Stay Classy Kansas City
by upamtn on Sep 19, 2011 8:44 PM CDT
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PrintAs we're all too painfully aware, the Chiefs were handed a brutal loss over the weekend by an up and coming Detroit Lions team. It wasn't pretty. In fact, it was downright ugly, and the final score or 48-3 was perhaps the least of it all when you consider that the Chiefs also lost Jamaal Charles for the season with an ACL tear.
So what can one do? What can one say? Not much, as no amount of hand-wringing or finger-pointing will ever change the outcome. What one CAN do, however, is admit that our Cheifs aren't as good as we'd like them to be and move on with our heads held high, knowing that it can only get better. I mean, it has to, right?
And with that duly acknowledged, we say "Congratulations, Lions" and move on with humility and grace and class. And that leads to this ... some thoughts and words of wisdom from Lions fans themselves. Fans of a team that not too long ago suffered through an agonizing 0-16 season. Fans who've held their heads high and supported their team through some bad time, indeed, through the worst season any fan could imagine. If they can do it, we can do it ... however bad it gets, however dark at the end of the tunnel, a few words of wisdom to remember from some very classy people ...
Great guys - Thank you Chiefs fans We appreciate talking football, without all the smack talking and anger. At least you know that with our past, we know how you are feeling (both about losing and about losing players to injury). Realize that our happiness is not at your expense, but at finally having a good team after many years of pain. You guys have been great this week. Lions-fan-SLC
Everyone at Arrowhead Pride Are classy guys who know their football. There was no bashing, no bias. All in all one of the better communities at SBNation. Thanks for the great insight guys, good luck with the rest of the season detpistons3
Most definitely the classiest, knowledgable fans I've had the pleasure of talking with. Good luck with your season, I hope it turns around somehow. Bighaircut
oh upamtn, I forgot to mention Despite how elated I am over this victory, and I am elated. If I could have a wish to make Charles not have been injured but the cost was the game result was reversed in the score? I’d make that trade off without a thought. I’m devistated for Jamaal. Of course my sorrow is with the team and the fans :( Ee Oulo
First class man What can I say I’m happy for my team but I never like to see players get hurt. On my fantasy team or not Jammal is an elite player. Fingers are crossed for him. I already heard the dreaded ACL today. Good luck gong forward guys I hate the injurys its part of the game and as Lions fans well all know about those dreaded things. Hope you guys can get something going this year. Thanks for being a class act and respectful the entire week. Till we meet again KC….till we meet again. The Profiler
Classy By far you and the rest of AP have been classy to the core. Speaking of class, this is when your chiefs will really show it. Charles, Berry and Moekaki all out with injuries is devastating and I feel for you. However, without adversity we can never fully appreciate victory. Its right now when you find what your team and your fans are made of. If the chiefs are half as classy as the people I enjoyed chatting with at AP this week, they will find a way to overcome and the victories will be even sweeter. I dont often root for non-Lions teams, but Ill be watching the Chiefs this season and Cheering my ass off. Good luck Chiefs. Leonuro
Class. Grace. Humility. Pride. Respect.
Stay Classy, Kansas City!
Geaux Chiefs!
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And my vote: Yes. We may not have our same 10-6 Chiefs as last year, but we can at least have our class.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
by KeepItCopacetic on Sep 19, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
thak you, Keep ... totally agree!
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
And our pride.
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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by nateforchiefs on Sep 19, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
no poll
this one isn’t up for debate … just say classy :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Classy is exactly what you say to a fanbase of a team who just shit kicked
Pity from a team who just went 0-16 is worse than losing.
by craig in calgary on Sep 19, 2011 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
no pity there, craig
besides … imagine the comments if it had been the Raiders?
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We would deserve
everyone of those comments from the Raiders. I dont wanna get called classy. I wanna win. Our Football team is a joke right now. This Kumbaya hand holding shit is absurd. There was nothing positive from that win, and having posters from a team that just stomped our ass into the turf tell us we are classy does not make me feel any better. Everyone in the NFL Could hate us and if we won a Superbowl, AFC Championship or God forbid a single playoff game I would laugh in there face as they cussed us out. Im not here to be friends. Im here to read about the Football team I love and is currently a JOKE. No one remembers sportsmanship. The only remember championships
"You guys line up alphabetically by height."
--Bill Peterson
by Big_Chief on Sep 20, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
IMHO, Mr. Big......you couldn't be more wrong.
