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Week 3 Andrew Luck / #1 Pick overall sweepstakes odds

Week 2 odds can be found here.

 

As stated in last week's edition, this is not about wanting the Chiefs to lose. This is an honest appraisal of the 32 teams in the NFL and their odds on selecting Andrew Luck number one overall or of having the number 1 pick in next year's NFL draft. This is a simple matter of looking at the product on the field and projecting that same play against the team's remaining schedule. When/if the Chiefs play on the field take them out of the running for this dubious award, the weekly updates will stop. Till then, take it for what it's worth.

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NOTE: 4 wins will be deemed to many. Teams that are 4-x will not receive odds

The Front Runners

KC- 5/1 (0-3):   The defense showed vast improvement over week 1 and 2. The offense actually managed to regress somehow. The difficulty of their schedule keeps them the odds on favorite for the second week in a row. Last week's odds: 5/1-no change

Indy- 5/2 (0-3): Much like KC, Indy actually played a superior team with heart and took them to the wire. Painter came in for the injured Kerry Collins and looked horrible for a bit and respectable for a bit. With Irsay reporting that Manning is done for the season the Colts are the big movers upwards (or down if you'd rather) in the reverse power rankings.  Last week's odds: 10/1-up three positions from the 5th most likely team to the second

Den- 6/1 (1-2):  Denver managed to lose to a Titans team that lost Kenny Britt early in the game and couldn't get Chris Johnson going. The Broncos actually had the lead with 4:24 left in the 4th. As I told J-man last week, never lose faith in the ability of the Broncos to suck.  Last week's odds: 6/1-no change

StL- 7/1 (0-3): Last week St Louis wasn't in our front runners because we limited the "top" teams to those in the hunt for Luck. The Rams would most likely not draft the Stanford phenom, but if they get the 1st pick the line of suitors would be long. The Julio Jones trade from 2011 would probably be the starting spot for negotiations. Playing in the NFC West will help this Rams team win some games, but at 0-3, you get on this list. Last week's odds: no line

Miami- 8/1 (0-3):   Last week's loss against Cleveland was the kind that deflates a team and could cause a team to start to under-perform. This year's draft pick Daniel Thomas started to run the rock effectively and the passing game was good enough to win. I still believe they have more weapons than any of the teams ahead of them on this list, but 0-3 is 0-3. You get a bump. Last week's odds: 12/1-remains 5th most likely on the list

Minn- 9/1 (0-3): This is a hard team to figure out. They took Detriot and Tampa to the wire and managed to blow it. They held the vaunted Detroit defense to a stand still till Pettigrew, Megatron and Stafford went nuts. They have talent, especially on the defensive side. Next week's game between KC and Minny will help to define both teams, and who will be king of these odds. It is unclear if Minny would actually draft Luck with Ponder sitting in the background, but either way they are an 0-3 team in the running for the top selection in 2012. Last week's odds: no line

SEA- 10/1 (1-2): Rice comes back and they play at home. That always helps. Fully expect the Seahawks to be horrendous on the road, but feast on weak NFC West teams when they come to Seattle. Last week's odds: 5/2- dropped from 2nd to 6

Teams moving out of the front runner list due to wins or the suckatude of others: San Fran, Cleveland, Washington

The rest of the league after the jump

Star-divide

Teams who showed life/enough football like substance to not be considered a favorite at this time. No current odds. No particular order

SF (2-1): They may run away with the NFC West, though they would probably jump on Luck like a fat girl on a bunt cake if given the chance. And when I say "run away" remember that this is relative.

ARI (1-2): Maybe I should just put odds on the NFC West...Kolb and Fitzgerald should keep this from happening

Jax (1-2): Rookie QB, WR issues, bad defense. They have all the lack of pieces that you like to see in a first pick overall,  but they still play Indy twice and  have MJD. Should be enough to keep them in the late top 10

Car (1-2): Well, they beat Jax, but that defense is banged up worse than KC's. They are on the hairy edge of jumping into the first group. But Cam has me believing they will win just enough games...

Cincy (1-2): Dalton to Green is going to be fierce for years to come. But a win puts you in this group unless you play in Seattle.

Cle (2-1):  They sure are spunky. Don't know if they belong here, but a decade of Browns football justifies it.

Chi/Atl/Phi (1-2): None of these teams belong here, but you are what your record is. 1-2 gets you an honorable mention. If I had to guess which team is most likely to hang around here, it would be Chicago. Dallas could land here with a loss tonight as well.

Wash (2-0): Make it 3-0 and I'll eat crow, but I want to see it.

Teams who would have to totally fall apart in the most spectacular way EVER to reach any higher on this list, no particular order:

NYG (2-1)

Det (3-0)

GB (3-0)

TB (2-1)

NO (2-1)

BUF (3-0) Look for Jesus coming from the sky. This may be the sign of the Apocolypse (Hark, and the angel broke the 6th seal, and the great cow and lion came from beneath the earth to claim dominion over the land)

NE (2-1) HOW BOUT THEM BILLS!!!!

NYJ (2-1)

Balt (2-1)

Pitt (2-1)

Hou (2-1)

Tenn (2-1)

Oak (2-1) Sums of beaches

SD (2-1) Middle finger to you sir

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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YEAH! WE'RE #1! WOOT!

We just went an entire half without a single first down. Yes, I know… unbelievable. And later on ran Thomas Jones on 3rd & 11… immediately AFTER he had got the carry on 2nd & 10 and lost a yard.

Not that I necessarily want to see the Chiefs lose… but the Chiefs are easily the worst team in the NFL, with one of the toughest schedules. Andrew Luck will be a nice consolation prize for this crap.

by Tomahawk29 on Sep 26, 2011 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

We're #1, We're #1

wait a tic…

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of the 08 playoffs

VS Colts when we didn’t have a first down till half way thru the third quarter.

Who Wins Egomania this year, Egoli or Big Head Todd?

by Chiefsfanindonkeyland on Sep 26, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only worse, cause it was in week 3 as opposed to, you know, the playoffs

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really

considering we back into the 08 playoffs, needing three teams to lose, witch they did. Probably the worst play off berth in recent history. I think the total offensive yards were about the same in that Game too.

Who Wins Egomania this year, Egoli or Big Head Todd?

by Chiefsfanindonkeyland on Sep 26, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

So upset that

A.) Dolphins blew that game
B.) Broncos didn’t beat the Titans

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier

by SwimCoach on Sep 26, 2011 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't forget Indy giving up a late FG to fall to Pitt

That would have been sweet on several levels

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn good finish to the game though.

Polamalu reminded me why he’s my favorite non-Chief in the NFL. The man is part animal.

by Tomahawk29 on Sep 26, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I forgot about that too. Watched that whole game cheering for Indy but it makes me feel like they are good enough to win some games this year.

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier

by SwimCoach on Sep 26, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we are too, against average teams

And if KC keeps fighting they may sneak up on a team they have no business beating. If they do continue losing I hope to god KC looks like Buffalo last year. The Bills couldn’t win, but they couldn’t spell quit either.

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. Chiefs can beat MIN, IND, DEN, MIA...

But I wouldn’t put money on any game this year.

I’m thinking 3-13 will likely garner the first pick.

by Tomahawk29 on Sep 26, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, 4 wins will be one too many

3 might be too many, but it’s a long season.

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think a team will have to go

2-14. I could be wrong… but I think to get the #1, we would have to go 2-14

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier

by SwimCoach on Sep 26, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

1-15

is the record i think we need to have to get the first pick.

by andrew33 on Sep 26, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

0-16 would almost guarantee it.

Unless there’s more than one 0-16…. yikes… stiff competition.

Preparing to welcome a future Chiefs fan in December... football season and fatherhood somehow go together.

by Falcon58 on Sep 27, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't Miami at 6/3 (which is 2/1) be your odds on favorite?

Not saying they suck worse than us, just that 2/1 is better odds than 5/1… so is Indy at 5/2, StL at 6/2 (3/1) and Minn at 7/2. Seattle at 10/2 (5/1) is actually tied with us at 5th by your odds.

My odds-on favorite would probably be a three way tie with Seattle, Miami, and the Chiefs all at about 5/2 and then StL and Indy not far behind. I think Denver and Minn will win their way out of the top 5.

sooner or later, God'll cut you down...

by nmchief on Sep 26, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Alot will get decided on this front the next two weeks

If the Chiefs lose to Minn and Indy, it may well be in reach for us to get Luck…

sooner or later, God'll cut you down...

by nmchief on Sep 26, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

for sure...

if Flowers is out too, oh man. Especially for the Minn and Indy game.

Now the Broncos play the Packers coming up. I think the Broncos could fall into suck for luck for sure and you know that Elway would be drolling over that pick.

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier

by SwimCoach on Sep 26, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Losing Flowers for the Minny game wouldn't as be as nasty as not having him for Indy

We’ll miss his tackling on the back-end when Peterson starts romping in the back field, but Carr can cover Harvin. And that’s about the complete extent of the Minnesota WR corp

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Corrected, just straight up odds, with the exception of Indy and KC

They are “neck and neck” for falling in a hole.

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luck runs through KC

With games against Minn, Indy and Miami, we determine the fate of Andrew Luck.

by excidium on Sep 26, 2011 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

That hurts to see in print

But you’re right

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

What if we go 0-16

And luck stays for his senior year?

Or what if Cassel turns it around?

Or what if Stanzi gets a chance, and starts putting up wins?

What if…well, what if?

by cpa913 on Sep 26, 2011 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Luck is in his senior year

And if any of those other things happen, we move down in the odds. It’s all about watching as many games as I can and saying, “If KC played like they did against Buffalo, Detroit and SD, would they win?”

So far, with the exception of possibly Indy, Seattle, StL and Denver I’d have to answer “NO”

Minnesota and Miami have looked good enough to romp on the Chiefs. They can always turn it around, but I want to see it before they get “worse” odds for the 1st pick.

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought he was a Redshirt Junior

Meaning he is a Senior, but has one more year of eligiblity

by cpa913 on Sep 26, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn, you are correct

All three top QB prospects: Luck, Barkley and Landry are juniors. Well, it is what it is. And the odds remain the same.

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kellen Moore... I like him too.

He’s definitely coming out this draft. I actually like him more than Barkley or Jones.

by Tomahawk29 on Sep 26, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He would be my #2 QB for sure

if we couldn’t get Luck, I wouldn’t mind getting Moore

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier

by SwimCoach on Sep 26, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Moore, but he is a bit undersized at 6-0, 195

Not saying he can’t be great, but it’s a factor

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is so dang accurate though

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier

by SwimCoach on Sep 26, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be a nice change of pace

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Size is a little concerning, not really your prototype NFL QB...

But hey, Brees is about the same size.

Moore would definitely be my runner up if Luck isn’t available.

by Tomahawk29 on Sep 26, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or what if Stanzi gets a chance, and starts putting up wins?

Then we take the BBPA (Best Beefy Player Available, OL or DL) and go to town on the NFL next year when 3 of our most crucial players come back from injuries.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Sep 26, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like that plan

Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.

by mushin on Sep 26, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Stanzi coming out of the draft last year

but Luck is on a different level

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier

by SwimCoach on Sep 26, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not yet he's not

And remember the question was if Stanzi comes in and starts “putting up wins,” what do we do?

I took that to mean he’s winning us games with his play. If he’s doing that as a rook, without his best offensive player out there, and with a defense that’s lost its best overall player, what do we need a QB for?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Sep 26, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

mnchiefsfan

4 and 12 and picking 6th in the draft only to take a jared krick and trying to make him a 3-4 end now thats a truly disatrous season can’t wait to get my tickets

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Sep 26, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah that krick guy doesn't belong on a 3-4 defense

There is a guy uh.. Crick a ’Husker.. does project well to a 3-4 DE

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 27, 2011 5:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then it's win-win.

We’ll have a QB that can win for us.

by Tomahawk29 on Sep 26, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Off topic, but have you guys seen this new thing available through Face Book called "Spotify"?

It’s like “Pandora Radio”, only it let’s you search for bands and albums you want to listen to and actually pick the songs you want to listen to at the moment. And you can pause/rewind too. It’s in format similar to Windows Media or iTunes.

Go to your FB page, and on the left side click on “music” then on the right side you should see an ad labeled “Spotify” and a link for “start listening now”. You’ll have to download the program, but it’s solid. You register and login through your FB account.

Definitely worth checking out.

by Tomahawk29 on Sep 26, 2011 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah... I saw that this weekend

Good stuff.

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier

by SwimCoach on Sep 26, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec for this
Hark, and the angel broke the 6th seal, and the great cow and lion came from beneath the earth to claim dominion over the land

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 26, 2011 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Colts

I dont understand why the Colts are second on this list. Manning got a new contract in July for five years, $90 million dollars. Why would they draft a QB that isnt going to play for 5 years? And Why would they wrap all that money up in just one position. It doesnt make sense to me. They have so many other needs…

by BIGGESTCHIEFSFAN on Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Because Manning might not play for 5 more years. Players very rarely ever see the end of their contract.

And, frankly, there’s no guarantee that Manning will ever be the same again. If you’re sitting at the top of the draft because your 35 year old quarterback missed the entire season with a very serious injury, and the best player on the board is also the best QB prospect in at least a decade, you take him. Now you have your Manning insurance. And if he comes back at full strength, great.

But it’s better to get rid of a player too soon than too late (as both the 49ers and Packers would surely attest). You let Manning play at a high level for 2 or 3 more years, then play Luck when he’s ready. If Manning isn’t ready to retire, you flip him to a lesser team for draft picks.

"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan

by MtHammer on Sep 27, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mushin; You just earned yourself a Rec..
Oak (2-1) Sums of beaches
 
SD (2-1) Middle finger to you sir

"Stay Classy Kansas City"

by Mas Cervezas on Sep 27, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

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