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Observations From The Kansas City Chiefs' Monday Afternoon Practice

From the FanPosts. Keep these well-written practice reports coming. We can't front page every one but they are most definitely read by lots of people. Thanks. -Chris

To follow up on my post about this morning's walk-through practice, I thought I would share some observations about the Kansas City Chief afternoon practice. For about half of practice, everyone had pads on. About half way through, they all (except the QB's) went to the middle of the field and took their shoulder pads off. 

Tony Moeaki participated in opening warmups but spent most of the afternoon's practice in the rehab area - a lot of time on the bike. 

More after the jump:

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At the start of practice when they players run the shorter distance of the field to warm up, Jonathan Baldwin was the first one to finish the run each time. Not that it's a race or anything, but it does show that he's getting after it. 

After warmups, Jim Zorn worked with the quarterbacks on a drill that seemed to be based on avoiding a would-be-sack. The QB's repeatedly went through this drill where they would take the snap, drop back a few steps, and then Zorn would say "now" and they would go through a motion with their arm to avoid the imaginary pressure and then step to the side and throw. In the next drill, they practiced scrambling and throwing after the scramble. Hopefully the QB's will keep an even cooler head in the pocket thanks to Zorn being around. This is pure speculation, but I bet Tyler Palko appreciates having a left-handed quarterback coach. 

The offensive line, defensive line, and OLB's participated in the drill that Joel and others have described in the past few days where one d-linemen or OLB goes against multiple o-linemen. Today, it was one-on-four. Todd Haley told the group before that segment started that it needed to be productive, but said "if anything gets out of hand it's over." There were usually four O-linemen, and whoever was playing on defense would line, linemen or OLB, up at their usual position and then battled against the offense which usually came down to a one-on-one struggle before it broke. Most of the fans were interested in this segment, and a lot of the coaches were as well. There were other drills going on throughout the fields on offense and defense, but Scott Pioli, Todd Haley, Bill Muir, Gary Gibbs, Romeo Crennel, and others were all focused on this drill. Allen Bailey seemed (not that I can evaluate like a coach) to do well in this drill. Toward the end, he got a strong push on the o-linemen and Todd Haley said "do that again with the same group, please." So they lined up again and Bailey again seemed to do well. 

During the QB's target practice, there were aiming for a barrel and the fans reacted when Jim Zorn hit it. Zorn's accuracy was mixed through the day as he did hit that target but sometimes when throwing a ball back to a QB during a drill they would not be able to catch it because it was a few feet away. Zorn would laugh those off. 

Later, the offense lined up without the defense and worked on running passing routes. The wide receivers and running backs were all involved in this. Haley got on to Veran Tucker after he dropped a pass in this drill. Haley spent some time talking to Charles in McCluster about what looked to be like fundamentals when leaving the line of scrimmage and going out for a passing play. It involved a lot of Haley running in place to demonstrate what he was explaining. Thomas Jones looked good while running passing routes - seemed very sharp for his build. 

During the special teams segment, Haley shouted "Mayday" and they practiced getting into field goal formation quickly. Succup was 3/3. While the special teams group worked on punting, Cory Greenwood was very vocal and was shouting things out according to how the defense lined up. 

When the offense and defense lined up in 11-on-11 drills, Todd Haley's main focus seemed to be on awareness. He would say "show me we're learning" and "it's not gonna get any easier than this." Cassel was on target with most of his passes, making some nice throws to Dwayne Bowe and Jonathan Baldwin. Baldwin had a nice catch and went to the ground after securing the ball. The play got some cheers from the stands, and Todd Haley told him from across the field that if he gets in shape he won't have to fall to make that catch. I paraphrased that comment for the coach. 

Haley also blew the whistle before the ball had been snapped and quizzed Demond Washington (not Donald) about the down and distance. Washington was quick to respond with the correct answer of 3rd and 9. 

McCluster seemed to practice with running backs through all of the practice, but did line up as a wide receiver once or twice in 11-on-11 drills. 

