Five Things To Remember About Jared Gaither Signing With Chiefs
by Joel Thorman on Aug 11, 2011 11:16 AM CDT
in NFL Free Agency 2011
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs signed OT Jared Gaither on Thursday and the move has been confirmed by the team so he's signed, sealed and delivered.
We don't know much about the signing yet but here are five quick initial thoughts on the move.
We need to know if he's healthy. Gaither missed five games in 2009 and all of the 2010 season with a back injury. The Raiders shied away from him last week, presumably for health problems. The Chiefs signed him so apparently they feel he's healthy enough. This signing may take some time to evaluate as we figure out where he stands health-wise.
We also need to know which position he'll play. Will it be the right side or the left side? If it's the right side, maybe he's competing for a starting job. If it's the left side, what does that say about Branden Albert? Basically the question is whether he's coming in to compete for a starting job or a backup job.
We need to know what kind of contract he received. I don't know the contract numbers but I would guess it's a cheaper, short-term deal. With a guy coming off injury needing to prove himself, that's the best thing to do, in my opinion. He needs motivation to stay in shape and get healthy -- pining for a long-term contract can be that motivation. If we haven't heard his contract numbers being thrown about, it's a good bet they're not very big.
Gaither is the third former Raven signed this offseason. If you can't beat 'em, you might as well join 'em. If I had to pick three teams to pluck players from, the Ravens would be on that list. Not a bad strategy, Chiefs.
The Raiders wanted to sign him. Last week it was reported that the Raiders agreed to terms with Gaither. His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, denied that. The Raiders ultimately didn't sign him. So we took one from the Raiders.
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Please, forgive me...
I recall reading an article someone posted in a Free Agency FanPost earlier in the Free Agency period. I thought it was about Jared Gaither’s partying ways. The article stated that he got so wasted before the Pro Bowl that he didn’t even make the game. Am I mistaken for another player that some of us had interest in? I just can’t remember. Help me.
It's great to finally trust the men making the important decisions at 1 Arrowhead Drive.
Think you're thinking of Bryant McKinnie
He skipped the Pro Bowl.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 11, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
YES!
Thank you. You are absolutely correct.
It's great to finally trust the men making the important decisions at 1 Arrowhead Drive.
by OnlyKCFanNVA on Aug 11, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Chiefs could have drafted McKinnie
But took DT Ryan Simms the pick before MINN took Bryant
I think you're talking about Bryant McKinnie, LT Vikings
"Reject a woman, and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind. Also, weak arms."
-Dwight Schrute
Yes, thank you for helping me get that straight...
It's great to finally trust the men making the important decisions at 1 Arrowhead Drive.
by OnlyKCFanNVA on Aug 11, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
can see the mixup...two big, known for being overweight tackles....
difference here in mckinnie and gaither….and when I say this I understand there are many differences, but the difference to ME, is the zorn factor. he knows what we’re getting
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
The Jim Zorn connection
Three Ravens must like Zorn. Also, Breaston came from AZ and he wanted to play for Haley.
This is a good sign.
'Nuther interesting tidbit from his official website:
“Closest friends in football: Teammates Troy Smith and Le’Ron McClain and Branden Albert of the Chiefs. "
Nice
That helps the transition.
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
by Matt_Grbac on Aug 11, 2011 11:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And hopefully makes it less awkward if there's a competition (big if)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
by MNchiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
They're the 3 best friends that anyone can have!
by Michael Douglas on Aug 11, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
That is rec'd
"The Chiefs only won last season's opener against the Chargers because of the monsoon that night".........yeah because it only rains on one team at a time!
by Hail2DaChiefs on Aug 11, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Great movie
My favorite quote from it is when they ask the er doc for directions and he replies… “It’s at the corner of getamap and fuckoff.” And the “paging doctor faggot” bit was great, too. Funniest movie in a long time…
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
Intesting for sure.
Hopefully Troy Smith doesn’t find a way here too though
"Baseball is 90% mental. The other half is physical"
-Yogi Berra
did he have a surgery on his back?
what do we know about this back injury?
Good sign.
Maybe the difference between KC and Oak is that here he gets a chance to rest up and we can actually afford to pay him to do so.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Back problem is severe, but may be due to his weight.
I guarantee that Haley has this guy lose 25-30 pounds before he sees any playing time. If he can lose some weight and get in better shape he’ll be one hell of a tackle for us, and his back problems may be less problematic. The more weight on the herniated disc, the worse the symptoms. So it seems like losing some weight would help. Considering what Haley did to these guys in his first year, I don’t doubt that this is a condition of his being part of the Chiefs. I’m interested to know what the contract looks like, but for now it seems like a low risk, high reward move by the front office.
Go Chiefs!
Losing weight, I'm with ya
but losing 25-30 pounds? The man’s 6’9 for christ’s sake, The absolute bottom end for his frame is 320, and that may be pushing it a bit.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Naa. He's at the perfect weight right now for 6'9 for a RT.
He may lose 5lbs but I wouldn’t want him to lose more than that.
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra
He actually worked himself down to 311 before 2010 season
and Harbaugh wasn’t pleased with that – details are in this article
Also some tidbits about his injury – note that this article was from Aug 25th, 2010
"It’s not spasms," Gaither said. "It’s a thoracic disc injury."
… should be back in two to three weeks. However, a California back specialist told Gaither the injury could linger as long as six weeks.
“It’s not a serious thing, but it’s going to keep him out for a couple weeks until it settles down, because it’s what’s causing the spasms apparently,” Harbaugh said. “He’s going to have to work as hard as he can, and we’ll have to try and work it out.”
and here’s where some of the “attitude” comes in
…clashed with the team when they wanted him to report to the offseason conditioning program before eventually relenting.
…injured his foot one practice after being shifted from left tackle to right tackle during a minicamp and was sidelined for all but one workout.
Working out on his own and not under the supervision of the team, the 6-foot-9 lineman got down to 311 pounds from his playing weight of 340 pounds last season to the obvious frustration of Harbaugh.
I know this is old, but I couldn’t find anything new other than Drew Rosenhaus saying he’s 100% healthy and ready to roll. I trust Drew to shoot me straight about one of his players about as much as I’d trust sexassasin with my hot 20 year old daughter (who doesn’t exist, calm down). Consequently that’s about as much as I trust the Raiders assertation about why they didn’t sign him.
So either he is healed from his back injury, or it was more severe than anticipated – which is a bad sign.
But we also see from this that Gaither is capable of shedding some pounds and playing lighter, which is interesting.
by Ochophosphate on Aug 11, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting stuff.
Seems like he’d actually prefer to play lighter, maybe for health reasons. Maybe that’s part of why he decided to play in KC, he knows they won’t make him carry more weight than he’s comfortable with.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Yeah I thought that was interesting too
Especially since he shed nearly 30lbs on his own accord. Usually you hear of fatties getting fatter in the offseason rather than the other way around.
The positive there is that he’s capable of doing it, and like you said, he might even prefer it.
To top it all off, we don’t know if his back is still an issue – nothing has been stated, written or proven at this time other than Drew The Screw claiming he’s 100%. Though we have to assume the Chiefs wouldn’t have picked him up if he had a lingering serious medical condition.
by Ochophosphate on Aug 11, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Last OT we had that had back problems
Turned out pretty good for us…led the way for Priest and wore number 77…
Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem.
Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985
Hmm...
Kyle Turly also had back problems if I remember right and he didn’t do so well on our line.
Live Adventure!
by MountainManMike on Aug 12, 2011 3:27 AM CDT up reply actions
He kinda sucked to begin with
IMO…wasn’t a big fan of Turly before he came here.
Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem.
Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985
It's not what you know, it's who you know.
Todd Haley, Jim Zorn, and Co. seem to like this as a summer theme.
by PistolRepeatKC on Aug 11, 2011 11:24 AM CDT reply actions
Not a fan of this move at all.
The kid has serious work ethic issues and health issues. He was turned away by a Raiders team that’s in desperate need of OT help. Not a fan at all.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
i didnt think the Raiders
turned him away. The PFT reports that he was signed by them said the Raiders thought the deal was done. that would indicate they wanted him, but he didnt want to go there?
Someone jumped the gun and the story later changed to them wanting to sign him pending a physical
The day after he was there to see their training staff they said it was a no go for them.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 11, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
If he's best friends with McClain and Albert,
then maybe he just wanted to be a Chief over a Raider.
by PistolRepeatKC on Aug 11, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Bottom Line is...
The guy is a Chief now, hopefully he’s here to bleed red and play hard. (and stay healthy!)
by PistolRepeatKC on Aug 11, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I recall that Willie Roaf came to us with a history of chronic ailments.
He looked as if he could barely walk but the dude was a monster on game day.
At worst Gaither will be quality depth, He may take time to work into a position, He may step right in at ROT , He may step into LOT and move Albert over to ROT or even end up at a Guard. Any help that Gaither provides will be a plus. IMO this is a WIN – WIN for the Chiefs.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Or
maybe since Oakland has a bad history, it would have required A LOT of money for him to go play there. Be on a playoff team with a few friends or play on a historically crazy franchise?
Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.
Silver and Black
Wait a minute , Gaither is healthy enough to play ?
reorts are that Gaither signed with the chefs today … i thought he was’nt able to pass a physical in oakland
Followed by
and before the grammer nazis attack , i spelled it chefs on purpose , fuckers just signed our RT ,
by aa420 on Aug 11, 2011 12:40 PM CDT reply actions
Ahhhhh. smile
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
He is worred about spelling it 'chefs' when he can't spell 'report' or even 'wasn't'?
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
meh...
Raiders Fan
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
We should totally shank him.
At least that’s what I would say if I were a raider fan. Just typing that made me sick.
by bossmanham on Aug 11, 2011 1:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Or grammar
that’s the funniest one
Sandy Eggos goin down.
by Chief TigerGator on Aug 11, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Grammer was on his second statement, I was just pointing out the first one shesh settle down peoples!
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Raiders fans
Nah Gaither’s back sucks. The Chiefs can go suck one. They just got him for intel and to bench him.
He’s not ready to play and we will just break his back even more if he does play against us.
Plus I remember he retweeted something (which means he agreed to what was said) about although he is not 100% He is still better than Barnes. So it means he is not totally healthy.
We just got him for intel apparently.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably about how bat shit crazy Al Davis is.
But then again we didn’t need a 25 year old OT plagued with back injuries to tell us that.
I totally do not understand the mind frame of Raider fans
Do they all think they are ‘tough’ or do they think its OK to act so retarded?
Someone fill me in!!!!
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I am going to hell...
for laughing so friggin’ hard at this picture. I seriously cannot stop laughing. You sir, are a bish for bringing out my inner demons. Aaaaaannnnnd rec’d…
PICTURE ME SLAPPING THE TOUGHEST GUY YOU KNOW!!!
KCCHIEFSFAN72!!!!
by kcchiefsfan72 on Aug 11, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
funnier than that?
grammar has nothing to do with spelling.
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
appropriate
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
What’s sad is that I could totally see myself being the guy in green haha.
The year I worked at Arrowhead for my first job ever, the Chiefs were 8-0 at home. I think that the Kansas City Chiefs should pay me to go to the games so they always win
Great googily moogily.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
But if the contract is right there isn't much risk.
He either works out for us or he wears a different uniform. Pioli/Haley won’t carry a bad player for long. They only carried LJ as long as they did because of the contract they didn’t write.
I worry about the guys conditioning more than anything. Haley might kill him.
I feel ya, I'm on the fence too..
Everyone’s pissing themselves with excitement, but this guy comes with more baggage than 747.. Hopefully its a short-term on cheap deal so we can just test drive…
Thank the tiny infant baby Jesus we will have football!!!!!
Why did it take a week and a half for us to sign him then?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 11, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Not trying to be a Debbie Downer
I’m not about to get excited about this guy until he does something to change my mind.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 11, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Its understandable. I can see the concern.
I just think Pioli has done a lot of research on this guy or we wouldn’t of signed him..
True enough.
Just hope his contract isn’t worth much more then a couple ham sandwiches and a bag of doritos.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 11, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
It'll take a lot more than that to feed that guy
He’s a big big dude.
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
I'm skipping lunch today
I’d probably sign for that
Sandy Eggos goin down.
by Chief TigerGator on Aug 11, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
For the type of player Gaither is...
I would pay him with some KC BBQ AND THEN…the bag of doritos.
There's no hope with dope...
Lets hope he's not just signing up random guys...
…like a 9 year old playing Madden franchise mode. I have more faith in Pioli than that. He’s done a good job so far IMHO.
by PistolRepeatKC on Aug 11, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing here but maybe
We we waiting for him to come to chiefs terms not what he was requesting salary wise
by mdchiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 11:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
GB, I have my concerns
but, if they signed him, they must know more than we do:)
by stagdsp on Aug 11, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like maybe
They have an NFL caliber team of physicians check him out before they signed him to a deal? NEVER!!!!
"You guys line up alphabetically by height."
--Bill Peterson
Not A starter
But maybe with some Chiefs developmental programing, could end up being a solid player. Remember unlike our other AFC West occupants, we try to develop players for the years to come while working at the right now.
"Oh I'm Sorry I Thought This Was AMERICA"
by porkchop_sandwiches on Aug 11, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
most were unimpressed with us signing Shaun Smith last year
Give it time, see what comes of it. There must be something there to work with, if not see ya later.
by mdchiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 11:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Have you heard the names Dwayne Bowe and Derrick Johnson?
"It's not always going to be pretty; and that's alright..."
Those that wish potentially fatal diseases or other ill-fortunes on others, are the LOWEST form of trash!
Actually the raider turndown is a good sign
They found out the work ethic stuff was bogus, which made them realize he wouldn’t fit in with the rest of the team at all.
S’all good!
Keep on matrickl ... Keep on matrincl ... Keep on matripl ... GO CHIEFS!
by Halfbreed on Aug 11, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Being with Albert and McClain might help with the work ethic issue.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Maybe more talented at football
but how good of a country singer is he?
Sandy Eggos goin down.
by Chief TigerGator on Aug 11, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
He needs some helmet-throwing lessons too
at least he’s already got some tattoos
by Ochophosphate on Aug 11, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I would say maybe, but this is new leadership.
"Oh I'm Sorry I Thought This Was AMERICA"
by porkchop_sandwiches on Aug 11, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Turley was about 4 inches shorter and 70lbs lighter
As far as the injuries though, Turley had surgery to repair a disc. Gaither has not had to have surgery for his problems (yet).
Silver and Black
The mans trash is another mans treasure
Chiefs Just signed Jared gaither
by angelraiders on Aug 11, 2011 10:33 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
*one
by angelraiders on Aug 11, 2011 10:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 11:28 AM CDT reply actions
What about D. Mims?
Twitter: RaiderHater86
by ExRoyalsFan on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Mims vs. Gaither
6’8" 330lbs vs. 6’9" 340lbs. Put both of these guys on GoalLine, HUGE HUGE HUGE red-zone threat..haha
Imagine a Rice/Charles RB duo?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 11, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Rice's contract is up after this year...
Reed and Berry?
Ngata and.. well only need Ngata on the Dline
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Then he would technically be
the Flaccup
by Ochophosphate on Aug 11, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Flaccup holding for Succop....
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Golden
nice connection – that made me smile
by Ochophosphate on Aug 11, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Are there any other Ravens free agents that are left?
Just want to know who else we are going to bring in. Not that I am complaining, I love the pickups so far.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
Haha
Marc Bulger, maybe T.J. Houshmandzadeh not sure on that one. Haha
"Oh I'm Sorry I Thought This Was AMERICA"
by porkchop_sandwiches on Aug 11, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
This is all that is left.. Don't think we will snag any of them.. lol
C:Sanders, Daniel
RB:McKie, Jason
WR:Houshmandzadeh, T.J.
LS:Houser, Kevin
They released a DT too didn't they? 350lber
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Houshmandzadeh
Hell we’ve already signed 4250874536 other receivers. Might as well add another
The year I worked at Arrowhead for my first job ever, the Chiefs were 8-0 at home. I think that the Kansas City Chiefs should pay me to go to the games so they always win
I think we should just sign every FA receiver left out there. Have a battle royal.
top 5 to survive make the team.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
TRIAL BY TAMBA!!!!!!!!!!
Try to block Tamba! If you live, you win!
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
by Brsrkr on Aug 11, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
He's at least mobile
and has that Thigpen ability to make plays out of nothing. I am really surprised the 49ers went Alex Smith over Troy.
by theaxeeffect4721 on Aug 11, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I think they're going to be disappointed with him in a 4-3
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 11, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Think he's going to play DE
to which seems like a waste for someone who can play 3-4 OLB, but he can definitely pressure the QB. Think he played DE at Miami as well but cannot say for sure.
by theaxeeffect4721 on Aug 11, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Already signed with the Jags
which seems strange. Why the Jags when he’s a good SOLB? Oh well. I was hoping the Chiefs would sign Roth as well. But Gaither is just as good.
by theaxeeffect4721 on Aug 11, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah I have to say us signing roth makes zero sense to me.
I just dont get it
we have the room to carry gaither, I dont see the room to carry roth, we’d end up cutting a guy at OLB that we have had for awhile with the team
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Pioli is beefing up the OT position.
He is adding massive developmental players! I freaking love It!!
not worried about Brandon Albert's side
he’s been holding his own all camp with Hali no?
KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),
twitter
Holy shit, I didn't see that coming
I guess ‘The Blind Side’ is now the story of a former Raven.
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
It was until I was Blind Sided by this signing
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
by KC_Satchmo on Aug 11, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you blindsided him with your ravens/cinema knowledege.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 11, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
My Dad's middle name is "Blind Side"
There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.
(thoracic disc injury )
I like this signing, but the guy also had a neck, foot and toe injury in 2009.
He is huge, but can he stay on the field.
Everyone says back injuries too, but the Ravens listed this as the problem, which is:
Thoracic disc injury, first described in 1838, is an uncommon site of injury owing to the stabilizing effect of the rib cage.1 The similarity of symptoms to lumbar disc herniation makes the diagnosis of a thoracic disc injury difficult,[2, 3, 4, 5, 6] but the process tends to be self-limiting and rarely requires surgical intervention.
Interesting
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 11:42 AM CDT reply actions
also... back
Common Thoracic Herniated Disc Symptoms
Presenting symptoms of a thoracic herniated disc often correlate with the size and location of the disc herniation. The herniated material may protrude in a central, lateral (sideways), or centro-lateral direction with the majority having a central component. Typical symptoms for each include:
Central disc protrusion. This type of herniation usually causes upper back pain and/or myelopathy, depending on the size of the herniated disc and the amount of pressure on the spinal cord. There is limited room around the spinal cord in the thoracic spine, so a thoracic herniated disc can put pressure on the cord and affect the related nerve function. In serious cases, a thoracic herniated disc can lead to paralysis from the waist down.
Lateral disc herniation. When herniating laterally, or to the side, the thoracic herniated disc is more likely to impinge on the exiting nerve root at that level of the spine and cause radiating chest wall or abdominal pain.
Centro-lateral disc herniation. This type of thoracic herniated disk may present with any combination of symptoms of upper back pain, radiating pain, or myelopathy.
I wonder the severity, and the placement of the injury.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
In serious cases, a thoracic herniated disc can lead to paralysis from the waist down.
does not sound good at all…
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm more worried about this guy
suffering paralysis from the neck up
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
by KC_Satchmo on Aug 11, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That really won't matter if he can't stay healthy
It is well worth the risk though IMO.
If he failed a Raiders physical… he might have some lingering issues. Even if it was only a slow forty time.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
It will matter if his reported work ethic issues are true
Can you really see Haley tolerating lazy?
I like the risk we took with this guy. But it is a risk…
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
If he isn't working hard he will be cut
I am not worried about that at all.
If Haley can motivate the guy, he obviously wants to play, but in KC he will have to earn it. So to me, his health is the main concern.
He is either in the rehab area getting better, or he is not a Chief IMO.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just like with the Kelly Gregg signing
The presence of Jim Zorn and his insider Ravens knowledge, makes me feel more comfortable about this signing.
We can all speculate about Gaither and his issues, but Zorn at least knows what happened first hand.
So that helps.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
If he isn't health he'll just be cut.
By your standard his health isn’t a risk either.
The risk is that we waste our time with him then have to cut him. It’s not the end of the world and I said I like taking a chance on him. But there is risk that he will fail here and being a lazy bitch is part of that risk.
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
It is only risky in the sense of the Chiefs wasting time...
If he doesn’t work out the Chiefs wasted their time, but if he does work out then the Chiefs gained a good football player.
This just doesn’t seem like a team that will put up with much attitude… either way. It is low risk – high reward. Maybe he passed the Chiefs physical and that is why he signed so late.
This move is better than them doing nothing, by a long shot.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
This move is better than them doing nothing, by a long shot.
Agreed
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I'm curious how this pans out
So far, the guys who SEEM to have had issues falling in line (Pollard and Page are prime examples) have been jettisoned very, very quickly.
Others who struggled with attitude or laziness (DJ, Bowe, Dorsey, Albert) fell in line and are thriving (well, Albert to a lesser extent than the rest).
Which will he be? He’s gotta know if he can’t hack it in KC he’s not going to get squat for money elsewhere.
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Other than a small contract
The chiefs didnt take a risk. It is not as though we got Gaither at the expense of something or someone else. If he comes in and doesn’t perform the Chiefs will cut him and we will be now worse off than had we not signed him at all.
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by Scaryclouds on Aug 11, 2011 1:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
your posts remind me of somebody who has a headache and starts looking on google for what it might be, and by the end of the night you are convinced you have a terminal illness
hehe
by fongKC on Aug 11, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My interwebz research indicates that you probably have some form of
Dain Bramage
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If your interwebz reseach was reading AP comments
You’re probably right.
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
it happens just like that...
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meh...
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by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't sound terrible, but they may have been optimistic
In one of my replies above there is a link to the article when they found out it was a Thoracic Tear. Original diagnosis was 3-4 weeks but potentially up to 6 weeks.
That doesn’t make it sound too serious but of course they might have been blowing sunshine or just flat-out wrong. The fact that they didn’t recommend surgery makes it seem that they didn’t think it was that serious.
by Ochophosphate on Aug 11, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
He failed the “all players must run a sub 4.5 40 portion of the physical”
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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 11, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I did not know it was possible, I thought all you had to do is show up.
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by porkchop_sandwiches on Aug 11, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, they physically did not have enough cap space to sign him.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Didn't fail a physical, heres what happened.
He was there on a visit, confirmed by Hue Jackson. People reported the Raiders signed him, his agent denied it. Next it was confirmed he wasn’t signing with the Raiders but there was no reason of why. So the info was never released as to why he didn’t sign, your guess is as good as ours
by RamX21 on Aug 11, 2011 12:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Holy Crap!
Those folks on Wikipedia don’t waste any time, they’ve already got the guy listed as a Chief!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Gaither
Just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys.
good Signing... But he'll have to work to stayb healthy
I like this signing… if the contract will keep him motivated.
I am confident he can rehab his back to the point its better than before the injury!
For one reason… Mike Clark.
Clark is the Chiefs Strength Coach and he is VERY good at rehabbing players bodies after injuries. His whole-body program will strengthen Gaither’s back.
the only question is if he will do the work.
He’s only 25 yrs old. He can come back this injury.
This is impossible to believe
According to ap people, pioli doesn’t know how to sign anyone who wasn’t previously a patriot or a cardinal. =)
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How about Smith? Not a Pat or Card..
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Was connected to Romeo though.
There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.
However not a Pat nor Card which is what was stated
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
clearly i'm taking a shot at everyone who said last year that pioli was short sighted because he only
would bring in ex patriots and ex cardinals. i will try harder to sound more sarcastic in the future. =)
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Or how about the other 2 Ravens we signed this offeseason...
For a total of 3 for the math challenged out there.
"They should expect everything..." -Eric Berry
Lukewarm on this signing
Work ethic issues, doesn’t wanna play anywhere but the left side, that back injury. A back injury for someone that tall on the line is an issue, he has to force himself to play low, a lot of stress on the back.
Here’s to hoping he was just frustrated at the signing of Oher and being immature because he’s so young.
by RamX21 on Aug 11, 2011 11:56 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
remember though
Le’Ron ran a campaign to carry the ball more, but did a 360 when he came here.
So he's still campaigning to carry the ball more?
by Tarkus on Aug 11, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're forgetting another possibility.
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by MtHammer on Aug 11, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I agree. if he's 25 now
When they drafted Oher he had to be like 23. Very young, probably just handled the situation wrong and now he’s grown up a little
by RamX21 on Aug 11, 2011 12:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Then they just get rid of him.
And they’re no worse off than yesterday. Unless they gave him a big contract (extremely unlikely), it looks very low risk to me.
by Tarkus on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
very definition of low risk Tark. great signing. wish it would have happened sooner.
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by chiefsinchina on Aug 11, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
The risk would be a roster spot.
If he takes a roster spot from a promising youngster, and then we have to cut him halfway through the season.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
That's a risk, yes.
But I wouldn’t consider it high risk. If the Chiefs were that deep on the line, they wouldn’t have signed him in the first place. When your #2 LT is an UDFA rookie, you really don’t have a lot to lose.
