Chiefs Vs. Lions: Injury Report Includes Jonathan Baldwin, Calvin Johnson

by Joel Thorman on Sep 16, 2011 8:30 AM CDT

There were no changes to the injury report for the Kansas City Chiefs and Detroit Lions game this weekend. Wednesday's report is identical to Thursday's, with the exception of DE Kyle Vanden Bosch, who takes Wednesdays off, coming off the injury report on Thursday.

For the Chiefs, that means WR Jonathan Baldwin is still not practicing after suffering a thumb injury about a week ago. There's no word on when he might return, how he's progressing or anything like that. I would guess he's likely to be out, or very limited, this Sunday agains the Lions, missing his second consecutive regular season game, but the Chiefs will confirm that this afternoon.

For the Lions, there are some important names on there. Those that didn't practice on Thursday include S Louis Delmas (hip), DT Nick Fairley (foot), T Jason Fox (foot) and WR Calvin Johnson (ankle). Those that were limited in practice include CB Alphonso Smith (foot) and WR Maurice Stovall (hand).

It sounds like Johnson (a/k/a Megatron) is going to be playing. At least that's what he says. We'll get the final word from the Lions on him this afternoon.

This afternoon we'll get the probable/questionable/doubtful/out designations for the injured guys.

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Calvin Johnson had better play.

Matthew Stafford is my starting QB, and I’m up against Brandon Pettigrew. No Calvin to throw to could screw me twice.

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on Sep 16, 2011 8:56 AM CDT reply actions

Jesus, no one gives a shit about your fantasy team

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by HIV 2 Elway on Sep 16, 2011 8:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 13 recs

Haha Agree!

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by porkchop_sandwiches on Sep 16, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions

This needs some green

TOUCHDOWN! KAN-SAH-CITY!!!

by TheScootness on Sep 16, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions

Damn I hate agreeing with HIV, but DUDE!

That was a real idiot thing to post on a Chiefs site. Nobody on here wants CJ to play! Moron.

RUN DEXTER RUN!!!!

by ARROWHEADSHANE on Sep 16, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions

meh, I want him to play ... no excuses for us

that said, HIV is spot on as usual

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by upamtn on Sep 16, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

I'll take the excuses.

We need a win, and we will get it a lot easier without Johnson.

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by dbakerku on Sep 16, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions

Thank you.

I get tired of, “Oh, I want to play them at full strength.” Bullshit. The Chiefs aren’t at full strength, so why should we want our opponents at full strength? I couldn’t care less if people want to make excuses, as long as we win.

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by Tarkus on Sep 16, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

YES SIR

RUN DEXTER RUN!!!!

by ARROWHEADSHANE on Sep 16, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions

neither does Todd Haley.

and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!

by reedeasy on Sep 16, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

So I'm totally pumped for kickoff last Sunday

..and my girlfriend and I are at the sports bar in our town to catch the game. Another Chiefs fan joins us at the table and the game starts…

Dexter Fumbles the opening kickoff. I’m stunned. I Could not believe he coughed up the opening kick off of the season. This guy turns to me and says

“Well at least I have the Bills Defense.”

by &thehomeoftheChiefs on Sep 16, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm usually the one defending fellow FF players...

But I hope Stafford feels the pain move from our bodies to his this Sunday. FEEL THE PAIN!

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by Chiefs_swagger on Sep 16, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions

I really

Cannot wait to see Baldwin in action.

by MidMo Chiefs Fan on Sep 16, 2011 9:01 AM CDT reply actions

Jones saw him in action once, he wasn't impressed

by upamtn on Sep 16, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I'm not too impressed with Jones.

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by Tarkus on Sep 16, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions

I'm not too impressed with Haley's impression of Jones.

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by Falcon58 on Sep 16, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

Me either.

He’s one of my backup WRs in FF.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 16, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

You Sir,...

Are going to be a BAD FF team if you drafted Baldwin! OMG. Who’s your QB? Cassel? LMAO.

RUN DEXTER RUN!!!!

by ARROWHEADSHANE on Sep 16, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

20 team league, 30 draft picks

QB’s Mark Sanchez. Baldwin was a very, very late round pick on the off chance that he might do something this year.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 16, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Huh?

WR Jonathan Baldwin is still not practicing after suffering a thumb injury about a week ago.

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Sep 16, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions

He probably means month.

by m.yashi on Sep 16, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions

Ya...

I wonder if Baldwin’s been able play Madden with his boo-boo thumb?

At least he could get comfortable with Cassel and build some unity.

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by Chiefs_swagger on Sep 16, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

sarcasm fail

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Sep 16, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Week, month ... it's all the same.

by JacinB on Sep 16, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions

Ya I think his Thumb was ripped off.

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by porkchop_sandwiches on Sep 16, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions

X

Has it been 3 weeks now?

