Your Chiefs Training Camp Practice Report
by Joel Thorman on Jul 31, 2011 7:34 PM CDT
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The third day of practice in the Kansas City Chiefs training camp is in the books. It was another hot and humid day at Missouri Western State University as the Chiefs took the field for a pair of practice sessions today. The first one, per the new rules, was a walk-through and the second one was more of a regular practice.
The defensive and offensive linemen got to put shoulder pads on today but other than them the rest of the guys were just in helmets. If Todd Haley wanted to, he could have put them in full pads today.
The most entertaining part of practice is usually the competitive period at the end which is basically 11-on-11. Today, though, I think the best part was the linemen going at it.
Here's how it worked: one defensive lineman (notable NT Anthony Toribio and NT Jerrell Powe) would line up against three offensive linemen. The ball is snapped and each side tries to bury the other. Toribio and Powe seemed to hold their own at times on the defensive side and I noticed rookie C Rodney Hudson driving some of the defensive linemen. It didn't hurt that this drill happened right in front of where the media was standing.
It looked like there would be a fight on nearly every play because it was so intense but, alas, we are fight-free through three days of camp.
We heard from a number of players and coaches, including Bill Muir and Jim Zorn so look for stories on those guys coming soon.
Onto the practice notes....
-TE Tony Moeaki and FB Tervaris Johnson were in the rehab zone, as they have been throughout camp.
-C Casey Wiegmann made an appearance on the field today. No, not practicing because he can't do that until Aug. 4 but he was watching the offensive linemen practice. He walked onto the field with GM Scott Pioli, shook hands and gave a quick hug to Romeo Crennel then starting watching the big uglies work out.
-Romeo Crennel's interaction with the defensive linemen is really entertaining. "Protect those knees! Get down and protect them!" He's yelling encouragement for about 10 consecutive minutes and just doesn't stop.
-Your punt returners today were CB Javier Arenas, WR/RB Dexter McCluster and WR Jerheme Urban.
-K Ryan Succop looked solid with several kicks under 50 yards. He was kicking them through the uprights and into a crowd of kids who were playing the ultimate game of 500 trying to catch the ball.
-I noticed a few nice catches from McCluster coming out of the backfield. QB Matt Cassel hit him on a deep pass down the right side of the field. There wasn't any coverage on the play but McCluster caught it over his shoulder about 35 yards down the field. He had another one from Cassel in traffic across the middle that required some concentration. His best, though, came on a pass from QB Ricky Stanzi down the left sideline. McCluster had a defensive back under and over the top of him and leapt in the air to haul in the pass near the sideline.
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That's good to hear
McCluster had a defensive back under and over the top of him and leapt in the air to haul in the pass near the sideline.
seeing how McCluster is a little on the short side
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That's because the pass
from Stanzi was perfectly placed
by RamX21 on Jul 31, 2011 7:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not too perfect
If he had to leap :)
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Had to get it out of the hands of the DBs
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If he was over 5'7''
He probably wouldn’t have had to jump haha
by RamX21 on Jul 31, 2011 7:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm sure he still has to leap lol.
Baldwin, on the other hand… (:
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Stanzi's pass was perfect.
McCluster was bracketed. The ball went over one and in front of the other it was very nice.
You can start the count now if you want
I’m gonna say Stanzi’s name at least 300 times this year
by RamX21 on Jul 31, 2011 7:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
First Cassel incomplete pass in the first game:
“OMG PUT IN STANZI! CASSEL SUCKS!!!!!!!”
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Jul 31, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Like people are going to wait that long.
by Tarkus on Jul 31, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Truth is...
Cassel could throw 5/5 on his first five throws all for Tds and people would say he sucks because he only threw for 325 yards.
Go Chiefs!!!!
No it's not, that's rediculous
When Cassel has good games, people give him his due.
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Jul 31, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Link or it didn't happen.
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I've actually wondered what the fanshot section would resemble if Cassel goes down for a week with something
and Stanzi makes his first start and wins (or loses but looks very good).
I have real optimism for Stanzi, because he sounds like exactly what Haley preaches, but he has quite a lot to learn and experience before he gives us a better chance to win than Cassel does.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
GO Falko?
I believe the NFL Lockout will effect my view of the NFL for the next 10 years. If the Chiefs win a Super Bowl earlier than that all will be well in my opinion.
by Cowboynchrist on Jul 31, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That Sugar Bowl disaster...
I lost a ton of money on that.
Printers? Please
Everyone knows James Kilian is going to be our Super Bowl winning QB.
How soon we forget the wonders of Tyler Thigpen.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
speaking of printers
I watched an arena league football game last night and another member of our preseason allstar team was playing….good ol sippio
would love to
see him get in the game so he can get his ass knocked out and we can get back to football.
Don’t get me wrong, I like stanzi, he grew up 15 miles from where I live now, I keep hearing about these perfect passes and I go and watch game film and see not perfect passes.. Ok, one or two a game, and I say to myself.. humm..
by Bigcherokeechief on Jul 31, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes that would be the right way to do it.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jul 31, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That is not the 'Patriot way' they run up the score
So we must! Keep Stanzi on the bench!
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Per Gretz
There are only four running backs in camp and they are starting to show the wear and tear of getting all the snaps. Jamaal Charles, Thomas Jones, Dexter McCluster and rookie FB Shane Bannon hope for some help.
Where is Battle and Cox if they are signed and not in rehab zone?
by Spot the looney on Jul 31, 2011 7:43 PM CDT reply actions
A couple days of camp and showing wear and tear?
Wow. That’s not good at all then.
