Major ('s) ANALYSIS - FIRE 'EM - BENCH 'EM
I watched the game, backed up some plays, tracked analysis all game, but I think this Week 3 Edition of Major Analysis is pretty easy. Last week was, "Lions not too impressive, Chiefs that horrible." This week yelds up a different storyline, although did you see how Minnesota handled the Lions, still not impressed folks.
Here is what I want to say.
1. TURNOVERS TURNOVERS TURNOVERS - Very simple. They turn the game one way or another. The Chargers turned it over and it killed drives, but didn't yeld points, which ended up killing the Chiefs this week. This has to be the most singly important thing to happen to this team this year. 51 points of the 89 they've given up were off turnovers, this week we get the balance of them, can't take advantage, and it killed our attempt at a comeback.
Johnson leaves an INT on the field... turnovers killed us again, but at least we cut them out, except for that awful, idiotic, stupid, Pee Wee level INT thrown in the last minute... (I yelled...loudly)
This leads me to the following... and I will start the debate...
2. FIRE RYAN SUCCOP - There has to be some veteran that can hit field goals out there. Last weekend Succops' F*(CKUP did not end up costing the team, but stalled crucial momentum. This week, it cost us. We're going for the win with a tie game otherwise. Yes, I know that changes the game so I can't say that is TRUE, but in a game this close every point counted. Kickers key is confidence, I think his is shot, even if its not, its time to workout someone else and give is a serious consideration. Colquitt an kickoff, his leg is fine.
3. BENCH MATT CASSEL - I was doing my statistics research to justify what I want to say in my heart. Someone needs to spark this passing game. I think Stanzi or Palko could hit the passes that Cassel hit, that they could hand the ball off and more importantly, act like an NFL quarterback and GET RID OF THE BALL. throw it at the top of your drop, can't get any worse. Ok, I can't see downfield, and you can now go do that stat research I DIDNT go do, BUT I will play my trump card.
This coach has consistently benched people who couldn't perform, Dwayne Bowe and Derrick Johnson are better players for it. Maybe Matt Cassel will be. I don't think our backups are long term answers... maybe Stanzi will emerge though, who knows. However, I do know Matt Cassel needs to ride the pine and get his Tiger Blood back or something. I don't want to hear him at a presser either, frakkin rah rah stuff, take the blame Matt and say you sucked it up this week. This one is on YOU.
That's my stance in this debate. I agree he did throw for 7.5 a pass, and his passer rating was good, but it just didn't seem inspired, and he missed some open receivers and Dwayne Bowe and Steve Breaston made some GOOD CATCHES. Check out those highlights.
NOTE: I said bench... let him take Minnesota off. We can beat them, and the backups can generate his level fo stats.
4. THOMAS JONES FOR FULLBACK! - aka RIDE THE MCCLAIN TRAIN PLEASE - Thomas Jones is a stong man, but he will never tear an ACL because he doesn't know how to cut. Let him lead block and hit somebody, he likes to fall into people anyway. McClain looked shiftier, has proven he can play tailback and should be on the field blocking for McCluster anyway. So just leave him in when you pull McCluster out. Seriously. He looked better. Yes I know McClain had 2 yards on 2 carries... he just looked better, and Jones' 2.2 isn't going to cut it.
5. GAME BALL - DEFENSE - A great 4th down stand, 2 sacks - 2 hits and lots more pressure. Hali, Belcher had great games. Johnson left an INT on the field, argh. However, Phyllis looked uncomfortable all day long. So did Matt Cassel, but I digress... Anyway, I thought our defense played well overall. Communication looked especially better, whatever they were doing worked.
6. SMART PERSON AWARD - ? Whoever rememebered we had wideouts in the second half. if you listen to Steve Breaston after the game, he said they have to consistently go to the wideouts to get them in the game flow. I agree Steve... Those changes felt very Hayley like. If I knew it was, I'd add FIRE BILL MUIR (at least as a playcaller)
7. DoppelGanger Award - Dexter McCluster - He doesn't run as strong as Charles, but he runs frakkin quick and they are running most of the Charles plays to him. The one exception seems to be the stretch play that Charles ran so well, probably a result of the strong running. Although I did see him hit someone and he picked up a couple blitzes.
San DIego didnt look good on offense today... our defense looked like it could play today. At times our quarterback looked good, only to look bad on the next play. Same with the run game. We need consistency from the run game (Read as: No more Jones - he needs to block for our tailbacks) and our quarterback needs to... I dunno... find his mojo again (Read as: Yeah I think he had it once, I know many of you don't).
Thats what I think... thanks for reading!
NOTE: The suck for luck crowd should still be ashamed of themselves. Go to the damned game next weekend... and wear red. When San Diego fans are in fear their team will be leaving, we still have one worth supporting. Go Chiefs.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Why Bench Cassel
Right when he finally had a decent second half—-he blew it at the end but at least he started looking downfield. Lets see if we are 3-7 before we start thinking Stanzi.
by EricMightyChief on Sep 25, 2011 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Bench him... not trade him. I'll explain.
I don’t think Stanzi is a starter… I’m not saying he will be any better (I don’t think he will) but I think either one of them will be AS GOOD… and thats my point. I think we should bench Cassel, like Bowe was benched, like Johnson was benched, and let him feel like he needs to get his NFL QB face on or his days are numbered here at Faber… him and all of his sick and wrong decisions.
We can beat Minnesota with the effort we put in today (assuming we can get the run game tweaked) and our backups will do as well.
If its not on Cassel – sans that last interception than the passing game needs SOME shakeup, maybe it is Muir. I just think we were close, and next week is a good time for Cassel to ride the pine… maybe for a half, I dunno… I’m not a Cassel basher, but benching players with this coach has worked. Why no try…
by MjrMajor on Sep 25, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
YET... on stanzi not a starter
I can’t make a call either way. I do know our current QB deserves to be benched for his play – be consistent Todd.
agreed
no clue what’s going on in Cassel’s head, but this is ludicrous to say the least … .2 YPA or somesuch in the first half … nope, doesn’t cut it
as I said below: I don’t for one second think Muir is sitting there calling for a 3 yard outlet pass on 3rd and 4 … it just doesn’t happen
Stanzi, Palko, Zorn … someone not named Matt Cassel
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
If nothing else...
It sets a quality control standard… no one is immune. You play or you sit.
thank you :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Good call on the routes
I just wonder why anyone is running a route short of the sticks REGARDLESS of the play call. Those are veteran WRs out there. If the route in the playbook is 3 yards, but you need 4 to move the sticks, by gum adjust your GD route! Get to the sticks and move the chains! If your adjustment requires an adjustment by another guy, TELL HIM! Hell, everyone should be smart enough that if you’re running a crossing route from the left slot and the right TE and you need 4 yards, the slot should run his route at FIVE and the TE needs to go to 8 or 9. This game isn’t rocket science.
All that said, it is NOT a pat on the back for KC QB #7.
agree and rec
Cassel needs a wakeup call
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 25, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Minnesota's pass rush will destroy Cassel
Seriously, I’m not sure he’ll survive the game.
not so sure about that, Lucas ...
… I think Palko can get rid of the ball quickly enough to avoid most sacks :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
But the second half
Will be a battle of who sucks less. Vikes could be up 30 in the first half, but they NEVER come out for the second half. Blew a 20 pt lead yesterday. I think they’ve blown a double-digit lead in every game this season.
