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OT Jammal Brown Says Chiefs Were Interested In Him

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There's some unrest from a segment of the Kansas City Chiefs fan base that feels the Chiefs aren't being very active in free agency by failing to address some needs. Let me say that I feel your pain. This is arguably the most exciting time of year in football and there's just not a lot of action from One Arrowhead Drive relative to other teams, like the Philadelphia Eagles.

I'd also remind you that there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes in free agency that we don't know about. For example, the Chiefs tried to sign LB Scott Shanle from the New Orleans Saints but lost out. They made up for it by reportedly signing LB Brandon Siler from the San Diego Chargers this weekend.

Then there's this nugget -- KC tried to sign OT Jammal Brown, former Saints and current Washington Redskins offensive tackle. This comes Rich Campbell of the Washington Times who just spoke with Brown.

He ultimately decided on a five-year deal with the Redskins but tells Campbell that he chose Washington over the Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears and...Chiefs.

What this tells us is that the Chiefs are willing to search for an upgrade at Barry Richardson's spot at right tackle. We'll see if they actually make a move there but Brown's comments suggest that it's at least on their radar.

It's probably time to check out what's out there on the offensive tackle market.

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This is suprising to me.

I thought that since they didn’t draft a tackle that they thought they were set at the position. This changes everything.

Chiefs are on the up and up

by Chiefs1 on Jul 31, 2011 7:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Everything.

Chiefs are on the up and up

by Chiefs1 on Jul 31, 2011 8:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Everything?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 31, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everything!

"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "

by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does it change how you feal about banannas?

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

er bananas

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWSA?

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tacoma Women's Sailing Association?

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

are you from Tacoma?

no, That’s What She Asked?

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats the only TWSA abreviation I know...shrudge

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brown would have been a major upgrade. He seemed to get back to full speed last year, and I was hoping we could sign him to a more team friendly deal, considering the injury concerns. But I guess what Dan Snyder wants, Dan Snyder gets…

by Topchief1 on Jul 31, 2011 8:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone who chooses the Skins over the Bears and us

Is clearly more interested in money than winning.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 31, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by LadyChief on Jul 31, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah but you underestimate the nacisistic nature of the situation.

They most likely believe that the Skins will start winning immediately, on the sole basis of their own arrival.

lol.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

True story

BTW, good to see you back around here a lot K-man. It wasn’t the same without you.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 31, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we lose out on Shanle and get Siler

now do we lose out on Brown and get Harris or Kaczur? I like Siler over Shanle for age and talent reasons and I would like Harris or Kaczur too (assuming they are healthy).

by ChiefMizzou09 on Jul 31, 2011 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Well this was last year that the Chiefs went after Brown.

But maybe.

"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan

by MtHammer on Jul 31, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoops, no it wasn't.

Nevermind.

"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan

by MtHammer on Jul 31, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does this mean....................

they are not happy with Richardson??

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by LadyChief on Jul 31, 2011 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

So, there is some holes in the moat.....................

that need to be plugged………

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by LadyChief on Jul 31, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously.

Any time they look at or sign anyone, it’s an indictment on the starter at their position.

by Tarkus on Jul 31, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, drafting as well

You know there is only 22 players on each team right? Not 53, silly

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jul 31, 2011 8:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

always about bringing in competition

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 31, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

It never ceases to amaze me that a player chooses the Redskins

by Spiderwomn69 on Jul 31, 2011 8:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

"It's not about the money, it's about winning."

 - except for all those times when it’s not – never

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gilberry got $1.9M.

Not bad for a situational player. Hopefully he becomes more than that.

by Tarkus on Jul 31, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely

He bulked up this year, hopefully it helps him become more of an all-around guy.

by bh13 on Jul 31, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

for one year?

I assume yes based on a tender offer

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he does, we'll have the wonderful dilemma of plenty of bigs

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 31, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ryan Sims...spit

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds alright

I mean Albert is a solid LT but could be the next Shields imo. Richardsons good at run blocking but not good enough to make up for poor pass blocking even against a teams 2nd best pass rusher. As much as we joke about Albert if he moved to LG his run blocking would be a huge asset specially against big dlines. And his biggest pass blocking issue is speedy rushers not slower strong ones. So if you put him up against Large DEs or DTs depending on other teams Dfense he would have a lot better pass blocking.

by Kmillz2525 on Jul 31, 2011 8:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Jamaal Brown...

