Le'ron McClain & Free A questions
by shotty on Jul 31, 2011 2:28 PM CDT
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PrintThe Raven's have just signed the Texans' Vonta Leach to a nice contract meaning there probably isn't room for Le'ron McClain. This signing makes me curious. The Chiefs and Giants have been linked to McClain since the Free Agent frenzy began. However, since then McClain news has become very quiet and now with Baltimore shoring up his position with another FB, you have to wonder, why?
I'm not sure whats going on behind the scenes. I've been adamant that the Chiefs need to bring in McClain because he presents a younger, stronger, more versatile skill set than that of Mike Cox (who we've since resigned), and could take the leagues' #1 rushing attack to new heights. Between Steve Breaston and Aubrayo Franklin, Le'ron McClain has been my biggest hopeful for the Chiefs this offseason. It would appear though, that there may be some underlying issues as Baltimore is clearly cutting ties and looking to let him go.
Speculate as needed. Whats the deal and why would the Ravens sign Leach when they had McClain (who wanted to return to them)? And is this the reason rumors surrounding the Chiefs and McClain have become oddly silent? Will the Chiefs sign anymore FA's (Ty Warren anyone?), or do you think we're done and this is our team?
Give me your thoughts and opinions. GO CHIEFS
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There are plenty of FA left on the market right now
Then there will be camp cuts, etc. So yes I believe we will see more players brought in
As for the Ravens and McClain, it could have just came down to money between the two sides
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
Very true
and Leach is an upgrade to the spot for them. I’m not sure how much top tier FB salaries command, but 3 years 11 million seems more than adequate for a talent like Leach.
Definitely interested in seeing who gets cut from where.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
Beginning to look like maybe there's an issue with McClain?
Maybe I just think more highly of him than I should.
This doesn’t look like a money cut. It looks like Baltimore wanted something BETTER and were willing to pay for it.
would of ≠ would've
That depends on what you mean by "pay for it."
The Ravens obviously value having a quality fullback and were willing to spend money for it. But McClain clearly wants to be paid, not just in cash, but in carries. And I think that’s where the Ravens weren’t willing to meet McClain’s “price.”
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
yep. all about getting more carries for mcclain.
also some tend to forget that we have an advantage
his name is jim zorn….zorn was the OC for mcclain last season….just saying…
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Dinner and a movie
I think we were all naive Friday night to think they were going to sign Franklin, McClain or whoever without sitting down and talking to them face to face. Haley knew Breaston well, so that signing was easier. I get the feeling Pioli and Haley want more than stats before they sign players. That may take some time, as busy as they have been.
tweeting can not be a positive for any prospective Chiefs signee
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
That is a terrific point
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
I loathe twitter
It’s Chad Johnson-esque
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Jul 31, 2011 2:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Who's this?
I believe the NFL Lockout will effect my view of the NFL for the next 10 years. If the Chiefs win a Super Bowl earlier than that all will be well in my opinion.
by Cowboynchrist on Jul 31, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright...HEY SHOTTY! WHO'S THIS?
I believe the NFL Lockout will effect my view of the NFL for the next 10 years. If the Chiefs win a Super Bowl earlier than that all will be well in my opinion.
by Cowboynchrist on Jul 31, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel the same about Facebook status updates
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Ooh hell yeas!!
No One cares that u are eating a yogurt .. Lol omg .., shut the fuck up.. Fuvking generation we live in
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Jul 31, 2011 2:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's no lie, who really has 20000 friends? Seriously, come on now....
the worst part, is that I’m really just jealous I didn’t think of it first. Talk about basically winning the lottery, good lord.
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Less they have to say, the more they insist on saying it.
Bad as an NFL blog. Whoops! (Looks in mirror).
would of ≠ would've
Great points, well said
absolutely could take some time. Its difficult hearing the news of yet another FA hopeful you had your heart set on going somewhere else. And its equally frustrating not having a clue whats going on because your team remains so silent.
No wonder Whitlock left. Nothing to write about except the Royals and how bad an owner David Glass is.
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They're not even close to 90 players.
