Chiefs Vs. Lions: One Detroit Offensive Player To Remember
I asked SB Nation's Pride of Detroit if there were a sleeper offensive player on the Detroit Lions that us Kansas City Chiefs fans would know by the end of Week 2 and he named TE Brandon Pettigrew, a 2009 draft pick that's had some production (which is rare from that class).
Tight end Brandon Pettigrew quietly had a breakout season in 2010. Despite tearing his ACL on Thanksgiving in 2009, he didn't miss a single game the proceeding season, and he went on to catch 71 passes for 722 yards and four touchdowns. He struggled with drops, but the silver lining is his numbers could have been even better than what they were. If he can limit the high number of drops this year, Pettigrew could go from a reliable tight end to one of the best in the league at the position.
(Note: See, players can come back from ACLs and still be productive)
That's bad news because S Eric Berry, who is solid in coverage against tight ends, is out for the year. The Chiefs are turning to a couple of guys -- S Jon McGraw and S Sabby Piscitelli -- that looked average at best against the Buffalo Bills tight ends last week. The onus is on defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel to devise a game plan that doesn't leave McGraw and Piscitelli exposed, especially down the seam.
Pro Football Focus has the Lions tight ends vs. the Chiefs secondary as one of the three keys to focus on and they're right -- it's going to be a big one, especially on third down.
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FF predicament
I have Pettigrew and Jason Witten.
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No predicatment at all
Witten is a stud who is proven and has a pretty savory matchup himself in an offense that showed it can pass pretty well even against one of the elite defenses last week. Pettigrew has an attractive matchup, but is by no means the stud or mark of consistency Witten has proven to be. Start Witten. I’m starting Jimmy Graham against the Bears eventhough I have Pettigrew on my bench simply because Graham is more of a known commodity.
You can't spell Power without Powe.
Graham is a stud and I wanted that guy
Witten is always a safe pick.
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Graham's value should be even higher for the next few weeks with Colston out
and the rest of the WR corps there banged up. That said, I still think Witten is a better overall prospect. He has two solid WRs outside the hash marks that demand attention, leaving him open in the middle.
You can't spell Power without Powe.
yeah
problem is that he’s a great blocker and that affects him in the red zone, they keep him in to block quite a bit. But he’s solid and always good for 60-70 yards each week. Not a hit or miss guy.
Graham is going to be an absolute stud. I have Colston too and that hurts my team. But having Brady helps.
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call it a hunch but I'd go with Pettigrew
look, we’re gonna be all over Megatron like stink on garbage, right? who’s gonna cover the TE? Langford? McGraw? don’t even say Delitelli cuz we know that ain’t gonna happen …
you must be hungover from the DRUGS ;-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
cant be hungover if you don't stop :)
I think McGraw and Houston will be on Pettigrew.
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sharing is caring, you know
Houston isn’t a cover guy
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
but Pettigrew isn't a big play guy either though
Short passes to Pettigrew for the most part.
not like it’d be one guy the whole time though :)
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true, not the fastest guy on the Lions
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Correct.
You don’t need a cover guy on Pettigrew. He’s so good at using his body to box out defenders, and Stafford is so good with the ball getting it in there, that I can’t remember a single time that Pettigrew has had a pass disrupted from him. What you do need is someone who will tackle him every time, because 70% of his yardage is YAC.
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by Mavyrk on Sep 17, 2011 2:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
wow, at 10 yards per catch last year that would mean LB's should be on him
If he’s catching passes 3 yards down field.
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ok ... Houston or Langford or both?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Neither
Have Flowers or Arenas come off the edge and drop Hali into coverage…every play!
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by KC Conundrum on Sep 17, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
ok, that calls for the "I'm Totally Insane" font
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
My insanity prohibits me from any such action
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by KC Conundrum on Sep 17, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
it's a real Catch 22, Yossarian
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I like that
I’ll take it as a compliment =)
He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt, and his only mission each time he went up was to come down alive
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by KC Conundrum on Sep 17, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Houston and McGraw :)
one chip him and then get after Stafford. Although chipping a guy only going 3 yards may be counter-productive
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Well considering how many drops he left on the field
It’s probably skewed his numbers, but yes, I made the 70% figure up. Regardless, he lives on YAC. Stay close to him, be ready to tackle him, don’t let him fight for YAC, and just wait for him to drop crucial catches, basically.
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by Mavyrk on Sep 17, 2011 2:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
question ... what are the weak parts of the Lions defense?
or weakest part … ?
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I have no idea.
Historically, bad tackling and inconsistent coverage. But that seems to be changing.
Historically, I’d also say screens, but that seems to be improving too.