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
Oh well
I rec’d him. I echo everything he says.
by craig in calgary on Sep 20, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Big Chief ... I didn't say or even impy that anyone should be HAPPY with the losses or all puffed up proud of the way the team has played ... it's been pathetic and I'll be the first to admit that
and guess what, I’d like the Chiefs to win too … I know you might not believe that, but it’s true, that’s also part of being a fan (well, except those who want the team to lose because they’re Suckers for The College QB Who Shall Not Be Named, but that’s another story and we won’t go there right now)
however, if all you have on your agenda is “championship” and you have no place for “sportsmanship” then perhaps you should reconsider what’s really important in your life … look at the very word, sportsmanship … see that first part? s-p-o-r-t-s … yeah, like football is a sport … you can’t have one without the other if you’re doing it right
watch the next game carefully, especially at the end: the players shake ands with each other … it happens in football, baseball, basketball, tennis, volleyball and tiddlywinks … it’s called being human, Big Chief
just something to consider
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Please don't bring
the you need to look at yourself in the mirror argument into this. You miss the point completely. Am I supposed to be pleased with my team because they shook hands at the end of a game or saved a puppy dog? I think you want your team to win, but I also think you will accept mediocrity. I am done accepting it. We are 30 million under the cap. Have a Terrible Dline, A mediocre at best Oline, Our secondary can’t cover and worst of all we have A QB who Absolutly shatters under pressure, cant look of his first read, has a noodle for an arm and cant throw it accuratly past 5 or 7 yards. Wanting to win and doing the right things too win are different. They should be “sporting” because they get paid 30 million dollars to do so. I don’t pay for sportsmanship. I pay for a competative football team. Without a QB we will be just mediocre to terrible and Nothing more.
"You guys line up alphabetically by height."
--Bill Peterson
well, you're now 0-for-2 Big Chief
1) try again, look at what I said just above, concentrate on the Bold Print Type
2) the post itself refers not to the team, but to fans …
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
We're 30 million under the cap?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I wish to thank the fans of Buffalo and Detroit
They have always been classy.
Good Stuff Ups
Course I want to kick their teams butt when we meet again :)
agreed, Steve ... awesome fans both places
and we SHOULD want to kick some butt when we meet again :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
There's a certain degree of class one must have to have remained a Lions or, to a lesser extent, Bills fan all this time
QB Garrett Gilbert was the Beavis & Butthead episode of the 2010 college football season. Even when things were going well there was always one bad decision that meant he wasn’t going to score.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1070636.html
by burntorangehorn on Sep 19, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
ty!
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Ups, you're keeping AP classy
Most have thrown in the towel, and no, it doesn’t look like this will be a season we can celebrate, but we can at least be big boys and girls about it. Thanks for posting this.
Huzzah! Fantasy football has returned, allowing me to slap my opponents (family members) across the face with my favorite pair of white satin gloves. En garde, monkeys!
my pleasure, Gentry ... and thank you!
keep the faith, and hold on to the towel … we can wave it when we play the Chargers :-)
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Ups my brother;
You had me at “stay”.
Truly grinning ear to ear. With a tram like the lions, I could not wish Ill will upon them. They have been the laughing stock for ages. Glad you represented to the fullest as well as other APers.
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Sep 19, 2011 9:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
thank you muchly, Mas! and hey, about that beatdown you gave me yesterday ...
you owe me a drink! :-)
yeah, those Lions fans have had it rough for WAY too long, good to see them getting some good times and a good team
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
We will definetley have to arrange that my friend
Blue label amongst friends
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Sep 19, 2011 9:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
nice ... looking forward to it :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
What's wrong wit' y'all?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CZ-ICxcEYg
QB Garrett Gilbert was the Beavis & Butthead episode of the 2010 college football season. Even when things were going well there was always one bad decision that meant he wasn’t going to score.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1070636.html
by burntorangehorn on Sep 19, 2011 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
ha! send that to Haley!!! :-)
props orangeman
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
BTW- Ups
It wasn’t my intent to run the score on ya this week in FF. Cam newton is a shocker for me
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Sep 19, 2011 9:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
nope, too late ... what, you think I'm gonna shake your hand now? (grinning ear to ear)
Dude, he’s a surprise to just about everyone right now … glad he’s doing well by ya
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
It was really nice to see some of the Lions fans on AP this last week.
It was fun and insightful. They engendered some interesting discussions and did an admirable job of being respectful while dealing with AP’s bipolarism. I really appreciated it.
yeah they did! had a blast ... great people, great fans, total class
bipolarism … heh, yeah we can swing both ways, can’t we? (and get your mind outta the gutter … I know what you’’re thinking, ya perv!)
thanks for the comment, tides :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Thank you for this!!
Rec’d for sure. So glad there are fans with my mindset too, even despite my doubts, I have worked through them.
thank you so much, christian! oh, I think even the most loyal of us have doubts right now, but still ... we're fans, and the Chiefs are our team ... nuff said :-)
btw, someone was mentioning a need for more “therapy” in another thread earlier … looks like you have your work cut out for you again this week … ot’s all good, man!
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Sep 19, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I may wear Honolulu Blue
But if you cut me, do I not bleed red? :)
Stay Classy, Chiefs fans.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
ha! thank you, Mav! you and all the rest of the community at Pride of Detroit are greatly appreciated
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Thanks, Upamtn.