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 31, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The fact

We got all these WRs lol we seem like we might want to pass the ball around some. And I don’t think with out some upgrades Cassel will have similar numbers to last year I mean if both your Tackles have issues with pass blocking its not good for your QB lol

by Kmillz2525 on Jul 31, 2011 8:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

So you don't think that Albert and Richardson can improve?

They are both very young and very unlikely they have hit their ceilings yet. Bringing in competition for them is expected, but unless Jake Long or Joe Thomas fell into our laps, I wouldn’t expect any player to be brought in to replace either of them. Nor will either of them be moved to a different position.

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jul 31, 2011 8:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If we did move albert over to LG it would have to look something like this....

Joe Thomas, Albert, Hudson, AWESOM-O 5000, Ryan Harris

lilja swing….richardson swing

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

With the AWESOM-O 5000...

the rest of the line is pretty much irrelevant.

by Tarkus on Jul 31, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

lets hope that turns out to be the case

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

need one of those on defense too................

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by LadyChief on Jul 31, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

You need a SPLAT-O-MATIC 5000 on defense.

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by LadyChief on Jul 31, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

am I the only one who read the instructions on how to build a chiefs superbowl team?

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

think you mean 69

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what are you doing with Asamoah/Lilja in the meantime?

Albert is an OT. There doesn’t appear to be any indication that the Chiefs will ever move him to G (or any of his other “natural” positions). This indicates the Chiefs want to upgrade the OT position in general. At most, the signing of Jamaal Brown would’ve moved Albert to RT and Richardson to the depth chart.

I think we all need to accept the fact that Albert is going to be an OT as long as he is a Chief.

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Jul 31, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saying we could have problems

If we wanted to pass more. Asamoah played a few games he didn’t start as good as I think he will be he hasn’t proven anything to ME yet idk about Haley. Lilja is good but undersized and maybe trading him after his great year would be a good thing. I’m just saying our pass protection is sketchy and we just spent a lot of money and a pick on WRs so yeah

by Kmillz2525 on Jul 31, 2011 8:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This just means...

That Pioli wasn’t willing to overpay for a 30+ year old RT. You have to think that if the salary was equal Brown was heading back to Washington.

by WesternChief on Jul 31, 2011 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

4 Names I still see as possibilities.

Ryan Harris
Sean Locklear
Charlie Johnson
Jeremy Trueblood

At the very least, any of them would push Richardson in camp.

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Jul 31, 2011 8:24 PM CDT reply actions  

What are the penalties if we don't reach the minimum salary floor?

At this point, not making the salary floor seems to be a real possibility.

by Over9000 on Jul 31, 2011 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

none.....it doesnt effect anyone till 2013

so we really could be about done with the name FA signings

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 31, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

IMO that is reason for rash of One year deals.

They will evaluate who they want to extend and who will be expendable. I would hope they determine who they like early and lock them up.

"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle

by CatChief on Jul 31, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Got it, thanks.

I am officially lowering my expectations for FA signings.

by Over9000 on Jul 31, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have all season to get there

We can work out extensions for our players and get there before the season is over easily

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jul 31, 2011 8:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And what SDCHIEF said

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jul 31, 2011 8:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

huh?

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesnt matter.....floor means nothing till 2013

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 31, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought

there was still a floor, just like in previous years, and you had to hit it before the end of the year.

they were discussing it on sirius earlier, and said that teams can even put in bogus qualifiers in a reworked contract to hit the floor knowing full well the person wouldn’t hit the qualifiers that year.

then in 2013 it’s the new 99% of cash cap, only that’s not per team, that’s overall. or something, i didn’t really follow how the new floor is gonna work.

by fongKC on Jul 31, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im lost? Why would this come as a suprise?