I’d say receiving RBs in the flats. Also, during pre-season our week 1 opponent found great success in the running game by basically triple teaming Suh and running straight at him. Of course, Suh got mad and bodyslammed Dalton for it, so I can’t really recommend it.
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by Mavyrk on Sep 17, 2011 2:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
you realize, I'm sure, that you're really helping much here ;-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
We tried that with the Bills TE
And the outcome was less than favorable
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by KC Conundrum on Sep 17, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
But we have enough weapons that if you apply tight coverage to Burleson/Megatron/Pettigrew, we’ll have to rely on lesser receivers who are going to be more open, which bodes better for yardage and the ability for your D to make a play.
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by Mavyrk on Sep 17, 2011 2:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You'll regret those words
when you see Pettigrew open a couple of times 15 or 20 yards downfield.
He’s not Jermichael Finley fast, but he has a knack for getting open out there.
No slogans. Just win!!!
he was 3rd in targets in 2010, but 23rd in yards per reception
not that he can’t get downfield, but most of his plays are short passes that move the chains it seems.
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that was true
with Shawn Hill throwing to him. Not so true with Stafford. Evidenced by his 14 ypc last week…Stafford likes Pettigrew up the seams..Hill didn’t have the arm to fit it in those windows…
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Shabby............
is he going to start working at a deli?
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"looked average at best against the Buffalo Bills..."
There are very few people who played average against the Bills last week. And none of them were safeties.
Hoping to be pleasantly surprised by the Chiefs this week. Plus I finally have cable and don’t have to watch the game on a crappy internet feed! =)
2 things I disagree with
1) There were several productive first round picks from 2009
2) “Average at best” describing Sabby and McGraw? “terrible” would probably be more accurate
by craig in calgary on Sep 17, 2011 1:12 PM CDT reply actions
you got to play langford and mcgraw
forget sabby,cut him and go see if sharper got anything left.
Sharper is way overrated.
Just sayin’.
by bamachief5558 on Sep 17, 2011 1:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
who else would be better
i got no problem signing sharper if he’s healthy
by niageriannit1 on Sep 17, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't either.
But I don’t really care one way or the other.
by bamachief5558 on Sep 17, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
the Broncos can have him
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
you play man all day and have a consistant pass rush againest stafford
romeo you need to dial it up pretend its manning playing for the lions.
Wow Joel Really?
Why would we play mcgraw or Sabby over Langford. I would hope that Langford would be playing instead of those 2 goons
There is a reason that they weren't cut and Langford was
Not that they’re studs, especially Sabby, but they are better players.
That said, we’ll see how they do this week against two pretty good tight ends.
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Ill take my chances with Langford playing.
I will break something if those 2 goofballs are playing over langford. I strongly disagree that they were kept because they were better. They were kept because they were better special teams players and there was no need for good depth behind eric berry. Langford will be playing over them. Bank on it
Maybe Sabby but not McGraw
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Sabby Pitcitelli
Is the absolute worst player ive ever seen at safety. I think I might be better than him and ive never played safety
mcgraw is slow but can tackle langford young and can run
sabby dead weight on the roster
by niageriannit1 on Sep 17, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Mcgraw
Is not good at all either he just looked good because Pitcitelli was playing beside him
The one game they played next to each other?
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Yea thats the only time mcgraw has ever looked good at safety
And no tackling guys after a 20 yard catch doesnt count as good
got to have a pass rush sunday
hello mr houston
good news
can we say the same for tjac
by niageriannit1 on Sep 17, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
better than Sunday isn't saying much ...
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That's good, because the coaches often say "he has been slacking off all week and looks like shit."
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Im think Tjac was a bust
Dont see him being here longterm, gotta admit to the mistake and move on
Tjac i'm still holding hope for
needs to step up or put gillberry in there
by niageriannit1 on Sep 17, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Swik, you might want to check out Kalo's post from yesterday
read his comments (pregame) on TJax … it might change your mind
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/9/16/2429607/kalos-knockdown-3-4-defense-101
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good read..........
and helpful
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was over at PoD a bit ago … those FOOLS! saying that AP’ers are intelligent and know a lot about football and are respectful …
must have us mixed up with S&B Pride
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You've comported yourself admirably.
Wars are only truly won through annihilation of the enemy. May our coaches remember that football is war.
by Lionsrmycrack on Sep 17, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
ty! first time I've seen that word "comported" on Arrowhead Pride
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I like it!
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by KC Conundrum on Sep 17, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
of course YOU like ... YOU don't lnow what it means
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Good enough a reason as any!
