Chiefs Depth Chart: Justin Houston Moves Ahead Of Andy Studebaker
by Joel Thorman on Sep 13, 2011 1:57 PM CDT
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The Kansas City Chiefs have released their depth chart for Sunday's Week 2 game against the Detroit Lions and we actually have a change: LB Justin Houston is now listed as the first string left outside linebacker, while LB Andy Studebaker moves to the second string. Houston played quite a bit more than Studebaker on Sunday so that's not a major surprise.
Amon Gordon also moves ahead of Jerrell Powe as the second string nose tackle. Powe was inactive on Sunday against the Bills. Also still listed on the depth chart is S Eric Berry, which means he hasn't been placed on IR (yet).
Other versions of the depth chart...
Preseason: Week 1, Week 2, Week 3 and Week 4.
Regular season: Week 1
Here's the complete depth chart for this week:
WR: Steve Breaston, Jerheme Urban, Jonathan Baldwin
LT: Branden Albert, Jared Gaither
LG: Ryan Lilja, Rodney Hudson
C: Casey Wiegmann, Rodney Hudson
RG: Jon Asamoah, Rodney Hudson
RT: Barry Richardson, Steve Maneri
TE: Leonard Pope, Jake O'Connell
WR: Dwayne Bowe, Terrance Copper, Keary Colbert
QB: Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko, Ricky Stanzi
FB: Le'Ron McClain, Jackie Battle
RB: Thomas Jones, Jamaal Charles, Dexter McCluster, Jackie Battle
DEFENSE
LDE: Tyson Jackson, Allen Bailey, Amon Gordon
NT: Kelly Gregg, Amon Gordon, Jerrell Powe
RDE: Glenn Dorsey, Wallace Gilberry, Brandon Bair
LOLB: Justin Houston, Andy Studebaker
LILB: Jovan Belcher, Demorrio Williams
RILB: Derrick Johnson, Demorrio Williams, Cory Greenwood
ROLB: Tamba Hali, Cameron Sheffield
LCB: Brandon Flowers, Travis Daniels
RCB: Brandon Carr, Javier Arenas, Jalil Brown
SS: Eric Berry, Jon McGraw, Donald Washington
FS: Kendrick Lewis, Sabby PIscitelli
SPECIAL TEAMS
P: Dustin Colquitt, Ryan Succop
K: Ryan Succop
LS: Thomas Gafford
PR: Dexter McCluster, Steve Breaston, Jerheme Urban
KR: Javier Arenas, Dexter McCluster, Steve Breaston
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Well thats some good news
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Only a formality
Considering the snaps each took last game.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 13, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
which was what, exactly?
i was drunk at the game and for some reason my oh-so-awesome comcast DVR wiped all of my recorded shows off the face of the planet on sunday (not the first time, either…). so i was not able to over-analyze such things :(
if rhymes were valiums, i'd be comfortably numb
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by Chris Sembower on Sep 13, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
thats kinda what i thought. i remember telling my brother that i thought i was seeing houston a lot
how did houston play?
if rhymes were valiums, i'd be comfortably numb
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by Chris Sembower on Sep 13, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Like the rest of the D
nothing spectacular.
ha, yeah stupid question i guess
did he at least not get noticeably burned?
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by Chris Sembower on Sep 13, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
He was on his back a lot less than T-Jax
But I guess that isn’t a fair comparison.
yeah...
probably not a lot to discern in one direction or the other on this one. they didnt get much help from O or S/T
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by Chris Sembower on Sep 13, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
They got even less help from the secondary
losing Berry early like that fucked our coverage schemes a bit (due in large part, imo, to the youth of our secondary across the board). Hopefully they’ll be better prepared next week once they’ve had time to practice with Berry’s sub(s) more. Theoretically, that should give the DL/LB a chance to get back on the front foot.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
No,
I didn’t see him get burned…he was sort of like DJ, not really much involved.
I didn't really see him rush :/
In one of the GD threads I’m pretty sure someone brought up Houston was out of position on a play though
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Which I expect from a rookie from time to time.
However, his strength is rushing the passer and getting into the backfield.