It's low risk
but that risk should not be discounted. What if Mims really is the second coming of Roaf and we give his spot to Gaither only to find out that Gaither really is a lazy, hurt bitch and Mims is now a Donkey?
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If the Chiefs even suspect that Mims has half the upside we on AP do they won't risk moving him to the PS
Frankly, I’d cut O’Callaghan…he was always a “meh” guy as far as I am concerned
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Chiefs even suspect that Mims has half the upside we on AP do
We’d have drafted him.
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
If Mims was half the man some here say he is
He would have drafted the Chiefs in the 1st round.
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
UDFA guys
change the thinking of caches all of the time in camp and throughout their rookie seasons.
Then by the following draft review everyone says they should have been drafted. It happens every year.
They could be thinking they should have drafted him now, or they could be thinking he is garbage. We shall see.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Chiefs even suspect that Mims has half the upside we on AP do
We’d have drafted him.
in the 1st round ;-)
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Mims was obviously worth the #1 overall pick
I mean, if you can block the other team’s 4 defensive linemen with just 1 offensive lineman, that leaves room for eligible linemen to run screens and short routes into the flat ;-)
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Not necessarily.
They take into account what other teams think of players, too. Else we wouldn’t have waited till the sixth for Powe.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
It makes you feel better that every other team thought he wasn't worth a draft pick?
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
Instead of listing every UDFA that turned out right,
I’ll just assert that SD would never have had their recent success if it wasn’t for agent Smith stumbling over several good players that every other team passed on.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Instead of listing every UDFA that turned out right,
Which would take a lot less space and effort than listing all those who didn’t turn out.
I hope Mims works out….I hope he’s the greatest player in the history of football. But the idea on this site that the Chiefs couldn’t possibly risk losing a UDFA (who none of us has even see play yet is laughable.
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To be fair, that IS a running joke about Mims, not a real opinion.
It’d be more accurate to say that he seems like the most promising of our UDFA linemen.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Fair enough
and I wasn’t attributing that opion to you by any stretch. It’s just that the “If the Chiefs even suspect that Mims has half the upside we on AP do they won’t risk moving him to the PS” is what basically started this conversation.
At any rate….good talk.. I’ve enjoyed it. ;) Truth is we’re all just picking nat shit out of pepper on this situation.
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And that comment of mine was tongue-in-cheek
I have no idea what the Chiefs think of Mims
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotcha
I didn’t take it that way, but I haven’t been around for all the Mims jokes….my bad.
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Those comments reminded me of something.
David Mims can pick hay out of a needle stack.
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I loved him in Saw III
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that actually sounds easy
meh...
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by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
David Mims can win a tic-tac-toe game in two moves.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Wasn't the big knock on him having crummy competition, wasn't it?
I think the “upside” stuff didn’t start until he (apparently) started manhandling our scrubs in practice. So the draft isn’t really an issue here…
I’d like to see them say, “screw it, let’s see if he’s got even a fraction of what it takes” and throwing him against Hali for a few series in a row. If he manages to not get completely humiliated, then don’t put him on the practice squad.
How hard is that?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Yup. He's the vet most in danger.
Not that there’s very many vets to choose from.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
agreed
I think Mims makes the Roster, but we still could lose a promising rookie UDFA like Lewis to another teams PS.
In that sense it is a risk, but it is still worth it IMO.
Scott Pioli must think it is worth the risk too.
Also, to counter that point I would say that Gaither could be cut before the season if the Chiefs don’t think he will work out in the long run.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The number one rushing game in the NFL
Grabs WRs to spread the D, plus McClain to lead block and Gaither for goal line jumbos… This offense is going to be absolutely f’ing scary!
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
I like this move...
No worry on Albert because he has been that left side against the League’s best rusher pretty damn well and, if and when he’s healthy enough to start (which I believe it’s a matter of when and not if, since Pioli signed him) he can move to the right side and start and show BRich how a nasty RT plays in the league. I don’t see him as a concern on his drive to play, but much like Shaun Smith, how nasty he plays. He gets intense during games and plays with a lot of passion. It’s builds great depth at our OL where we needed it. Nice one, Pioli. Keep up the good work…
There's no hope with dope...
Body By Haley will turn Gaither into a mauling MANIMAL.
For depth alone this would be a good signing…. but potentially it could be a GREAT signing.
"You don't call retarded people retards. It's bad taste. You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded."
As I view this...
1. this signing basically puts the heat on O’Callaghan; put up or hit the road.
2. Mims is destined for the PS.
3. if gaither can play LT, it provides depth in case Albert were to get hurt.
4. I dearly wanted the Chiefs to draft this guy in the supplemental drfaft the year he came out…it seems to me he came out around the time Roaf was nursing his sore hammy, which caused him to retire
this signing basically puts the heat on O’Callaghan; put up or hit the road.
Put up what? The same mediocre OT play he’s been putting up for years? It’s pretty safe to assume we know exactly what we get from O’Cal,
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Wouldn't worry about the reports that Raiders' doctors failed him.
The docs can’t be too good because they keep telling Al Davis he’s alive.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 11, 2011 12:10 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
That's only because they can't explain his existence any other way.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
by Aiken_Drum on Aug 11, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Resident Evil, baby
Who’s a better candidate to be the head of Umbrella Corporation than Dead Al?