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by KC Conundrum on Sep 17, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
tomorrow's gonna be hell, isn't it
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One can only surmise
All I ask for is better competition than last week
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by KC Conundrum on Sep 17, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I kind of want to see what becht does our TE
6’4 270 I think he will help the run and the passing game tomorrow
becht is a good find all concedering
jason dunn anyone
by niageriannit1 on Sep 17, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
double team suh and use mcclain to clean up the rest
I hope weigeman holds up tomorrow asamough I feel good about
I hope Gaither is ready to play Right tackle tmrw
He was straight up pummeling D ends in preseason knocking them on their ass. Hes a top 5 Left tackle when healthy so it wont even be fair for opposing defenses for us to have him at Right tackle lol
the RT needs to be a mauler and a run-blocker first
Gaither is not strong in the run game right now and if anything it would be albert moving over.
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I agree with ur point but I believe they are dead set on Albert staying on the Left side
I would like to put gaither at Left and Albert at Right tackle because doing that u improve 2 postitions at the same time. But dont see them doing that its just too simple
between gaithers and becht the run game will be good
thats the biggest reason we brought becht back
by niageriannit1 on Sep 17, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Richardson played well against the Bills, most of the line did actually
Besides Asamoah getting blown up a few times they were alright. And considering Kyle Williams is pretty damn good, and so is Suh.
That’s two pro-bowl defensive lineman they’ll face in the first two weeks.
I can’t see them making Albert move mid-season. If he hasn’t practiced on the right side yet, which to my knowledge he hasn’t, I don’t think it happens this year.
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Seik, I understand your "reasoning" but I disagree ...
I think you do a disservice to BRich on his run blocking which is very good … Albert is more than adequate at LT in terms of pass protection … Gaither, however, is coming off back surgery and hasn’t played in over a year (in real competition) and Albert learning everything new on the right side AND trying to learn more run-blocking skills as well … I think it weakens both positions to just move him over and put Gaither in his place
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atleast we can still run left right upamtn
play gaithers at RT
by niageriannit1 on Sep 17, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
and not run to the right, eliminate half the field of play for Charles ...
brilliant!
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were trying to cut down the play calling for muir
we heard nap time was 3pm eastern.
by niageriannit1 on Sep 17, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Gaither isn't a strong run-blocker
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bottom line: there's a reason Gaither isn't starting and that Albert and BRich are ...
we can second-guess all we want, but basing a judgement off preseason snippets is not how it’s done … I don’t know about you, but I’ll go with the theory that Haley and his assts know more about the players and the situation than I do … or most of the rest of us, for that matter
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i think he's RT all the way
I saw the same thing
by niageriannit1 on Sep 17, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
would you take the ball or play DE if the chiefs win the coin toss tommorow
I would play offense first
With our MIA Offense...
Either first or @ the start of the 2nd half will probably be the only time we get to kick off…..( Somebody had to say it…)…
It seems like...
We’re screwed Either way…Lose to Detroilet & we’re sunk …Win &… Meh ….We we’re suposed to win this game going into the season…Me ?…I’ll take The Meh w/ a side of Whoo Hoo !!!…
Don't know about that
Even if we had won we’d be underdogs. Home opener for em too, place is gonna be jacked up
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Of Course...
Just showing up & focusing on a little more than getting “The Fundamentals” executed for a couple of consecutive quarters would be an improvement…You know…What the Off & Pre Season was for ?…
It worries me...
That we’ve gone from Eric" Captain Crunch" Berry to…
Jon “Slow Draw” Mc Graw…
Scabby Pissonthetelli…&
Lesshard Skankfart…
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Det doesn't run the ball that well
and that is kc’s biggest weakness so we have a chance
of course we have a chance ...
… Custer had a chance, too :-)
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Speaking of Custer,,,,,,,,,,,
have you visited the battlefield?
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matt cassel is no trent green
Cassel can’t throw deep, and most of all, what bugs me is. he can’t hit the quick underneath routes to avoid the passrush. If chiefs aren’t atleast 3-4 heading into week 8 I hope hailey pulls the plug on him and starts stanzi to finish the year. If they fail to make some changes like all it tells me is they don’t care about winning. We will basically be like the LA dodgers of football
by chief12ocker on Sep 17, 2011 3:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Nah... It's preseason 2nd quarter. Just 3 more games until halftime.
Preparing to welcome a future Chiefs fan in December... football season and fatherhood somehow go together.
I wonder how many games will we play where one of the "three keys to victory"
Is the Chiefs need to cover the TE….
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I think our only hope here is DJ
He’s a hell of a coverage linebacker. It may hurt the scheme to keep him solely on Pettigrew all day but we will get absolutely burned if they don’t figure out something.

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