With Jared Gaither, Chiefs Have Tough Decisions On Depth Chart
by Joel Thorman on Aug 11, 2011 1:44 PM CDT
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The Kansas City Chiefs depth chart at offensive line is getting a little more crowded now that the team has signed free agent OT Jared Gaither, formerly of the Baltimore Ravens. I already had a lot of trouble finding the offensive linemen the Chiefs will keep and the Gaither addition makes that task a little more difficult.
Chiefs offensive coordinator Bill Muir noted after practice on Wednesday night that, in a normal year, a team keeps eight active offensive linemen and two practice squad guys.
Remember, though, that to put someone on the practice squad you first have to waive them making them available to the rest of the league. Even then, players are available to other teams while on the practice squad so there's a strategy involved in who goes to the practice squad and who stays on the active roster.
So, as a review, here's where the Chiefs offensive line depth chart looks right now:
LT: Branden Albert, David Mims, Butch Lewis
LG: Ryan Lilja, Darryl Harris, Lucas Patterson
C: Casey Wiegmann, Rodney Hudson, Darryl Harris
RG: Jon Asamoah, Bobby Greenwood, Mike Ingersoll, Chris Harr
RT: Barry Richardson, Ryan O'Callaghan
The guys in bold are my locks at this point. I'm pretty confident all those guys will make the team, whether it's because they were a draft pick, or the clear starter, or a lack of depth behind them.
After that, though, who gets the final three spots?
I would guess at least two tackles -- Gaither, Richardson, O'Callaghan and Mims. All these guys have a reason for and against keeping them. We really don't know how healthy Gaither is but when he is healthy he's a very good tackle. The Chiefs have been looking at tackles so obviously Richardson's spot could be upgraded but with a month before the season I'm not sure they want to replace him. O'Callaghan, like Richardson, knows the system but he lost the job to Richardson last year so I'm not sure he makes it. Then there's Mims who shows a lot of promise and may not be safe on the practice squad but, at this point, that may be the only spot for him.
I would also guess a reserve guard is kept on the active roster. Right now, that would have to go to Harris, I think, unless Hudson can serve dual roles as a backup center and guard.
Muir talked a little bit about this quandary when asked about the reserve guys on the offensive line.
"Right now," Muir said, "Ryan O'Callaghan has played for us on a regular basis in previous years, he's fighting to get his starting spot back. At this time, he's the only veteran we have back there. The rest are free agent rookies and a couple of them have been kind of impressive but ti's a work in progress with them as you know. So it's a little early to be able to say they're going to be able to help us, if they're going to be able to help us and when they're going to be able to help us."
So...the Chiefs have some tough decisions on their hands.
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O'Cal is gone
Mims will stay bc idt he’d make it to practice squad. So we’d have 4 tackles, 2 C’s, and Greenwood and Harris to back up Lilja and Asamoah
But that's 10 O-linemen
Don’t see us keeping ten—eight is likely max, MAYBE nine given Gaither’s circumstances.
Eight is max on the active roster
Two on practice squad.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 11, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Never had an issue with AVG and AP
AVG is prolly just jealous
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Free version or the Paid version of AVG?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Free=no issues
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
No reason not to have the free version IMO
One of the better scanners out there
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I used to use it.
But I’m satisfied with Windows Defender/Microsoft Security Essentials. As long as you practice safe hex, those programs are more than enough, and pretty much never cause the type of problems being discussed here.
Eh I've never had any issues with or without it
It’s free, doesn’t mess with the system, why not?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Eset beats them all
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Eset is one of the better ones IF you pay for it
AVG is the best free version around.
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 12, 2011 5:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Because there is better AV software out there that are also free
The aforementioned Microsoft Security Essentials is my personal favorite for free AV.
Avira and Avast also make quality products for free IMO.
When I was running AVG, I received WAY too many false positives.
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by ChiefDog on Aug 11, 2011 2:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Yucky
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Mac & Cheese = no problem for me
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by Falcon58 on Aug 11, 2011 3:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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by aPacificChief on Aug 11, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to get my boss to change our companies anti-virus
:) Now I just have to figure out how to explain what the issue is
“See boss, I was on the message boards on AP when I got this strange warning….The report that was due, oh that’ll get done later. See what I’m trying to say is…”
What is the warning anyways?
No way to add an exception?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That's weird
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I've gotten the same thing at home.
It’s AVG + Firefox 5.0.1 for me.
It’s quarantining and freaking out constantly. At work I’m on FF 5.0.1, but work uses a different antivirus security suite.
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I should append that with the bit about being at work
No issues at work mixing FF with other antivirus suite
It’s just FF 5.0.1 with AVG that’s causing the issues for me. Constantly. Very repeatable.
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I'm on AVG and FF 5.0.1 with no issues
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hrm.
What OS?
Mine that’s freaking out is Win7 64bit with latest updates.
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Win7 64 Ultimate, completely up to date
Free AVG, Firefox 5.0.1
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Hrm, that gives me an idea
But I can’t try it until later tonight when I’m home.
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Do tell
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I usually lock down cookie usage a bit tighter than average
I’m wondering if SBNation uses Kiss Metrics for some advertising / web analytics (targeted marketing info) mining.
I’m still going on second hand info here, but heard recently that the newest FF build (and maybe AVG? Need to test it) persecute these kind of ETag / data mining setups.
Some info on Kiss Metrics / ETags here
Just something to try to rule out, since troubleshooting is all a big process of elimination anyway. And I do get a little annoyed that if I go to amazon or tigerdirect and look at some HD TV’s, I see nothing but HD TV ads (esp ones targeted at Tigerdirect.com) for several days on the computer I used to browse them.
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Newegg>Tigerdirect
Those ads are not horrible at times, othertimes completely annoying.
I’m still wondering what the issue is when I have not had a problem with AVG and AP and seems like everyone else has
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 12, 2011 5:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree. I like newegg better. But I price shop both, and several others.
But brought up TD because they’re the ones that have the ads that keep getting rehashed on me here at AP.
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I get newegg ads never TD ads haha
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 12, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize that 8 was the max.
When you say “active roster” is that the the 53 man roster or the game day 45 man roster?
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46-man, now.
I think he was referring to an interview Muir did where he cited those as the usual numbers for Olinemen.
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Good catch, I forgot about the elimination of the 3rd quarterback rule.
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Have our tech guys looking at it
Not totally sure, to be honest. It hasn’t hit me yet but I have heard of other users.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 11, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there really an 8 O-lineman limit?
Never knew about that. Or were you saying we’re probably not keeping more than 8?
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by Chief TigerGator on Aug 11, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok thanks
That’s what I thought, and I believe we’ll keep more than 8. Easier to keep Bannon on the PS, and maybe someone like Toribio or MIller too
Sandy Eggos goin down.
by Chief TigerGator on Aug 11, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I think bannon
will be PS, Cox will be Ir
I think we will have 9 OL’s and that only 8 will suit for games. But it might not be the same 8 every time.
by Bigcherokeechief on Aug 11, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
plus, nobody else in the league will have any OL
we will eat their QBs
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by Chief TigerGator on Aug 11, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we can just have Mims play the whole right side both RG & RT and play with an extra WR?
Imagine the possiblitlits? 4WR, 4OL, 2RB, & a TE
Then we’d throw opposing defenses in total disarray.
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by aPacificChief on Aug 11, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
If Denver thinks they can have an H-back play QB
Surely we can find an O-Lineman with delusions of grandeur
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by stenerud's roost on Aug 11, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
My guess...
Albert, Lilja, Weigeman, Asamoah, Richardson, Gaither, Hudson, Harris….With Mims being on PS.
Arrowhead pride addict
I think Greenwood and Harris are still PS eligible with that said...
I think Mims could make the roster and Greenwood and Harris find themselves on the PS
Arrowhead pride addict
by groundedchevy on Aug 11, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Most teams keep 8-O Linemen
RT: Richardson, Gaither
RG: Asamoah,
C: Wiegmann, Hudson
LG: Lilja,
LT: Albert, mims
after watching Mims at camp last night
…no way he makes it through waivers to get to the practice squad
Really? He made that strong an impression?
Honestly, I keep hearing that from everyone who has seen him live…
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My problem is I haven't managed to see him against Tamba or Wallace.
Or Studie for that matter. I don’t know if that’s purposeful by the coaches or just my bad luck. Maybe they’re keeping him away from the vets after the Dorsey thing. But he does look good against the 2nd tier guys in pass rush drills. Curious to see him in a game. I reeeeeally hope he goes against Bowers Friday.
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That'd be a great test
If he can hold his own against a much-heralded draft pick, that shows a lot more than beating down Gabe Miller in practice.
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Harris has been to impressive to cut
He’s the definition of a quality backup
Your inside line depth would also consist of the guys you have on practice squad.
If you’re talking about in-game, then yes.
Exactly.
Keeping Harris and Hudson gives us two players who can play all three interior line positions. Only keeping one of them leaves our depth looking really iffy.
Plus, what if Hudson takes Wiegmann’s job at some point? If Lilja or Asamoah go down are you comfortable playing Wiegmann at guard, or would you move him back into the lineup at center and shift Hudson? I think I’d rather just insert Harris.
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I don't like it either
Too many good developmental guys.
Weigmann surprise cut? Doubtful, but Asamoah backs up Hudson and Harris goes in for Asamoah at guard.
Or they keep 9.
I wonder about Weigman too.
You can’t really afford to cut him, but when you know that this is probably his last year, do you risk losing a potential starter or quality backup to the waiver wire.
Sucks cutting potentially good players
But much better to be in te situation of having to cut a good player than play a bad player.
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by Scaryclouds on Aug 11, 2011 1:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Not long after we signed him
Where have you been?!
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
He was a 5tech but got moved to Oline
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah worth a look see if nothing else
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Richardson stays.
Then it’s Gaither, Hudson, Harris.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
I poked fun at the Raiders when it seemed like they were pinning all their o-line hopes on Gaither.
But since we don’t need to rely on him to start at left or even right tackle, I like the signing (assuming he came at the right price). At worst he’s quality depth, at best we’ve seriously upgraded the tackle position on one or both sides. I’d guess that we’ll actually carry 9 o-linemen on the roster this year.
