Latest Chiefs Depth Chart With NFL Roster Cuts Coming
WR: Jerheme Urban, Steve Breaston, Jonathan Baldwin, Verran Tucker, Jeremy Horne
LT: Branden Albert, Jared Gaither, David Mims, Butch Lewis
LG: Ryan Lilja, Darryl Harris, Lucas Patterson
C: Casey Wiegmann, Rodney Hudson, Darryl Harris
RG: Jon Asamoah, Bobby Greenwood, Mike Ingersoll, Chris Harr
RT: Barry Richardson, Chris Harr
TE: Leonard Pope, Tony Moeaki, Jake O'Connell, Cody Slate, Charlie Gantt, Anthony Becht
WR: Dwayne Bowe, Dexter McCluster, Terrance Copper, Keary Colbert, Zeke Markshausen
QB: Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko, Ricky Stanzi
FB: Le'Ron McClain, Mike Cox, Shane Bannon
RB: Thomas Jones, Jamaal Charles, Jackie Battle
DEFENSE
LDE: Tyson Jackson, Allen Bailey, Amon Gordon
NT: Kelly Gregg, Anthony Toribio, Jerrell Powe, Harold Ayodele
RDE: Glenn Dorsey, Wallace Gilberry, Dion Gales, Brandon Bair
LOLB: Andy Studebaker, Cameron Sheffield, Justin Houston
LILB: Jovan Belcher, Justin Cole, Amara Kamara
RILB: Derrick Johnson, Demorrio Williams, Cory Greenwood, Micah Johnson
ROLB: Tamba Hali, Pierre Walters, Gabe Miller
LCB: Brandon Flowers, Travis Daniels, Quinten Lawrence, Demond Washington
RCB: Brandon Carr, Javier Arenas, Jalil Brown
SS: Eric Berry, Reshard Langford, Donald Washington
FS: Kendrick Lewis, Jon McGraw, Sabby PIscitelli, Ricky Price
SPECIAL TEAMS
P: Dustin Colquitt, Ryan Succop
K: Ryan Succop
PR: Javier Arenas, Dexter McCluster, Steve Breaston, Jerheme Urban, Donald Washington
KR: Javier Arenas, Dexter McCluster, Steve Breaston, Quinten Lawrence, Donald Washington
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I hate to say it
but I’m right there with you on this one. B.Rich should be cut.
Why cut B-Rich if you have no one to replace him with?
I know he’s struggled big time but he was average/below average last year which is better than the guys behind Gaither.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 2, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know
he should be could, in an ideal world, but there is no option B. I do think he lost his starting job though, to Gaither, and now maybe they’ll take getting another Tackle and Center a priority from this point on.
exactly
he’s struggled without TE help this preseason… but WORST case scenario, they will keep a TE in to help him more during the regular season, and he’ll be AT LEAST as good as he was last year… leading the league in rushing, and allowing less sacks than much of the rest of the league
Hopefully
We can find someone after cuts. Should be someone that is an upgrade out there
by KCNorm on Sep 2, 2011 10:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I would think so as well
but I think there are a lot of teams out there that are looking for good tackles and there just aren’t enough to go around. I don’t remember if there were any viable FAs available during that brief FA period, it was so crazy.
Just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys.
IMO he was left on island for many plays in pre-season.
He will see much more help in regular season. IMO that is reason to sign monster TE like Becht and draft and sign FA FBs. They know our OTs need help in our scheme. I just wish our OTs were better at pass protection. It hurts veratility to have so much manpower directed away from being targets. Means our WRs will see a lot of double teams and limit us to lots of underneath stuff again.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Waters was better, C.Wiegmann is literally on his last legs
Ryan Lilja has been out.
Would have liked to see more upgrades on the line, the draft and free agency really didn’t show this was a priority.
Asamoah could easily be better than Waters this year
Hudson was a great pick, and will really payoff down the road
Gaither is looking promising as well
once Lilja is healthy, I think the Line will be just fine…
You definitely see the glass as half full
could be, still waiting to see the hype on Asamoah. Gaither needs to stay healthy, same with Lilja. Lilja just represents staying on par with last year, not really an upgrade.
I really hope you are right, and not my view.
Somebody will pick him up in a week or two
when they don’t have to fully guarantee his contract.
