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It's Down to Studebaker and Houston......

I saw a report that came in saying that there is a "very good chance" Mike Vrabel will join the Ohio state coaching staff on Arrowheadpride.com. The official announcement could come as soon as Monday. Sooooo.... Obviously if he is on the coaching staff for the Buckeyes he will not be a linebacker for the Kansas City Chiefs. I think that it is bittersweet.... The Chiefs will be missing a key part of leadership in the locker room. But, the Chiefs can now give the younger players a chance to prove themselves. It is down to most likely, Andy Studebaker, or Justin Houston. I see one of these guys starting next year. There is always a chance someone like Cameron Sheffield could step up. Or they could possibly move Demorrio Williams to the outside.

 

 

 

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I just want to know what you as a Chiefs fan thinks about this whole situation.....

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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If not Vrabel it HAS to be Studebaker

unless a vet like Matt Roth is brought in. Studebaker has the most knowledge of our system, where he plays a position that takes tons of mental prowess to be good at.

Pure athletes can look like beasts at ROLB but look like idiots playing LOLB.

BOOM!

by 808NaNz808 on Jul 8, 2011 1:05 AM CDT reply actions  

and Tamba Hali is a beast

Studie I’m guessing … Houston doesn’t know the position well enough … yet

no way on Williams … Shef maybe, dunno

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jul 8, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

nice! (huge smile) bet that sounds killergood thru the BOSE
Playing a harp-heavy playlist (my 1st on on this Ipod) as we speak

Prof, I agree talent/athleticism is big, but it would be all too easy for a rookie to take the bait and go inside while the TE or RB slips past him for a 7 yd easy in the flat … bingo, toasted rookie

now, if it’s just a matter of put a stud guy out there to bullrush no matter what and hope for the jailbreak … Houston might be the guy

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jul 8, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sayin' the upgrade in pressure makes the coverage job easier.

I think making the QB a whole lot more uncomfortable and uncertain is a whole lot bigger issue. I’d trade some experience for a stronger base threat.

THE most glaring weakness in last year’s D was failure to get pressure from more than the one OLB. I’m not saying send both of ’em all day long (but CERTAINLY threaten just that).

I think folks underestimate how the double threat constricts the options for offense, thereby making the need for a lot of read-and-react nonsense unnecessary for that SOLB. And the quicker BOTH OLBs are to strike home, the easier those same OLBs have it in coverage. More a flash-of-color in the anticipated soft spot; more a drop into the anticipated soft spot that does the job, because protections are disrupted by your threats and so you’re getting BETTER pressure from some of the same guys you were shaking your head over, or because that TE you’re so worried about is back in max protect, instead of creating problems for you in the pattern.

So I’m not as worried about the things you (and OTHER smart people I respect) are worried about. The biggest problem for this KC D wasn’t the coverage, but how long they had to cover, and the number of eligible receivers that were getting off the line unbullied. I’d much rather see the SOLB just make a point of going through TEs and RBs. Even if you screen or throw to the flat over that guy, if he’s getting to the QB FAST, the coverage hasn’t expanded as far, and your guys can swarm to the ball, or even break up that pass in the flat, based on strong certainty that the pass is coming out SOON.

If all the d-line does is what they did in 2010, one more guy who’s a big-time edge threat might be all they need to play things MUCH more aggressively, keeping it simple, at first, and maybe permanently.

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by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the way protection tends to slant toward hali

a good, athletic young pass rusher like houston would have a real chance to put up hali-like numbers from the other side. Even as a rookie.

by graviton on Jul 8, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

if teams keep favoring hali's side all year

he could very well put up numbers like hali last year.

If not, then it could just mean hali does that much better.

by graviton on Jul 8, 2011 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

You won't get both OLBs getting 10+ sacks

With Hali almost always rushing Houston will not always be coming, have to pick the spots to bring them both in the base formation

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 8, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

the offense doesn't know the defense's play ahead of time

any play where one of those two is coming, he will be aided by the fact that the offense has to be ready for the other one, or both of them.

by graviton on Jul 8, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston needs work as a pass rusher

He will not come in and in limited chances put up 10+ sacks, tone the homerism down. I know how a defense works, but this aint madden.

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 8, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he can put of 5 sacks and 10 more pressures

Houston is a stud.