Every week when we have a bad week, especially horrific ones like these I think of the worst, I probably, unfortunately, think the bad things like a large number of AP like, Suck For Luck, Get Haley out and etc… Then you come around with your head-on-straight, smart, ideal posts and it all comes together and makes sense. I would go nuts on AP if it wasn’t for you putting my head back on every week, haha :)
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me? head on straight? must have me confused with Steve ir BJ ;-)
thank you, Nate, I appreciate the kind words … sometimes I think we ALL need to call a “time out” and reflect on how lucky we really are to even have the Chiefs at all :-)
stay classy, Nate, but stay hungry for the good things like wins … they’ll come, all in due time, all in due time …
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
thank you muchly, kind Sir
much appreciated … you’re pretty classy yourself :-)
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I never want to lose my pride.
All those Chief “fans” out there rooting to lose all our games so we get the # 1 pick are not Chief fans. True fans never root for their teams to lose, true fans never root for their teams starting QB to get hurt. That second is truly sick and disgusting and I’ve lost a lot of faith in some AP’ers because of it.
Thanks Ups for helping to remind us of who we are and who we are supposed to be.
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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you got it, nate ... good or bad times, the Chiefs are our team
thanks for the props, nate!
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Those are some sick people. Sick in the head.
Any chance I get to post a Jim Mora clip is a good day. Seriously, if Haley would have a Mora-like flip out, this would all be easier to take. I mean, the Chiefs can’t do diddly-poo…
better mora video
I realize no one is reading this thread anymore but I have to post a better version of that Jim Mora rant. Seriously, I’m in such a dark place right now, Jim Mora clips are helping me get through this. The “playoffs??” one is too easy, though I will find an appropriate time to post that one too.
Rec'd and very classy Ups!
I especially like the comments you’ve included from the Lions fans since I wasn’t able to keep up in AP while out of town from the 10th thru late Sat and only able to catch the 4th quarter of yesterday’s game.
I followed the score updates on my BB app and then was finally able to start catching up on AP last night. As a lifelong Chiefs fan who’s suffered through a lot of stinky years, I’m amazed at the volume of people (including sportscasters & wannabe s-c’s) screaming off with their heads after 2 ugly losses. I for one remember Lamar’s knee-jerk firing of Marv Levy after a bad season in a strike-shortened year…and Marv then taking the Bills to the big one 4 times after that.
We all knew & talked a lot about it going into this season that this is a young Chiefs team still in a rebuilding phase that has at least another year or two before they’ll be actual contenders. Add to that a lockout situation that’s new to everyone (and its affects for each team won’t be clear until the end of the season) and a much tougher schedule, and this start is not a surprise.
Seriously, I tend to think this is probably the best thing that could’ve happened to this team at this point. It’s sure to puncture any egos that puffed up after last year and will definitely show who’s willing to step up and not. How one reacts to defeat is much more important than how they respond to success. This will separate the chaff and determine who on this team has the character and drive to step up to the challenge with discipline, leadership and true team effort.
I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...
@WorL4Chiefs...Eyes on the prize!
…just HOPING we can see MAJOR positives from the team’s play within the first half of the season, starting with @SD!
Props to upamtn for this writeup, and def more props for your funny comments during these tough two weeks haha!
thanks urod , appreciate the props!
yah, feels a lot better to laugh than it does to cry … and the way it’s been so far it’s simply too absurd NOT to laugh
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
welcome home, girl ... sorry you had to come back to THAT game, but hey ... just as your name says: win or lose ... major props! :-)
that Levy firing was partly because Marv openly sided with the players during the strike (or so I heard) … shame that he paid for it with his job, but always admired what he did with the Bills
hang in there … we know it’s not always a smooth as silk ride, we’ll get there in time
my nick: up a mountain … just like life, we’re all climbing to the top in our own way, at our own speed … enjoy the journey and the spectacular views, and if you stumble and fall, get right back up and keep on truckin’ to the top
I agree this team may have needed something like this … wet’s see how much charagter they have now … and wouldn’t a win this weekend be doubly sweet? (yes it would!)
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
thank you, jcox! perspective: I woke up on the right side of the ground this morrning ... it's a beautiful day already :-)
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Great Post Ups.
The lions fan was correct. This is as much a test of the fans as it is a test of the team. One good thing that comes from this is that it will weed out the real fans from the fair weather fans. I have been through this before. I have been a Spurs fan since I was old enough to watch. We went through some hard times for years before we were finally “good”. I am in the same situation with the Chiefs, and I expect the same results.
"If ifs mattered, everyone would be undefeated." Enite
I agree, Enite ... and as much as we all want the team to show some character and fighting spirit, I want the same from fellow Chiefs fans
thanks for the props!
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Thanks Ups.
I haven’t been around AP almost at all since I left for KC before the season opener. Way too busy running around for different things, and then after the Bills game I knew I wasn’t going to be able to stand reading the freak-outs, I don’t deal well with the “sky is falling” types or those that tend to pick up on negative points and make them the core of everything. It was really nice to see this post, even if it nearly got lost in the midst of all the rest. On the positive side there, I think the rec I gave it should push it over into the “recommended fanposts” list.