Looks like they’re leaving themselves real room before lettiing camp decide who sticks.
would of ≠ would've
I feel that we would have gone with 90 if we had the entire offseason
but with such a short time to evaluate players, adding another 15 or so might just muck things up.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I was just looking at that
Vontae Leach is considered a better Full Back than McClain.
Clearly an upgrade for Baltimore
McClain would be an upgrade for the Chiefs.
28 teams use Fullbacks, the Chiefs use two
Leach isn't necesarily a better full back.
They wanted a great lead blocker who wouldnt want more carries like McClain did. That’s the only reason they went away with him. If you’re speaking in general terms, outside of specific circumstances, McClain is far and away a better all around FB then Leach is.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
based on 2010 Leach was better
overall I might agree McClain is better
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Stats don't tell the whole story.
Baltimore didn’t use McClains talents to their potential. McClain is a far better pass catcher and runner then Leach is. Leach is a one trick pony. He blocks and he’s inefficient in carrying the ball and receiving.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
McClain reminds me of TRich in his prime....
A deadly lead blocker plus good enough as a RB to be a Featured Back in a single back set as he was for a while.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
McClain's better at catching the ball than Richardson was at the same point.
But what GB’s saying makes sense. Considering how I did NOT want to see McClain running the ball, I was surprised at how I got my wish.
would of ≠ would've
Interesting you say that
I mean we have JC, TJ, and DMC (supposedly) in the backfield, would talks have broken down due to McClain’s desire to have more carries? And personally, if it helps keep TJ fresh and paves the way for JC to net more yards, why wouldn’t the Chiefs want to sign him?
McClain seems to have a better skill set than Leach, and is far and away a better player than Cox, I’m struggling to see how this move would hurt the Chiefs.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
it would only hurt
if McClain developed an attitude of needing more carries after he was here. But, in my mind, you just need him to hang on for this year. Next year, Jones is gone and LeRon picks up his work load.
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
or maybe a 100 carries of Jones load this season would be an upgrade
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Possibly five
We don’t really know what we have in Bannon yet.
Run the Full-House package all day.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
OOOOooooohhh now that would be something to see!
I just got chills thinking about it.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
I gots it!!!!!
ya know how the Steelers have that walk around defense…..
we could have the 5-6 man bunch backfield and then SHIFT.
is this legal?
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
7 people need to be on the line at all times
so it could only be a 4 man shift
I get vision of Knute Rockne’s 4 Horsemen, now that goes way back
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 31, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
thats exactly it. then jones retires, and we have charles and mcclain, both young and in their prime, as a 1/2
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
after the year I of course mean
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I would expect that if we landed McClain he would split majority of carries with JC.
Dex would sub for JC for series or two and TJ would sub for McClain for series or two.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
McClain had an awesome 2009 campaign and I think he got a little fat last year
He is supposed to be in awesome shape now
Thats what I've been hearing as well
he was sitting on/around 260lbs and trimmed that into the 230’s and said he’s in the best shape of his life or something like that?
Either way, Leach didn’t go to Denver, I’m grateful for that, but we have use for a FB with McClain’s skill set and him coming here would make a world of difference. But that again, is just my opinion.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
Long time follower first time poster
I know we all have our own opinions so i figured I would throw mine out there. I think with the money we have left lets shore up our soon to be free agents. Re-sign Flowers, Carr, Bowe and Hali. We have a good thing going and those players are young and on the rise still. Shore them up with the money we have and we should be set for years to come. Anyone else agree?
by Chiefs Nation 24 on Jul 31, 2011 2:56 PM CDT reply actions
Agree, except we got the money to do a couple of new guys and all of the Vets we want to Re-sign
If you think it will cost 8-10 million each per year to re-sign Flowers and Carr then we probably won’t
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Well,
Hali, and Carr aren’t in camp, does anyone know why? pay our guys and continue the great team chemistry we have built. Another thing to think about, if we sign Bowe long term, we have Baldwin for 4 years, Breaston for 5 years and Bowe for atleast 4 years. Our receiving core is set for years to go along with KC’s new contract. Dominant O for years!
by Chiefs Nation 24 on Jul 31, 2011 3:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hali, Carr, Gilberry, and Richardson have contracts waiting their signatures
Pioli knows exactly what he will be paying them come Aug 4th.