LT: Albert, Mims/Lewis
LG: Lilja, Harris
C: Wiegmann, Hudson
RG: Asamoah
RT: Gaither, Richardson
I could easily see us still carrying only 8, though, and trying to stash Lewis or Mims on the practice squad.
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If they carry 9, where does the extra number come from
Possibly only carry one FB? Bannon to the PS?
That's one possiblity that McClain gave us.
I think we also have a plethora of linebackers.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Problem with cutting down your LB's is that they tend to be the heart of your special teams
Don’t see Mims or O’Cally as a good gunner
So you're saying we have a plenthora?
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by TRSChief on Aug 11, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
No Mims is just chanting to himself....
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by aPacificChief on Aug 11, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Lewis is not going to make the 53.
Not this year, I think that the PS is in his grasp if he steps up…but he is not doing well in camp from what I saw yesterday…and Mims may be a fan favorite…but he is RAW…shouldnt be out there either this year…O’call provides the depth we need.
Either Mims or Lewis will be on the Practice Squad.
I don’t think both make the roster.
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Hence the slash.
I’m thinking the Chiefs will quite possibly keep Mims on the roster instead of the practice squad. I threw Lewis in there at the last minute because Haley and Pioli are crazy unpredictable and seem to like Lewis, too.
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If they go with Mims on the roster...
I would be fine with it…as long as he is not playing in place of an injured player…just getting a few pro snaps in mop up duty…that would be awesome…So I am not opposed to him being on the roster…just we need Ocall and B-Rich still..IMO.
Assuming that Gaither makes the roster
Do we really need to carry Albert, Gaither, Richardson, and O’Callaghan? If we’re going to carry 4 tackles I’m much rather it be a young developmental guy like Mims instead of a mediocre vet. O’Call would be, what, our 3rd string right tackle? Is he really worth keeping just in case Albert and either Gaither or Richardson get hurt at the same time?
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Butch Lewis
He was getting dominated in practice last night…in pass pro and 9v7 inside.
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Pretty clear
I know there are alot of Barry Richardson lovers here on AP but it is clear that the Chiefs are not satisfied with that position. I hope Gaither is healthy…a seemingly big if with this guy. I do not know what the price was for him but I imagine it was low which makes the some of the things I have read (including his injury history) and lack of willingness to play anything but LT a moot point. If he is a problem in any way, shape or form Pioli and Haley give him “the boot”. Big guy, big potential at a low price.
Because the Chiefs signed someone after other teams passed?
I know there are alot of Barry Richardson lovers here on AP but it is clear that the Chiefs are not satisfied with that position.
If they were that concerned, they’d have addressed the position long before now.
Maybe
Or maybe Richardson look last year, but is not looking good this year, so they have changed their mind.
by Bigcherokeechief on Aug 11, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
Thank you Tark for proving my point. Many Chiefs fans suffer from a disease known as “over estimation of current talent”.
by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Raiders fans
Mushin, Raiders fans are completely delusional in this regard. Chiefs fans are just passionate and sometimes call a 6 an 8.
by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Were you hanging out here during Croyle years? :)
I still remember watching Croyle push the team down the field for 90 yards in the pre-season game with Chicago and hitting this site saying, “You know, these guys aren’t half bad…”
17 cases of beer and two shoes through a TV later, I was officially disillusioned
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by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You're welcome?
Many Chiefs fans suffer from a disease known as "over estimation of current talent".
Apparently, so does Pioli, if you think the Chiefs just now decided that RT is an issue.
Actually
That is quite possible that he believed Rich would further progress and make it a non issue…..clearly that has not happened.
by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean clearly to you.
Just like clearly we have WR issues, in Matt Connor’s view, because we just signed a WR.
No
You can not compare the signing of a guy that has not even played in the league in two years to the signing of Gaither. I mean, you can but it doesn’t make any sense.
by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not the same, I agree.
But Gaither is not some highly sought after free agent that the Chiefs went and outbid for his services, either. He’s a low risk, high reward guy. If the Chiefs thought he was more than that, he would have been signed before today.
Agreed
But his “high reward” side, I believe, is meant to replace Rich at RT. I think our main difference in opinion here is what caliber of player it would take to replace Rich at RT. I believe he could be beat out by a relatively low profile type player…….while you believe it would take someone considered to be a more “elite” player to take his position????
by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
Our main difference in opinion is that you think the signing proves the Chiefs are concerned about RT. Whereas I take it as them trying to potentially upgrade their roster.
OK
Yep, you have a man crush on Rich :) Tell me, are there any positions on the team that you have a concern about? Or are the Chiefs just loaded everywhere and in need only of “upgrades to depth”?
by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
I hope Gaither is healthy and can start. I’m only saying this signing doesn’t suggest any concern by Pioli. Hoping to upgrade a spot is not the same as being concerned about it.
And to answer your questions, I’m not particularly concerned with any starters, though at least most of them could be upgraded. You should always strive to get better.
When
you are talking about players at the level of Rich upgrading is the exact same thing as being concerned.
by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You said I have a man crush on T-Rich.
Even though I’ve barely talked about him. I think it’s you that has issues with him, not me. I’d love to upgrade RT, with Gaither or someone else, but I don’t consider that issue a major concern, and obviously neither do the Chiefs.