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by nmchief on Jul 8, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

and can I request

a few picks?

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by nmchief on Jul 8, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ironically, when you have that dual pressure,

things are disrupted enough that those OLBs DO get some garbage picks, because they drop into the exact area the QB is looking to take advantage of them with the quick pass. But you do need to get inside the heads of the opposing offense. As the D matures, they ought to be able to zone-blitz with the best of ‘em. I really think they’re building the D in that direction.

Imagine how much better Hali will be in coverage, with maybe Bailey in Dorsey’s spot, and Houston blitzing from the strong side. Hali seemed to have a pretty good sense of the spacings, but it took Vrabel or whoever from the other side, and Dorsey, in 5-tech, too long to strike home, giving the HB plenty of time to uncover behind Hali. But if the ball has to come out FAST, Hali’s a big thorn in the side for any passes to his flat.

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by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has RC ever really been known to zone blitz though?

The few times Hali did drop he didn’t look completely lost which is a great sign if we do drop him back a little more often now

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 9, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

He hasn't gotten as exotic as Lebeau,

who’ll drop his NOSE TACKLE into the short middle.

But yes, strictly speaking, he’s done a fair amount of zone blitzing, imo.

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by hmills110 on Jul 10, 2011 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never really heard of RC zone blitzing(guess it's time for me to hit google up)

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 10, 2011 5:18 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm looking for a lot more versatility this comming year. I see Houston at 2 maybe 3 spots.

See Houston at both OLB spots and maybe some DE. Bailey may be groomed at Hali’s spot as well as DE and DT on Nickel and Rush packages. Stdie will be a solid SOLB but don’t see the versatility offered by Houston who will play some and hopefully make some thing happen when he does.

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by CatChief on Jul 10, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston will be OLB in base DE/OLB in sub packages

Bailey DE in base DT/DE in sub packages
Stude will be OLB/STer

All IMO anyways.(I do not see Bailey as a LB at all)

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 10, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's pretty much what I'm trying to say, graviton.

any play where one of those two is coming, he will be aided by the fact that the offense has to be ready for the other one, or both of them.

I’ve seen Studie and Vrabel both grind to a halt against single blocking, and the failure of that matchup really seemed to limit what the KC D was capable of doing. Vrabel was good at playing off the block to mess with anyone trying to run AT him, but penetration was nil, let alone taking a more-or-less direct angle to the QB. KC really hasn’t had decent strong side pressure since the Neil Smith days, and Dorsey hasn’t been all that frightening on those plays where Hali drops into zone. Folks diss Hali for his poor coverage, but I see QBs getting way too much time and maneuvering room any time Hali isn’t part of the pass rush. This made the KC D look a lot like a 4-3, and the 4-man rush was always one-sided, namely Hali’s side.

I think a healthy T-Jax will make a big difference, there, too. I think their 3-man rush is a lot more effective with him than it is with Shaun Smith. But, again, a big key to getting pressure out of 3 guys is the offense getting itself out of position to counter edge threats, and thinking those 3 down linemen are just eating blocks, when all of a sudden, they’re looking to attack cracks that have started opening up, due to those edge threats. But again, it’s all about getting the offense to increase THEIR tempo, and using that to catch them with a quick pass dialed-up, when you inexplicably drop 8 into coverage.

The most glaring example of this is from watching Donovan McNabb, after being hit and harrassed, forcing the ball into coverage, because the alarm clock in his head is SCREAMING at him. even though he was MORE than capable of extending the play against the 3-man rush, and either scrambling or waiting for the coverage to expand to the point where somebody comes open. More recently, I’ve seen Cassel make this kind of mistake, because the 4- and 5-man rush was giving him such a bad time. It’s all about that courage, serenity and wisdom thing.

Or as Bill Walsh might have said, you keep workin’ the body until the opponent brings his hands down, and then he’s set up for the overhand right.

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by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's all about the Synergy, baby.

One guy making the others around him more effective.

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by CatChief on Jul 10, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see what you're saying, Prof

and in theory it sounds good …

… in actual practice, not as sure as you are

but hey, we’ll keep a good thought :-)

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by upamtn on Jul 8, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Particularly because of the lockout...