If he wants to renogiate the contracts after that he can for the entire 2011 season
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes we can agree and thanks for posting! Opinions are always welcome here
I think we can expect them to resign (or at least make a serious effort to resign) each one of those with the exception of Bowe.
Not a popular view around here, but personally I have little to no faith in Bowe. Feel like I’m holding my breath every time they throw him the ball because chances are he’s going to drop it.
Maybe that’ll change. Haley has seemed to have had a very positive effect on Bowe, and with the latest additions to our Offense, Bowe has the chance to truly shine. Until then, I’ll still be holding my breath on every pass. Or at least until the Chiefs sign Larry Fitzgerald =)
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
I still worry
a little bit about Bowe the same way you do. I also worry if there is any regression in DJ. I hope not, I hope both of these guys continue to step it up again going forward.
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
Agreed and I don't think the DJ fear is unwarranted
Crennel has a knack for getting the most out of his players though so I’m less concerned there. However, I think DeMario is still a capable player and would fit right in if DJ regresses. Still hoping they find a suitable backup/competition for Belcher.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
McClain wants more carries. And since he is both a good runner and blocker.....
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
That is a real possibility
Limiting Jones’ carries though would help keep him fresh going into the Nov-Dec months and McClain is a stone-cold-stunning blocker that could pave the way for JC, TJ, and DMC.
McClain is a FB and they typically don’t see a lot of action with the ball. But he can receive out of the backfield, block, and pound the rock on 3rd and short and goaline situations, an area where Tj struggled last season. Hard to pass on a guy that can provide the tools he possesses.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
McClain isn't just a FB. He is basically a quick, powerful FB
Remember Kimble Anders? FB who I believe took over as a HB for a season or two.
McClain’s talent and versatility is what excites me so much
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
McClain had 29 rushes and 23 pass targets in 618 plays last year
in 2009 668 snaps 52 rushes and 28 pass targets
I would want more touches tooooooooo
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Jones had 470 snaps with 250 carries and 18 pass targets
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I think McClain would not only be great addition here
but he’d actually be happy playing here as well. Such a versatile player with his abilities he’d become another sure-fire weapon to add to our already diverse arsenal. I really hope we sign this guy.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
somewhere i saw on some site talking about how the Chiefs are loaded with playmakers
fantasy related, which I guess is a negative to them :)
Haha
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Bill Williamson on ESPN was gushing about the potential talent
the Chiefs have and how dangerous they could be in the next few seasons.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
I know you're kidding
But for those that want him and haven’t seen it, Barnett signed with the Bills.
I had high hopes for Kevin Burnett
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
This I can get behind.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Kevin Garnett would give Cassel a nice tall target....
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha maybe we could get LeBron to bring his talents to KC
when he gets boo’d out of the NBA. Make a solid TE.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
Matt Roth. Aubrayo Franklin. Le'ron McClain. Brett Favre. Pat Williams. Jared Gaither.
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Manny Lawson, Channing Crowder.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Still like to see Lawson here
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
The Raiders passed on Gaither and they're desperate
that’s sketchy. I could see us either getting Ty Warren to pair with Gregg, or Williams for rotation. I think we’re out of the Franklin stakes.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
not so fast, there young fella :)
Pioli is just letting a few targets simmer
The music is playing and players are running out of chairs to sit in
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ha musical chairs, nice
man I hope you’re right.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
Yeah, I'm guessing the physical wasn't clean yet.
Think I saw Warren was in Denver and heading to houston?
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Man I hope not
like to have Warren here. If he goes its down to Williams and Franklin, And I’m feeling like we’re not making a play for Frank…and Williams is the size of a small Brontosaurus and about as old as one too…not sure how that bodes well for us.
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
Yeah Warren is a DE not NT not sure why yall are talking about Warren and Gregg in a rotation
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Another DE/DT is another DE/DT.