It is B-Rich
Yes, I do. Quite frankly I think he is THE weak link on offense
Obviously, to you….. because obviously when the Chiefs don’t spend big money to bring someone in it means that they are not concerned about the position…..how do I express sarcasm????
by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Right.
B-Rich.
It’s not just about spending big money, but the fact that they didn’t bring in any serious competitor for the position until today, and he has major question marks. (Which is why he was still available today.)
Good chat
Thanks for the chat Tark. No offense with the man crush thing, probably an unnecessary remark. I guess we will find out all things starting tomorrow night.
by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Cool.
We’re both basically on the same page, in that we want RT (and other positions) to be upgraded. We just disagree on what this signing means. No biggy.
See this is why I love AP...
Great discussion.
Go Chiefs!!!!
No name calling? No troll accusations
Discussion fail.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
+100000
BRich is not good…Anyone that can be brought in to possibly push him harder or push him out is good in my estimation.
How did you get from here...
Our main difference in opinion is that you think the signing proves the Chiefs are concerned about RT. Whereas I take it as them trying to potentially upgrade their roster.
To here?
Yep, you have a man crush on Rich :) Tell me, are there any positions on the team that you have a concern about? Or are the Chiefs just loaded everywhere and in need only of "upgrades to depth"?
Worst job following an argument ever. Ever.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I think it's so Geither can play the swing tackle role
and backup both RT and LT. Whether or not that ‘s to keep Mims on the 53 man roster is my question. He may be the insurance policy at tackle to allow Mims time to learn the position and keep some pro snaps. H’s never had a coach dedicated to his position before, so he has a lot to learn.
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by Carter Walker on Aug 11, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Lots of pre-season football here, the question is, does Haley/Pioli try to hide Mims
If we don’t see him on the field it’s probably a pretty good indication that they are going to attempt to slip him onto the PS and keep him out of the eyes and thoughts of the rest of the league
Mims is a greenhorn UDFA. I can't see a team in need of a tackle
would take him off our practice squad. They want a player who is NFL ready.
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by ChiefsChance on Aug 11, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't that how we lost Lilja to Indy?
With all the AP hype it will be hard to hide that elephant in the room full of smerfs.
by paulredfish on Aug 11, 2011 3:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ha ha
No, he just means we lost Lilja to Indy because we tried to stick him on the PS. Mims is a raw, physical freak. He could be The Answer to the RT problem. COULD. We just don’t know. That’s why we play preseason games. To evaluate talent.
My 8 Lineman
Weigmann
Lilja
Asamoah
Albert
Hudson (backup C)
Richardson
Harris (swing G)
Gaither (swing T)
I think Mims plus one more go to the PS. I don’t think O’Cal will take the PS. They might try to trade him. It’s hard to say. The only other option would be to consider the possibility that if someone like Lilja gets injured, they slide Albert inside to LG and plug in Gaither at LT. The biggest factor to look at here is multi-functional lineman. If they could play another position in case of injury, it gives you more flexibility. You could keep 2 backup T’s instead of 1.
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There is always that chance.
But I trust the current administration much more than the one who lost Lilja. Not to say they couldn’t make a similar mistake, but I’m not overly concerned. After all, Mims will tell them whether or not to put Mims on the PS.
O'call may not be gone...
I thought he was the starter until he got hurt…Richardson seized the opportunity last year…but I think the competition is back on now with Gaither being the unknown…
I agree.
I’m obviously not a professional o line coach or anything but Ryan has looked every bit as good as B-rich so far in camp imo.
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Aug 11, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
O'Callaghan may have been Mr. Right Now
He was a last-minute desperation sign off the Patriots practice squad. Pioli needed a body. Wouldn’t surprise me that they think he’s reached his ceiling.
Yea.
I can see us parting ways with O’Call next year. Whether it’s because Gaither, Mimms or both workout. Or we draft a stud tackle. But I wouldn’t be at all suprised if he stays around this year.
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Aug 11, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He's at his ceiling, but you need O'Cally type guys on the squad
Inexpensive, quality depth that flesh out your team and act as a veteran presence. The question is do they think they have a better O’Cally than the one with the name on the back of his jersey.
Doesn't look like it to me.
Mimms just isn’t ready yet. Gaither probably isn’t all the way healthy or in shape.
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Aug 11, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if they will put Gaither on the PUP list?
It would make sense. Give everyone a little more time to prove they deserve the spot since we have not had OTA’s to let them fight it out.
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by MountainManMike on Aug 12, 2011 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions
If someone grabs him..
Doesnt he have to be on there 53 man roster…they would have to be pretty desperate to “steal” a raw unknown UDFA to play this year..
Under the old CBA
a player signed from another team’s practice squad had to be placed on your 53 man roster for something like 3 weeks. That’s a big chance to take on a UDFA tackle. I don’t know if the new CBA changed that rule.
Pretty sure it's the same.
But I’m unclear on whether the same thing applies to picking someone up off of waivers, which would have to happen before he ever makes it to the PS.
Exactly.
He has to make it to the PS first before that becomes an issue. I might not make it there, even though I think you roll the dice in this instance. I’m not sure I keep him over anyone else. IMO, he’s our 9th OL with the 8th being the cut-off for the 53.
Maybe they will get creative and have only 1 FB and 3 RB on the 53 to have an extra OL.