Studebaker will likely be the starter to begin the season IF Vrabel really does head off to a coaching job. There’s just not enough time for anybody else to fill in. However, we will see some rotation there towards the 2nd quarter of the season as Houston and possibly Sheffield get some work in to see who is our best option before the grueling run down the stretch starts.

Let’s hope if this is true it doesn’t start a trend because I think we really need Wiegmann back for this year to start right away and mentor Hudson along as the future center. Vrabel already passed on his legacy to our players who can pass it on again, we need Wiegmann to do the same. (Waters as well for Asomoah but I am assuming Waters is playing this season)

by DocCountry on Jul 8, 2011 1:37 AM CDT reply actions  

its time for studebaker to shine. what I do wonder though, is how it will effect special teams

I know we used guys like berry on double duty, and studebaker is probably one of our best special teams players, if hes starting I wonder if that plays into how much hes on the field on kicks because houston isnt exactly built to play special teams in the nfl.

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Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 8, 2011 1:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I think they'll be fine on ST, with or without Studie.

I wouldn’t be upset seeing less Studebaker on ST. KC missed some big return opportunities because he missed his block.

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by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

really though? he missed a block, but go back and look at ALL the special teams play from this year

studebaker is the guy who is making a serious difference

and I have to ask where your confidence comes from in regards to our ST units….they were terrible last season, and this was a year without too many injuries(altho some were to core ST players like langford, urban etc)…..take studebaker off ST, and which LB can block as well etc…

seriously, watch any chiefs defensive plays too where studebaker was on the field on a return….HE is the guy who never gives up on a play and just keeps going, hes the one out there lead blocking for a fumble return or an INT

its amazing to me how quickly many have forgotten this….call it “small” think special teams is an easy fix….but they arent

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Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 10, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

and let me add, Gary freaking stills missed a MAJOR block or two on dante hall returns....one that would have set the record

he was still our best special teams player

id seriously be shocked if haley doesnt consider studebaker to be one of if not our best, special teams linebacker

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by SDChief on Jul 10, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That'd be by far the best case scenario for us

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by MNchiefsfan on Jul 8, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

In the scenario where he legitimately beats Studie out for the job, yes.

But if, as a rookie, he’s not ready to start in week 1, then he’s not ready to start in week 1 and it’s as simple as that. We could do a lot worse than to start Studebaker at first and start to slowly work Houston into the lineup on pass rushing downs and whatnot until he’s ready to take over.

All that’s assuming, of course, that Studebaker doesn’t suddenly have a breakout season where he emerges as a force at OLB (which would actually be pretty awesome, even if something of a long shot).

by MtHammer on Jul 9, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Walters just seeing the field would be a breakout season

/joke

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 9, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind seeing him move on to be honest

Need to start getting some of the lower roster spots/PS opened up for guys to groom instead of guys to just have around.

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 9, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I'm not sure Walters has a fighting chance to make it

With Hali/Houston/Stude/Miller/Sheff, I don’t see any room for Walters. I’d love to get a young RB or 2 on the PS/bottom of the roster though

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 9, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll see how it plays out, but agree we need a young back. As

for me, I am not a big fan of Studie’s except as a special teamer and back-up. Walters seems to make plays when he gets chances in the preseason. Studie had 1 game where he got a couple of sacks but since nada when he is in the game. He could be the odd man out.

by dubld on Jul 9, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stude will stick just cause of special teams

What plays has Walters made even in the preseason? I can’t think of one.

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 10, 2011 5:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

DL/LB - the lines are blurred, here.

Gilberry at 268, Walters at 269. Hali 275… Bailey 288 may just be him trying to get big for the draft, but I think he made his name at less than that. Miller and Studie @ 250.

Anyhoo, I agree, there’s likely to be some bloodletting, and Gales, Greenwood, and Walters are all guys who’ve been around, but didn’t do much in regulation. But I think they need to carry a lot of ‘tweeners, so it’s good to see them competing in large number, especially since the highest KC picked any of ’em was the 3rd round (except for Hali).

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by hmills110 on Jul 10, 2011 3:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Walters is also like 6'5'' I remember thinking if he didn't work at OLB they may ask him to gain weight

And possibly be in the Dline rotation/Gilberry type roles, but still nothing

I don’t think Tamba is playing anywhere close to that 275. 265/260lbs

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 10, 2011 5:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought Hali was around 255 this last year

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Jul 10, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hali lists at 275.