Its Jammal Brown, the guy is good! Why would he not be on our radar if we got the money and need to upgrade if possible. Worst case scenario we have to cut someone and instantly we add an upgrade and depth that we dont really have I mean if Alberts goes down who steps in?

by the great thunderlips on Jul 31, 2011 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

It shouldn’t. I honestly saw his signing as a possible Willie Roaf pt. 2, i.e. former saint comes to town and rejuvinates a flagging career.

by Topchief1 on Jul 31, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

because a lot of people

think that if they don’t hear of a FA signing then Pioli is sitting in his office doing nothing.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bring on Harris or Kaczur

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Kaczur's back injury bothers me.

I don’t like the thought of a guy with back problems being brought in. Look at Gaither. He failed his physical in Oakland.

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not for nothing but I've made about 50 similar comments to the one below here

explaining why they’re looking to replace Richardson. Everyone thought I was crazy of course. I tried to warn you guys that this is coming: Here’s one of about 50.

I’m not making a big deal out of it at all….I’m just saying that we can have that fire in the belly, and the respect for authority, and it’s easily and readily available, right now, for the same money, and I’m saying that the fans underestimate how seriously both Pioli and Haley have viewed the incident, and I’m saying that I belive, that Pioli and Haley both, still….do not consider it water under the bridge. They’re patient in their revenge tactics, as we have seen with Pollard, and with Page, and the repurcussions, I believe, are yet to come.

Time will tell if my analysis of the Pioli plan for Richardson comes to fruition, but a visual trip and look around in the mind of Pioli, tells me, he can’t forget this, and doesn’t want a physical reminder of his lack of action in regard to the matter, staring him in the face, on a daily basis.

For Pioli, it’s about keeping his mind free of needless clutter, and moving on, to less risky ground.

Moving Richardson, means he can forget about it, and I gotta beleive that deep down, he wants him punished for his defiance, otherwise, he’s saying to the entire fan base and the entire squad, that you can act that way, and still be considered, one of the right 53. And that’s gonna grate on him, until he makes the ultimate statement, and let’s Richardson go.

That’s the mindset of a GM, and a HC, and rightfully so.

There are some things in life, you just can’t do.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I still dont believe they are replacing richardson...or at least that its as big of a deal as you make it out to be

they are looking for competition, period

Its laughable that a blow up on the sidelines=replaced

if anything they wanted to see SOME emotion from b-rich, this was a guy who in his scouting report was listed as a guy who played with passion, and that was why his game suffered

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

without* passion

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Proof is in the pudding my friend.
Its laughable that a blow up on the sidelines=replaced

And yet, that’s what’s in the works nonetheless.

Wait and see.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the works?

Yep really seems to be working what they’re doing in the works…

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 31, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree with SDChief

I think they are always looking for competition. Haley doesn’t hide this, he tells us in every single press conference. They are constantly on the look out for someone that can “give us a better chance to win”.

Haley has long ago forgotten that incident you are always so worked up about.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

er...how about Richardson just cant pass block?

sometimes a pencil is just a pencil K-man

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

bill maas came on the radio this week....

(This was before the Kelly Gregg signing!!).

He was asked what’s the greatest need right now for this team was. If you had one position to add to what would it be….

 He said OL. Big guys upfront. I still think we will get another OL. And hope we do

by KCLonghorn on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's a 2nd one. And no I'm not going to post all 50.
Because of the incident on national tv last year when Richardson flew into a rage on the sideline yelling at Haley and chest bumping the assistant coach. Outrageous behavior. He just plain lost it. At the time, I remember thinking, man, I hope they dump his ass, I don’t care how good he is. Maybe I’m old school, but I just don’t believe in defying the authority of the head coach, espescially in a way that physically intimidated the much smaller assistant coach. He was physically threatening a coach with bodily harm, and there’s no other way to see it, except clearly unacceptable. Just my opinion. Others will say, heat of the moment, a competitive spirit, bla bla bla….I just see it as loose cannon, and a potential cancer on the o-line, and he’s not so damn special that he’s earned any kind of right to conduct himself that way. He’s easily replaced with equal or better talent, and imo that’s what needs to happen, so guys will think twice about sideline temper tantrums that seek to upstage and undermine our coaching decisions at the precise moments in critical game situations when cool heads must prevail to make the proper decisions. I want him gone, and that’s that.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

what's the point of quoting yourself?