I saw Sheff in when we brought pressure from that side
Yeah if anyone is upset about a DE/WOLB getting beat now and then in coverage.. thats what’s gonna happen
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I was more upset
with the play of our front 7. Home game against an average OL and we get one sack…no push from the DL, LBS not filling gaps…..Dorsey, Gregg, and TJ need to pick it up.
Gilberry and Bailey got most of the snaps on DL.
Chiefs ran mostly nickel. They need to do some more nickel involving DL other than Gilberry or Bailey. Both of ‘em in there and it’s just too inconsistent.
would of ≠ would've
That's what I thought I saw.
I really don’t understand all the playing time for Bailey. I like him, I think he’ll be good later. But right now he’s so raw, he needs to just get spot duty.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
It didn't look so bad until we lost Berry
Think we were a little caught off guard going to put the offense on the field first, but then have to throw the defense out. Lose a leader and a playmaker for both the run game and defending the pass..
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
We lost Berry on like the 3rd play of the game
Maybe a little off guard…but Gregg, DJ, Tamba, Flowers, and Carr that is unacceptable.
Carr actually had a good game overall
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Except when he was giving the WR a 20 yard cushion on 3rd and 9
Or whatever the hell it was (I exaggerate, of course). I don’t know if it was the scheme or what, but they had him playing deep off of guys on 3rd and “reasonable”. Not really Carr’s fault I guess but no wonder you give up a first down in situations like that.
by Ochophosphate on Sep 13, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Right, the blame really can't fall on Carr for something like that
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Well on one side Berry is a big loss
Not only because of all the plays he makes, but I’ve seen him talking guys up, getting them lined up, etc..
Without Berry we had no one stepping up and speaking up.. we just go walked over
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
That is where
I would expect Gregg and Tamba to come in…even if Berry was there, I don’t think our DL play would have improved.
It would have looked better because Berry would have cleaned the play up
He did that amazingly last year, has a knack for being where he needs to be, even if its across the field or he has to take out the FB first.
Tamba has never been a loud guy on the field, I was hoping DJ would be that guy… doesn’t look like he will be there year either
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
There seemed to be
so many holes. Teams are going to continue to send multiple WRs cuz they can protect their QB against our pass rush.
Watch some of Berry's highlights from last year
You will see a ton of holes by the front 3, but then the red missile that is Berry closes that gap in an instant.
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
With run D.
But teams know they can kill us with the TE and multiple WR sets. That is our biggest issue. Look at Oak. They can send 4 with pressure and drop 7.
That also allows players like DJ to be able to focus dropping
back instead of looking for the draw, etc
Berry might be a bigger part to the defense than you are giving him credit for
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I give him tons of credit,
but our main problem last year was covering the TE on 3rd down. Oak and Balt killed us on it. This is nothing new Even with Berry, this is a problem.
That is also a scheme issue
Look back at the Balt game, when Heap really started to kill us it was Belcher and McGraw not Berry on him.
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree with the scheme issue.
The more they worry about the TE, the more room they give ‘im. I don’t want Houston to be dropping back and running 30 yards with TEs. I want him crushing them at the line. Nobody gets off the line free. It’s the ONE thing the pro game has to combat the bullshit from the college ranks.
would of ≠ would've
The .gif of Tamba crushing the TE
Is the perfect example of what we have been missing
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny thing about that sack, it came on a 3-man rush.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
read it thre times before I realized GD=Game day
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Haha sorry
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't even see Andy play.
Seemed like Sheffield and Houston were on the field alot.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Everytime I saw Studie it was on the sideline with his helmet off
Not sure about putting Gordon ahead of Powe though.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
I'd like to see TJax take some of TJax's reps
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
by Fozzyboyd on Sep 13, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not a TJax hater, but that was funny right there.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
That was awesome.
If you were a hot dog and you were really hungry, would you eat yourself? I would, with some sauerkraut.
Eh, Gordon's a vet.
If he’s still ahead of Powe next year, I’ll start to worry.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I still like it
Was wondering why Powe was inactive in Week 1. I know you only get a certain amount of guys to suit up, but I wouldn’t have sat him.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
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I figured it was based off Buff offense
We weren’t going to play a lot of 34 base D, so we only needed one NT.
I wouldn't have sat Brown and Washington.
That talent pool at DB was awfully shallow after Berry went down.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 13, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I rather have Brown and Washington in there playing
compared to McGraw and Sabby… UGHHH
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that is about right.. Washington could do it, I think Brown could learn
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 13, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Brown played some free safety in college
he’s a little small for an NFL safety though imo.
Washington has better size and is a freak athlete, throw his ass out there and see what happens.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
For the record,
D-Wash has gotten plenty of playing time in the past and always sucked. That said, he’s still young and talented, and actually looked like he knew what he was doing for the first time ever this preseason, so i agree, throw him out there and see what happens. Hopefully he’ll start developing.
If you were a hot dog and you were really hungry, would you eat yourself? I would, with some sauerkraut.
No kidding. I was shocked when I saw Houston out there on the first snap. Shocked, I say!
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Yeah, i thought it would take all the way till week two for him start.
But he beat my expectations!
If you were a hot dog and you were really hungry, would you eat yourself? I would, with some sauerkraut.
Best news of the week
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by HIV 2 Elway on Sep 13, 2011 2:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Is there a chance that Berry doesnt go on IR and they try to bring him back late?
Seems weird that he hasn’t been put on IR yet and they released a depth chart with him on it.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Probably just not ready to make a corresponding roster move
Tuesday is the day when a lot of teams work players out so maybe they did that today.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 13, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
True enough
Maybe we’ll get a Berry for Peele swap before the end of the day…or Darren Sharper please.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Sep 13, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
if the tare is not bad that is possble
I tore mine earlier this year. Was running in 4 weeks, and did a half marathon in 8 weeks. but from what the dr. said, few people get away with that.
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 13, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Not too many sudden directional changes
in running a marathon.
by RamX21 on Sep 13, 2011 4:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Surprise !
Berry is still listed Cus he’s gonna play ! That’ll throw Detroit off ;). (sarcasm)
by chiefsman! on Sep 13, 2011 2:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
it surprises me that it happened this fast. usually we would just keep studebaker as the "starter" through the season
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Team Colquitt
yeah, its almost a complete change from how its gone the past couple years
very very interesting
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Team Colquitt
Maybe Haley realized these little games he plays (that no one else does)
Doesn’t achieve anything. Wait, is TJ still “starting” ahead of Jamaal?
by craig in calgary on Sep 13, 2011 2:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
thats the thing, im not so sure its been changed everywhere else.
bit odd honestly
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Maybe they just keep forgetting to update the depth chart
But they remembered this time.
That is cray-z.
I think players develop more quickly if you grade them out according to objective (as possible) criteria.
Some people seem to believe in the “If I have to tell him, then there’s no point in telling him.” Sort of a zen/guru thing, where you expect a guy to figure things out on his own, or something. I think you ought to be as clear as possible with your grades and why the one guy is rated higher than the other. If he needs telling, then tell him. Don’t waste time waiting for him to figure it out for himself.
would of ≠ would've
Different strokes for different folks.
Houston’s been playing smart, keeping his assignments, and keeping his mouth shut. It wouldn’t make much of a point to play head games with somebody who isn’t causing any trouble whatsoever.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
It wouldn’t make much of a point to play head games with somebody who isn’t causing any trouble whatsoever.
So what’s the reason for playing head games with RB?
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
Maybe TJ is actually better :)
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
So much better that he only got 1 carry?
If you were a hot dog and you were really hungry, would you eat yourself? I would, with some sauerkraut.
He was in the Bills game
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Only 3 snaps
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Which is still in the game!
Wasn’t he on ST as well?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Have no idea
I’ve been blanking out that game from my memory with a steady supply of alcohol.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I'm not starting drinking THIS early unless I replay the game
However I want to say I remember his name being called on a coverage tackle, maybe I’m wrong
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
leron played, we have a bit of an issue there
if you look at last year, we didnt use the FB very much. yes there were a few times in the past 2 years with castille throwing a pass to cassel, a few castille screens….but for the most part we dont use the FB very often. now that we’re down a TE, I think the team is in a rough spot, they are now trying to incorporate completely different sets in order to match adding a FB, subtracting a TE.
I know it doesnt sound difficult, but we love our multi TE sets, now we have to go a bit more traditional
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
3 snaps in total.
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Team Colquitt
When/if they get the WRs involved in the passing game, especially if Baldwin comes along,
I’m hoping to see more pro sets. More McClain.
would of ≠ would've
Glad it has happened
looks like Houston is the better player opposite of Hali. Now they just need to find someone to replace Belcher and the Safety Position.
I would love to put Tatupu or Chowder next to DJ and Shaper next to Lewis.
Breaking News:
Eric Berry did not suffer a torn ACL; an ACL suffered Eric Berry.
You can't spell Power without Powe.
ouch...
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
he doesnt make it past my week 3 cut day
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Team Colquitt
Lol
Know what’s funny? Broncos fan are accusing Orton of locking on to his first receiver too.
Haha. I’m beginning to think it’s just not true, or that the QB is supposed to, and it’s just the bland complaint you use when you don’t like your QB.
Oh well. A meme is a meme is a meme…
Most Bronco fans will blame Orton of anything to get rid of him
They still believe Tebow is their savior
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He very well could be
Though not in the way they think ;)
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
So glad the 'Tebow mania' is not taking over the Chiefs
No matter how much I like or dislike the current QB.. it could be worse
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
We do need a TE. Could be worth a look.
I think Tebow gets a bad rap personally.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I just can't stand his hype, nor do I believe he will be any good as a NFL QB
There is time to prove me wrong ofc
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I think people put too much into QB mechanics.
Sure maybe his release is somewhat slow, but the guy seems to just make things happen out there. You can’t deny that.
He's like Vince Young
Only without the mental issues.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I never really saw anything in college that proved to me he could be a NFL QB
He made things happen, but so did Cassel last year… haha
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
he is a gamer
and can play in bad weather…
We sure Cassel is better?
I can’t judge yet. Have not seen much of Tebro at this level.
He's the worst QB in Denver
What makes you think he could do anything more than ride pine behind Palko and Stanzi? The kid’s only chance of staying in the league is to convert to TE or H-Back and that’s unlikely imo.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Im left handed so maybe im a bit bias. but I think tebow has a darn good shot if they would hire a darn QB coach basically just for him
some sort of specialist, or ex left handed starting QB.
He has a lot of skills. That said, orton is a quality game manager
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Tebow is....if he were with the Chiefs
he'd lay hands on Berry and heal him to play against Detroit
by THE_TRUTH on Sep 13, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't even care about that really.
My observation is that when fans tire of their QB, to prove their point they say he won’t come off his first read.
But I watched Aaron Rodgers Thursday night do amazing, and he often threw to the guy he initially locked on to. I just don’t know that fans know as much about the QB position as they think they do.
by bossmanham on Sep 13, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Give the man a prize
So tired of hearing constant bitching about a position the majority of fans will never come close to understanding.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
The Bronco fans also
booed the officals loudly for calling a false start penalty when their offensive tackle lunged across the line nearly a full second before the snap of the ball.
Gotta give the officials hell, part of the game, but a false start? C’mon Donks….
King Carl's 5 year plan is over, bring on Pioli's 8 year plan!
by Lucky777Luciano on Sep 13, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe they were booing their OT for being such an idiot
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Nah...
I’ve been at Arrowhead plenty of times when our guy false starts without being induced. We’re booing our own dummy before the Zebra can even get the flag out of his pocket.
The D-line didn’t move at all on the play, their O-lineman just blatantly blew the snap count, and the Donk fans had to wait for the full officials call before the chorus of boos rang down upon the striped man.
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by Lucky777Luciano on Sep 17, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
well. honestly...
I really like our QB, his heart, etc….but he really isnt the best when it comes to hitting a second or third or fourth read. Orton does lock onto one reciever, but has had serious success doing so with brandon marshall. cassel had some success as well with bowe, but now we have more options, options who may be open for td’s. just watch stanzi play during preseason….he hits his FIFTH read at one point.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Hey, I'm all about the future with Stanzi.
If Cassel continues to under perform, then I say put him in.
by bossmanham on Sep 13, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
right there with you.....
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I'm like you in the Cassel area.
I really do want him to succeed. He’s a good guy and a hard worker. But if he can’t get it done, we’ll have to admit it and move on.
yep. otherwise we are in for the same thing over and over and over.
Id love to know if stanzi can play before they go pick a QB in the 1st. we may have a franchise QB on roster….and maybe its cassel, its just looking less likely by the month
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Cassel would be a great back up/spot player
Just can’t handle the team falling squarely on his shoulder
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I have thought the same myself
Great guy, solid attitude, excellent backup QB. He is better than many other QBs out there but I believe the time has come where we can finally get a true franchise QB. Hopefully that is Stanzi. If not then draft one. And if you miss then draft another one. It is by far the most important position on the field to have average or above average play. It’s about time we get our Elway or Manning. One thing is pretty certain, you will not get one trading for a successful teams backup QB. Case in point, Bono, Grbac, Mitchell, Cassel. A great QB can be found in later rounds such as Brady but that is very rare. The chances of landing one the top of the draft are off the charts. Could you miss. Of course. San Diego did with Leaf. It didn’t stop them from drafting Rivers. We missed on Blackledge 28 years ago and haven’t tried again since.
by paulredfish on Sep 13, 2011 4:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually, SD did not draft Rivers.....
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Technically you are correct but...
In actuality they wanted Rivers because Eli Manning did not want to play for them so the draft day trade was made. I believe they got the better end of that deal Who could blame a team for wanting a Manning after what Peyton had done.
by paulredfish on Sep 13, 2011 5:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I know, just couldn't resist.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
If the season is in the tank after week 5, I see no reason to play all the guys on the fence for 2012
Not saying he’s on the fence, but put the practice squad players in as well.
yeah. if we are in the tank, id push that back a few weeks though due to brutal schedule stretch
I think after the bad 5 games, is when we could see stanzi
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Team Colquitt
in that scenario where failure is taking place. not writing us off, just saying
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Was the idea of leaving Casel in
late in the 4th quarter, when the game was clearly over, based on getting him some more work? Or was it based on Haley not understanding that once the game is clearly over it’s time to pull you’re critical starters?
Isn’t garbage time during the regular season useful in helping your backup QB’s keep some rust off in case your starter has to have an organ removed or something midseason?
King Carl's 5 year plan is over, bring on Pioli's 8 year plan!
by Lucky777Luciano on Sep 13, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is Sabby Pisceletti still on this depth chart?
How have we not replace him yet? What is going on Pioli?
Remove Eric Berry and Brandon Bair from the roster
Replace them with Darren Sharper and Alge Crumpler
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
I wonder if sharper would be mike brown part 2
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
He just said this on Twitter...
sharper42
To answer a tweeters question.The toughest thing about watching this weekends games is watching guys play that aren’t half as good as u are.
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
well, I wont argue that hes an upgrade over our all white safety duo...but Im just wondering
if other options are out there who may not be as old
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I would be looking for some proven guys
We have enough unproven young guys as it is
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
We could use his voice on the defense without Berry
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
And in 2009 he just intercepted 9 passes and returned 3 for touchdowns. He still has some gas in the tank.
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
Not to mention a great mentor to Lewis when Berry returns
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
As for who is available….Sharper is the only way to go imo
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
K now that we agree on Sharper
Pioli has NO reason not to go get ’em
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
You have Pioli's number
I seem to have lost it somewhere
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
Uh..
…my dog ate my phone?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Crap
Well send message to the Thormans I hear they have a spare key to Pioli’s office.
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
Is Sharper even a SS?
I thought he was a deep half FS
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He can do both
At this point he is better dropping back, but he would instantly be the best safety we have
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he would be great for Lewis
Lewis has potential, but needs some help.
I didnt say they had to be a 22-24 year old rookie. Im saying maybe we can trade for someone, snag a guy cut off waivers
ill have to go see who is available
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Trust me
I have looked and searched all over…..not much out there right now
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
The Ravens PS has an interesting guy that was brought up on a draft site
S Mana Silva (Rookie, Hawaii), I do not think he would be the answer though, could be part of the fix though
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
there you go. thats the type of thing I could see. an intruiging prospect, why not
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Yeah that would be great for 2012 2013 and beyond
We need the fix it quick kind of guys
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
At this point I can't see him being worse than Sabby
I would like Sharper or a vet, but I’ll take any upgrade
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
True that....cannot argue that point
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
Interesting, even though it's old
The Kansas City Chiefs have had an individual meeting with Hawaii S Mana Silva, reports Aaron Wilson, of NationalFootballPost.com.
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/player/24743/NFL/mana-silva#ixzz1Xrb4Z2Ps
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
4.4 forty 40inch vertical 23 bench presses
He is certainly an athletic freak
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
From this guy Chris, some weird blog
A lot of raven fans were talking about how he is a playmaker, in Reed’s ear, etc
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Why isnt this guy on a 53 roster?
He sounds like a beast in the secondary….I would love to have him
McCluster: My heart is so big, man. A lot of people come to me all the time and say ‘You’re 165 pounds, how do you do it?’ And I look at them and tell them, you know what? I’ve got the heart of a lion. I’m not scared of nobody.
I know right?
Sounds like a very interesting prospect…
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoa there Al Davis
It ain’t all about height/weight/speed. Safety requires an instinct.
You can't spell Power without Powe.
Read up on him, thanks.
Shesh
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, no intent to offend
merely trying to squeeze an Al Davis joke in wherever I see an opening. haha
You can't spell Power without Powe.
He is on their PS?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't argue that would be an instant upgrade
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Couldn't be any worse than Sabby.
Has lots of upside and would add great depth in the future as well…
For those that don't know much about Keo..
TRANSACTIONS: Selected by Houston Texans in fifth round (144th overall) of the 2011 NFL Draft…released by Texans on Sept. 3, 2011…signed to Texans’ practice squad on Sept. 5, 2011.
COLLEGE CAREER: Started 50-of-55 games at strong safety for Idaho and recorded 358 tackles (237 solos) with one sack for minus nine yards and 20.0 stops for losses totaling 67 yards…Gained 168 yards on 11 interceptions (15.27 avg.) and deflected 20 other pass attempts…Caused three fumbles and recovered six others, gaining 10 yards on one return…Notched four quarterback pressures…Gained 585 yards with one touchdown on 53 punts returns (11.04 avg.) and 162 yards on eight kickoff returns (20.25 avg.)…Also rushed three times for 98 yards (32.67 ypc)…One of just 11 players in Idaho history with over 300 career tackles…Ranks fifth in Idaho annals with 358 tackles, as that mark is surpassed only by Sam Merriman (519, 1979-82), Jason Shelt (461, 1992-96), Tom Hennessey (390, 1983-86) and Duke Garrett (360, 1990-94)…Tied for sixth in school annals with 11 career interceptions and placed eighth with 20 pass deflections…Ranks first in school career annals with 585 punt return yards, topping the previous mark of 556 by Vern Bernard (1996-98)…Set a school season record with 319 punt return yards in 2007…Set a school record by returning a punt 100 yards for a touchdown vs. Northern Illinois in 2007.
I've heard bad things about Keo from Texans fans
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, it seems he is terrible in pass coverage
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 13, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Is a better fit for the lb/s role McGraw was used in
I still like Silva for his ceiling
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
McGraw a good tackler
just not good at pass protection
My Guess is that Lewis will move to berry spot, and Arenas will hold down lewis’s spot, if they make a move it all they will bring Lawerence off the PS
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 13, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
We have no idea how Arenas would fair at S
That would not only weaken Nickel CB/KR.. but now possibly weaken both safety spots. Makes no sense
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
who else do we have that has enough speed?
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 13, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I would argue that this is where Arenas would be his best.
Let him spy the field as a S.
The only thing I don’t like about his game is he’s limited in bump-and-run. His blitz threats would be a lot more use if he could just as easily shut down the slot receiver nose-to-nose. Then they’d have to worry about the blitz AND figure that wideout was a bad bet. To date, that slot man has been a GOOD bet. Arenas is good for the tackle, but not going to contest the pass, unless he’s off, reads the QB and makes a break on the ball, which he IS fairly good at. But in tight, he just doesn’t get in anybody’s way. I think Arenas is a part of the reason KC unfailingly goes soft against extra wides. No hope of manning-up at the line. Lets offenses dictate to your defense, which is JUST what Buffalo did on Sunday.
would of ≠ would've
Sabby has a great ceiling, too.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
But his floor is a bottom-less pit
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Sep 13, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
ok. then sharper is the guy. lets hope the call is made
I cant stand the thought of what we have the rest of the year at SS
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
nothing like humility
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Yeah I forgot about Crumpler... Good thinking!
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Sep 13, 2011 2:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Luis Castillo likely to miss around 12 weeks with his broken leg, but Chargers not made decision yet on IR for him. Could wait it out awhile
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thats a major loss for the chargers.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
So whys Powe Third in line now?
Is he hurt? I thought he looked good in preseason.
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by porkchop_sandwiches on Sep 13, 2011 2:41 PM CDT reply actions
so they can sit him
and still have a back up nose, that can play other positions.
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 13, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup, Gordon has experience at DE.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Houston is starting now…..just as i predicted way back in MAY…..ALLEN BAiley will be starting by wk 3……and when BALDWIN GETS BACK HE WILL START AS WELL….I DIDNT SEE URBAN OPEN ALL GAME ..OR MAYBE IT WAS JUST THAT TERRIBLE BILL MUIR PLAYCALLING…..HALEY NEEDS 2 GRAB THOSE REINS BACK……. pick up DARREN SHARPER and we can get this thing back up and running…..Sharper should have been a target from the jump anyway…pairing BERRY with a PRO BOWL caliber vet would only have made him better………
RAWKC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Urban was open for a TD on the missed field goal drive IIRC
Cassel never looked to the left
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I think one of the problems
is Cassel is to comfortable with Mo and Bowe, and pope, and doesn’t look for the other recievers.
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 13, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He gets the play call, hears the #1 read.. then thats that
he barely ever goes to his #2 or #3 unless the check down WR runs right to him
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Very big problem
Unless we keep feeding JC and he somehow breaks runs everygame to keep the defense honest
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally, I think
whether we got TJ or Jamal, or Dex in the backfield, we should have Mcclain as a possibilty of getting the ball too.
by Bigcherokeechief on Sep 13, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
He should
However we will need to have big plays to stay in the game with how the defense looked, giving the ball to McClain does not offer that
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone know of any free agents or anyone
That we can grab to fill in for Berry? I’d take just about anyone in the League, (and about any pedestrian off the street) over that peice of shit Piscitelli.
What are some options (ANY) that we could look to?
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/9/13/2422539/what-free-agent-safeties-are-still-available
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
At least Houston can bring the possibility of
A big play. Unlike Studie last year and this year. Yes im including preseason gameplan
by CHIEFFAN82 on Sep 13, 2011 3:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
DUUUUUUDEEEEE
STude had 2 int’s!
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 13, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
DUUUUUUUUUUDEEEEE lol
Llike 2 years ago in the same game(one of the only highlights of 09) vs pitt …Been MIA outside of a sack ever since…
by CHIEFFAN82 on Sep 13, 2011 4:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Guess I shoulda @'d that
I’m not a STude supporter, just had to state the reason many want(ed) him to start/see more playing time over Sheff and Houston
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 14, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
who's the defensive captain?
"Oh I'm Sorry I Thought This Was AMERICA"
by porkchop_sandwiches on Sep 13, 2011 3:52 PM CDT reply actions
Ugh!
John McGraw makes me want to slit my throat.
Calvin Johnson might not have a catch next week because he won’t be able to stop laughing long enough to run a route!
RUN DEXTER RUN!!!!
Changes
Hell, things can’t get any worse, lets throw Leron in at TE, Washington or Brown in as a tandem for replacing Berry. Can’t be much worse than Jersey Shore can it? And anyone have any updates on FA pursuing of safeties or ILB’s or Baldwin’s status?
Houston Isn't An Upgrade
Houston played worse than Studebaker would have and made zero plays. Never happened when Studie started or played a lot.
by Richard Beth Hyde on Sep 15, 2011 3:00 PM CDT reply actions
WHY?
Just wait till this guy starts getting duped all over the field.
by Richard Beth Hyde on Sep 15, 2011 3:01 PM CDT reply actions
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