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He is also smart.
Why sign now. If he waits until a good team loses a guard, he will probably make more money.
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I think it's very possible that the Chiefs pick him up
once they don’t have to guarantee his salary
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Waters would be a better RT then anyone we have on our roster.
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by GenericBrand on Sep 2, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Our OL looked horrible
they could’nt make enough holes hor JC or TJ to run through
by Stanzi_City_Chiefs on Sep 2, 2011 10:10 AM CDT reply actions
I think we all did
Get him back in there and Gaither at T, and our pass pro will look 5x better.
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I missed the game...
Did J. Gaither play any RT at all? How did he look?
Yes, Gaither played RT in the second half.
Not sure if he played the whole half but he was in there for quite awhile.
Gaithers played the whole game
He looked pretty dang good to me. I think his biggest issue is ultra fast OLBs… but he should be good against DE’s. He is an upgrade over Richardson.
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He played RT
And he was a rock over there. Just like he was on the left side last week
by RamX21 on Sep 2, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good. Hopefully he can take over for B-Rich.
I get tired of him being dominated and his constant holding penalties.
I was expecting BRich to take a step foreword
but the 4 holding calls in 2 games are ridiculous. I’m guessing he’s still learning proper technique and while he’s trying to get comfortable he’s just grasping
Awesome! I haven't watched the 2nd half yet
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I thought he was in some in the 1st half...
But I could be wrong.
I was a little shot anyways
First week of law school. They have you hit the gates RUNNING. It’s hardcore…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
You mean he has now given up a sack as the LT and 1 sack as the RT
In less than a full game’s worth of playing time. If Albert did that, give up 2 sacks in less than a full game, some “fans” would demand he be cut, moved to his “natural position”, tarred and feathered.
I'm waiting for a sign from the Chiefs
That they will consider starting, what is clearly the most talented OL: Albert, Lilja, Weigmann, Asamoah, Gaither.
B-Rich has regressed, that’s no bueno.
Convinced that Albert’s the better option at LT?
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
Albert isn't moving now.
There is almost no chance.
It would take an offseason to move him to RT. He could do it, but they aren’t going to make the switch in one week.
At this point, I'd agree.
Especially now that Gaither seems to finally be getting real reps at right tackle. That being said, if Gaither plays really well and stays healthy I wouldn’t be shocked if they swapped him with Albert next year.
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LT and RT are basically the same position
All the plays COULD be run to the other side, and the LT SHOULD know what he would be doing if the play call were flipped.
I don’t get why people act like moving to RT would be so hard for Albert.
The only difference is that if he’s on the right side, the QB can see if he misses his block in pass protection. Hence putting the better tackle on the left.
This is completely incorrect
I am not saying Albert can’t play RT, he certainly can, but there is a huge footwork difference.
It’s something he could learn, but not in one week.
I really don't know if he has really regressed.
I think they are just not giving him help every pass play like in the season last year. He has always been a terrible pass protector.
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See ya, Cooper
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I think Cooper is Gerald McCoy's new nickname for Palko.
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Its a shame
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I don't agree
When you look at what his position #5/6 WR (depending on classification of other players) is actually giving you, he is the best at what he is asked to do.
The position is going to play no more than 4 or 5 plays on offense, and will be out special teams packages.
There is more value to the spot on ST’s than in the regular offense, barring an injury. Copper is simply the superior ST’s player.
Ideally, this conversation wouldn’t be happening, b/c we would’ve brought in someone like Steve Smith as a legit option at WR and pushed everyone else down a spot.
really? you think? i was kinda thinking that too
by Stanzi_City_Chiefs on Sep 2, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep. Tucker is a good ST player and brings more to the WR position.
Tucker wouldn’t of dropped that huge pass last night.
Copper is a better ST player
And neither guy would see hardly any action at WR barring an injury.
ST’s outweighs WR production at that position.
I have to disagree.
Tucker was all over ST’s last season. The potential and good ST play will push Tucker over Copper.
Tucker is a solid ST'r
Just not quite in Copper’s class.
Maybe this year but you also have to look at the long run
We’ve seen what Copper’s upside is at WR, nothing. Tucker is still young and has promise
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
I think we're blinded by the lack of quality in our WR core
If we truly think Tucker has promise.