Walters was right around 270.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

The official weights are always off like all the NT's supposedly at 320ish

Or Ngata at 320, James Harrison at 240, etc

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 5:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ya know. I always just believe the KC mothership as reporting a more recent weight.

And I generally just believe what I read, unless I see Ngata at 320.

Odd. There’ve been numerous times in the last months when I wanted to say something about PIT’s big LBs, and stopped myself, because everywhere I looked, Harrison was listed at about 240. Strange the way the (my) mind works.

But I rather think that 270 is about where Walters’ playing weight was. And Greenwood looked at least his listed 278. Saw him on the field a couple times, but fate has pitched him a statistical shutout, according to NFL.com

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 6:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pitt fans say Harrison is playing around 260lbs and we all know that

Hampton/Wilkfork are over the 320ish pounds they are listed at, Ngata sounds like he is down to about that 320 now after losing 20-30lbs this off season

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

All sounds right.

I think maybe Ngata’s trying to get a few extra years out of his knees.

Thanks for being patient with me on this. A lot of things my heart was telling me were shoved aside by too-easy belief in available weight data.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe with Cody getting more playing time this year Ngata

is hoping to improve his explosion and not always have to play a NT role no matter where he is lined up at, kind of sucks that the player weights are almost always wrong

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is partially it however in the Ravens scheme

He is usually the DE on the strong side no matter which side the TE/extra blocker lines up forcing the other team to run AT him, the way it was described to me from a Ravens fan was that Ngata is the NT but doesn’t line up in the usual NT role(up on the center)

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the data are to be believed (heh),

KC used their most massive DL last year to play on the strong side.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smith mainly stuck to LDE in the base but by no means

was the NT, there were quite a few runs towards Tamba since he does get up fiend too quick sometimes

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Part of it, too, is the line not doing its share of pushing things back on those plays.

Part of the line not getting as far upfield could be the fact that Dorsey is trying to mop up after the disruption by Hali, so he’s coming upfield more cautiously and more under control.

I hope Bailey can push both DEs to round out their game, more. With Jackson back healthy, I think Smith’s best bet for playing time is going to be at the nose.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bailey is really intriguing

Gosh come on camp/pre season!!!

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the scenario where he legitimately beats Studie out for the job, yes.

That’s what I mean. Obviously, I don’t want Houston handed anything. And under Haley I don’t see that happening. But if he beats out Stude it tells us that we’ve already upgraded before the season even starts at SOLB

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by MNchiefsfan on Jul 10, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

really? Im shocked at the lack of support for andy

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Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 10, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why, he hasn't shown much in 2 years has he. So what, he got some press for 2 sacks one game

and is a good Special Teamer but other than that he hasn’t shown he is a starting caliber player at all. I think Andy should worry about making this team.

by dubld on Jul 10, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

He gets the press for the 2 int's in the Pitt game more than anything

Andy will make the team, he is great on special teams and already has a friendly contract.

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 10, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the main thing on those picks was just holding on to the ball.

Decent return on one of ’em, I think. But they stuck him deep and all he had to do was stand there in the middle of the field and catch the duck.

Studie might have a problem cracking the starting lineup, and only get snaps in certain situations against certain teams. But I really think if they knew what they were doing with all their ’tweeners, especially Houston, that getting on the field at OLB might be tough. But as a “Do anything Haley asks” ILB, he could see some action.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Vrabel filled in at OLB and ILB.

I really do see a defense with Hali and Houston on it having a place for the likes of Studie @ ILB. He may be better suited to it, anyway. Again, with a grain of salt for misinformation, as BAMF pointed out, Belcher’s listed at 228. Studie would be a 250-pounder at that ILB spot. Everything I said about Vrabel making the right first couple steps and anticipating plays from that SILB, with those first couple steps free of blockers – all that stuff would apply to Studebaker, who could quickly play that all-around SILB, and pack a real punch with a running start, which he wasn’t getting at OLB.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stude is better when dropping back than Belcher, and Stude has been willing to throw himself

Into a blocker/pile seems like a great fit at ILB. Hopefully with 2 ILBs that could both drop back into coverage Houston’s lack of coverage experience could be overlooked as he is blitzed often

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haley says Studie would go through a brick wall, if that's what was asked of him.

