Brandon Flowers' Injury Is Reportedly A High Ankle Sprain
by Joel Thorman on Sep 26, 2011 12:33 PM CDT
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The Kansas City Chiefs have lost a starter to a season-ending injury in three consecutive weeks -- TE Tony Moeaki in the final preseason game, S Eric Berry in Week 1 and RB Jamaal Charles in Week 2.
The good news is that it doesn't appear that trend has continued with CB Brandon Flowers, who went down clutching his knee after picking off a QB Philip Rivers pass in yesterday's 20-17 loss to the San Diego Chargers. Kent Babb of the KC Star later reported it was an ankle, not a knee, injury.
The bad news is that Nick Wright of 610 Sports follows it up this morning reporting that Flowers' injury is a high ankle sprain.
A high ankle sprain can cost a player several weeks of action, depending on the severity. As a reference, a high ankle sprain cost Dexter McCluster five weeks of action last year. It could be a couple weeks or it could be more than a month. It just depends on the degree of the sprain and Flowers' ability to come back from it.
It's not a season-ending injury but it's one that will likely cost Flowers some time.
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Very rough injury for a CB to have
hopefully it isn’t too bad. It really did look like they were working on his knee though
bunch of weird injuries this year
Other than Berry, it seems thee injuries are happening without contact.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
ACL injuries are usually non-contact. They usually come of cutting/quick change of direction
by Chiefs fan in ST Louis on Sep 26, 2011 12:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No great time to lose Flowers
But the next three weeks we face McNabb, Painter and Bye-week.
I guess there is worse times to lose him.
by craig in calgary on Sep 26, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions
disagree, this IS the worst time to lose him
we lose him during our only stretch of “winnable” games…I doubt his presence will matter once we get to the NE game. Of course if you’re on the ‘suck for luck’ campaign I guess it isn’t a bad thing.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
With Flowers out McNabb could potential throw for 50 yards, man those Vikes are scary.
by Damn the Man on Sep 26, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Do we have any other DBs who can tackle?
because AP is going to give them a chance to….and Harvin is no slouch.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
... and Shinancoe is a pretty solid TE.
if McNabb can place the ball to him well.
Go Chiefs!!!!
I agree, missing Flowers hurts, but if we lose to the Vikings it will have more to do with AP than McNabb. I’m more worried about good linebacker play for that game.
by Damn the Man on Sep 26, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
At what point...
Do we begin to question the training staff as well?
I get that injuries happen. But we’re having injuries that you’d think a “well conditioned” team wouldn’t be at as high a risk of having.
Preparing to welcome a future Chiefs fan in December... football season and fatherhood somehow go together.
Don't think there's anything that can prevent an ACL tear
I imagine the same goes for ankle sprains
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Increasing range of motion through football activities works to prevent hyperextension and ligament tears
I would think, anyway. Seems to me the number of ACL tears so far this season has far surpassed what occurred in all of 2010.
But I don’t have any numbers to back that up.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Sep 26, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is pretty much what I was getting at.
Preparing to welcome a future Chiefs fan in December... football season and fatherhood somehow go together.
The problem is
Most ACL tears are rotational injurys that occur when a player changes direction or gets hit in the knee from the side. Even with all of the ROM and conditioning possible they are still going to happen
by Chiefs fan in ST Louis on Sep 26, 2011 2:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well it was either teaching the playbook or conditioning in the preseason
Neither were addressed adequately….but I’m sure the team could evaluate movies playing in theaters for the fans.
Missing that one practice doomed the team for sure
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
ACLs
Aren’t preventable. Nothing that could have been done. It is just crappy luck.
by Chiefs fan in ST Louis on Sep 26, 2011 12:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
did you say luck?....Andrew luck?
Team "suck for Luck"
Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau.
Le’ron McClain might be to Christian Okoye what Tamba Hali is to Derrick Thomas.
by MasterBlaster7 on Sep 26, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
It was known injuries were going to happen especially this year
due to the lockout, nobody is conditioned like they would have been if the offseason was normal. Dont think we can blame training staff
by TheScreenName on Sep 26, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
the training staff can't be out there to step in between the helmet and berry's knee
or help jamaal turn his body angle as he reaches his step to get a first down
I don't know. How much credit do we give the training staff for our almost complete lack on any serious injuries last year?
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
*Of, not on.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
What exactly was the training staff supposed to do during a lockout?
They had a whole month to work with them. Don’t see how anyone can blame the trainers for how the players conditioned themselves the other 5 months.
We sure are batting .1000 in injuries weekly
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Sep 26, 2011 12:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
hopefully we'll get them all out of our system this year
plus I like Haley & hope he sticks around…if half his starters end up on IR it’s hard to justify getting rid of him based on record alone.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Don't discount Painter
the guy brought the team back. If he is out for a few weeks, why not just place him on IR, frees up a roster spot for another street player.