Keep up the good work man.
oh Archyrr ... the sky and the heavens and the whole universe came close to exploding yesterday ... but it's all good
we have a team to cheer for, best of times or worst of times … thanks for the rec, man, and keep the faith, brighter days are ahead
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Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Rec'd my friend, Mr. Ups........................
………………………. These type people with class and humility, I am drawn to. There are good people rooting for all sports teams (maybe not the Raiders) ; )
In life it is so easy to be “bad” or hurtful, arrogant, or just plain mean. There is so much evil in the world that it takes a real courageand strength to be “good” , thoughtful and CLASSY!
Keep it up KC / AP…………………….My hat is off to you all!
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
Masons, you are the very epitome of class, grace and humility ... thank you, Sir ... your friendship, limited as it may be online here, means a lot to me
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Eh, I prefer the path of degenerate
But good post nonetheless.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
ha! thanks, ya sicko ;-)
keep the faith, Spread!
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
thank you, ScreenName!
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
You should always strive to be a "classy" person
That said, I’m not sure what this post is expecting from the fans.
Are you asking us to accept losing, or are you simply imploring us to be nice to each other? I would suggest many people on this blog are in desperate need of that regardless of how this team performs. Indeed it would be much better if this post was about the correct way to conduct yourself period.
To the point, if you are suggesting the fans should embrace the franchise at this particular moment, I will argue that has nothing to do with class. The relationship between fan and team cannot be a one-way street; we expect something in return.
It would take far too long, and ultimately accomplish nothing, to try to discuss what any given fan wants in return. I feel it is reasonable to say most fans simply want a competitive team, and that is not asking too much. Therein the problem lies.
This season we are not competitive – exactly the opposite. Well at least we have specific players we can follow to still make it interesting – but they are dropping like flies. What’s left? Staying classy?
You should stay classy in all aspects of your life, but conversations of the Chiefs this year should yield nothing short of "disappointing" and "unacceptable." It has nothing to do with class.
However, it has everything to do with $27 parking. Any ticket priced over $50. Not seeing good, competitive football from your favorite team (win/loss be damned). Wondering what in the hell this team has to do to get a break. And finally, asking why the fans should accept what we’ve been through this decade. You list pride above, and I’d argue this is exactly why you do not just accept things like this and move on.
I, for one, will not simply sit here and be a pushover in the name of "class."
I’ll still wear my Chiefs gear everywhere I go. I’ll still claim them as my team.
I’ll also call them out when they need to be, and I’ll expect something in return for my loyalty and my support – it’s a two-way street.
By all means stay classy – why wouldn’t you – but don’t confuse that with blind homerism, because they are not the same thing.
It is true things can get better, even this season, but in the meantime you should be outraged and angry over what you have witnessed since pre-season.
Ask yourself how classy it is that this organization hasn’t won a playoff game since Montana, has never produced a franchise quarterback, and has produced some of the teams its fielded over the past decade.
Ask yourself how classy it is that a 10-6 team ruins the entire football season (one that almost didn’t even exist no less) for their fans because they can’t even be competitive.
What did we get in return? Price increases? What exactly?
Be a good person. Be classy in your approach to people. However, there IS a time for every purpose under heaven. Treat people with respect, no question, but call out your team with frustration, emotional outbursts, etc when they deserve it (unless your ticket was free or you get free cable/satellite I guess – or you just enjoy losing).
Otherwise things don’t change and you risk being nothing more than a classy loser. No thanks.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Sep 20, 2011 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
solid points...........
However I think you,re missing the point Mr. Ups was IMO trying to convey. He was really just pointing out, on this post, how other fan sites can engage in friendly banter about our teams and matchups. Without all the trash talk and meanspiritedness (if that’s even a word) :)
Also it’s not a sky is falling post. This is going to sound scary and it freaking me out a bit, but Ups and I think a lot alike. ; )
Keep your chins up KC and step away from the ledge.
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by Masons on Sep 20, 2011 1:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I did not see anywhere in ups post
where anyone was asked to condone anything this organization has done, nor was anyone asked to accept losing & happily sit along through it.
What I DID read throughout the post was a reminder, to not let getting our tails kicked, allow us to forget our intelligent debate / discourse, or our respect for ourselves and others.
Sometimes suffering through humiliation at the hands of your own team can derail your classic way of thinking and debate; I saw this as a reminder to keep your head up & on straight.
Did NOT read this as a plea for anyone to condone the organization’s decisions or losing.
Just the way I read it though…
Rec’d for you Ups.
8/31/09 Haley's office: "Sorry Chan, we have to let you go, no hard feelings."
9/11/11 Midfield Arrowhead Stadium: "No hard feelings at all Todd."
by Lucky777Luciano on Sep 20, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you, Lucky ... you and Masons said it very well, much appreciate the support!
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Rags, I understand your disappointment in the team, we're ALL disappointed ... but you said it yourself: you're still a fan, as we all are
as for the rest" Masons and Lucky said it better than I could … head up and keep the faith, and remember: the LEAST we should expect is entertainment, and that much we get … winning? hopefully sooner rather than later, but win or lose we can keep our heads and hearts in the right place … and keep wearing our red
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I’m glad you took the time to clarify your point
However I’m having a hard time seeing where anyone was able to identify the original intention you claim.