Dude! props and a rec and all that, well done and well said ... saves me the trouble of doing my own rant (grin) so I'll go ahead and add a bit as an amendment here
wtg defense! finally something positive to hang our collective hats or helmets on … 2 INTs and a sack, much better than it has been
as for what is being laughably passed off as an offense … well, let’s see here: pathetic, pitiful, ridiculous, inept, insane and abhorrant (I could list more but you get the idea) … 39 yards of total offense in the first half (not counting last second garbage) … oh, let’s look at that one more time … thirty-nine yards in an entire half, are you kidding me? really? that’s it? come on, man!
down by only 10 pts at the half and even then it was apparant the game was over, garbage time and soft Chargers defense the only thing allowing the offense to manage even a semblance of moving the ball … do you know many 3 and outs we had in the first half? yeah, me either offhand and I’m not gonna go look it up, but it was way, way, way too many … 39 yards? child, please! an NFL team look THAT gawdawful has no business collecting paychecks (performance pay sure looks good right about now, imagine the savings!)
so, what next? yup, I’ll say it too … Matt, you’re an awesome guy and a great teammate for the gang and you’re tough and a competitor, but dude … that’s it, sorry man
time for Stanzi, let’s see what he has to offer … he’s not ready yet? fine, let’s put Palko the Fearless out there, maybe a lefthander will confuse the opposition
can Dex throw the ball? a veer offense might work … might be time to call Brodie and see if remembers which end of a football is which … hell, if we could get Lenny the Cool to come down from the booth it would be an improvement
and those of you thinking “but wait, look how well Matty did in the second half!” … no, not when it’s all over but the shouting and playing out the string of an inevitible loss … three strikes, you’re out!
Palko or Stanzi … grab a bat, you’re up!
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Sep 25, 2011 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm calling for the play callers head sooner than Matt's
(not that I’m not disappointed in how Cassel handled that last play). But, really, when Cassel was allowed to air it out, he did well, all in all, today. Yes, yes, that last play was horrible and that’s whats going to stick in everyone’s minds, but my question is: why did we let it even get to that point? There were numerous opportunities, a plenty, to do something more with the offense. But Jones’ 3 yard carries, draw plays, and passes to the RB in the flat will only get you so far got us nowhere today.
Don’t punch me. I’ll hit back. :)
ok, first half and it's 3rd and 4 ...
do you honestly believe that Muir sat in the booth, looked down and thought to himself “yanno, we need to punt the ball, let’s not do anything” and then called down with the play and said "Matt, it’s 3rd and 4 so I want you to throw a 3 yard pass to … "
no, absolutely no way … not a an ice cube’s chance in Hades
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I said that before
theres no way that the play calls call for matt to throw for 3 yards. Bowe went out then Breaston started catching balls and was open. You mean to tell me that Breaston wasn’t getting open the whole game on the #2 corner until Bowe went out??? Get outta here, MC looks at the first read, end of story. Dudes gotta go
The WRs made some good catches.
I think our backups make those passes. Let him ride the pine and at least see what other folks can do. matt just needs to sit. Maybe itll change the dynamic.
yup
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Umm...What?
down by only 10 pts at the half and even then it was apparant the game was over, garbage time and soft Chargers defense the only thing allowing the offense to manage even a semblance of moving the ball
and those of you thinking "but wait, look how well Matty did in the second half!" … no, not when it’s all over but the shouting and playing out the string of an inevitible loss … three strikes, you’re out!
Because it looks like you are saying that the Chargers were just letting the Chiefs score 17 pts on them and get the game close because they had no fear of the Chiefs moving the ball- pure garbage time and all. It would be incredibly stupid of the Chargers to do that so I am sure that is not what your are saying. I’d appreciate it if you could clarify.
Though I suppose the Chargers could be incredibly stupid.
They are known to play down to their competition.
Rec'd--and I couldn't have said it any better myself.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
Cassel had a chance to prove he's a real Quarterback
90 seconds (roughly) on the clock, you’ve got the ball down by a FG with no time outs. That is the kind of drive Brady, Manning, Rodgers, and Brees drool for. A true leader marches his team downfield, manages the clock, even scrambles out of bounds for a first down or two himself. Cassel threw a quick screen to the DE, game over.
Burp
and you know what will happen ...
… others WILL be blamed, Cassel WILL be duly heralded for his second-half “comeback” and unless someone sends a letter-bomb to Haley we’ll probably see it all over again next week
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I have had Cassel's back
since he became a Chief. After yesterday, I am officially quitting that post.