Kendrick Lewis intercepted a Ricky Stanzi pass. Haley told Stanzi a couple times that he needed to get rid of the ball faster. 

Maurice Carthon called one of the players an idiot. At least I'm pretty sure it was  him- toward the end of practice he didn't have his trademark gatorade towel hanging from his shorts so it was more difficult to tell. He and WR coach Richie Anderson can look very similar from the stands. 

Bill Muir pulled Chris Harr from the offensive line after two consecutive penalties. He shouted "get me a new left guard." On the first of those penalties, Eric Berry threw his towel in the air to signify a flag. 

One pass bounced of the hands of either Jeremy Horner or Terrance Copper and looked like it was going to be picked off. It ended up being caught by WR Chandler Williams. 

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan

by MtHammer on Aug 1, 2011 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice update and rec'd,,,,,,,,,,,,,

thanks

Providing COLOR commentary for Arrowhead Pride! AKA The Picture Diva!

by LadyChief on Aug 1, 2011 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm loving the breakdowns we're getting from practices

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 1, 2011 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes we are :)

I love the guys and gals here on AP

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 1, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blush. :)

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

We follow the lead of your mustache.

It is what it is and we are who we are.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
Not all those who wander are lost. /////// I dont mind stealing bread.

by nateforchiefs on Aug 1, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

A throwback 'stash..

To the chiefs of the 70s?

Profile Image courtesy of 'christoffer'..

by chiefsfan62 on Aug 1, 2011 9:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I expect us to get stock options before SBNation goes public

thank you very much

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome!
Bill Muir pulled Chris Harr from the offensive line after two consecutive penalties. He shouted “get me a new left guard.” On the first of those penalties, Eric Berry threw his towel in the air to signify a flag.

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Bailey sounds like he is doing well so far.

That is really good news since we can’t be sure about TJ yet.

by TheQ on Aug 1, 2011 8:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Why can't we be sure about TJ

We’ve seen him play well in the pro’s. Bailey has yet to take a snap in the league

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

there was a practice report from this weekend

That described TJ as lagging on the sprints, and the first one to give up on the sled drills. I hope that this is just a conditioning thing, but it also doesn’t sound like a guy coming out with something to prove. Believe me, i hope am way off base as i want TJ to knock ‘em dead and the #3 overall pick we gave for him won’t be a bust. Just glad to here that we may have a backup plan.

by TheQ on Aug 1, 2011 8:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It is way to early for me to tell either way

But that was definitely my impression of the guy after the reports I read. Truly, I so hope he nails down that spot for the next 10 years!

by TheQ on Aug 1, 2011 9:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

No shit

Just cause the rook is ripped and looked good during a “practice,” without pads on, doesn’t mean he already has staked a claim on “The Predator’s” territory. Let’s wait to we see him light up some AFC West opposing player before he becomes our answer. “We’re talking about practice, not a game, but practice.” – The Answer

Chiefs are on the up and up

by Chiefs1 on Aug 1, 2011 8:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

ha!

Fair enough! But I am still waiting on the Predator to play up to his draft status. Can’t fault a guy for pulling for the Rook!

by TheQ on Aug 1, 2011 9:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Draft status?

There’s no such thing.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Aug 1, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now playing up to your paycheck

That’s something else entirely

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Aug 1, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

very good point

Don’t ya just love training camp! I over react to everything I hear and read. Honestly, I don’ t care who plays LDE, as long as they have 12 sacks and 70 tackles. I don’t think I am asking for too much!

by TheQ on Aug 1, 2011 9:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

3-4 DEs don't get sacks unless they're Richard Seymour or Reggie White

But just leave that up to Tamba

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Aug 1, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Houston

If he shows up to camp. I think Studebaker will have some good sack numbers as well.

by TheQ on Aug 1, 2011 9:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well crap, all he has to be is average at pass rushing

And he’ll be a massive upgrade over Vrabel.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 1, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 for low standards

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

... or just play better than someone

that is playing with 2 blown out knees.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Aug 1, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Touche

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 1, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh I forgot the... just saying.