You gave examples of fans from another team "being classy" in the wake of not only winning, but literally destroying the other team. This in no way demonstrates what you claim your intentions were. Now if you were to give examples of fans "taking the high road" after watching their team destroyed, what you claim you’re doing would start to show itself. It doesn’t.
In fact two quotes you chose serve to illustrate precisely what I’m taking issue with – hanging in there and supporting the team through such difficult times. Indeed, the few words of your own you chose to include say literally nothing about being nice to each other, trash talk, meanspiritedness, intelligent debate/discourse nor respect for ourselves and others.
Instead your words are of the "rah rah" and "keep your head up" variety, backed with examples of the same ilk. Now within the quotes you chose, several of them do acknowledge their appreciation of our classy fans, but all this ultimately does is serve to illustrate we are already indeed "staying classy," so my original question of what this post is expecting from the fans is warranted.
I then look at your post history and I see this same sort of "rah rah" attitude expressed there, and I see further evidence of it within the replies to this very thread (where you happily receive praise for staying positive). Hold on, is this post about staying classy or staying positive? Is it both? If both I agree with the former and vehemently disagree with the latter.
There is nothing positive about this season, and you saying differently doesn’t suddenly make it so. Likewise being a "negative nancy" doesn’t mean everyone should agree with my feelings, but conveying the message I am somehow classless because I remain negative about the situation is ridiculous and asinine.
I stand by my original reply. Show me one place where your own words address interaction with other people. Show me a single example of someone conducting themselves with class after an utter thrashing (I’ll assume the Lion’s fans appreciation of our fans is what you were going for, but that’s not the same). Show me anywhere above an example of a Chiefs fan demonstrating lack of class. You can’t because it isn’t there.
What is there, again, is this mantra of "stay positive in the face of suck." That has nothing to do with class, and it is my strong opinion we should be doing exactly the opposite as fans. Notice I understand this is my own opinion.
The only place I find any evidence of this “class” is in the quotes where these fans give kudos for being so. If this is the crux of the thread, you were better served to take the angle of praising Chiefs fans for BEING classy, because that is what your quotes support. Instead you chose to say “stay classy,” as if somehow we weren’t already, and backed this sentiment with a “stay positive or you have no class” attitude.
Also notice the people agreeing with you, by and large, are agreeing to stay positive. That’s fine. I’m happy all of you agree. However, do not treat me as if I suffer from a lack of reading comprehension and attempt to explain how I missed the point. No offense to those who tried, but you need to understand you’re simply agreeing to stay positive, not classy – they aren’t the same thing. There is simply no evidence to support what you claim to have read in this post. Again, if it read “Here are some examples of what we want fans from other teams to say about us when they kick our ass” then the point would have been made. It wasn’t.
It is a thinly veiled plea to stay positive in the guise of staying "classy."
I call foul sir. I treat everyone with respect until they give me a reason not to. That said, there is absolutely nothing positive about this season thus far, and fans should be absolutely outraged. If you see it differently, fine. You need to just say that.
Don’t ask me to see what isn’t there, both in this post and with this team so far.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Sep 21, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Rags, you make some excellent points here ...
my intent (and apologies if it wasn’t as clear as it should have been) was indeed to “take the high road” … not only last week but the week before I saw far too many here on AP dismissing the Bills and Lions as being very beatable … in essence, our own form of “trash talk”
that said, as I;ve mentioned to others in theis thread: I’ve never said or implied that anyone should be “happy” with the Cheifs play this year
take from it all what you will
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I really appreciate your time sir
I’m glad you took the time to have this conversation with me. You truly are classy in that sense, and I also appreciate that you remain positive in the face of adverse circumstances. I’m simply not like that.
Further, I’m extremely upset at this organization at the moment. Therefore even the idea of giving them a semblance of a pass is not going to happen. The fans should be up in arms over what we’ve witnessed since preseason.
I will admit my own bias undoubtedly clouded how I read this post and what I took from it. I’m simply well past any “rah rah team” perspective, and I refuse to called classless for my feelings.
If this was never your intention I apologize for taking it so. Like in politics, I don’t care for the “spinning” of issues. I’m a Missouri farm boy and I know how to use the brain I was born with.
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by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Sep 21, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
props right back atcha, Rags
oh, I’m not at all happy with the play of the team … no excuses on that and I’ve made no bones about it: right now they’re playing HORRIBLY
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Yeah, it really could be worse!
We could actually have one of those 65 Republican/Tea Party lunatics, that were on stage the other night, with a comb- ined IQ 3 points less than a ferrett, who refused to say that they wouldn’t just let the uninsured die (that would piss off the Tea Party if they were to support not allowing people to die, who may take some money from our Federal Government)., and who would rather insure that all of the millionaires and billionairres can hide their money overseas and export jobs, than to even think of helping the almost extinct middle class, and the small businresses who still employ the vast majority of Americans, and also want to eliminate a program that is self -supporting, and doesn’t cost the Government a dime (Social Security). I could go on and on, but Iguess in the scheme of things, that is still more important than the Kansas City Chief’s record, especially for me, as if one of them win, I will move and support the Toronto Argonauts.