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Thought sometimes it just works that way
He is huge and gifted, but so raw that it’s hard to see any team sticking him on the regular roster that is trying to compete. And that may be the only way a team can hold him. Buffalo maybe? Or Hey-Zeus forbid, Denver
Idk...I think that's how it works...
And if I was a good team needing tackle depth I wouldnt go after Mims..maybe a really bad team that wants to upgrade their depth and is willing to play him right away…
I sure hope not
That wouldn’t be good for Mims or the team, and could end up ruining the kid’s confidence
there are a lot of teams in the NFL with little tackle depth
to develop a guy like Mims behind a vet, is a shot worth taking
BOOM!
However.
If I were a team “with little tackle depth” who thought enough of him to put him on the 53 as a backup tackle, don’t you think I’d draft him? I’m not saying he’s a slam dunk to clear waivers, but I don’t get this thinking that other teams have their eyes peeled on the waiver wire, waiting for him to become available.
Uhem Tark, last I checked we used to have a pretty fair guard who was an UDFA
I hear the Waters are churning in Dallas now
by paulredfish on Aug 11, 2011 3:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
why spend a draft pick on a guy that leaguewide was a consensus UdFA
if I missed my shot at him because I felt I needed to go in another direction, I would love to take him for free
BOOM!
If you think he's that valuable.
You don’t take a chance on signing him as an UDFA. Most people thought Bannon was a reach, but the Chiefs didn’t want to take a chance on someone else signing him as an UDFA. Obviously, they had no such concerns for Mims. What has changed since then, other than the hype on AP?
If he's truly doing that...
Then I have no worries about the Chiefs exposing him to waivers and the PS.
other players were more valuable at the time
spending a draft pick on someone and being willing to are two different things. I know this, my cousin was told by the packers that they would draft him in the 7th on draft day if he was available, they called after their selection to apologize and offer him a contract, stating they felt they could land a player they really wanted AND him.
BOOM!
I think the Lilja situation is just still too fresh in most people's mind.
He was an udfa that rightfully got a lot of hype and praise in preseason. We tried to put him on the ps and he gets picked up by Indy and has a super bowl ring.
That's such a rarity.
It seems silly to be concerned about it. If Mims shows the Chiefs that he’s a great prospect, they won’t risk him by putting him on waivers. Yeah, they could be wrong, but I’ll take my chances with their opinion. They seem to know a little bit about what they’re doing.
Let's also remember who was running the show back when that happened
I have a little more faith in Pioli
I agree.
I trust the this front offices football decisions much more than Carl Peterson’s. I just think that many fans remember that situation and see the natural raw ability of the 2011 AP Mancrush of the Year award winner and worried about history repeating itself.
Offensive line seems like one of the hardest positions to scout, because it takes so much instinct, technique and smarts to play the position. So much of the time the great O lineman do not develop into great or even good players until deep into there college careers. The reality is that we could have a rare diamond in the rough that could be lost if we try to put him on the ps.
Of course.
Every organization makes mistakes, no matter how good they are. Still, I don’t think we should be afraid of exposing a player who nobody thought was worth drafting, just because he might turn into something.
Nobody thought Priest Holmes was worth drafting either.
Good and great players do slip through the cracks. Hell our current coaching and front office staff didn’t even suit up Jamal Charles for something like 2 or 3 games during their first year here. Evaluating talent has to go beyond height, weight, 40 times and college conference. Some players just need to be given a chance and the confidence to know that they belong in the NFL.
Did you even read what I said?
Yes, there will be mistakes made, but that doesn’t mean you should be afraid to move forward.
Don't you think that him playing against D2 talent his whole career had something to do with him not being drafted?
It seems like the only argument for him to not make the 53 man is because he wasn’t drafted. I don’t get it, IF he is one of the best 53 then shouldn’t he make the team? In the end does it really matter if he was drafted or not?
Probably.
But what has changed since then? He still hasn’t played in a game against anything higher than D2.
I’m not arguing against him making the 53; I’m only saying that people are overrating his value to other teams.
I see what you're saying
I simply think that O tackle is a position that is so valuable that I wouldn’t overrate his value to other teams.
His "value" led to him being undrafted.
That’s all I’m saying. Yeah, maybe someone might change their mind, but I just don’t seen any reason for the angst. Just because he’s an AP legend doesn’t mean other teams feel the same way.
The draft isn't about "how good is this player"
It’s about "where can you get the guy you want. When the Raiders picked Mike Mitchell in the 2nd round (?) a couple years ago, everyone said it was a bad pick. I heard the argument “well what if he turns out to be a HOF safety?”
Still a bad pick.
The reason it’s a bad pick is not because he’s a bad player. The reason it’s a bad pick is because the Raiders could have gotten him for MUCH less than what they gave up. They could have used their second round pick on any number of guys that are currenty building a productive career right now (LeSean McCoy, Mohammad Massaquoi were picked shortly after him, for example), and still picked him in the 5th, 6th, maybe the 7th round. A significant portion of the league had him as a potential undrafted guy to look at, and a few teams didn’t have him on their boards at all.
TL;DR version: It’s not about whether the guy is good enough to be worth it, it’s whether you needed to pay that much to get him.