I’m sure Crennel would find a way to get Warren onto the field.
would of ≠ would've
Warren could(or would) mean the end of Jackson
IIRC they tried Warren at NT a few times when Wilfork was on the sidelines for a breather and Warren just got washed out
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 1, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure what happened was
The Raiders are confident in Veldheer going forward and want Gaither to start at RT, which he doesn’t want to do again
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 31, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Gaither failed a physical
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
That too
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 31, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
i could see McClain
AND Roth. Both would fit their roles great. Gaither must have issues. Williams is just too old. Farve can’t keep his jeans on anymore.
Epic is as epic does...
Favre was a joke.
If Gaither has issues, sign a two year deal, Backload it and put him on IR.
Williams would be okay rotational guy.
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying do all these. Just throwing out names and ideas
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I know
I was playing along. Is it me or is everyone just waiting around for another signing thread to pop up….
Epic is as epic does...
Remember the draft? Pioli gets pleasure out of milking us emotionally.
Who isn’t ready for him to sign ten more guys to put us over the top so we can just sit back and talk about the super bowl?
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
That's no joke
I’m drained and I haven’t done a worthwhile thing all day!
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
Always gotta one up everyone else don'tcha =)
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
it was like 95 degrees
yard is brown, yeah
i figure I will mow it again in Sept :)
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I was home for a week three weeks ago expecting a jungle of a yard to mow
And compared to last year it was tame. Like you said, won’t need to mow now until September.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
you do know the Vietnam war is over
come home GB!
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Crap what am I dont here hiding under this bush trying to get a wifi connection then?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Making brush angels?
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Love cranking down the setting just for that reason
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
Ha I did not scalp it
actually had a number of trees trying to start young lives.
HAHHHHH, vindictive Ass mowed em down.
helps getting through this FA period
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You're a terrible person! Where's the tree huggers when you need em
My mower’s gassed up, I’m gonna go look for some in my yard now….
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
You are going to mow tree huggers?
Well thats not nice…
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh. They'll tolerate it.
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Julian Peterson was cut too.
He’s actually a really good player and could make for nice SILB competition.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Yep
He was with Detroit last year.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Detroit was dying for lbs because that was a major weak spot last year? Why let him go?
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Tulloch and another LB they signed over the weekend
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, but why replace him if he is so great?
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Money
He was due 16M over the next 2 years.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He's good but he's not 8m/season good.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. That explains everything.
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 31, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
For example
Tulloch is a better player and they got him for less then that.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
one year deal
I guess Detroit just wanted to taste the goods
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what she said
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Does he have any legs left
I remember his strength as being an all over the field play killer
Epic is as epic does...
only issue with him, is the injury history, isnt that what has derailed his career
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Getting a little sick of NFL network running the same stuff all day long...
Mix it up or do some live stuff or something, the whole world is sitting here waiting for news of something happening. Live shots from camps or something worthwhile….Yeesh….
Epic is as epic does...
No joke, wish they'd get some better analysts/anchors
the other night with cracked-out Uncle Irvin screaming opinions repeat was unbearable. Maybe that’s where Justin Houston’s been hanging out….
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I really wonder what his deal was. people said he was high, to me that looked like a guy either off his meds, or on a new medication to control something and it went wrong when something set him off
they should have stopped him from digging that hole
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Fell off the wagon
I honestly don’t think it was much of a drop.
As LT once said "DON"T SMOKE CRACK!"
Epic is as epic does...
Ha "And that kids, is why you don't do drugs!"
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
ILB
Lofa Tatupu just released. He would look great in a Chiefs uniform.
Id like to see mcclain, maybe a manny lawson if its cheap...but mostly mcclain
I think our pass offense is awesome.
our run offense is awesome
but if you add mcclain, our offense becomes very very physical, and we can get that third and one in the playoffs. He would help in so many ways as more than just a FB
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I'd like to see Lawson or Roth on defense.