I really had hope that he would come into his own here in KC. He IS a tough player, a good leader, and good to have in the locker room- by all accounts I’ve read or seen.
BUT- The dude is scared to throw downfield, stares down his primary target, very slow through his progressions (if he makes progressions), scrambles when he doesn’t need to, stays put when he should be scrambling, & panics….
Yup- Done with Cassel, if Stanzi makes mistakes at least he’ll be learning from them. Cassel is a veteran; if he hasn’t learned by now it’s not going to happen.
8/31/09 Haley's office: "Sorry Chan, we have to let you go, no hard feelings."
9/11/11 Midfield Arrowhead Stadium: "No hard feelings at all Todd."
by Lucky777Luciano on Sep 26, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Threw it to the SS actually (or is he a FS?)
Regardless, the throw was of 6th grade decision-making quality and should have been put in the ground. He had to see the bodies OUTSIDE of Dex. Why even throw it there. He missed by an easy 2 yards…maybe 3.
You’re right, the great ones absolutely yearn for those situations. KC QB #7 is not a great one…hell, I’d settle for good at this point.
Great write up
Normally, I would not say “Bench the QB” after 3 games – but sweet Lord! MC, what are you doing out there? I’m with you. Let’s let Palko or Stanzi play. We now truly know what we have with Cassel – at best a game manager, and at worst a game loser. Either way, you don’t consistently make it to the playoffs and win playoff games with either type of QB.
So let’s see if we’ve got a diamond in the rough in either of our backups.
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normally we wouldn't see this kind of putrid play for 3 games in a season, much less opening the season with 3 in a row like this
Normally, I would not say "Bench the QB" after 3 games
honestly, I still have some hope left for this season … not a lot, maybe, but some … we can win some games, we can do better than this
if it’s Stanzi and we see what he has, hey the kid couldn’t possibly be any worse, if it’s Palko I’m fine with that too, as long it’s not Cassel out there next week as the starter I’ll be down with it
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I would give it a 95% chance that it's still Cassel starting next week
I don’t think Haley or Pioli will give up on Cassel after 3 games. I think they’ll give him at least until the bye to try to show something. Which just means we will waste another 2 games of not seeing if we have anything in our backups – and given that we’re playing Minnesota and Indy, we could even win both of them, and then Haley and Pioli can delay pulling Cassel even longer.
Ugh.
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Heaven forbid
they should look into the past THREE SEASONS to see multiple examples of the same ineptitude. If the college kid can no longer be named around here, than I shall no longer name KC QB #7.
So when we start talking about "The QB who shall not be named"
Who are we talking about?
As in, “I think the QB who shall not be named is a perfect replacement for the QB who shall not be named.”
Actually, in re-reading that, I know exactly who we’re talking about.
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ABSOLUTELY AGREE
Matt Cassel did nothing today to demonstrate that he deserves to be a starting NFL quarterback. And he did several things to demonstrate that he is, at best, a perennial backup QB. The best demonstration of the latter was that last play, when he panicked and threw the ball directly into the defender’s hands. Bench him. We can’t do worse, and we just might do better.
Ancora imparo.
PS --> ya knew this was going to happen didn't ya?
They were going to make just enough of a second half run to give me hope. I so wish they would’ve beaten the Chargers just so the whole damned press corps would’ve had to re-evaluate this “worst in the league BS…” and we couldve made Phyllis kick the ball or something…
damn damn damn…
if we're going to lose, I'd just as soon we'd been as bad in the second half as the first, just so there'd be NO misunderstandings
what I fear now is that Cassel did just barely enough in the second half that the Chiefs brain-trust will say “well see? he wasn’t so bad after awhile”
great post by Steve, btw … Are You Kidding Me?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I think it's assured
to happen. We’re going to sink with the MC ship and no life boats will be offered…
The powers that be are much more likely to blame Carr for not falling on a fumble, DJ for dropping an INT, & Succop missing a FG, than to look at Cassel & realize the REAL reason we got beat.