I agree he has more upside than Copper, I just don’t think it matters b/c I doubt Pioli sees either as a real contributor at any point.
Blinded by Pac10 love too
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I may be wrong...
But wasn’t he a non-factor in college anyway?
You should be able to look past it.
Very high yards per reception at Cal
Remember, Kevin Riley was throwing to him and they were straight feeding Javid
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Who had more catches:
Tucker at Cal or Boerigter in the NFL?
I don’t know, just asking. Was he a JUCO?
they'll keep both
They can keep both of them. Colbert and Markshausen are gone.
I think Colbert made the team with his first down catch last night on 4th down.
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by GenericBrand on Sep 2, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Tucker is Copper
But he can catch and actually contribute in the passing game.
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by GenericBrand on Sep 2, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Dang, used to love that show.
Live Adventure!
by MountainManMike on Sep 3, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Thomas Jones
I think he should be cut, he looked extra slow last night and you can give his carries to McClain
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by KingChief on Sep 2, 2011 10:17 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think everyone should be cut because we have so much depth at so many positions
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by groundedchevy on Sep 2, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cut Charles too
He kept fumbling last night
by Chatch McNasty on Sep 2, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
That's been his problem his whole career.
Didn’t we have the vid with Haley talling Jamal, that’s my football, you better protect it if you want to play, since the first week of the first Todd Haley camp? Camp #3 just ended.
Say what you want, but you can be as talented as they come, but if you turn over the ball, someone like Parcells (and Haley, aka mini-Parcells) won’t play you, they don’t care what your name is. A.P. couldn’t play on a Parcells/Haley team, they would be too scared of a turnover.
This will cost J.C. a lot of cash in the long run.
He just signed a new contract last year
Every running back fumbles occasionally, and Charles didn’t fumble very often last year. He’ll be fine, he’ll get his carries, and there is absolutely no way Thomas Jones gets cut.
by Chatch McNasty on Sep 2, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
The threat of the fumble
is keeping Thomas Jones employed. People literally scream in agony during games “why are they giving TJ the ball here??” And the reason is simple, because he isn’t going to fumble the ball. People think TJ is the change up back, but in Haley’s mind it’s JC that is the change up. And all the moaning and crying and carrying on on game day, proves it.
Didn't TJ have more fumbles then Jamaal last year?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 2, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
He did indeed.
Jones had 3 fumbles last season. Charles had 2.
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7 career fumbles
2 his rookie year on limited carries which could be why he gets that stigma, 2 his soph more year and 3 last year. not great but not killer either.
Point of order.
Adrian Peterson only fumbled the ball once last year.
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He would be starting for a Parcells/Haley team
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by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 2, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
This is also true.
The idea that Haley wouldn’t play Adrian Peterson if he had him is ludicrous.
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I gotta believe Torbio will be cut. Did he play at all last night?
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by RememberDelaney37 on Sep 2, 2011 10:18 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Is he injured?
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by RememberDelaney37 on Sep 2, 2011 10:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
They often won't play guys they know they are cutting, becasue they don't want them to get hurt and have to pay him.
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I am a little concerned about Stanzi not playing last night.
I sure hope the wanted to see as much of Palko as possible so they could see they need to cut him, and not that they did not want anymore tape of Stanzi because Pioli is going to try and hide him on the practice squad. I don’t think he would clear waivers.
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Stanzi is the #3
That wasn’t going to change last night.
They needed to decide if Palko can be the #2 or if he needs to be replaced.
OR, if you think he’s already on the team, they needed to get him ready as the #2. When you carry 3 QB’s, you don’t worry much about getting the #3 ready, especially when he’s a developmental guy.
First 15 cuts:
Harr, Ingersol, B. Greenwood, Patterson, Gantt, Horne, Markhausen, Gordon, Ayodele, Kamara, Cole, Demond Washington, Piscitelli, Price, Walters.
I’d be very surprised if more than 1 guy in this group makes the 53. I’d surprised if more than 2 make the PS. After these, the choices get tougher. And then there are everyone else’s cuts. I can see us picking up three guys out of waivers at least, heavily leaning towards OL and QB here.
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by Falcon58 on Sep 2, 2011 10:29 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
So if Pierre Walters gets cut will he be able to join AP again?