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just to entertain Tarkus.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

And because I can.

And maybe just to stir up the hornet’s nest of Richardson lovers just a wee bit.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love him

and theres nothing you can do about it!!

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

What'dya say guys, should I post all 50? Okay Okay...just one more and I'll stop.
I’m not saying O’Cal is going to start over Richardson. I think they think that David Mims may be able to step right in or someone as yet unsigned. Clearly if
they were happy with Richardson, their very first order of business would not have been to bring in the 6-8 335 pound Mims.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Some people ya just can't convince until the fat lady sings.

And then ya can’t find em to say I told ya so. lol.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

WHEN Richardson is replaced it will be because of one of the following:

-he goes to 2nd string because a more talented player replaces him after competition
-he is traded for something/someone else because someone better has replaced him
-he is released at the end of his contract because someone better has replaced him
-he enters free agency and we are outbid for his services
-he moves to LT because he is so awesome and it will allow us to move Albert to LG, his natural position
-he retires to start the HOF clock while Haley writes his induction speech that includes a humorous recollection of a sideline incident many years ago involving BRich that served as the original indication to Haley that this player was going to be great

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okey dokey. But you left one out.

-Because Pioli couldn’t forget his disrespect for the coaching staff in a critical situation, identified it as a serious character flaw and a weakness, and decided to use him to set an example by bringing in an ample or better replacement during training camp and then dumping him.

(The only reason that there is evidence for as of this moment)

Exhibit A) The signing of Mims
Exhibit B) Pursuing Jamaal Brown.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

other evidence

1)drafted Baldwin because Bowe sucks and needs to be dumped
2)drafted Hudson because Weigmann sucks and needs to be dumped
3)drafted Houston because Vrabel stole beer
4)drafted Bailey because TJax sucks
5)drafted Brown because Flowers needs to be dumped
6)drafted Stanzi because Cassel yelled at Haley a couple of times
7)drafted Miller because DJ sucks
8)drafted Powe because Shaun Smith squeezed balls
9)drafted Bannon because, well who knows.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

What you don't get kabrink, is that I don't form my own opinions of the players

Their actions and play on the field form it for me. I was the most ardent supporter of Richardson’s before the incident last year. He changed my mind on being one of the right 53 that day.

Here’s one of many many of my comments in support of Richardson.

I hope O’Cal is out and Richardson starts. They should have had Richardson on first team from the beginning.

I firmly believe that any man’s finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle…………victorious. ~Vince Lombardi

by TheK-man on Sep 15, 2010 8:58 PM CDT

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

what you don't get is that incident

while shocking is really, really irrelevant to Haley. Haley said at the time, it would be handled internally and it was. This incident had physical contact so it puts it above simply yelling but it was still just a competitive reaction. As to other temper incidents, as I alluded to in my list above, Cassel has yelled at Haley several times. Haley doesn’t care. His coaches have yelled back at him. He doesn’t care.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's exactly where we disagree. You believe that a GM like

Pioli and a Head Coach like Haley, can just dismiss disrespect for authority issues in players and still call them one of the right 53, just because they don’t elaborate on incidents when they occur.

I believe your wrong about that, and that their memories are very long when these incidents occur, and that depending upon the severity, could result in an eventual personnel change at the position and for the player in question.

I believe neither Pioli or Haley, can forget what happened, have identified it as a potential risk in game situations, and would prefer to eliminate it….because they can, so why not.

It’s not like there’s no one better out there they can bring in and pay the same money to, and who also has a health respect for coaches and authority.

Just my opinion. They do care. They’re paid to care. If they didn’t…the words….The Right 53, would have never been uttered in Kansas City.

But I respect your opinion, that Pioli and Haley would allow, and ignore, physical and verbal abuse of the coaching staff from out of control players and that they don’t care about it at all as you say.

I just steadfastly disagree with that opinion.

And I can’t believe your’re comparing Cassel yelling at Haley to what Richardson did. That’s really laughable.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never said the incident was ignored.

Coach told us they would deal with it in house. I assume BRich took whatever punish was administered whether it was a tongue lashing, being beat with a bagful of oranges, waterboarding, having binder clips put on his nipples, or being shot with pennies by the entire team. The team is satisfied that he was told what he did was wrong and not to be tolerated, that he was punished, and that he understands.