Under 40 yards after an entire half ? Seriously??? The leader of this offense must be held accountable.
Add in that a 3 point loss seems to be viewed as a victory to the staff, which is horrifying.
8/31/09 Haley's office: "Sorry Chan, we have to let you go, no hard feelings."
9/11/11 Midfield Arrowhead Stadium: "No hard feelings at all Todd."
by Lucky777Luciano on Sep 26, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Lilja
I’m not trying to make an excuse for Matt but am I the only one who thought Lilja just wiffed a couple times today. I don’t remember the exact play but Lilja pulled and wiffed on the guy he was supposed to block and his man is the one that forced the early throw from Cassel. Then you are telling me he can’t block the freaking safety on that screen play. Even had the throw been good McCluster gets nailed for a loss or at best an incompletion.
consider the following ...
Matt Cassel completed 6 of 7 passes for 18 yards in the entire first half, to go with 1 fumble
not one of those completions was to a WR
none
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
No I get that
Like I said I’m not defending Cassel I’m just simply saying that Lilja killed us on those two plays and he hasn’t looked good. And let’s be honest here there is no way Haley wasn’t calling the plays in the second half. Regardless it was sad to see all dinking in the first half.
Lilja
Lilja isnt the one throwing the ball, sure its a designed play and maybe its a Dexter was supposed to be in a certain area the fact is Cassel had more than enough time to see that it was a broken play and his, his accuracy has always been question and for him to make that throw that was no where near Dexter was horrible. He had more than ample time to just throw the ball away or ground it at Dexters feet
He was throwing to McCluster
I get that the throw wasn’t great. I’ll admit that it was a bad throw. My point is that that was the second play where I saw Lilja completely wiff on what he was supposed to do. In most situations that ball hit’s the lineman in the back and it’s an incomplete but because the screen was getting blown up because someone missed their block it was an INT.
You make my point for me
there is ALWAYS an excuse for KC QB #7’s blunders. Every single mfing time! The great ones deliver balls, on target, while getting planted. The good ones deliver balls on target while under duress. The average ones just just deliver balls on target 75% of the time, duress or not.
KC QB #7 is an average to slightly-below-average QB.
And yes. I’m aware the throw was SUPPOSED to go to Dex. Regardless of a “missed block” )which there cannot be when a defensive player perfectly diagnoses the play and there aren’t enough bodies out there to do so!) KC QB #7 needs to have the where-with-all to throw the ball at Dex’s feet and live to snap it once more.
He did
Lilja was supposed to Pull to the backside and take out the backside rusher.
He Never got there
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 25, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Cassel and want him to do well
but I also have to admit that I wonder how another quarterback would look playing in his place. I can’t imagine that our game plan has him throwing behind the line of scrimmage so much- did he do it that much last year? I think Cassel is probably our best option at the moment, but I am curious and there is niggling bit of uncertainty.
On Thomas Jones… he made me miss #25. A lot. He could probably do well against some teams, but when it has been proven that it is not working, why try to continue forcing it?
Good post, but this us uncalled for, and frankly I'm sick of it:
NOTE: The suck for luck crowd should still be ashamed of themselves. Go to the damned game next weekend… and wear red
I’ve been a fan for 20 years, and have gone to dozens of games over the years. I really don’t need other fans questioning my resolve because I believe a 0-16 season would be more beneficial than a 4-5 win season at this point.
And it’s not even that I WANT KC to “suck”. But I call it like I see it. This team is putrid, and the biggest reason for that falls on the QB. I’ve watched for 20 years as the Chiefs sift through cast aways from other teams and half hearted draft picks. It’s time to end this nonsense and draft a top tier QB talent and develop him.