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Not sure about Greenwood
he’s a Specials terror, could keep him employed here.
Pioli will keep Cory Greenwood just to keep the Canadian Chiefs fans happy.
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Pioli will keep Cory Greenwood just to keep some of the Canadian Chiefs fans happy.
Fixed that for you. As if there’s any making craig in calgary happy…
You know, short of throwing the Broncos a first rounder for Tebow.
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Not sure about Gordon and maybe Kamara
I actually believe Gordon makes the team.
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I agree
I think Gordon is gonna be this years S. Smith. Maybe not on the same level but a surprising contributor
I could maybe see this...
If Toribio is cut or placed on IR. I’ve been wondering about Bair myself. I can see them keeping 5 DEs because right now I think TJax is still on the hot seat.
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by Falcon58 on Sep 2, 2011 12:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Next 10
Mims, Copper, Battle, Cox, Slate/Pope, Gales, Bair, Davis/Lawrence, Bannon, and Colbert/ Tucker.
The / means ‘or’. Several of these will be practice squad guys, like Mims, Bair, and Bannon. Is Lawrence PS eligible?
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by Falcon58 on Sep 2, 2011 12:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"Is Lawrence PS eligible?"
Yes, Three years is the max, so Lawrence, Gales, Harris and B Greenwood are all eligible.
This is my guess.
Cuts
Jeremy Horne
Lucas Patterson
Mike Ingersoll
Chris Harr
Charlie Gantt
Anthony Becht
Terrance Copper
Zeke Markshausen
Shane Bannon
Jackie Battle
Harold Ayodele
Brandon Bair
Dion Gales
Amara Kamara
Micah Johnson
Demorrio Williams
Demond Washington
Sbby Piscetelli
Ricky Price
Keary Colbert
Amon Gordon
IR
Darryl Harris
Anthony Toribio
Jake O’Connell
Gabe Miller
I think Piscitelli makes the team
He’s gotta conform to the new coaching staff and last night he seemed more under control and disciplined
How many IR guys get cut....
I’m thinking they would really have to like you to keep guys on IR, especially those with a history. Somehow Battle is the last man in again, I’m thinking.
So, because I'm too lazy to figure it out on my own...
In your scenario, is Rodney Hudson our only backup interior lineman?
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Not unless someone magical pops up in waivers.
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by Falcon58 on Sep 2, 2011 12:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well...
Our depth is pretty garbage. So it would make some sense to turn over the bottom of the roster.
Well the issue is that unlike in preseason
We won’t have mass substitutions of garbage. The good players and vets will make up for the drop off that occurs when one piece needs to be replaced for a short while. The lack of depth on here is way overblown. Guys are backups for a reason, it’s because they aren’t good enough to be starting
Agreed
Completely. I’m not saying it’s panic time, but we do have inferior depth to, at the very least, the other teams we played this pre-season.
I think fans tend to fall in love with our young players and see ‘potential’ that often isn’t there.
I am hoping we pick up at least 2 or 3 players in the next week.
you know though
its great to have too worry about depth and not every starter
My cut or IR list...We add two from other team, and fill our PS from here as well.
Verran Tucker, Jeremy Horne, David Mims, Butch Lewis, Lucas Patterson, Darryl Harris, Mike Ingersoll, Chris Harr, Leonard Pope, Jake O’Connell, Anthony Becht, Terrance Copper, Zeke Markshausen, Tyler Palko, Jackie Battle, Amon Gordon, Harold Ayodele, Dion Gales, Brandon Bair, Amara Kamara, Micah Johnson, Gabe Miller, Travis Daniels, Demond Washington, Jalil Brown, Sabby PIscitelli, Ricky Price, Anthony Toribio
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Im pretty sure Tyler Palko will make the 2nd QB
by Stanzi_City_Chiefs on Sep 2, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Jalil Brown
Why do you have him on that list?
Also, you cut all the TEs except for Moeaki and Slate. You think Pope gets cut?
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I guess they really dont know what their talking about
by Stanzi_City_Chiefs on Sep 2, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
The way the TEs are playing...
I think they do get cut and then we sign a FA or two. They put two on the PS. If Moeaki is hurt then they keep Pope. I don’t think he makes it if Moeaki is fine. With the full backs blocking two RB sets they will rotate the TE and only have two active at the game. Pope doesn’t show the fire to make it.