Obviously, now they will wait to see if the guy demonstrates that he learned from it or whether he proves to be a habitual problem.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jul 31, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think K-man had his underwear pulled up over his head too much in highschool :D

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps. If Haley had the only vote. I wouldn't be saying Richardson is gone.

Pioli is the one driving the replacement of Richardson, and Haley will just go along and not object to it. That’s really all there is to it.

Pioli is the boss. The right 53 are his choice when it comes to character cuts and trades.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Jul 31, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like a rat in a trap

being led hither and yon by Joel and Chris :)

lead on I like Cheese

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

they can drag me hither....but like hell they are dragging me yon!

Team Berry
Team Burfict or Team Te'O
...if I cant have the next Ray Lewis...ill settle for the next Junior Seau

by MasterBlaster7 on Jul 31, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh good god

I almost hope he isn’t just because you’ll be insufferable. Congratulations, you are the one member of Arrowhead Pride who thinks BRich could be upgraded.

"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare

by craig in calgary on Aug 1, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And so you listen

"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare

by craig in calgary on Aug 1, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I will do what you always do

"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare

by craig in calgary on Aug 1, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And continue to reply to my own comments

"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare

by craig in calgary on Aug 1, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

When all it does is clog up the thread

"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare

by craig in calgary on Aug 1, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

When it could be one consise comment

"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare

by craig in calgary on Aug 1, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This would be true, if there were only such a word as "consise"

but there isn’t.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Max Starks.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the Chiefs are really serious about upgrading our RT position, they'll pursue

Starks. Just realeased by the Steelers. 6’8 345, started last 50 games for them.

Time to get rid of bad character and bring in a professional at RT.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

That "345" line is apparently a little out of date.

Word on the street is the Steelers cut him because he was pushing 400 lbs. Maybe at nose tackle?

"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan

by MtHammer on Aug 1, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I read that. That could Nix it. But it does appear that the Steelers

players love this guy and wanted him to stay. But I’d admit that 400 is too heavy even at 6’8" tall.

In this heat, he can shave off 30 lbs pretty quick though, and continue to drop some more as the pre-season progresses. I’d still sign him.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol. Okey dokey.

Two words for you. Max Starks.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Max Starks.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Max Starks.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

And it's too bad Pioli and Haley aren't AP members, then there would be 3 of us.

Well, 4, including Joel Thorman. Math isn’t your strong suit isn’t horse rider?

What this tells us is that the Chiefs are willing to search for an upgrade at Barry Richardson’s spot at right tackle. We’ll see if they actually make a move there but Brown’s comments suggest that it’s at least on their radar.

It’s probably time to check out what’s out there on the offensive tackle market.

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." ~Yogi Berra

by TheK-man on Aug 1, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

The point were at with this team is

There are no real NEEDS. Every position we bring in is for competition, depth, or maybe even slight improvement. There’s no team in the NFL now or ever that has been solid at every single position. There’s always going to be weaknesses so every incremental improvement helps.

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 1:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh... I wish that were true....we still have a lot to prove

IMO we haven’t done crap. We couldn’t even beat the Raiders at home. The guys we have on roster are good players, but we haven’t seen enough to say that they are going to be great just yet.
Which would lead me to say that everyone is replaceable until they prove otherwise. Even Flowers wasen’t his shut down self last year.

Jared Allen, Culinary Acadamy

by aPacificChief on Aug 1, 2011 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd argue that Flowers was at his best ever till he got hurt

And I didn’t say we were great at any position but we have no glaring needs like a year or 2 ago when there were needs everywhere. Coaches are in place, there is young talent mostly everywhere. We lost to the Raiders because of a couple BS plays. We lost to the Colts because of one BS play.

by RamX21 on Aug 1, 2011 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

In 2008-2009 the Chiefs where LUCKY if they could beat themselves.

In 2010 the Chiefs beat most of the teams they ‘should’ beat, sneaked out a win or two against teams they ‘should not’ have beat, and played competitively against everyone else.

by DivineGrace on Aug 1, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

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