There once was a man from Nantucket......Nevermind.
hey, the Argonauts are pretty good ... thanks Racy
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Ummm...
I think AP is the wrong forum for a political rant. Let’s keep it “all things Chiefs”…(and I don’t mean Commander-In-Chief)
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Should of been a main page UPS!
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Those that wish potentially fatal diseases or other ill-fortunes on others, are the LOWEST form of trash!
wow, thank you, crash! much appreciated :-)
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I'm just going to say
2011 is the beginning of our rebuilding “decade”…;P
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Sep 20, 2011 2:17 PM CDT reply actions
I hope it's a FAST decade :-)
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Not sure if I agree totally with Detroit fans being classy...
Take a look at the SBNation Detroit site, on Mayhew rejecting Pioli’s handshake after the game—most likely because Pioli filed those tampering charges, which were substantiated. Not a single comment on that thread was positive or classy—most of them were gloating and congratulating the Lions for running up the score. So…
Mayhew isn't "the fans" any more than Pioli is "a fan" ...
all I know for sure is that in dealings with those fans myself, here on Arrowhead Pride or over on Pride of Detroit, they were nothing but respectful, humble and totally classy … sorry your experience has been less than that
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I wanna say a couple things to respond to that.
1) SBNation Detroit isn’t where the Lions fans hang out, Pride of Detroit is! We accept no responsibility for whatever red wing/tigers/pistons/bandwagon fans make an ass out of themselves over there.
2) Let’s be real about the tampering charges. They were substantiated in the sense that we lost the appeal, but how often has anyone won an appeal against the NFL? Players get fined for legal hits and the appeals process is routinely shown to be a joke. The Lions office has maintained that there was no tampering and neither KC nor the League has shown what the tampering was. I believe my front office when they say they didn’t do anything, and you believe your front office when they say we did — it’s called being supportive of the organization, and it has nothing to do with how classy you are.
3) I can’t comment on the “gloating” fact, because I don’t know what you consider to be gloating (celebration over a win?). That said, I have a hard time buying anyone was “congratulating” us for running up the score. More than likely, we were defending the accusations that the score was being run up. What you have us do, run the ball on third and long and punt? We kept drives moving and kept the clock running, it’s your team’s responsibility to stop it, this isn’t high school football.
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by Mavyrk on Sep 21, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
thanks IL ... wait, that's a golf clap :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
thanks AZ ... I know, not easy to take losses like there ... glad I could do something to ease the pain
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I just went out and bought a Tuxedo with a Chiefs emblem
and bought a new flag to raise in my front yard. I just bought a block of tickets for each of the remaining games and plan to hand them out free of charge to anyone who asks. I’m doing my part to stay classy…it really is the best thing a fan can do in times like this. I plan to send a bouquet of roses to the front office and tell those guys how much i really love them. On the card i’ll put “i don’t hold them responsible and i’ll do my part to stay classy”. I know if i stay classy i’ll be in the real fraternity of chiefs fans…true proud and united!!
I think the point didn't have that great an impact on you.
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by KC Conundrum on Sep 20, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
a tux? how cool ... good luck on that prom date
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“I just bought a block of tickets for each of the remaining games and plan to hand them out free of charge to anyone who asks. "
OK, I’m askin’….
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Sep 21, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Hope you don't mind the intrusion, Ups...thought this would fit in perfect here!
Please step away from the ledge AP!
Once again, coming from a NY guy, you might not want to hear my view and that’s fine, I can handle it. I’m a big boy with pretty thick skin, NY can do that to you. Especially the TAXES!!! Since I’m new to The Chief fandom, I never mean any disrespect to any ono here at AP, I have the utmost respect for ALL who roam and troll this site. Here we go, I’ll give you a view from my favorite sport hockey. Once again I apologize…. move on if you don’t like hockey or me using it as a metaphor. I am a life long, diehard NY Ranger fan. Have been since I can remember and I’ve been remembering things for about 40 years now. Some years I remember more than others. FYI the 80s are a blur, for reasons that I won’t get into, for it could get me in trouble if my kids read this, ; ) So most casual sports fans would remember that, The Rangers were in a 54 year Championship drought. (So I’ve been on that ledge many times my friends.) My drought was the 70s, 80s and then 1994 comes around. With the arrival of Mark Messier (Pioli) and all his leadership and championship experience. He became the Messiah and brought The Rangers and I a Stanley Cup!!! It was the one of the best rides of my life. The playoffs were exciting and the exhilaration of it all was unbelievable….THEN…..what do you do next??? After years of saying “next year” we finally had the Cup. Let me tell you folks it was a HUGE downer. The thrill of the chase was gone, as the sign at the Garden read,“Now I can die happy.” AP…its the thrill of the chase not The Championship. Don’t you remember High School? Passing notes to the girl you liked. Asking a friend of yours or hers to see if she liked you. Or finally getting the guts to ask her yourself. Good GOD AP that IS the thrill!!! Please take heart in that fact. Enjoy the ride, have fun. The Championship will come. Believe me The Chiefs are on the rise and heading to the promised land. Just don’t be in a rush, enjoy the thrill of the chase. I am. Cheers, my Brothers and Sisters………….