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That legal mind is working over time again!! :)
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Not a fair comparison
They’d be fired for telling him otehrwise
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by KC_Satchmo on Aug 11, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Al Davis
farts mummy dust.
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
by nmchief on Aug 11, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I hate when that happens.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
It gets all over the room
And you can see it in the light too, just nasty
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Aug 11, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
His is the TBS version
Yours is HBO
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I figure if the video posts on AP,
so does the written word…
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
I just hope that tackles taking swings at Steve Hoffman
is not a trend. This dude could really hurt somebody.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
yeah, what is he, like two inches shorter than Gaither?
and Gaither won’t weigh 340 after Body by Haley
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
my guess
- Gaither starts as a backup
- Haley forces him to cut weight and work hard in practice
- Albert-Lilja-Weigmann-Asamoah-Richardson start the season as starters
- either at the end of the year, or next year there are several awesome scenarios:
Albert-Lilja-Hudson-Asamoah-Gaither
OR
Gaither-Lilja-Hudson-Asamoah-Albert
OR
Gaither-Albert-Hudson-Asamoah-Richardson
Ryan Lilja was our best offensive linemen last year.
I don’t love that third scenario.
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But all jokes aside, Albert is probably an All Pro G
And our line would be YOUNG.
Still, you have a point.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
you may want to qualify that
Lilja was our best run blocking lineman last year. Waters was the best in pass blocking.
In your third scenario, your RT is the third-best pass blocker.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Heh, I thought about that after I said it. I'd like to see Lilja one-on-one with Hali.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Gaither-Harris-Hudson-Asamoah-Albert?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Gaither has the skills to play LT at a very good level
IF he can get healthy not only does it make Albert work harder for competition but it also could push Albert to the right side, not saying it will happen and there are a lot of if’s butttt we may not have to draft a LT in the first round next year!
He did beat out Oher at LT, then complained about being moved after the fact.. hopefully if there is an open competition the best man wins and stays at LT
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
Gaither makes B-Rich and Albert better
They both really needed a true threat behind them to steal their jobs and they have that now.
Either way if Gaither stays healthy and keeps his head out of his ass. The Chiefs win.
meh...
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by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
if Gaither stays healthy and keeps his head out of his ass
He isn’t pushing for anyone’s starting job. They’re trying to push for his.
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It will be nice to see how Branden Albert responds to that.
I am not sure Gaither (even Healthy) can just ride off into the sunset with Branden’s job. He will have to earn it.
Branden Albert is a good LT. Especially for the run.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, BRich is pretty clearly the odd man out
as he should be. Who plays which OT spot between Albert and Gaither falls into the “I don’t give a shit” category for me. Whichever one does a better job of pass protecting gets the left. The other becomes one of the premier RTs in the league.
Assuming all the IFs about Gaither work out, of course…
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Definitely makes the rest of the preseason a lot more interesting.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
True story
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I was just thinking that...
Hopefully we see some battling going on between B Rich & Gaither. Or maybe we’ll have Gaither backup Albert, and see how he stacks up at LT.
There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.
For all the excitement
I bet we see Gaither in the rehab area for most of the Preseason, if not all of it.
The Chiefs number one goal will probably be to get this guy fit and healthy,
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Depressingly, you're probably right.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Riding the bike for a couple of weeks
may be the best thing for him.
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A little humble pie and Body By Haley
Never hurt anyone
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
satire
Gaither-lilja-wiegmann-asamoah-mims
Branden Albert and B- Rich cut… the Chiefs really do think they are terrible.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 11, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Gaither-O'Call-Albert-Mims-BRich
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
mims-mims-mims-mims-mims
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
I was waiting for it...
"They should expect everything..." -Eric Berry
It was obligatory.
Just fulfilling my duty.
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
and, if he doesn't..
the Chiefs are right where they are now… or a little better for the competition
Yep
The only potential negative is that if he forces O’Call off the roster & ends up getting hurt…and then B-Rich or Albert get hurt.
Predictions:
KC will be a Superbowl favorite in 2012
Losing two offensive tackles to injury is a potential negative for every team
and would screw almost every team
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless you have a $160 million pay roll.
Then you win the Superbowl.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
I agree, I think we all saw OT as a weak depth position and possible weak starter RT
This move could be huge, or could be nothing at all(doubt his contracts that large and he can just be set free)
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
hopefully if there is an open competition the best man wins and stays at LT
No hope is necessary – that’s one of the things I like best about Haley – when he says everyone competes for a each job, he means it…
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Cept ya know.. Jones technically starting and being #1 RB last year..
haha
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
And this year too
An even bigger haha
"They should expect everything..." -Eric Berry
I can confirm that he did fail the Raiders physical
Apparently Al wanted to sign him at QB. That guy really misses JaMarcus.
Do we get a supplemental pick if he plays well & leaves after this year?
Even if he plays well I don’t really trust him to continue that after getting a longer contract. It’d be nice if his signing gave us a 1-year stopgap plus a supplemental pick in the ’13 draft.
Predictions:
KC will be a Superbowl favorite in 2012
Only if he goes somewhere else
and plays well there. What he does here is irrelevant.