I like being in the situation
where they have to worry about losing cut players to the waiver wire rather than a just a few short years ago of which guy who sucks the least to put on the starting line.
Mims is huge and exciting
Just not ready to play yet. He’s a great Practice Squad guy, and no team could afford to make him their 3rd Tackle.
Not even a team that is going nowhere fast and has no OT prospects?
Carolina, Buffalo, Cincy, Denver, etc…
You have to think your 3 OT's are going to get substantial playing time
There’s no room on a 53 man roster for a super raw developmental OT. He’s a practice squad guy, unless some team thinks he can play now. It’s not worth carrying a guy on the roster who isn’t ready to play some.
KC did it with Studebaker
He was not ready at all, but had potential. We stashed him on our regular season roster and stuck him out on special teams.
I agree with you that it is unlikely, but OT’s are hard to find. Now if a team would hold 4 OT’s and give up inner line depth it might work.
Difference being that team had zero depth of talented quality players.
This team has much much more.
That's my point though, not for KC
But a team with absolutely no depth and no hope of winning might be willing to stick him on the regular season roster just to develope him.
I think its a different situation
1st, Studebaker was a better prospect. He was a 6th round draft pick.
2nd, he did help out on special teams. Linebackers are easier to carry than a massive tackle who can’t do anything else.
We could lose Mims, but I don’t think so. It’s a calculated risk, and I’d take it, just because I’m not conviced we’re giving up someone who will ever be a quality tackle.
I agree, just playing chicken little
If this team wasn’t trying to get to the next level this year we might have held Mims. But you can’t worry about a developmental guy when you are trying to win now.
But that’s not a fun argument. :)
And I think it's just too extreme of a development project
to worry about someone else investing a roster spot in it.
Interesting to figure out where Mims would fit in if Gaither does work out(gets healthy/etc)
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
If Gaither is healthy, we aren't talking about whether or not we should move Mims
We’re talking about whether he should be on the PS and who is leaving town.
I would imagine
Our two more vetern OT’s would fill be first in the line up as Mimms is learning.
I don’t know, Pouncy worked out for the Steelers as a Rookie. we might have one or more Rookies that could do the same.
by Bigcherokeechief on Aug 11, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You can get away with that with LB
because they naturally make good special teamers. Not so much with offensive tackles.
If one of those teams thought he was worthwhile
then why didn’t they draft him? People keep forgetting Mims was an undrafted free agent. Odds are he will pass waivers and make the practice squad unless he completely lights it up in preseason games. If that’s the case then he’d probably make the final roster anyway.
Is Gaither eligible for the PUP?
Makes a lot of sense to stash him there for the first however many weeks, let him get in shape/healthy and learn the system. Then make a decision.
very good idea
I can see that happening. gives KC times to figure what they have and keeps Mims on the roster. If he goes to FA, he will get picked up by someone, like the Lions or Bills.
No way on Lions
Stafford is too important to protect to carry a tackle who isn’t ready.
Mimms to IR
Don’t be shocked it somehow Mimms has a last minute injury..So he doesn’t get plucked off the practice squad..Seems to happen now and then…just a thought..lol
by cyberry on Aug 11, 2011 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This team does seem do come up with these magical injuries.
The Urban one last year really comes to mind.
seems to me Richardson
was already injured this year
by Bigcherokeechief on Aug 11, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Mimms..I would rather him practice
with the team, even on the practice squad but if there was a chance of losing him….last minute injury IR
I was thinking the same thing..
Just have Hali lineup with him a dozen times…and he will get to sit out this season…unless…he is so good he destroys Hali…in which case start him!
Jamie Dukes?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Mims is a big man, and he needs to eat
why not feed him Jamie Dukes as an appetizer before his main course, Blue Whale Sushi.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.
by Sudden on Aug 11, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome position to be in
Some other team will pick up a good lineman when we have to make our cuts. Just like the posts in front of me – no more lame FA pickups after another team makes a cut.
My picks: Albert, Lilja, Wiegman, Asamoah, Gaither, Richardson, Hudson, Mims
Think we start out this way.
LT- Albert, Gaither
LG- Lilja, Harris
C- Weigmann, Hudson
RG- Asamoah
RT- Richardson, Ocall
Mimms is way too raw at this point. He goes to the PS with Lewis. I like Ryan so I think we keep him and maybe send Bannon to the PS to make room for a 9th olinemen.
I’m also thinking the pup list might be good for Gaither to get healthy and in shape if need be.
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Aug 11, 2011 2:08 PM CDT reply actions
You're probably right, but it's no fun
Who doesn’t want the undrafted super-star diamond in the rough that ends up in the HoF?
Call me old fashioned, but I'll wait until I've watched the preseason game tomorrow
before I speculate on who deserves a spot and who doesn’t.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.
by Sudden on Aug 11, 2011 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Logic?
"The Chiefs only won last season's opener against the Chargers because of the monsoon that night".........yeah because it only rains on one team at a time!
by Hail2DaChiefs on Aug 11, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Richardson, Gaither and Harris
Harris and BRich can play multiple positions, making them more valuable then the rest.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
damn beat me to it.
Im not in a 4G network
by CHIEFFAN82 on Aug 11, 2011 2:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
think we'll release weigman. (in madden mode)
gaither rich
Asomah Harris
Hudson
lija
Albert mims
sorry nazis on a mobile
by CHIEFFAN82 on Aug 11, 2011 2:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What is the deal with this Mims-charecter?