No, I’m tired of my fandom being questioned. I can suffer through one more putrid season if it means we finally fill the most important position on the team with real talent. I could just as easily question fans that have become content with years upon years of mediocrity and continue to coddle this team and say BS such as “well at least they try”, and continue to attend games even when the product is shit. I’m willing to suffer through a year of record setting awfulness for the long term good of the team… But no, apparently I’m not a “true fan” unless I want to see the team win a few more games in a meaningless year, and pay for tickets to watch this inept team take the field.
Screw that. people that continue to be ok with this are the one that should be “ashamed”.
one thing to consider ...
anyone who buys a product wants that product to be the best available … fans with season tickets want (and deserve) to see the best possible football team that the Chiefs can be on any given Sunday … same with single-game ticket buyers
the “reasoning” behind the “go ahead and lose games” thing yeah, I get it, we all get it … nobody’s so stupid that we’d turn away an elite QB if … IF … it were to happen
but to WISH it happen, to HOPE and PRAY and CHEER FOR THE TEAM TO LOSE … and this is precisely what the vast majority of the Suckers for Luck are saying and wanting … is an insult to those who, in good faith, spend hundreds and/or thousands of dollars a year to attend games and see the Chiefs play to the best of their abilities
quite aside from the obvious fact that any QB or other player could just as easily fail as succeed (it’s happened, you know) there’s also this to consider: “we’re not good enough, not talented enough to win so we want a handout from the universe” … I suppose I should’nt go to my crappy, part-time no guarantees of tomorrow substitute job today and lean back hoping to get a handout from unemployment … no, I owe it to myself and society to do the best I can do every day, to work as hard as I can every day, to apply for jobs and take what’s out there as the falls my way, and if I don’t get that million dollar a year CEO job, at least I can say that I tried
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Sep 26, 2011 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
suck for luck
its not what i want its what is going to happen.THIS TEAM SUCKS give me something that says they are a good team.were NOT and as long as cassels the QB we WILL be drafting luck next year
Man I haven't read or heard any fans
saying they are “ok” with what’s going on.
Even the most devoted are frustrated / saddened / pissed.
Big difference in not being devastated if we lose, or even boycotting ticket purchases – if you’re that unhappy with the team’s owner, & actually cheering against the team.
Apathy is one thing, cheering for losses – cheering AGAINST the team is another. IMO
8/31/09 Haley's office: "Sorry Chan, we have to let you go, no hard feelings."
9/11/11 Midfield Arrowhead Stadium: "No hard feelings at all Todd."
by Lucky777Luciano on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Another Solution
David Garrard is out there on the FA QB market. If you don’t think that Stanzi or Palko are viable options to start for any length of time, get him. I’m sure he’ll be cheap and help place the necessary pressure on Scott Mitchell Matt Cassel to be a legitimate QB.
Rec's for the article, except bench Cassel, that WILL NOT get his MOJO back. I also believe he has it as well.
Zorn is throwing (literally in some cases) a whole new way of approaching the position AT Matt; which in turn; causes regression for a time; just like last year with Weis. Matt WILL be better as the season goes along, and with a full season of Zorn’s direction and a TRUE offseason, I can see us lighting it up big time against a softer schedule next year.
Also you Suck for Luck white flag waiver’s really make me sick.
SICK OF LUCK.
"It's not always going to be pretty; and that's alright..."
Those that wish potentially fatal diseases or other ill-fortunes on others, are the LOWEST form of trash!
by crashman6 on Sep 26, 2011 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I can see us lighting it up
with the run game again, like last year.
I cannot see MC ever “lighting it up” with the passing game.
Unless he had an absolute All-Star cast of pass blockers and 3 to 4 great receiving options and a system totally designed around all of it.
That is not what’s going on here in KC.
8/31/09 Haley's office: "Sorry Chan, we have to let you go, no hard feelings."
9/11/11 Midfield Arrowhead Stadium: "No hard feelings at all Todd."
by Lucky777Luciano on Sep 26, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Bench Matt Cassel
Especially if the team doesn’t win this week. Pull ’em at half-time if he still sucks, which he probably will.