Guys like that are good to have on your team. Much as I say the 2 INTs weren’t that tough for him, the fact was that he capitalized immediately on the offense’s blunder. I’d say that the SILB who ends up starting will be the one who diagnoses the play-fake better.

And I know this is out from left field, but, same as the game can slow down for a QB, so can it do the same for a LB, so you never know when a hard working underdog like Cory Mays will suddenly bust out. His main flaw, to ME, has been taking one extra beat to know what he should do. I think he has sufficient quickness and toughness to fulfill the job description, if he makes best use of his first step on every play. I’m not saying it WILL happen, but…

Sheffield as run-stuffer, behind Houston as a pure edge rusher. Sheffield as run stuffer on the WEAK side when they swap Bailey for Dorsey, and they want Bailey to pin his ears back. Maybe a good changeup if the D is gettin’ eaten-up by the draw play. Same thing on the strong side, if they sneak Bailey into Jackson’s spot and just ask him to attack.

Miller’s kind of a wild card. He might develop into a good all-around strongside ‘backer, like Vrabel, well-suited for the next version of the KC D. I think Miller has better instincts/football IQ than Sheffield. If Miller plays with the kind of awareness that last year’s 5th-rounder, Kendrick Lewis, did, he just might steal that SILB job away from somebody.

K-Man says that Sheffield will struggle to overcome the psychological part of the neck injury. While I’m not buying the psych job, I do still think that Sheffield has to be considered a long-shot. He scouted as being a hostage to the play fake. We didn’t see him play very many consecutive snaps, so maybe he just got lucky that he didn’t entirely run himself out of position, while any of us were watchin’.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing that I noticed was that the front 3 was more stout against the run with Tjax

I’m hoping that with a healthy Tjax that the front 3 can become stout against the run and then the OLBs could constantly be in penetrate mode. Hali comes but then if the QB goes to hand the ball off(even with a playfake) Houston comes not giving much time to the QB to figure out what to do with it. Hopefully we can see some more TFL’s out of this defense next year.

I’m not really sure where Sheff fits in, I’m sure we will see him on the field in subpackages but in the base formation I don’t see a spot. Hali/DJ have 2 spots locked down then Belcher/Mays/Williams/Houston/Stude/Sheff all battling for the other 2 spots.

If Belcher/Mays/Stude are all going after the SILB spot that still leaves Houston/Sheff/Stude for the SOLB spot(DW as WILB more than likely). The special teams aspect from Stude might limit his time on the defense to situational play

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Granted it's still 3-4 DE type pressure,

but I thought Jackson was more of a factor in the pass rush, as well, doing more to force the QB to move around. A full step quicker and faster than Smith.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should go back and rewatch the plays Tjax was in, when there was pressure

My eyes focused on Hali since it was almost always him bringing it

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's not much on him, except for Game 1 and then a little bit later in the season.

They brought him back slowly off the knee injury, so there’s not much to see in those first few games back. Might be quicker to work back from the Ravens game. It just seems like Jax gets farther up field and puts the question to the QB sooner, and runs the field quite a bit better when the QB flushes from the pocket.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think it will be Stude to start just for the fact Houston really won't have time to grasp the SOLB position

Hopefully with a better NT rotation, not starting 3 rookies(Berry, Lewis, Arenas) will help the secondary, and even if Houston has some mental lapses when he is playing they wont be too bad

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 8, 2011 6:56 AM CDT reply actions  

I think they'll have that 3-man fence, and a better rotation, if all they do is secure their own FAs.

Losing their starting LDE in Game 1 blew a BIG hole in their plans. Having Smith play swing, as intended, is instant upgrade to last year’s unit. Only thing that could slow that down is choosing someone over Edwards/Smith, who has to learn Crennel’s way of playing it.