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I think it's time to move Albert to his natural position.
FB.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The problem is that we don't have...
the Deep Freeze to step in and take all the RB snaps. Pioli=worst GM ever!
Live Adventure!
by MountainManMike on Jul 31, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Never mind
I guess they are considered signed FAs and can practice on the 4th. My bad
by Spot the looney on Jul 31, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Wear and tear?
Or just fatigued. There’s no contact so Haley has to turn up the intensity somehow. Gotta get these guys ready for the season.
by RamX21 on Jul 31, 2011 7:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Albert is biggggg
Can barely see the guard next to him
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H^2-Hali and Houston
McCluster will be interesting to follow this year.
I can see him being our Reggie Bush. Return some punts, check down charlie out of the backfield, the odd gimmicke play, reverses etc. That or he’ll be gone in a year….
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by craig in calgary on Jul 31, 2011 7:48 PM CDT reply actions
It depends how we use our offense this year
More 3 wide shot gun sets would be nice to see Dex in the backfield with Charles, etc
If we stick to the like 2 TE sets with Dex in the backfield, I dont see him working out too well
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I think his value will be going to the outside from the backfield
If its a toss/sweep or a pass, need to get him in space to make plays not expect him to find space to make plays
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Several times last season after he returned from his injury
they had him running parallel to the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped, and they ran several different things out of it that seemed to work, whether or not he actually got the ball (two times, in the Rams game I think, he was running full speed from Cassel’s left to right, and Cassel just snapped it, planted, and threw to McCluster, who was much quicker to the edge than the LB trying to keep up)
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
two times on back-to-back plays, I think
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
Yeah I was thinkin of plays like that
Don’t let him try to make his own space running up the middle, but get him the ball quick before he can get surrounded and let him do his thing
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I can easily see Dex taking it up the middle, but only off the lateral threats,
either as a changeup, after some success to the edge, or just where the cutback lane presents itself.
would of ≠ would've
Add to that (or replace that with) Dex on the move when KC was in wildcat.
Two in row, motioning Dex, snap the ball when he’s close to Cassel/Jones, and the defense is in a quandary.
would of ≠ would've
Speaking of BIG
Have any of you been to camp and noticed david Mims? Holy shit he makes leonard pope look like a 5th grader. If he pans out that would be amazing he is freaking HUUGE…. no homo
Get some pics!
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
20 minute highlight video of mims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Qd4P9gZkU
the guy looks like he is playing against pop warner kids.
by 1kmilesfromkc on Jul 31, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Mims will have to be a lot quicker to make it in the pro's.
If he makes the transition, the up-side is pretty damn high. But the player from his highlights needs to add some muscle and explosion to go with that massive body.
would of ≠ would've
-Romeo Crennel’s interaction with the defensive linemen is really entertaining. “Protect those knees! Get down and protect them!” He’s yelling encouragement for about 10 consecutive minutes and just doesn’t stop.
I don’t know if it’s possible to overestimate the impact Crennel has had on this defense in general, and the line in particular.
I get the impression he notices EVERY SINGLE TINY flaw in technique and more importantly knows how to address them with each different player. We are lucky to have him, and in 1 or 2 years I think we’ll see some very ripe fruit from his time with Jackson, Powe, and Dorsey.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Jul 31, 2011 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You, sir, are a very astute judge of coaching.
Romeo is happy, i think, doing what he excels at. He may eventually want to become a HC again, but not until he puts the Chiefs in a super bowl. I love the guy. He is the product of a military father and loves the disipline. Thanks Romeo for giving us in KC the opportunity to learn from a master jedi.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
I think he wants to be a HC again now.
But since that’s not available, he’s doing his level best as DC.
I don't think so
Dude’s old
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
He said he would still be interested, when he took the job.
I don’t see where age has anything to do with it, at least from his perspective. If he feels good enough to coach, he feels good enough to head coach. The only question is whether or not he’ll get any offers.
Dude's 70
Had to deal with that surgery or whatever before he joined up, I think he’s done.
I could say I’m interested in being the King of England but it doesn’t mean I actually will become king.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 31, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
But that's not the discussion.
The discussion is whether or not he’s interested. Aiken said he may eventually want to become a HC again, and I maintain he already wants to be. That’s not to say he’s a candidate, though.
I thought it was about him actually being a HC
Now its about interest?
And you’re using Aiken as a reference?
Slippery slope my friend.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 31, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
actually
I am interested in being the King of England. Wow, that Camilla is smokin hot.
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
But you'd have to marry the current Queen
Gonna have to clear out some cobwebs
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 31, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope Crennel is teaching up his replacement
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Think you're right
He’s not as intense as Haley it seems and I think some players respond to that. Haven’t heard any of the players saying a bad thing about him, on or off the record.
by Joel Thorman on Jul 31, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Good to have some balance on the staff.
Otherwise, the message would get lost after awhile. Good cop, bad cop.
Crennel shows his guys respect.
He’ll call ‘em out on anything and everything, but it’s not like listening to Gunther Cunningham getting his jollies out of browbeating people and venting his ego. It was all about how great he was and how he thinks he’s Patton. With Crennel, it’s more about Crennel earning respect by the way his guys play, and the heart they show.
“Protect the knees!” is the kind of emphasis that comes from concern for the player. Crennel’s players don’t fear him so much as they don’t want to disappoint him. Any time a leader can get THAT out of his troops, special things can happen.
Haley runs their legs off and makes ‘em wear knee braces in practice. Makes things tougher on ’em, but it’s all about improving their chances of a healthy career.
would of ≠ would've
by hmills110 on Jul 31, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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