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Sep 16, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions

They sure don't make players like they use to...bunch of wussies!

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by porkchop_sandwiches on Sep 16, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions

Or they make lockers better...

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 16, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Honestly ...

I’ve got to admit, I’d be alright with Johnson not playing.

Pettigrew is likely to be the bigger threat anyway, given our Safeties, but not having Johnson on the field might free up a defender to help bracket Pettigrew a bit.

by JacinB on Sep 16, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions

are there people that wouldnt be ok with him sitting?

by HIV 2 Elway on Sep 16, 2011 9:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

at least he's being honest

by rdub on Sep 16, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Sitting? I'd actually much prefer he be lying down...

on his couch… at home.

by Ochophosphate on Sep 16, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

Its ok.. Johnson will be playing.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Sep 16, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions

Still confused on why they didn't put him on PUP.

He will have missed two games and isn’t likely to contribute much for several weeks after he comes back. Put him on PUP for 6 weeks and sign someone else for the OL or TE help.

by BinSC on Sep 16, 2011 9:25 AM CDT reply actions

I believe once a player practices...

You can not put them on PUP. You can only put them on IR which would end their seasons. PUP is for recovering on previous/offseason injuries before they practice.

Please someone correct me if I’m wrong

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by groundedchevy on Sep 16, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions

correct

by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 16, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

PUP is only for players that come into camp injured.

If injured in camp you need to be either on the roster or IR.

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by saskwatch on Sep 16, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

Thanks.

That clears up my confusion.

by BinSC on Sep 16, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions

If Baldwin isn't practicing after a month

he must have really messed his thumb up. I understand not catching passes or doing limited weight training, but for him to not even be running routes (heck even shadow routes on the sidelines) is hard to imagine.

I hope once he does return, he can show us he was worth a first-round pick.

by Chiefs4Life on Sep 16, 2011 10:13 AM CDT reply actions

Doubtful.

Rookie WR’s rarely make a big contribution anyway. Missing as much time as he has will likely make him a role player this year. He could be the exception, but doubtful.

by BinSC on Sep 16, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions

If Baldwin runs a few deep routes and Cassel even attempts to get him the ball..that is an impact we need

Baldwin doesn’t have to go for 100/1000/10 this year to have an impact.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 16, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions

Cassel could make "attempts" with anyone on the field.

Unless they are actually completing some, no team will be concerned. For Baldwin to have any impact, he will have to demonstrate he is a threat. Otherwise, he is just another guy with single coverage.

by BinSC on Sep 16, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Which is why Baldwin is a threat as soon as he steps on the field

The guy can run, can jump, and has shown good hands. IF Cassel even takes a few shots deep, he may over throw Baldwin but if Baldwin gets behind the CB/S… defenses will play a S deeper to make sure they attempt to stop the next deep throw

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 16, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Baldwin possesses a skill set that no other Chiefs receiver has.

That alone makes him valuable on the field, even if he can’t necessarily make a huge impact in the stat department this year.

Not to sound like I’m making excuses for Cassel, but count me among those who think the problems in the passing game have a little more to do with our receivers’ lack of ability to beat press coverage and create separation. Baldwin has the skills to do that if he can get healthy. Whether that’s enough to make much of a difference considering how woeful our passing attack was against the Bills is another question.

by Gammon on Sep 16, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions

We have not had a deep threat in a while

If Baldwin/Breaston can get behind the defense and Cassel shows that he will go deep, that does force a defense to keep someone deep.

As for the Cassel vs WRs, there have been several times noted last year and even Urban is a great example in the Bills game of a WR being open but Cassel just does not see them in time.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 16, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions

A few choice instances don't prove that it's all Cassel's fault.

I don’t like Cassel that much, and I would be very surprised if he ended up being the long-term answer at QB, but he’s only 1/2 of the passing game. You can’t seriously be implying that every failed pass play is because Cassel just didn’t see the guy that was wide open?

This would be extensive research, but I’m willing to bet that a much higher percentage of the failed pass plays from last Sunday were plays in which no one was markedly open to throw to. It’s easy to pick one play and say “Hey, that guy was really open and Cassel didn’t throw to him. Cassel sucks,” but I think this team is dealing with a very serious quality of talent problem at WR and they’re suffering for it.

by Gammon on Sep 16, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions

I said there were plenty of examples last year that a target was wide open and Cassel didn't see him

Like the Jags game for example(best one that comes to mind) Dex goes uncovered over the top of the defense, Cassel looks at Bowe the whole time, ends up trying to force it to him and it goes out of bounds…

Part of it is WR issues, part of it is Cassel’s. You can look at good QBs and they will throw their WRs open, you can look at the best WRs and they still have to have a QB give them a chance.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 16, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions