The Kansas City Chief’s And Tyson Jackson: Pick or Pass?

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by worc on Sep 27, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

using firefox now

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good writeup bewsaf!

by worc on Sep 27, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions

You could probably attribute the Packers success...

with that draft. While everyone got squat from that class they fixed their front 7 with Matthews and Raji. I honestly thought at the time it should have been Raji or Jackson. I opted for Jackson because of Raji’s off the field problems and it looks like I was as wrong as Pioli.

by Crown Chief on Sep 27, 2011 1:30 PM CDT reply actions

good writeup, rec'd

I do think Jackson is improving, and is a solid (not spectacular) piece of the defense here… which is EXACTLY what KC expected and wanted from him.

I didn’t like the pick at the time… but I’m reasonably happy with it at this point.

by stagdsp on Sep 27, 2011 1:43 PM CDT reply actions

Tired excuse

There were plenty of good players picked in 2009.

Who cares who the flavor of the month was with Curry and Crabtree. A GM that gets paid millions of dollars should know better and not be subject to that (though I know, they always are).

We certainly could have used Raji. Orakpo opposite Hali could have changed the course of our defense. Cushing and Matthews have been forces for our team.

“OH YOU COULDN’T TAKE THEM! THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN HUGE REACHES!”

Well Tyson freaking Jackson was an enormous reach in himself, so I don’t want to hear about reaches. At least the above players have contributed to their team instead of taking the spot of a superior player (Shawn Smith) out of town.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 27, 2011 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

*for THEIR team

by ChiefDJ on Sep 27, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Orakpo made no sense

We were going to try Hali at WOLB no matter what, that’s the position Orakpo plays. We got Vrabel in the trade for SOLB, which was needed.

Cushing along with Bloodline were HUGE question marks, it’s dumb to look back at the player and say ‘oh well HE would have helped, or I KNEW he would be this good, etc’ just like the Pats picking Brady.. It’s not that he would have been the same player on any team. He went to the right spot at the right time and made the most of it.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 27, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions

The point is

There were good players in the draft.

People who want to defend the Tyson Jackson pick want to make it sound like it didn’t matter who we picked, it was doomed for failure because there was just no one in the draft that was any good.

Simply not the truth.

Pioli had a horrible draft history in N.E. and it has continued in K.C.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 27, 2011 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Horrible draft history huh

Ok… Not everyone hits 100% of the time ya know that right?

The point is hindsight is 20/20 for a reason. DE was a huge need, and we took the best guy for that need. The fact is that the ‘09 class sucked and even most APers were wanting Curry even when he wasn’t a great fit.. look how that turned out…

Besides the ‘09 class(which Pioli was late to get the job, scouted for NE all year, threw out KC’s scouts, switching schemes, etc) the last 2 seem to be great. Not seeing this ‘horrible draft history’

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 27, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Hard to have a great draft history...

when your team is busy winning Super Bowl after Super Bowl. Realize that any rookie drafted would be going up against a SB caliber player for playing time. When the player is at the bottom of each round, he is most likely not as good as players above him and then has to go in and compete with someone who just won a SB. That makes finding impact players that much tougher.

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by MountainManMike on Sep 28, 2011 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions