Five Things To Remember From Chiefs Training Camp
by Joel Thorman on Aug 8, 2011 8:30 AM CDT
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Here's five random thoughts about the Kansas City Chiefs training camp in this early 2011-12 season.
The heat is still the story line coming from camp. At least for the fans. On Saturday, we were sitting at Spratt Stadium so there's no shade anywhere for about two and a half hours. I drank 64 ounces of water and two 32 ounce Gatorades on Saturday and still got into the car to drive home feeling a little off. I honestly don't know how the players do it. The coaching staff and medical staff must be on high-alert at all times.
WR Chandler Williams is still on the team. Many of you probably don't remember but the Chiefs picked up Williams mid-season in 2009, then he was hurt for all of the 2010 season and now he's back in camp. The odds are against him considering receiver is a crowded position right now but a number of times I've caught myself looking at the roster to see who No. 8 is. He has some moves to create separation on the ball and looks good working against his teammates. I'm not going to predict he makes the team but he's been catching my eye.
National reporters coming out to camp include FOX's Jay Glazer and SI's Don Banks. Peter King is coming next week and Sirius NFL radio will be here on the final day. I'm not sure when, or if, ESPN will send Mort or Adam Schefter.
Last year's rookie class turned into veterans quickly. Eric Berry, Javier Arenas. Dexter McCluster. Tony Moeaki. Kendrick Lewis. These are now veteran-like players. They're just in their second career training camp but they're veterans of the Todd Haley way. All those guys, that class in particular, just seemed to understand quickly the way things were done. Now the rookies and new free agents look to guys like Berry and Arenas as those to lead the way.
I thought Haley would be harder on WR Jonathan Baldwin. In fact, I thought he'd get the WR Dwayne Bowe treatment and get beat up and by Haley in the first year. I thought he would start the year on the third string of the depth chart or something. Well...maybe not. Haley hasn't really used the media much to motivate Baldwin and, despite a hamstring issue he suffered over the weekend, he's been in there participating without major issues.
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Great news about Baldwin
I believe he is coming to the NFL with a chip on his shoulder from all the bad press. I expect him to be a great team player and give it all he’s got. There’s still plenty of time to get in Haley’s doghouse, but I’m pulling for him.
I think he's going to make his presence known early on this season against opposing cb's
and develop into our next real one-on-one matchup ace since TG before season’s end. He’s going to be all-pro caliber very soon if he keeps his head down & keeps grinding it out. I think this kid will be our next great receiver.
and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!
Haley might be having trouble finding a reason to put Baldwin in his doghouse.
The kid seems unbelievably humble. Doesn’t strike me as a guy that would ever take a play, drill, or practice off.
Maybe his stayover at MC's house
was a good thing.
by electriclight on Aug 8, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, the poor thing.
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
I love that Haley isn't going nuts with Baldwin YET.
A good manager/leader treats all of his underlings differently. Haley’s probably testing the waters right now. If Baldwin is doing well/putting forward the right effort without being yelled at then why mess with a good thing?
God typed "iddqd" before creating Jason Heyward.
This.
Bowe was in his doghouse because he deserved to be. As long as Baldwin is doing all the right things, he should be given a pat on the back, not a kick in the rear.
Yeah that's the difference.
Bowe’s idiot mistakes came on Haley’s watch.
Baldwin’s idjit moves came before he was ever on the Chiefs. Since he’s been drafted, he’s done everything by the book and, at least so it appears, he’s doing everything to prove that he’s a professional.
Until he does something stupid, there’s no reason for Coach to put him in the doghouse.
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
I think he doesnt have to go off on him because its a different environment
this year with baldwin he’s gonna learn from a group of vets around him that all understand how haley wants things done so coach doesnt have to be on him all the time.
With bowe having an established way of doing things that was different from what haley wanted there was a need for the coach to do more.
I may be a smart ass, but at least I'm not a donkey
One thing
we learned from last season, Haley is not afraid to put the Rockies in and let them get their chance.
by Bigcherokeechief on Aug 8, 2011 8:47 AM CDT reply actions
The Brewers, however, can just sit on the bench and rot.
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
Tarkus is correct
Baldwin comes to a Chiefs team that is pretty well disciplined. Bowe’s first year was directly after Herm being HC and Herm was no disciplinarian. Bowe didn’t know any better than to act as an unruly child. Haley set him straight. Baldwin gets the broken in version of the Chiefs to relate to. He hasn’t done anything except what he sees the rest doing—playing football and becoming the best football player possible. This team has set a precedent of getting top rookie picks to contribute early in their career. I look for Baldwin to be no different.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
by Aiken_Drum on Aug 8, 2011 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I said this ...
… following the draft, when a lot of commentators were dinging the Chiefs for taking players with “character issues” after all the talking about how they were building with “character guys,” team captains, etc. Once you’ve done the hard work of changing the culture, you can let the culture work for you. You don’t have to personally change everyone, because they’ll adapt to their environment. It’s changing a bad environment that’s the hardest task. Once htat’s done, you don’t have to stock up with 100% “good guys” – the core of good guys is already in place and wlil influence the rest.
by Ed Granger on Aug 8, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Of course, having said that ...
The flip side is that you still want to avoid the really bad apples that can ruin the whole basket, and need to get rid of them once you’ve identified them.
Off Topic: Tony Moeaki
Any word on if he is going to participate today? I heard rumors late last week that he may return to the field early this week. Just wondering if anyone had reported anything that I may have missed.
It's great to finally trust the men making the important decisions at 1 Arrowhead Drive.
NFL NETWORK
We should Boycott NFL network they talk about all 31 teams in the NFL but not the Chiefs…
by Chieffanndonkeyland on Aug 8, 2011 9:36 AM CDT reply actions
naw, they skip other teams
but they no likey the closed mouths on the old info.
by Bigcherokeechief on Aug 8, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
well its
not hard for me to boycott them.. lol I have local channels plus 2 free channels a month. I listen to the games on the internet.. lol
damn maybe I will splurg this year and get ESPN or something.
by Bigcherokeechief on Aug 8, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Heh.
Last I heard NFL Network is not available to Joel, which is why I said that. I don’t get them either (out of choice), unless I watch online.
It's easy for me to do.
I have zero channels. Just Internet and Netflix.
I get equal coverage on teams via NFL Network!
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
You can watch the games online
Bigcherokeechief, you know that you can watch the actual games online for free and you dont have to just listen to them =) Ive been doing it for years living in MD not many of the chiefs games get televised around here
No links.
It’s a violation of copyright so we can’t post links. Have to play by the rules in order to have the access this site does.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 8, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
It takes a lot of work
to get that many photos of Bowe getting a drink.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 8, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
BALDWIN’S WORK ETHIC WAS ALWAYS COMMENTED ON BY HIS COACHING STAFF AFTER THE DRAFT…..THEY ALL CAME 2 SAY HOW HARD A WORKER HE WAS AND THAT ALOT OF THE “REPORTS” ON HIM WERE OVERBLOWN…..I EXPECTED BALDWIN 2 COME IN AND GET 2 WORK…THE GUYS BEEN IN KC FOR MTHS NOW…..I THINK WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER BERRY ON OUR HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RAWKC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by RAWKC on Aug 8, 2011 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
RIGHT YOU ARE AGAIN, SIR!
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
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