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
Yep, I think the only thing that matters is how much action the free agent sees the season after he leaves his old team
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 11, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Cool
Wasn’t sure if the deal applied to players who weren’t originally drafted by KC.
In that case, here’s to Deep Freeze making the pro bowl at DT.
Predictions:
KC will be a Superbowl favorite in 2012
We signed too many FAs this year
I think money plays into it as well as playing time, and we gave out too much. We got a starting NT, FB, and WR, and payed near $10 million for the three. I doubt we see any comps next draft no matter how well Smith plays.
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
Next year, though
we should lose a lot better FAs and see some decent picks in ’13…
"Me and Matt Cassel just fucked you up, dog!"
Damn, look at you go Pioli.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
was worrierd when oakland was going to get him....ill trust zorn wouldnt lead us to someone we dont want
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
worried*
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Agreed.
I think this is being overlooked a bit. Zorn should have a very solid idea of the history regarding his injury history, how the guys handles recovering from injury, etc. If he was going to be a long term health or major work ethic risk, I would doubt we would have picked him up.
"They should expect everything..." -Eric Berry
Roaf or Turley?
This one has the potential to be either but it’s definitely worth a risk because the back disc injury. It sounds like he was great when he played in Balt (especially for run game) but that he begged off alot and had conditioning issues. Alot of fans in Balt hate him, that’s for sure, and portray him as a primadonna sellout. But fans, as we know on AP, can be pretty crazy sometimes.
I don't understand the fuss
The Patriots go out and sign players with bad attitudes, work ethics, etc. all the time. They either turn them around for a year, make a run to the playoffs (again) and then set them free when the have either used them up or developed talent behind them. I think this is the kind of model the Chiefs are using to get into consistent rotation and depth at all positions.
They have SB rings and Brady
Thats the difference
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 11, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
mobile rec 3x's
This is why we call it PRE season if it doesn’t work, he’s off the team in 3 weeks. Its genius in NE but suspect in KC? Come on guys have faith!
by CHIEFFAN82 on Aug 11, 2011 2:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I bet you say that to all the guys
The Chiefs and I have mutually agreed on this decision and although I look forward to continuing my career, I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Kansas City.
Here's a different thought train for you
What if we signed him to a three year deal. Put him on IR this year, let him rest up and train with our top notch strength and conditioning team while learning the offense.
Then for the next two years we have one of the best Tackles in football on the cheap. Could make Albert expendable should we need money to pay Flowers, Carr, and Bowe
BOOM!
really??
I think he is there to either replace Richarson, and or push him.
by Bigcherokeechief on Aug 11, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been saying that this was going to happen around AP since he pushed the
coach and pitched a tantrum last year. Oh, it’s gonna happen, it’s just a matter of the right timing for the Chiefs.
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra
Of course I was brutally beaten and left for dead by some members for
saying it. But it is what it is. I’m not ready to say I told ya so….yet….but I will be soon. lol.
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra
B-rich being replaced.....would not at ALL directly link to one blow up during a game....cmon
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
My contention is that that's what started the ball rolling. You just can't go around
throwing tantrums and shoving coaches on the sidelines, during the most critical point of a football game, and still be considered one of the right 53. I just think it still weighs in the back of Pioli’s and Haley’s minds, and when the time comes to make a decision on which RT has to be cut, and it’s a tie, that’s what will drive the final decision to go ahead and part ways with B Rich.
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra
No one thought we'd be bringing in two RT's to try to dethrone him either so
they could get into a position to release him, but they did.
I havn’t been wrong yet.
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra
Nice signing.
I scratch my head over the work ethic issues juxtaposed with the story of how he pissed off Harbaugh when he lost weight on his own.
I wanted to see somebody with a legit shot. Gaither fits that bill. Hope he likes the new digs and digs the new team.
would of ≠ would've
Just some scuttlebutt
The Gaither story may go something like this: selected in Round 5 of supplemental draft. Starts 33 games (including the 5 playoff games) playing at a high level but low salary, like $900,000/yr at a position that knocks down $5-$8 MIL/yr. Hurts his neck in the backfield pileup. Suddenly realizes career risks, develops bad attitude about the low pay. Signs the $2 M/yr tender offer and says “screw you guys,” stays home and eats the Oreos for a year. Takes the physical for the Raiders, they say “you’re only 90% recovered, we’ll pay you half what you asked.” Offers same retort he gave Ravens in 2010, KC looking pretty good to him. Surely Zorn, Gregg and McClain wouldn’t steer us wrong?
I like your story
better than the other speculation. :>)
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Possible.
Sometimes it’s easy to forget these guys really might not NEED a job for a long time after their first contract if they don’t piss it all away…. Looking at the Raiders situation, if there was even a tiny doubt about the contract, he might easily be able to afford to just walk away and wait for something better.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
I just hope this is not another Mike Goff signing.
People thinking he was going to be awesome while not wanting to see the truth until it kicked us in the balls in the regular season.
Live Adventure!
by MountainManMike on Aug 12, 2011 3:33 AM CDT reply actions
goff was over 32 at the time. Gaither is 25 or 26 years old. big difference.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
and gaither isnt being asked to start like goff was, then failed
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
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