I mean he wasn’t drafted, yet people seem to think he’s the next great thing. Why does people have that perception of him? We haven’t even seen himin a pre season game yet.
It's more of a joke at this point
Somebody was on here a couple days ago basically calling him the 2nd coming of christ, and it’s taken on a life of it’s own.
Predictions:
KC will be a Superbowl favorite in 2012
everyones looking at the mesurables
U can’t teach that size and injuring Dorsey was the icing on the cake…(not the injury but the overpowering) of arguably our best lineman. Its taken on a life of its own
by CHIEFFAN82 on Aug 11, 2011 2:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wasn't Hudson the one going against Dorsey when he injured his knee?
by ChiefDailyBaked on Aug 11, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
im almost positive it was mims
But hey i could wrong
by CHIEFFAN82 on Aug 11, 2011 5:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We'll see in a couple years
I think Bannon is going to become a very good NFL fullback. Plus he probably would have ended up in NE had he been undrafted.
Predictions:
KC will be a Superbowl favorite in 2012
What do you bet
Either Mims or Gaither ends up on IR? Gaither already has back issues, and Mims could easily develop a mysterious injury…They wouldn’t have let Waters go if they weren’t happy with Lilja, Asamoah, and prolly Harris as the guards, and with Weigs and Hudson we are set at C, so if they carry eight linemen the tackles are Albert, Brich, and either Mims or Gaither. They could keep both if they carry nine (maybe just Cassel and Stanzi at qb or maybe just McClain at fb with Bannon on the practice squad,) but it seems unlikely. Putting one of the giants on IR would give them a year to figure it out without exposing Mims to waivers.
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
IR doesn't make sense
for Gaither, he’s a free agent next year so there’s no point. For Mims, it would just slow his development since he’s not able to practice.
Predictions:
KC will be a Superbowl favorite in 2012
That's true if in fact it's a one year deal for Gaither
But do we know that’s the case? Even if it is, then we get a decent comp pick n ’13 if he leaves in FA and starts somewhere else.
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
It makes some sense for Mims.
They could hook him up with a personal trainer, and he’d have a full offseason next year. It doesn’t make sense for Gaither, unless they signed him to a multi-year deal, which I doubt.
Gaither goes to PUP for first 6 weeks
With Richardson & Mims staying on the active roster. This gives Gaither 9 total weeks to get healthy/lose weight and learn the system. When he comes back Mims gets snuck onto the PS.
Predictions:
KC will be a Superbowl favorite in 2012
by jmcgoblue on Aug 11, 2011 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure Mims clears waivers, esp if he spends half the season on the active roster...
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
THIS^^^
Just like the Eagles did with Steve Smith yesterday. Acquire a talented – but injured or out of shape – player, place him on PUP, and give yourself some insurance in case a starter goes down, or in case the talented player regains form.
Unfortunately for O’Callaghan, I think we keep Gaither after that point. If Albert gets hurt, Gaither can play LT. If a G goes down, Albert can move inside and Gaither can play LT or RT (RT if they switch Richardson to LT). More versatility with Gaither b/c O’Cal can’t play LT.
If Mims is as good as everyone says he is, I don’t think he makes it through waivers if we cut him with hopes of him getting onto the PS.
So, to start the year:
LT: Albert, Mims
LG: Lilja (Harris)
C: Weigmann, Hudson
RG: Asamoah, Harris
RT: Richardson, O’Callaghan
PUP: Gaither
Nice delaying tactic, jmcgoblue.
It’s possible Lewis and/or Mims have the coaches thinking up-side, and they’ll try to protect one or both of them.
Gaither might just be a fantastic fit for the Chiefs, maybe arriving at Body by Haley on his OWN before the 2010 season, and getting slapped in the face for it. The fact that he came into camp at 311 is pretty weird, though. Certainly not what you expect in a 6’9’’ tackle.
Kind of like how I felt about drafting NT high. You see lots of potential in more than one guy, but you have questions about all of ’em, too. In such a situation, stringing out the final decision seems logical.
The trouble is, there’s a lot of this going on all around the team. A plethora of LBs, DBs and WRs also in this game of musical chairs. Personally, I hedge toward OT, myself, but I’ve never seen a GM with the same proclivity.
would of ≠ would've
Who?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Any info on the guy? Heard the name before but thats it
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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Played for the Bears and Pats. 2009 he took over at safety and had 79 tackles 4 passes deflected and 3 forced fumbles. He was was IR last season with some sort of chest injury. He is nowhere close to being a starter but would be solid competition for a backup spot with Sabby. Honestly I’d like to see us bring in Atari Bigby as a backup.
SuperMims (slightly OT)
I just did some research about D. Mims and found very encouraging words that I wanna share with you, fellow arrowheads:
I haven’t got many bad things to say about Mr. Mims. I’ve come out of the film room dramatically impressed with his abilities. Call it a scouts’ instinct, a hunch, or even a man crush, Mims stands out to me. I don’t only see a ten year starter in the NFL, I see a dominant player. While watching him on film, I feel like I’m watching something special. Rarely ever am I drawn to an offensive lineman like this, let alone one this size. I’ve spent this entire offseason baffling at those enamored by Nate Solder’s frame, and now I find myself sold. Sold on a 6’8 offensive tackle from Virginia Union, a college so small, that he wasn’t able to enjoy an offensive line or a strength coach.
link
9er/chiefs fan from berlin – berlin is in germany – not a native speaker – mistakes may occur
Did bigdaddysuperfan write that? Or was it Chuck Norris?