Painter under or overthrew almost everyone. Maybe I was focusing on something else but Painter bringing them back is not what I saw
...and people complain here about how Cassel doesn't hit open receivers
He had Reggie Wayne with no one else in sight for an easy touchdown and overthrew him by a good ten yards.
Wallace from PIttsburg would be a good reciever for painter
They say you can’t over throw him
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 26, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I couldnt believe it when i saw Flowers fall down and grab for his knee
But its good to hear its not an ACL tear. I was immediately praying for his ACL when I saw him fall down. Thank God its not.
I think Flowers will be back by the Oakland game. He’s a tough dude as we saw from his shoulder injury earlier in his career. And I believe 3 weeks is enough for him to recover. And it was also encouraging seeing how well our backups played in his absence.
by Chiefs08Matt on Sep 26, 2011 12:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I was surprised to hear how well they played...
I expected much worse, but then again it could have just been a fluke. Here’s to them continuing to play well.
Go Chiefs!!!!
I think the secondary looked good yesterday because
We had a good pass rush on Rivers pretty much all day long. That was by far the best we’ve looked all year up front on D and we also played the run pretty well. Our front 7 really turned it up a notch yesterday which made our secondary look pretty respectable IMO. If We can get that good of play out of them on a weekly basis this can still be a solid defense
by Chiefs08Matt on Sep 26, 2011 1:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sounds good... I was listening via the Radio.
I’m wondering what kind of average time Rivers had to throw yesterday? We need Kendrick Lewis to continue to step up like he did yesterday. Especially if the front 7 is stepping up their games! Dorsey and Jackson sounded like they had thier games on yesterday.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Yes, Lewis and Carr need to throw the Secondary on their backs and carry them until Flowers can return
There’s nothing we can do about Berry this season but like I said, if our front 7 can get pressure like they did yesterday I think they can negate some of our weaknesses back there. Speaking of weakness, did I hear that McGraw got knocked out of the game yesterday? Never heard anything more about it And haven’t heard anything today either.
by Chiefs08Matt on Sep 26, 2011 1:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
They said it was a knee bruise or sprain
don’t remember which one it was
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Yes McGraw did get knocked out of the game for some time.
I forgot about it… I haven’t heard anything more, but I thought he went back in?
Go Chiefs!!!!
I think it says something that we all barely noticed...
The guy can be replaced with langford and nobody even notices a drop off. Wonder why?
by Chiefs08Matt on Sep 26, 2011 1:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not a good injury for a CB to have and could takes weeks to heal.
8 weeks before he’s completely better is probably being conservative.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Sounds excessive, to me, unless you're the beef in the middle.
5 weeks at the most would be my guess.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
McCluster missed 5 weeks
and really wasn’t the same even after coming back.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
McCluster is a guy who is all about speed and how he can cut.
Flowers was never a burner and can still be a decent corner if he has to rely just on technique, plus you can help him with different coverages.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
Yeah high ankle sprain is a lingering nagging bitch
Tough on agile guys with lots of direction changing involved like HB’s an DB’s.
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
Any rookie missing 5 weeks is probably not going to be the same guy
Jitters all over again, thinking more, some conditioning lost, a BUNCH of lost reps… Lot of factors, for a rookie.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldnt say excessive.
Emphasis is on completely better. High ankle sprain is an injury that’s not worth coming back from early because he won’t be able to play effectively and it’s very easy to reinjure. Its unfortunately one of those injuries that just hangs around for a long time.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 26, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I gotcha, and will agree with that.
They can definitely linger, so maybe you aren’t too off base with your prognosis.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
Those suck but better than it could have been.
When he went down and immediately grabbed around his knee I figured he was lost. At that time had you told me he would just have a high ankle sprain I would have took it without a thought.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
think positive…we’ll be playing a last place schedule next year, 4 all pro type players should be healthy, and we’ll have an extra first round pick (Baldwin’ing)
Then, we can hear the easy schedule all ove arain, LOL
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
Again, I can't type today
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
As soon as I heard
it was an ankle, I thought it’s probably going to be a high ankle sprain. That seems to continue appropriately the injury trend.
Cassel duh
Thank you Mr Allen
by ArroHdJnke on Sep 26, 2011 1:37 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Thanks for increasing the Jinx geniuses!
Let’s hope this is the last of the injury parade!
"It's not always going to be pretty; and that's alright..."
Those that wish potentially fatal diseases or other ill-fortunes on others, are the LOWEST form of trash!
No. Me thinks you should be more positive.
"It's not always going to be pretty; and that's alright..."
Those that wish potentially fatal diseases or other ill-fortunes on others, are the LOWEST form of trash!
So four of our best 10 players are going to miss much or all of the season.
This makes me less angry about our predicament. Would we honestly suck this bad at fuul strength? NO!!
Why go all the way down to 10?
In my estimation, our best players starting the season: Charles, Hali, Berry, Bowe, Flowers, Moeaki
So I’d say more like four of our top 6 players…
I keep hoping they'll just get ballsy and start running a spread offense with 3 or 4 wide receivers.