The secondary was so much better last season, that it’s hard for me to characterize the D as laboring under the burden of starting 3 rookies. But maybe they’ll play more aggressively than 2010, because they trust their guys more. Maybe they’ll be more aggressive just because they believe in their offense a little more…

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by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say the D was laboring under the 3 rookies either

Just the fact that they were rookies and had some mistakes did slow the D down at times(Facing Gates sure didn’t help Berry out at all, then adding 2 or more guys on Gates pretty much dictated our defense). If Berry/Lewis can at least play up to where they ended 2010 then we could get by with Houston at SOLB even if he gets lost a time or 2 in coverage IMO

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 8, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lewis probably had the lead in terms of hand-fighting at the line.

A natural, imo. After he ?rolled that ankle? ?tweaked his knee/ankle? gettin’ run over with his feet planted (I think it was the Seattle game.), I think he was definitely slowed, but I see DEFINITE inverted coverage potential in him. He looked good and he learned fast. It quickly became a mistake to just pick on the rookie, at least to my eye. Same as McCluster, there was a certain before-and-after aspect to his season, where he was surprisingly polished in his first few appearances, but there was a definite dip in his road, there.

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by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

With Berry grasping the game, Lewis still getting used to the job(IMO at least)

Arenas hopefully becoming a little more physical at the line with that compact frame of his, seems like we could go the route of putting the best pass rusher opposite Hali and tweaking the coverages around him

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 8, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You could tell last year when the game came to Berry and he stopped overthinking it

It didn’t seem Lewis ever got that far, if it was from the injury or scheme idk

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H^2-Hali and Houston

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 8, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston is starting no later than week 8.

You can't live that American dream on foot, bro. Aint nobody riding horses no more.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 8, 2011 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

that can be good....studebaker has insane value on special teams and as a backup fresh off the bench bringing the pass rush.

don’t see it as a negative

wow, you said something I dont view as negative

sky….falling

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 10, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston may not start but he should finish

I’d like to see Studie play the OLB spot in standard packages and middle linebacker along side DJ in flex or pass packages. He seems to have the instincts to roam the intermediate zone in pass coverage and Houston could assume the OLB role.
I’d also like to find out what we have in Pierre Walters…I saw him flash Aldon Smith like ability and I think he could be a player if given the opportunity. He’s hung around for a couple of off seasons propably because the coaches believe there is something there to work with if he improves his consistancy.

by kcskip on Jul 8, 2011 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Houston will see some spot time, Sheff will see some nickel situations

Studebaker should start and be an instant upgrade over the aging vrabel. i LOVE what vrabel did in the nfl throughout his career from td catches to playing defense. he will be missed, but studebaker is ready.

Can’t wait, and I have to wonder, Pierre walters and a few others seem to just hang around, your justin cole, micah johnson(I know, ILB) seem to be future fighters for a job

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 10, 2011 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I just haven't seen enough from Studie to start, and I do not understand why you all

think he is the solution as a starter. Maybe he steps up this year, but if not he might not make the cut.

by dubld on Jul 10, 2011 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Yup. I think Houston and Miller will be more convincing at bringing pressure from the outside.

And the confrontations with running backs are more likely to take place on the offense’s side of the line of scrimmage. Studie’s a decent caretaker, but he’s not really a big threat on his own account.

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by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do think Studie is a threat to begin and finish the season as a 2-3 down starter

I think he has what the team is looking for in that spot… he’s athletic, diciplined, and spent the last 2 yrs getting Vrabel’s smarts…

Most importantly, he has a non-stop motor.

I don’t think the Chiefs believe they have to have a flashy, 10-sack-a-year machine at that SOLB spot.

IMHO, they would prefer a guy that they can rely upon to be where he’s supposed to be, and get after the QB when he can. (again, I say, look at the highlight reels for Hali and see who is in the backfield with him… a lot of times, it was Andy)

I think Studie can do that, I think Sheff/Houston can provide a spark off the bench as pass rushers.

We’ll see, though.

by stagdsp on Jul 11, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Faulty memory tells me that Andy got his pressures by taking an inside gap.

He doesn’t have the power or the outside move that some of the new guys have, imo.

I lean more toward the better athlete outside, and the smarter, more all-around player at ILB. I’ve been talking up Stude/Vrabel moving to ILB for a long time. Now, of course, Vrabel’s gone, entirely.

For what I want at SOLB and SILB, moving Studie to ILB makes a lotta sense, while those bigger ’tweeners bring a little more DE flavor to SOLB.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jul 11, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

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