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Well there are a lot of players
it gets confusing I think… that’s why I am not gonig to make a cut list.
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It will be Daniels or Lawerence
but its possible the keep Lawerence and work one of those into the saftey rotation. Doubt it though.
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 2, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
its funny
How my argument all preseason was how bad were playing and how its going to carry over to the regular season. Why isn’t everyone saying ohh its just preseason don’t worry, now look at everyone, now were worried, well don’t be shocked when we get thumped by buffalo.
by KCman66 on Sep 2, 2011 10:44 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed, but if they lose to Buffalo it is going to get wild around here.
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If we lose to Buffalo
We’re looking at a 5 win season…so it’ll mostly just be depressing around here.
Sure
It’s clearly the easiest game on a brutal schedule, we lose it, and we may be lucky to get to 5 wins.
It’s not that it’s impossible to win 10 games after losing to Buffalo, it’s just highly unlikely.
If we were opening up @ NE a loss wouldn’t mean near as much.
I see the Chiefs losing the first game...
Then getting their act together, and start to play like a competent/good team. So I don’t think a ten win season after a Buffalo loss is that unlikely.
Why isn’t everyone saying ohh its just preseason don’t worry
Because that’s not what this thread is about? For the record, I still don’t put any stock in preseason wins/losses, and I doubt I ever will.
Anyway, can I officially put you down for, “Chiefs get thumped by Buffalo in week 1?”
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Urban, Richardson, Studebaker, and Belcher
Are guys I dont like seeing in the starting slots of the depth chart.
by JC25FoMVP on Sep 2, 2011 10:50 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
too bad
Week 1 I bet they all start… Now that will change, but not week 1 IMO
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i honestly think Breaston should start
Until Baldwin comes back and then Dex stays at slot. It would still be a huge upgrade from last year especially considering how most of us wanted Breaston as the number 2 before we drafted Baldwin
by JC25FoMVP on Sep 2, 2011 11:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess Breaston could start
I just don’t think he will IMO. I think Haley rewards people have been there and even though he is a Breaston guy, Breaston is still new… I could be wrong.
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Breaston pre season
4 games 6 catches 34 yards boy what a electrifying wr we signed and he’s the head of the class of free agent signings
He's been injured and has a history
We’re working him in slowly
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by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 2, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I think
They will Cut Battle
And use 7 wr + Dex until baldwin is ready to be on the field. They will use that time to see what Colbert can do, and weather they want to keep him or Cooper.
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 2, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I like Belcher on early downs.
The only thing he really struggles with is pass coverage in the middle of the field. He’s great against the run and well above average in pass rushing.
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by GenericBrand on Sep 2, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
How many DL would they usually keep?
I know it has been asked before but I don’t remember and I would like to see Bair make the 53.
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by ChiefsFan4Life634 on Sep 2, 2011 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
This is one thing I hate
There are going to be a lot of people cut and then other teams will pick up the guys that were cut. The typical response is, well why do you want him he was cut so clearly he is awful.
I hate that response. There can be many reasons behind why the guy was cut, none that connects to how they will preform on a new team. Let it play out if we get some guys that were cut from another team w/o saying “well something must be wrong b/c he was cut”
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by SwimCoach on Sep 2, 2011 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
lance briggs wants a trade
I would give a 2nd round pick up to have a top 10 linebacker core
by JC25FoMVP on Sep 2, 2011 11:13 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
hes only 30 btw
U could get 4 great years out of him
by JC25FoMVP on Sep 2, 2011 11:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know.
I’m not one of those who feels that linebacker is a huge need, but I guess I wouldn’t get terribly upset if Pioli made that trade.
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Drew Rosenhaus is his agent, and this is his 2nd time Briggs has done this
Doubt we scoop him up.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 2, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I'd be absolutely shocked if we made the trade.
I’m just saying I trust Pioli enough that, if he made it, I wouldn’t condemn it as a terrible move.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Last time Pioli brought in a 4-3 stud linebacker from Chicago to play in his 3-4
It didn’t turn out so hot.
*See Rosie Colvin in New England
I hate Richardson too
But I don’t think he will be cut. We just don’t have any depth at that position. Remember a couple of years ago when they kept Damion MacIntosh up until the final cut? Then we had to scramble and give a draft pick away to the Dolphins for Ndukwe and Callahan?