Cassel doesn’t make good decisions under pressure. He doesn’t survey the field well when dropping back. Fails to recognize pressure. The list is endless of things he has neither the ability to, or simply fails to correct when under pressure.
I’m not going to rant about the kicker. This to me is just a sign of a coach, or coaches unprepared for the season when you can’t execute plays that simple.
Agreed on Jones. Get ’em outta dare! Get a young, hungry warrior for the backfield.
by chief66 on Sep 26, 2011 10:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
They won't pull him at half-time
because, as we all know, they’re far too busy engaging in various and sundry non-football-related activities at that time to be bothered with actually adjusting to whatever misfortune has befallen them in the preceding 30 minutes. Yesterday, at half-time, the team was obviously busy selecting a winner in the Hy-Vee “I Wanna Be An Offensive Coordinator” contest. Much to their surprise, the eventual winner, a Mr. Chuck Wagon from Dangton, Oklahoma, actually demonstrated an uncanny knack for the job, which accounts for the remarkable shift in play-calling during the second half in San Diego. His only problem was making himself heard over Bill Muir’s snoring.
Mr. Wagon was reportedly told after the game that his services would no longer be needed and that he should “never shop at Hy-Vee again, thank you very much.”
(where the hell did all that come from?)
Just keep on matriculatin' that ball down the field, boys.
I wouldn't be surprised if we have a new kicker for the Vikings game.
Missing a field goal every game is unacceptable and is having an impact on the outcome of games. It’s not like he is missing 60 yarders. All of them have been well within an average kickers range.
Cassel stats 3 game average make him below average
took Cassel basic 3 game stats and got an average and this is what where expecting if he doesnt improve his game
Averaging over 3 game: 18 comp for 27 attempts for 142 yards/game 1 TD / 1.5 INT / 1.5 Sacks
Taking that Average plus previous 3 games Cassel would finish with this.
2274 yards, 16 TD / 26 INT and 26 Sacks
Cassel ranks 31st for QB rating at 65.5, just below Kerry Collins whos rating is 65.9. To tell me that Cassel is our starter and is our best chance to win, and yet his QB rating is worse than that of Collins who was basically on retirement and only signed prior to the start of regular season is ridiculous.
You it's funny how negative AP has been this year. And it seems the loudest most voracious hate is coming from the newbies that just signed up this year.
"It's not always going to be pretty; and that's alright..."
Those that wish potentially fatal diseases or other ill-fortunes on others, are the LOWEST form of trash!
by crashman6 on Sep 26, 2011 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe they've just been lurking in the shadows
and now the ineptitude and failure to respond to said ineptitude has driven them, in a blind rage, from the shadows that formerly concealed their presence.
It happens.
by SCKSChief on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol well i can tell you from the beginning of cassel time i never liked him, they should have kept Tyler Thigpen, even Tony G wanted him to the be starter. if you compare the two stats at the time, Thigpen with 2 less games had virtually the same stats as cassel and on top of that Cassel took over a team that went to the superbowl and finished 16-0 the previous year. you put any QB on a team that went 16-0, and to the superbowl and finsished #1 in passing offense and passing and top 10 in rest of the catagories i bet they would have had success.
cassel has never started a game since highschool, he was a back up to matt leinhart in college, we all know how good he did, the fact that Cassel couldnt even take the #2 job over leinhart speaks volumes.
Cassell had one blockbuster year with #1 team and ranked atleast top 5 in all major catagories as well as having Moss, Stallworth and welker
both Thigpen and Cassel where hovering around the 50-60 QB Rating, i would have easily taken Thipgen over Cassel at the time. would have saved 60mil and 2nd round pick. also thigpen had all the upside to him, he was young, a gun slinger and mobile and took half as many sacks as cassel did. and to have 2 QB with virtually the same stats and thigpen playing on one of the leagues worst team vs Cassel having all the weapons and playing with the leagues best team, thigpen had more potential. cassel was a 1 hit wonder a system QB he accelled cause the team and supporting cast around him was amazing. thigpen did just as good as cassel stat wise with nothing

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