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LOL..... that really is the ultimate, "thrill of the chase" isn't it!?!
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
"oh, it's not the kill ... it's the thrill of the chase" - Deep Purple, Knocking at Your Backdoor
it most certainly is, Masons … I do want the Chiefs to win, but I dearly love the games (ok, I could do without the blowouts, but hey, so it goes)
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Thanks Ups!
I find myself thinking “I waited 8 months, 5 of it in a lockout, for this?” I must not be alone from reading all the torches and pitchfork posts and responses. No I don’t like what I see on the field either. But I’m not giving in to join the fighting. Hell, I don’t have a clue what needs to be done to see positive results.
You Play to Win the game!!!
thanks, Wichita ... as for your comment line (below) I'm thinking much better football from the team might help considerably :-)
I don’t have a clue what needs to be done to see positive results
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Palm to forehead
D’oh!
You Play to Win the game!!!
by Wichita Chief on Sep 20, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for the kind words
I just wanted to treat the Chiefs the way I wish more ‘fans’ of opposing teams would have treated us during the worst of the bad days. Yeah, you can have bad games or bad years or even many bad years in a row – trash talking it just seems…unclassy.
You guys have been great. Keep your heads up – you won’t sink anywhere near our worst depths.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
thank YOU!
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nice suit ... yup, classy for sure ;-)
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Say what you want about Chiefs fans...
At least we’re not Raiders fans….
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Sep 21, 2011 12:09 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
+53
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Now carry this over
By supporting your time
By not booing them at home, even when they do horrible
By not rallying to “suck for luck”
Please K.C., Stay Classy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNm2rFzdvW8&feature=related
silence is golden?
thanks, LHO :-)
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Being Postive =/= Being Classy
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by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Sep 21, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I know that full well
and sadly there’s not much to be positive about … that said, we can (and should) remain classy in our dealings with each other and fans of other teams (therein lies the point of the post)
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Booing.
That was one of the things that bothered me most about the Bills game. Hey, I’m not happy with how things were going either, but really? Booing your team at the home opener? That certainly can’t help them in regards to getting pumped up.
Different strokes for different folks im my book
Last I checked, admission wasn’t free. Unless you are very lucky Cable and/or Satellite aren’t free.
Perhaps you are the sort of person who eats a meal in a restaurant despite it being undercooked or otherwise not what you ordered. I’m the type who demands my money back.
To each their own.
Now if these same people are spouting curse words, or attacking fans of the opposing (or same) team – that’s classless.
Booing is the classy way of acknowledging negativity, and there is nothing wrong with it. It is no different than expressing positive feelings (your team scores a touchdown) in a rude and classless way by gloating to fans of the other team.
Being positive/negative has nothing to do with Class, only how you express your feelings. Booing is the least of what this team deserves right now, in my strong opinion. Once you factor in how much they get paid and what we pay to see it – are you kidding me?
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Need edit feature
What I meant to say is how you express your feelings is where class comes in – period.
Booing is VERY different than gloating when your team does well (I worded that wrong above). One is negative while one is positive, but how they are both expressed is the key in my opinion.
And yes, if you haven’t guessed, I’m an extremely negative person. However, I feel I treat people with kindness and respect until they treat me otherwise.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Sep 21, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Mr. Rag.................love the way you express your feelings
………………..IMO this is what makes AP so great. Debating with respect to each others opinions. Great stuff guys!
Booing is not my “cup of tea” but that doesnt mean others can’t. I just feel that 99% of the players are giving all they have, all the time. How can you Boo that? If after the maximum effort…. there are no results, than it’s a management issue.
Cheers, my friends!
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
We agree more than you may realize my friend
We may have different personalities, but I agree booing specific players is only warranted when they fail to give effort or continue to make the same mistakes.
One thing I left out in my original reply was you have to ask yourself who they were booing. In my strong opinion we should be booing the coaches/management at this point in time.
Either way, expecting human beings to be classy equals a life of disappointment. Just know there are many of us in the “negative nelly” club who truly try to keep it classy in our approach to others.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
sad but all too true, Rags
expecting human beings to be classy equals a life of disappointment
ah well, one can at least hope for class … most certainly seeing it from you here, and thank you for that :-)
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My best friend and my wife
Are what I’d describe as “positive Pollys.”
I’m simply the sort of person who dwells on cynics side of the fence, and it’s truly the foundation of my inner strength.