The newest mathematical constant: David Mims > David Mims. Mathematicians everywhere must reluctantly agree.
Bottom line in the article puts you right back to square 1.
Sure, try to develop him, but not without solid vets to actually put on the playing field in 2011.
would of ≠ would've
I see a lot of talk that signing Gaither means he will surely be in the team
Don’t be surprised if he is one of the first cuts this season. Injury, bad attitude, lazy, any number of the rumors about him could easily lead to him being a roster casualty. Curious to see what his contract is (guaranteed money) to determine how likely that is
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Aug 11, 2011 2:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
If he's on the 53 week 1, his contract is guaranteed
I think your scenario, or the one that puts him on PUP to start the season are the most realistic.
Maybe 9 on the OL and then only 2 TEs or 1 FB?
If neither Richarson nor Weigmann are surprise cuts and they like Mims and Harris too much to expose to waivers, I could see them going with only 2 TEs (Moeaki and O’Connell) since Bannon was a FB/TE in college and the extra OLman could be a “blocking TE” in short yardage situations. Or Bannon to PS if they want to keep Pope.
My guess is that either Weigmann, Richarson, or Pope gets cut.
by Chiefs_KC on Aug 11, 2011 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This is what I'm thinking.
3 TEs and 2 FBs seem like overkill. Especially with all that we have at RB and WR now. I rather have a little extra o line depth. There could potentially be a lot of injuries along the line for all teams this year.
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Aug 11, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus.
Bannon seems safer on ths PS then Harris or Mimms.
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Aug 11, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
3 TEs is not overkill for this team.
There are a lot of LBs and DBs (as there should be).
would of ≠ would've
2 TE's, 2 FB's
Bannon becomes the swing player at both positions: #2 FB and #3 TE. I think O’Connell gets cut though, and Pope stays.
Does Pope play special teams at all?
I know O’connell does. Not sure about Pope. I’m going to watch the playoff game tonight. I like the idea of Bannon as a FB/TE. The more things you can do, the better chance of making the team.
by Chiefs_KC on Aug 11, 2011 2:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He was released
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
Or it's possible they still keep 2 FB and only go with 2 tailbacks
since McClain has experience carrying the ball.
McClain definitely frees up a FB/RB spot.
It’s nice to have a hybrid who can do both. That seems to be the Pioli/Haley way.
Does that mean Battle is expendable?
Is that where we get the hole for another OL?
Sandy Eggos goin down.
by Chief TigerGator on Aug 11, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd say yes
Even though he looks great in preseason going up against 3rd and 4th string defenses, I have yet to ever be impressed with him in real game situations. Mediocre RB’s are a dime a dozen these days.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Aug 11, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
All depends on Gaither's condition
I wouldn’t be shocked to see him land on the PUP if he is not ready to play. O’Cal, Mims, and Hudson to back things up- That way you can keep an OT with experience in the system around while Mims comes along a bit. Hudson can back up both guard and center, or you can throw Harris in as well and keep 9 on the roster. Then when Gaither gets up to form mid season or so, release O’Cal and send Richardson to the bench.
"They should expect everything..." -Eric Berry
Exactly what I was thinking
Gaither starts on PUP or short term injured reserve, then he doesn’t count against your 53, then when he’s ready – O’Callahan or Mims goes to Practice Squad, which ever they think they can get away with – probably Mims, if he’s that raw, he’d have to go right to someone elses 53 man active roster (so that team would have to make room).
And if Gaither is never ready, he doesn’t go active, he goes on long term injured reserve or gets cut.
Mims Experiement - OVer
Means one thing… Mims to the practices squad and if he doesn’t make it through No big deal…
(throws large object at Tipzz)
Chiefs Revised FA Wish List: True NT and a Solid RT. I'll take McClain too. Say NO to Moss and Owens. Also, pay them: Carr, Flowers and Hali.
Titans finally wise up.
The Tennessee Titans are ready to make Chris Johnson the highest-paid running back in the NFL. The general manager says they just need him to show up in training camp to finalize that extension.
Ugh...
This could affect our future with Charles.
Chiefs Revised FA Wish List: True NT and a Solid RT. I'll take McClain too. Say NO to Moss and Owens. Also, pay them: Carr, Flowers and Hali.
Not for awhile.
CJ was due to make only about $900K, whereas JC is on a brand new extension. By the time JC is in a position to hold out, he’ll probably be pretty much used up anyway. Sad, but true.
very pleased with this addition
we’ve been fortunate in the injury department, and we were only above-average at best in pass protection, with a thin group—last season’s horrorshow in San Diego had as much to do with atrocious offensive line play as with the sudden need to use Croyle.
Gaither may not be the ideal guy for what we need, given his health, but we needed the extra body.
by nickpapagiorgio on Aug 11, 2011 8:29 PM CDT reply actions
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