That still fixes everything right?

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Aug 1, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course!

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 2, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Linemen and LB were in pads

While they did the 4 on 1. Baily showed he is a stud, taking on 4 and winning. If he was in a upright, LB position, this is DAMNED impressive!!!!!!

by Mark in Ga. on Aug 1, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty Interesting

Because I heard a report earlier that said TJ was getting after it. I suppose you ask 10 different people and you get 10 different perspectives. Now I have an excuse for the wife that I have to get over and check the camp out for my own eyes…. he he

by chiefsnation64436 on Aug 1, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

All perspective. I wish I could see a practice, but it is about a 4 hour drive for me. Not easy to just stop by. So for everyone who has been posting these reports, thank you!

by TheQ on Aug 1, 2011 9:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Keep these coming

Love reading about how the players are doing out there, and the interaction with all the coaches. Great stuff, thanks again

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Aug 1, 2011 8:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Much respect to those who write these up and dont get paid for it....

well done!

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Aug 1, 2011 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

First I've heard of this specificity:

fyifootballplay
#KC #Chiefs TE Tony Moeaki has missed the first several days of training camp with a right (knee) injury. #NFL

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Yea, Haley addressed it

He tweaked it the end of last year but since he hasn’t been around team doctors they were being cautious. He said it’s nothing to worry about

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

That reminds me.

I still need to watch today’s presser.

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

excellent

I love all the detail – it is very interesting. Thanks!

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

great note, please keep it up.... :-P

can wait to see, how the run game and the passing game come out with Muir and Todd calling plays, or to see who calls the plays….???

by Alex Humphries on Aug 1, 2011 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks.

Wish we had video or something to see more specifically how guys are Performing on drills

"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "

by chief Stevie_k on Aug 1, 2011 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Mcdaniels is in STL so don't forget STL

"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "

by chief Stevie_k on Aug 1, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

hell

they’ll probably cheat in our preseason game

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know. Just hungry for chiefs football.

This stuff is just a teaser!

"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "

by chief Stevie_k on Aug 1, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

oui

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you go to youtube

and type in chiefs training camp 2011 you get a few videos of drills

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "

by chief Stevie_k on Aug 1, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question:

What specifically is the goal of the players running around and over the foam blocks in the video clips above? Are they working on balance, coordination, or is it something as simple as conditioning? I’ve always assumed but never really knew for sure.

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Aug 1, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice... rec'd

Football Then Hockey 7 days a week...

by Akr_Baby on Aug 1, 2011 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I know that practices are without pads...

but it seems that practices are so much better than last year… like there is some sort of continuity that is going on or something.

Great writeup…

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Aug 1, 2011 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I forget what player said it

but he said it was like they never missed a beat, like they picked right up where they left off. This Haley guy runs a tight ship

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can stand to see some poor bastard with 2 rec's.

So here ya go. Click.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh. I never noticed.

Thanks, K-guy.

BTW, did you see that Richardson signed his tender?

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I did. He has to sign it to come to camp....so that we can begin

the process of realeasing him.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 2, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Just another thanks to this, and the others who have done traing camp reports.

by Arrowheadone on Aug 1, 2011 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

whitemamba03

Reported on Twitter that Ty Attend is at Arrowhead and will be signed. Whoever the hell that is (whitemamba03).

Chiefs are on the up and up

by Chiefs1 on Aug 1, 2011 9:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Attend equals Warren

Chiefs are on the up and up

by Chiefs1 on Aug 1, 2011 9:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tarkus has become the AP ballbreaker

since the lockout lifted, pay no attention to that guy

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

My BB does the same thing; it's a bitch.

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Aug 1, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your baby?

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Aug 1, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

BB = Blackberry

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Aug 1, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You heard of the generation gap?

I definitely am suffering from the texting gap. I still have to think about it when I see “smh” or “twss”.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

(Uh, that’s “laughing my ass off”) :-)

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Aug 1, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh. Yeah. I know that one.

I don’t like how things are evolving, but I have to face up to the fact that the language will ALWAYS evolve towards something more efficient, however tasteless it appears to me.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

imho, right? ;)

Predictions:
KC will be a Superbowl favorite in 2012

by jmcgoblue on Aug 2, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

door

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 2, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

and to me, the funniest and best sign was on the baldwin big gain

where haley told baldwin he wouldnt have fell forward had he been in shape(or whatnot)

got to love todd haley.

then having him out there showing JC and Dex how to pass block etc, all it had me thinking of was todd blowing out his knee last year(note to todd haley, stop demonstrating)

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Aug 1, 2011 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Best quote yet:

After Bowe dropped a couple passes, (paraphrasing) “It’s a good thing we’re a running team, because we can’t catch the ball.” Someone said that was classic Parcells, and I couldn’t agree more.

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

A little sarcasm goes a long way.

I’m one who has to be careful about letting the snappy 1-liner do more harm than good.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

But growing up in PA, where Haley spent a lot of time growing up in Steeler land,

talking shit is how real people talk to each other. It was my biggest adjustment moving West. Nobody knew the unwritten rules for good-natured insults.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh. The other extreme is a small mtn community, where NObody dares say ANYthing bad about ANYbody.

It always comes right back at you, if you break that rule.

But I finally figured it was an East-West thing, when I started playing blues with a guy here in Greeley who grew up in Ohio and spent his summers a few miles away from where I grew up in PA. We IMMEDIATELY said the worst things to each other and enjoyed the hell out of it. Hard to explain those unwritten rules, but somebody tries to jump in and it’s like “Uh. You’ve gone way too far, dude. What HE said was FUNNY, but what you said was just mean.”

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

See that's how me and my buddies are and I'm from Cali

But there seems to be a growing segment of people who are two-faced and truly just don’t like you, yet will hang out with you anyway

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Aug 1, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can understand that, in your case.

Part of it was growing up with a dad from KC, who encouraged speaking your mind. Most folks I know grew up learning how to get along with others. Heh. Took me a long time to learn the difference between maintaining my integrity without just blurting the first thing that came to mind. Heh.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

But yeah. Seems like most folks grew up with that extra filter on their tongue.

That little twist of “What do I hope to gain by saying that?” in their thinking.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah speaking your mind

and sarcasm issues.

two of my biggest problems in asia :P

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

rearry?

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha did you see my "big brogger" line from yesterday

its funny cuz its true.

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes, saw it

except it was TODAY – seriously get with it already

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not only with it

i’m ahead. its 11:45am on tuesday :)

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude

Will you help me bet on the Superbowl this year?

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think you need marty's sports almanac for that

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

My father told me that people outside of here are a little sensitive about things like that.

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wherever "here" is...

Part of maturity is picking your spots for that sarcasm. Some folks get a kick out of it. I think having a thick skin is a job requirement, working for Haley.

I’m not sure what the perfect mix is. Dungy definitely did it differently. I know that in my 20s, I needed a swift kick in the ass, from time to time, and appreciated being called out, because the only way I was going to become the man I wanted to be was to have somebody brutally point out my blind spots. As a scrapper, my feelings were only hurt when people did NOT tell me things, just to spare my feelings. Now, as a teacher, I try to keep things light, but shy away from wisecracks at anybody’s expense. My grade scheme, objectively applied, is PLENTY of criticism.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watching his college highlights

that was a concern I had about Baldwin. I know he didn’t have good QBs throwing to him, but it looked like he had a mental association between “diving catch” and “highlight clip”. Someone needs to tell him catching the ball and running for a TD gets you on SportsCenter in the pros.

by Chiefs4Life on Aug 1, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

great write up

and kendrick lewis should be intercepting passes all year, I have a number of “6” in my head, he would have had more last year without penalties across the field

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Aug 1, 2011 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

He looked like he put on some muscle

Hopefully he stays healthy, I think he can be pretty good

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree. I have no worries about kendrick lewis as our starting free safety.

in fact, I have nothing but confidence in the guy.

hes also quite friendly, which goes a long way in rooting for him

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Aug 1, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad to here good things bout Greenwood

Can’t wait to see him crush some people like he did on that return against the Champ’s in our preseason win against them

by CanuckCHIEF'SFan on Aug 1, 2011 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

While the special teams group worked on punting, Cory Greenwood was very vocal and was shouting things out according to how the defense lined up.

Next ST leader ala McGraw?

by bh13 on Aug 1, 2011 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm ok with that

For now. He’s got plenty to teach the younger guys, be it secondary or ST guys. Just because he got re-signed doesn’t necessarily mean he makes the final roster, though he probably will barring someone really stepping it up.

by bh13 on Aug 1, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very cool -

This is what I love about AP;
You can’t find this anywhere else!

Oh, and good job paraphrasing Haley..

Profile Image courtesy of 'christoffer'..

by chiefsfan62 on Aug 1, 2011 9:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

it IS a family site

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fanshot

CBS Rapid Reports: Training Camp, 8/1

SS Eric Berry is tired of practicing in his shorts. He wants to put on the pads and play football. “I’ve never done this before without any hitting,” Berry said. “Even when we were practicing for neighborhood ball, we had hitting in practice. It ain’t football until we can hit somebody.” Chiefs RapidReports

New QB coach Jim Zorn wants improved efficiency and constitency from starting QB Matt Cassel. Both have not been visible in four practices through Monday afternoon. Cassel has been off the mark, missing throws high and low. A slow camp start for the offensive leader. Chiefs RapidReports

In a pass rush drill Monday afternoon, rookie NT Jerrell Powe showed good explosion and beat the center through the ‘A’ gap on three of four snaps. Impressive for a guy hauling around 330 pounds. Chiefs RapidReports

More from BobGretz.com

Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011

by ArrowSpread on Aug 1, 2011 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

love these too thanks ArrowSpread

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

thx.

I liked some of the drills ZBS was talking about. It’s the sort of thing that I want Cassel to improve on. Forget about perfect technique when you have time. Don’t be thinking about your friggin’ feet. What you should be working on is how to spite the defense when they force you to move around. It ought to be “God help you if you don’t manage to bring my ass to the turf.”

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roethlisberger

I think Ben’s best attribute is extending plays even with guys hanging on him and still being able to deliver a throw. Cassel is surprisingly close to him in size. I wish Cassel would learn that ability because I do believe the guy is tough.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember whenever the pass rush failed to bring Stan Humphries down, he always made us pay.

With Cassel, sometimes it just seems like he’s glad he didn’t get sacked, and fergettabout making a completion down the field with the seconds he bought.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ben's got about 50 lbs on him I think

It is what it is and we are who we are.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
Not all those who wander are lost. /////// I dont mind stealing bread.

by nateforchiefs on Aug 2, 2011 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

supposedly

Cassel 6-4 230
Roeth 6-5 241

that’s why I said “surprisingly”. Of course, these stats can always be gamed so I don’t know for sure. But, it just seems like everyone’s natural belief is that he’s a lot huger than other guys.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 2, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Height wise they are similar sure.

But Ben has to outweigh Cassel by at least 40 LBS

It is what it is and we are who we are.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
Not all those who wander are lost. /////// I dont mind stealing bread.

by nateforchiefs on Aug 2, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Love hearing this about Powe.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm praying that he does everything I think he can in our system

Remember his 2009 year, when he played a 2-gap NT? If he’d declared after that year he’d been a first or second round pick.

I feel like he got screwed by being asked to do something he couldn’t (be a gap shooter). And now peoples’ expectations are lower for him because of where he was drafted.

I’d be willing to bet if he’d stayed in the same system in 2010 he’d have been a first or second rounder.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 1, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

does any team in the league have more Ole Miss guys than us?

I don’t think so. Kinda cool – for some unknown reason.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

LSU and Ole Miss

I guess Iowa is coming on now…

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'd've gone higher than the 6th.

But I agree. Teams seem to want more flash from their draftees.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

And awesome shit, zbs

Wreckx-n-effect

Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011

by ArrowSpread on Aug 1, 2011 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

completely OFF TOPIC

i follow Ed Wang of the Bills on China’s twitter clone and had tossed a bit of shit his way about week 1. he came back with a “haha” (which is my first “celebrity” response). so i asked him to say hi to Thiggy for us and sent him THE PIC :) Curious to see his response.

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

back on topic

can’t thank you enough for putting these practice observations together!

this weekend will be awesome once we get our fa boys back on the field. (of course i’ll be traveling so will miss the majority of it…)

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

so braylon edwards just killed his stock in FA

what a dipshit

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

LMAO!
"Yo…Lost my phone last night someone sent tweets. Deleted them and changed my password. Sorry for the mishap hopefully never happens again!"

Funny how all these athletes are always losing their phone or getting their accounts hacked. And it’s never anything clever that someone posts, but rather just something stupid.

He’s officially an idiot.

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

EXACTLY

weakest, lamest, saddest lie i’ve ever seen

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

People who hate on Twitter don't understand.

It actually helps thin the herd. We’d never know what a moron some of these guys are without Twitter. It’s probably a better test than the Wonderlick.

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

+sexting

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's been on my shit list since the Denver training camp when

he just stood there and refused to catch balls thrown his way…or some sort of baloney like that. Being on the field but refusing to play…can’t remember exactly, except for that is was a disgusting display of disrespect for the team and the coaches.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

AND HE’S GOING TO BEAT YOU UP FOR REPEATING WHAT OTHERS ALREADY SAID ABOVE.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right. So I should just fix this whole mess.

Dear Braylon Edwards:

Please accept my sincere apology. You are not the overpaid, low character, selfish prick, that I was referring to.

Sincerely,

TheK-Man

(That should fix it)

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 2, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

SPOOON!!!!
Per the report, Edwards’ friends got into an argument with the employees. The dispute made its way into the kitchen, and one employee was "sliced with a knife." The wound required 14 stitches to close. Another employee allegedly was attacked with a fork. (Alas, the Placesetting Trifecta was not completed, possibly because Braylon dropped the spoon.)

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Aug 1, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

How so?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 1, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

well i guess not completely killed it

and he’s not directly involved. but shit like this will lower his stock for sure.

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Yeah, I do it in Thunderbird (email/newsgroup client) from time to time.

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I just learned something awesome!

somebody needs to make a new post with some of these tricks in it.

My scrolling issues love the Z trick I just learned.

Feel like a noob for not even finding that on accident.

What a neat trick.

meh...
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 1, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or read above the comments.
Press C to tab to new comments, Shift-C to tab backwards, X to mark as read, and Shift-A to mark all read.
The best: Z will simultaneously mark and tab forward, and R will reply to the comment that has focus.

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're welcome.

It’s actually very easy to overlook that.

by Tarkus on Aug 1, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is a life saver on bigger posts

I new about Shift A.

Like legs on a beautiful woman.

This knowledge should be spread.

meh...
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 1, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep,

Z is the zhit.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can, and don't want to do it again.

Joel and Chris should add in something to the top of the page like, “While commenting, press ‘Z’, it is your friend.”

“While not as amazing as the ‘Z-Man’ at ‘Oklahoma Joes’, here at Arrowhead Pride is will make your life just as joyful in the long run. Don’t believe us, just be like Chief-blinders-on and post for years without using it, if you want to put that theory to the test.”

meh...
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 1, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

CTRL-ALT-K-DEL

will make AP delete all Chief-blinders-on posts and comments. I find it very useful!

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

SHIT

maybe that was the K-Man delete!

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Bengals reached agreement with former 49ers LB Manny Lawson on a one-year $3 mi

meh...
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 2, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just wish "Z" worked on NFLN.

"What we need is......more cowbell." - C. Walken

by ChiefMedic on Aug 1, 2011 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

HA

KILLA BEES SWARM!
bowe, breaston, baldwin, berry, brandon (x2),

by chiefsinchina on Aug 1, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for another great practice report

I can’t make these weekday practices due to work so I really appreciate being able to read this. Honestly without AP and our community this information would probably never get outside the practice field. Thanks!

by Tyran on Aug 1, 2011 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

This is a helluva write up

nice work. rec’d

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Aug 1, 2011 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

WTF Carolina?

So, these guys signed Derek Anderson? Didn’t they draft 3 QBs last year and another one this year WITH THE NO.1 PICK????????

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you for writing this article. Rec

I really liked hearing this:

After warmups, Jim Zorn worked with the quarterbacks on a drill that seemed to be based on avoiding a would-be-sack. The QB’s repeatedly went through this drill where they would take the snap, drop back a few steps, and then Zorn would say “now” and they would go through a motion with their arm to avoid the imaginary pressure and then step to the side and throw. In the next drill, they practiced scrambling and throwing after the scramble. Hopefully the QB’s will keep an even cooler head in the pocket thanks to Zorn being around. This is pure speculation, but I bet Tyler Palko appreciates having a left-handed quarterback coach.

It is nice for QB’s to learn default maneuvers for avoiding pressure. It helps decrease hesitation. Drills like this and others are reasons that I love the Jim Zorn hire. Matt Cassel is too proper is his footwork sometimes and seems to get rattles when he has to go on the move.

I really hope Jim Zorn can correct him with those things, which, I think are a product of him over studying footwork all of those years on the pine. The West Coach approach should really help Cassel in some of his weaker areas.

I really liked this report, great stuff. Keep it coming please/

meh...
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 1, 2011 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah.

Sometimes it seems like they’ve worked on running and worked on passing, but that Cassel hadn’t integrated the two, although on a planned rollout, he’s pretty good at hitting a receiver who’s mirroring him 5 or 10 yards down the field.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 1, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly Mills

If he can learn what to do in “Panic Mode” it will make him a better player.

I hope Jim Zorn can add some great tools to his QB repertoire. Matt Cassel is very skilled off the field, now he just needs to learn how to be an NFL QB on the field, and apply his know-how in real life Sunday situations.

meh...
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Aug 1, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes, stay in pocket, slide sideways, pass

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Aug 1, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it seems mostly mental.

Sort of a “You’ll have to do better than THAT to stop me!”

Not sure how much is a product of the team around him, how much is from just trying not to screw it up, on a team without great comeback power, how much is just Cassel’s limitations.

I remember watching both Cassel and Thigpen in 2008 and noticing that Cassel was far more capable/willing to look down the field and complete a pass after he’d broken contain and was approaching the line of scrimmage. I was actually happy about it, because those years with Trent Green, when LBs would hang back in coverage and DARE him to run were over. I saw Cassel as more capable than any KC QB since Montana at knowing the difference between stealing yards with his feet and hitting somebody with a pass.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 2, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I remember when Zorn was in Washington

NFLN was in their camp (or just doing a piece on Zorn, I don’t remember) and he was working with Campbell, doing a drill where every time he dropped back, Zorn and a couple players would throw some light pads at him to get him used to having things going on around him (at least I think that’s what it was).

by bh13 on Aug 2, 2011 5:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

And I think that definitely needs to be a part of Cassel's training.

I’m just not sure his accuracy is going to be good enough, with or without pressure.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Aug 2, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

TJax

looked pretty good in my opinion today. He had some nice swim moves and broke though a couple of times. Urban was also impressive. He caught quite a few balls. Between having him back, and the additions of Breaston and Baldwin, there shouldn’t be a shortage of open wide receivers this year.

by EricBerryYoYouScary on Aug 1, 2011 11:24 PM CDT reply actions  

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