What I’m trying to say is I appreciate those who stay positive – hell I NEED them – but they tend to annoy me. Doesn’t mean I don’t love them, just means I’m the antichrist I guess. Sigh.
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by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Sep 21, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I personally feel differently about booing.
From what I saw, there were many examples of classless fandom that day. A few rows behind me there was a fan screaming expletives about Colquitt having three plays to get ready before he had to punt. He had to be spoken to because there were kids around. He’s just one example I saw and heard, the end result left me a little ashamed of my fellow fans.
I understand booing is some people’s form of expressing their displeasure to the organization. When it’s an official’s call, trust me I’m there booing too. Personally though, I think booing is more likely to have a negative effect than a positive one. Sure, some people hear that sort of thing and are driven to improve. I think more though are discouraged by it though, and the lack of support. Heck, it’s Arrowhead, we’re known for being loud, silence might actually send more of a message than anything else.
That’s just my two cents.
certainly better than throwing things on the field as has happened at some places ...
Booing is the classy way of acknowledging negativity
good point, Rags
Booing is the least of what this team deserves right now, in my strong opinion. Once you factor in how much they get paid and what we pay to see it – are you kidding me?
there is, of course, something to be said for “voting with your feet” or in this case, wallet (not buying a ticket) … but then too, a season ticket holder has little recourse once the ticket has been purchased
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So we play the YO-YO seasons
Last year we had a last place schedule went 10-6 and won the west, this year we have a first place schedule and will most likely not go 6-10, next year we will have another last place schedule and will have our players back (10-6+)…Does anyone see a pattern developing here?
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we're the Microsoft of football
Win 3.1 was very good
Win 95 was very bad
Win 98 was excellent
Win 2000 was horrible
XP was fabulous
Win 7 was the most atrocious platform since the abacus
Vista is pretty good …
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I think you have Vista and 7 backwards there Ups.
Though personally, I didn’t have nearly the problems with Vista as most people. But then, I generally turn off all the new features in a new OS to start with, then test out each one and see what I like. Except for the icon changes, my desktop looks much the same as it has since probably XP. Well, actually with 7 I did make use of most of the changes, but before that it was pretty standardized.
yeah, I do have those two backwards ... ty and duly corrected :-)
to be honest, I still use XP and love it … didn’t even want to THINK about Vista, can’t afford new PC with 7 right now anyway so I’ll stay with my old, outdated XP that continues to do exactly as I need it to do
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Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I figured, I was mostly just curious if there was a segment of people who hated 7 as much or more than Vista.
My laptop with Win 7 was a bit of a splurge purchase. I’d separated from my wife a few months before and quickly realized that with the finances firmly in my control I wasn’t spending nearly the same amount of money. So with my reenlistment bonus installment coming in, and a work trip a few weeks out, I sought out an option for portable computing. At first I was going to go with a netbook, but realized that I wasn’t comfortable with it’s limitations. So for a few hundred more dollars I got a release date Win 7 Asus. The only had three real problems with it in the time since. One appeared to be a software conflict with my mouse/keyboard, the second was a burned out cooling fan from when I accidently left it sitting on the bed. The final thing, and the only problem that remains appears to be a short in the wiring going up to the screen. Just a little bit too much usage wore it out I guess, but it’s an easy fix when I can allot the money to it.
I agree 1000% with what your saying Ups, EXCEPT:
I mean, it has to, right?
Never tempt fate with that question. :)
Rec’d
Rooting for the 2011 KC team to be all it can be...then draft a franchise QB with the #1 pick next year.
LOL mushin ... one would certainly HOPE so!
thank you, my friend :-)
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I'm all for being classy
but judging by half the people i see at arrowhead on game day, i would say it’s a stretch to call chiefs nation classy. I’m a die hard fan, but there is a reason why some of us call it camarohead. To be honest, i actually think it’s kind of a good thing to have a little belligerence as a fan base.
by tasty little guinea pigs on Sep 21, 2011 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
heh ... well, my "message" is/was directed more to AP'ers ... but I hear you
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
For the most part, i do agree with you, just thought i'd throw that out there
by tasty little guinea pigs on Sep 21, 2011 3:41 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, Tasty...........any good recipes for Guinea Pig? I'm bored of the usual, Garlic & Oil ; )
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
by Masons on Sep 21, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and rec'd
gotta have a sense of humor or life just isn’t as funny :-)
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
ha! thanks Prof ...
btw, thanks for the props in that other post … much appreciated … I can’t tell you how much I love learning more about the game just from reading your comments
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
get a room...
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
zing!
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Rec'd
Just so you know. :)
-Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
-"All praise Chiefus."
thanks Old Man from one to another
always good to seeya, glad you’re back :-)
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Ups!!! Don't know if you're around but.......you have to check this out............
……………..Monday- Central Park, NYC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K241IlLWetk
There are things in life that need to be done, seeing this guy “live” is one of them. Please give it your all to do so, you will not be disappointed and I guarantee you WILL be moved.
My son and I took the train into NYC then the subway to The Park. What a great experience and amazing setting for the concert.
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
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