) 80 degrees and sunny. I anticipate a packed house of riled up fans. I don’t care who you are this is a tough place to play. Their offense takes a ding for this factor alone.
Did not realize the Cardinal dropped Quan Sturdivant
He would be a great addition to our LB’s
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
And the Rams dropped Donnie Avery
Come on Pioli…do you need me to come help you do your job
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
Looking over these cut list from the past couple days
So many guys we should have went after. Mainly just for depth.
Quan Sturdivant, Donnie Avery, Justin Gage, Desmond Clark, Igor Oshanski….just to name a few
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
Cage has the drops..
But Clark is interesting
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Gage is one of those enigmas
I swear he reminds me of Bowe sometimes – the easiest catch in the world will clank off of his mitts and then several plays later he pulls in the most insane, uncatchable pass while contorting his body and barely snagging it with his finger-tips.
Not as a number 1, but I don’t mind the idea of Gage as a #2. He might be too slow though – not enough to differentiate him from Bowe.
by Ochophosphate on Sep 6, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
See what happens after week one.
That way contracts aren’t guaranteed.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 6, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
True
But we have plenty of money to make sure we get some proven depth right now.
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
I'd be willing to bet that we do have a fly over
It’s the 10th anniversary of 9/11. I foresee a stealth bomber making its way to Arrowhead.
same as last year.
jones, then charles. lol whatever…
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
Its a good thing that Berry and Flowers typically line up on the left or this could get ugly real fast in run defense.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
really I think Jackson and stude
are an upgrade to last year.. since Jackson didnt play all season.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Jackson is an upgrade over himself because he has improved.
There’s no way that Stude is an upgrade over Vrabel in the run game though and that’s saying something because Vrabel wasn’t that great. Vrabel could at least shed blockers and funnel plays back to our more athletic players to make plays. Stude gets stood up and eaten alive by TEs let alone the RT.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 6, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Stude can be coached...
He also is better than Vrabel at dropping back.. I think you are making a judgement on him to fast… He lined up very vanilla in preseason.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the ships sailed on the "Stude can be coached" idea.
He’s been getting coached for a couple of years by coaches and by the guy he’s replacing and he’s shown very little progress in defending the run. He’s just not strong enough at the point of attack. My judgement isn’t too fast either we’ve watched him for awhile and he just doesn’t seem to be making progress anywhere. I’m not a hater either because Stude is one of my favorite players and a guy that’s easy to cheer for. I just don’t think he’s built for that position.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 6, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I dont think your a hater.. sorry man
I like your anaylsis better than most on here.. I just want to know how your making the judgement? He was mainly in third down packages where he had to drop into coverage…
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree he's good at dropping into coverage and eons better at getting to the QB then Vrabel.
But those are his strengths and they can be used in sub packages. Another thing I’ve noticed, at least in the preseason, is the additional snaps he’s getting on early downs are wearing him out and he’s not even doing the things we know he can do well anymore. The faster Sheffield or Houston step up and claim that spot the better for the defense as a whole.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 6, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I do like the competetion..
Just think preseason play calling was to vanilla to judge Stude… I could be being a complete homer though :)
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll see when the season starts.
I hope I’m wrong because I’m the kind of guy that loves a dominant defense over a great offense anyday.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 6, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I as well.. I love dominate defense followed by a strong run/ play action offense..
Which i think we are building the right way.
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Houston will have that spot on lockdown for the next 10 years
by week 7 or 8 if not sooner. Studie has great “intangiables” but Houston has outplayed him in every facet of the game so far, and it’s not even close really. Studie has “done everything the coaches ask of him” and all the other cliches attached to guys with a likeable personality & marginal talent. Houston is simply a better player, vs the pass AND the run.
Studebaker is getting rewarded for his hard work & dedication with a new contract & a starting position right now, but Houston will end up getting 75% of the snaps @ that position & Studebaker will become expendable sooner rather than later.
and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!
Stude can be coached..
He also is better than Vrabel at dropping back.. I think you are making a judgement on him to fast… He lined up very vanilla in preseason.
WHEW!!!!!!!
Last season
Vrabel had 48 tackles 0 sacks 0 int and only 1 pass deflection
Stude had 28 tackles 3 sacks in a backup role
Stude has to be an improvement
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
Vrabel was used almost exclusively on early downs/run situations.
Stats really dont tell the story when it comes to the SOLB.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 6, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen
There is no stat for “gets dominated by TEs against the run”
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I don't care if he's an improvement over Vrabel, frankly
I care that he’s the 2nd best player at his position and is devastatingly weak against the run.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Why isn't gaither starting over Richardson.
Kinda pathetic to me. Maybe I’m over reacting
by Tyler7 on Sep 6, 2011 12:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
could be he needs to be healthier
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Eric Berry
He seems to be the guy that you just say yeah that is Eric Berry he is set….but I looked at his rookie stats again and it still baffles me that we have a safety of his caliber on our team….
92 tackles 2 sacks 4ints 1 pick 6 and 9 pass deflections
Those are some amazing rookie numbers….
Eric Berry is only getting better too!
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
Yeah man, he's a monster.
I’d take him over any safety in the league.
by bamachief5558 on Sep 6, 2011 1:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
C'mon Mr. Allen Bailey
TAKE that spot from Tyson “La Toya” Jackson!!
There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.
LaToya?? Really??
I would have taken him for more of a Rebbie type
by His Royal Greatness on Sep 6, 2011 12:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We need Joe Jackson on the DL
Someone to slap those kids around on the other team.
As a self-described "Gentleman of the Suburbs," the Gentry enjoys wearing tight fitting waistcoats, checking his pocketwatch frequently, and reading AP over a cup of tea. No homo.
I lke the depth...
What happens when TonyMo comes back, Amon Gordon goes bye bye?
And is Steve Maneri going to be Jason Dunn 2.0 as a T/TE?
Tony won't be back this year... :(
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 6, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome, we're playing two players who are glaring weaknesses
With obvious upgrades sitting on the bench.
Yay!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Arrowhead Pride
Related FanShots on Arrowhead Pride
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
SBNation.com Recent Stories
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Detroit Lions DT Nick Fairley arrested again; now has more NFL arrests than NFL sacks
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