Might have to wait for Baldwin to actually make the field.
Preparing to welcome a future Chiefs fan in December... football season and fatherhood somehow go together.
the problem with that is, the other
Teams will just blitz, and Cassel will panic and look for the short drop off
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 26, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
i was watching flowers after the injury he was walking around with ease trying to walk it off
he was doing some light jogging on the sidelines so i dont think its that bad
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
Did anyone else see that Cassel couldn't even
put his hat on at the end of the game? So uncoordinated…
One could argue we are down 4 of our top 6 players.
Crazy bad luck. Could any team survive that?
Imagine the steelers w/o Big Ben, Wallace, Harrison, and Palamalu (or something like that).
by VermeilLikesToCry on Sep 26, 2011 2:00 PM CDT reply actions
Of those
Palamalu is the only one that is huge.. Batch did fine for big ben
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 26, 2011 2:01 PM CDT reply actions
that really sucks. next to a tear or a break, the high ankle sprain and can the end of a good* season.
mccluster had one last year, and it slowed him beyond belief, he was useless beyond week 3, didnt see any spark til a return in week 16-17
This is another major loss, but….we drafted a kid to play corner, so we should be prepared. Not saying he replaces our 55mil dollar super corner…but it would be nice to see carr step up to show he can be a top corner, earn a contract, and then for brown to step in and step up
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
we have more depth at corner then safety for sure
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 26, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, safety bothers me. I still dont understand how langford isnt in over sabby
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
COME ON MAN .Enough with this Luck SHIT !!!!!. If we get him good, but I’m tired of seeing every freaking post wishing the Chiefs to lose, That’s some Doucheism if I’ve ever seen any. I will never hope we tank a season for anyone. As bad as the Chiefs suck, i hope they win. I’ll take 4 wins of 2
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
Team Stanzi :)
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Yes everyone rooting for us to tank
In my opinion, are simply wishing for a band aid to cover up the fact this team has no legs to stand on.
If we end this season in position to snag Luck (2 to 3 wins) do these people honestly believe Luck can fix this team?
To me, a 2 to 3 win team has way more problems than poor qb play.
If we finish 2 to 3 wins than that means we we have poor leadership from coaches down, a terrible defense made of of players who cant execute their roles, and an offense with a bad offensive line with no playmakers.
Andrew luck can not fix all that. If we get him we are gonna be 5 years of good drafting and fa pickups away from fielding a team that can win, just like we were 5 years ago.
I dont think we are that bad.
Atleast that is what i am rooting for because i dont want to watch another 5 years of the chiefs being the wipping boys of this league. Just like Brandon Flowers said, we are not going back to the old chiefs.
#58 will always be king!
I'm not part of the Luck movement
but the combination of drafting Luck and getting Berry, Charles and Moeaki back healthy next year should make a pretty big impact from one year to the next. Now with Flowers out for an extended period of time, this team is currently missing a TON of it’s core talent that it would hopefully have back next season.
I think that opinion is correct
Assuming Luck was the player everyone thought he would be.
Assuming he is:
Do we really want to be a team who’s super shitiness is covered up by good qb play, like the colts?
I would venture to say that the Colts, right now, have better players than us and they are struggling.
I would feel a whole lot better if we had good players all over the field, rather than just one position.
I want people in charge who can build a defense than can constantly win games, even with matt cassell at qb (even though i agree we need an upgrade)
i want a running game that can be top 3 in the league no matter if its jamaal charles back there or tj dmc and mcclain.
I think pioli can build this team, but he has had some hiccups on the way.
If draft day comes, and luck is there when the chiefs are on the clock, then yes please take him. But i do not think that he can fix everything.
#58 will always be king!
lots of assumptions, Luck could come out and suck for luck
could have a whole new meeting
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 26, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
How about we build a team...
With a solid QB, that elevates their team much like the Patriots, then when someone like Cassel has to start they can still go out and win 10 games.
I believe we have the foundation to be a solid team… I was looking at us being 7-9 at the beginning of the season without any injuries. I believe that all of the components are there for the Defense (we could use some more depth at safety). For me I’m all for us going out there and kicking ass for Luck. Our offense is what is draggin us down… our offensive line seems to be coming together. Next season we will see Hudson under center and we should see an improvement on our line again. The biggest problem we have is that we need to fix the QB.
Go Chiefs!!!!
The Colts have talent and are a good team beyond just Manning
They are simply starting the year with a totally unprepared QB who is below average to begin with and old as dirt. Colts will start winning games once they adjust. Their problem was they were banking on Manning coming back and didn’t make the right moves until it was too late. With even a halfway competent QB they beat the Steelers last night.
by CapsLockKey on Sep 26, 2011 3:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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I believe in the Chiefs' Way. Someday, we will set the standard for how to be a championship team!
I believe in the Chiefs' Way. Someday, we will set the standard for how to be a championship team!
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