That right side was terrible all season. This situation isn’t all that different. Gaither may beat him out, but they don’t want to start the season like that again. That right side was a revolving door for the first half of the season. I hated nobody on this team more than Damien MacIntosh this past decade, but I even missed him. We were awful on the right side all year. I say we keep him around a bit longer and see if Gaither gets his job, and look for and develop more depth through free agency and the draft.
I think even if they keep Richardson
We have a problem, keeping all tackles healthy.
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 2, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Richardson is probably a top 5 backup tackle in the league.
He’s too valuable to let go. He’s a borderline starting quality player who is extremely good in run blocking who can play both sides of the line. Guys like that aren’t a dime a dozen.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 2, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
The trade was actually for Ndukwe and Andy Alleman
O’Callaghan was a FA signing after being cut by the Patriots, but I see your point.
The year I worked at Arrowhead for my first job ever, the Chiefs were 8-0 at home. I think that the Kansas City Chiefs should pay me to go to the games so they always win
It sucks because
The 26th and 27th players you cut are probably guys that could contribute.
Good thing is that some teams cuts will be better then who we currently have…so Pioli needs to be on his toes and swoop in like an owl at night.
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
One things for sure
the sky is falling.. oh my, aren’t the clouds pretty when they are at your feet?
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 2, 2011 11:27 AM CDT reply actions
I think they took the wrong approach with Barry Richardson and Andy Studebaker.
We had three questionable starters on this team headed into the offseason in Studebaker, Belcher and Richardson. All three are young, all three are developing players and all three are at the point where their development curve is either going to go up or flatline.
I loved the move that they made to bring in Siler to compete with Belcher even though it didn’t work out perfectly because of the unexpected injury. The key was the thought process behind it. Bring in a guy who’s on par(or nearly on par) with the guy that’s a questionable starter and let the competition help with both players development and in turn improve the starter and depth at that position. But for some reason they didn’t do that with BRich or Studebaker. Both Stude and Richardson were basically handed the starting job and you can tell and not in a good way.
There’s no specific RT competition behind Richardson although if Gaither works out he could be slotted there(played alot of snaps there last night but clearly struggled with the footwork reversal). Richardson’s play this year has dropped off and I think it’s because of the lack of competition.
Studebaker is an awful early down SOLB. I know alot of people around here like him and he’s easy to cheer for because he’s a good character/high effort guy but he’s terrible in any running situation. Even worse is the additional playing time seems to be negatively affeting what he was actually good at before which was third down passing situations. This is where Haley’s attitude about veterans and Crennels attitude about wanting guys who do things right is going to cost us. Being high effort and doing everything technically right is great but it doesn’t necesarily make for good results. There’s two younger guys on the roster who are clearly already better then him but they won’t get the opportunity to show it. The only thing saving that side of the field from being a big gaping hole for oppsing teams running games is the best open field tackling CB in the game and the best young SS in the game.
I’m hoping the staff at least brings in a veteran player to compete at SOLB to take some snaps away from Andy and split time with him or we need to unleash Sheffield and Houston and let them learn on the fly like we’ve done with other players.
What’s even more concerning about the SOLB situation is the development of the guy in front of that spot. TJax was starting to come on but having a weakness at SOLB is forcing him to compensate and go outside of his duties to make up for that weakness. That’s affecting his play and his consistency which we can’t afford because we need all three guys on that dline to be effective to have any chance at a good defense this year.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Stude has to hold off the other teams TEs
And he can’t even do that.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 2, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
our new RT is gaither not B rich
Mims makes the roster, not a practice squad player he will get snagged other wise by some team
i think everyone is mistaken
remember last yr?? we had one of the best olines in the league!! look at the stats: cassel was sacked like 14 times, and we had the best running game in the league. that doesnt happen with a bad oline, no even with an average oline. we had an above average line and this yr we’re going to be even better. with the addition of asamoah replacin waters, and the eventual addition of gaithers in the lineup, being in lt or rt. its gonna be an elite oline!! so stop complaining, and believe in our coaches and gm. i believe the chiefs could win between 9-11 games, and that should be enough to get in the playoffs. we’ll see

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