I just don’t see Studie as a very good option. It’s funny to me how many people want Studie to get the nod and how many are down on Belcher when Belcher is so much further along at ILB then Studie is OLB.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
reply fail below
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Im with you on that one. so far im more impressed with studie on ST than anything else, the effort stuff...but not sure hes ready to full time start
and belcher, people are ready to replace him! this guy was a DE in maine! I mean cmon! Hes getting better, and hes a thumper. Hes like our Brian Cox, or Brandon Spikes. Im happy with his progress, and dont want him gone
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Is kinda funny how many people think Stude will tear it up for really no reason
I’d love to have Lawson even if he didn’t put up big sack #s in San Fran
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
agree, there is a guy who could use some quality coaching, and thats what we have. Id like to see that
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Quality coaching.. or Tamba across from him
Which would help more..
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
honestly. both. coaching is so underrated its insane
take DJ. coincidence hes playing it his best….
how bout the example of tamba….why is he playing at his best? coaching
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Well you can't pick both, I said which would help MORE aka one or the other
IIRC Lawson was there with Nolan.. he knows his stuff, so its not like he has had no coaching at all.
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
then coaching
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I just didnt want to take away from hali. but coaching. thought that became clear with how I gave credit to his production via coaching
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
That's the thing.
Studie is a liability in run defense and setting the corner which is a SOLB #1 priority, he’s a decent pass rusher which is their #2 priority and he’s a liability in pass defense(but what about his 2 Ints against Pit? That was one game).
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
Lawson may have not gotten the #s but he is better against the run, better dropping back, and did have his fair share of pressures
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
And I think just more physical in general.
Studie isn’t that physical stalwart on the corner who goes sniffing for contact. He’s a great special teamer and he’s good in sub packages(although he’ll probably eventually lose these responsibilities to houston).
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh wow.. we forgot about Gabe Miller!
Dude is gonna rip it up
Couldn’t help it..
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Miller might end up being a player too
Could push Belcher if Pioli was serious when he said he may get a shot at ILB right after he was drafted.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
He's certainly built to play SILB.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm still holding out to see Stude at SILB
Prolly never happen, but hey I think it could be a great fit
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on who gets pushed out of the OLB mix and whether they can fulfill the SILB job description.
Which is why I’m with you on Studie at SILB as a definite possibility. Studie might just be relegated to backup status.
would of ≠ would've
At this point Stude might be the best option at SOLB though
No Houston, No Lawson, etc
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 1, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Micah Johnson is another guy I'd like to see do well.
Another potential guy at ILB. UDFA but seems to have alot of upside.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on his knee, the Star had a picture of him/DJ/DW in camp.. he looks big next to them
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep I noticed that too.
I thought it was one of our DEs.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Jul 31, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Out of left field thought..
the 250+lb beastly looking Micah at SOLB?
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Johnson and Greenwood
Though haven’t heard much about him yet. Apparently Cole impressed enough to be running with the two’s.
Kind of early to really go by who is where on the depth chart
Should be an interesting battle at SILB/SOLB
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
True
They aren’t even really practicing much of anything yet.
LB and a few other positions should be interesting to watch.
can't wait for Aug 12
the youngsters are going to be the focus
for me anyway
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 31, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, especially excited to see ricky stanzi etc
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I don't know what to expect from Miller
But I imagine he’ll spend a year or two on the practice squad before we find out.
I do have some hopes for Sheffield, but he plays behind Tamba if I remember right.
Sheff lined up on left and right last year in preseason and has lined up on the left(SOLB) side
in TC this year
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Lawson started 16 games, Studie had very limited time on the field
They had the same amount of sacks and Lawson had only 20 more tackles. What makes you think that in a starting role Studie couldn’t outperform lawson?
With how our team is now(aka AFC West Champs/play off caliber)
I would rather go with a proven player than tossing question marks out on the field.
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 1, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah cause he kills it on ST
Until he proves otherwise thats all he will be
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 1, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
crazy movement in the RBs
Snelling may go to Giants now or they’re trying to leverage Ahmad Bradshaw
Hightower just traded to Washington
Benson re-signed at Cinn – obviously he had no other good choice
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
really wonder where bradshaw will go
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
which makes the LeRon silence odd
Bears also picked up Barber
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
thats what gives me hope. silence, plus no return to baltimore. you never know
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Anyone know much about Siler?
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
From what I understand
he cuts people’s heads open and steals their superpowers.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
by MtHammer on Jul 31, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What a great show.
It’s too bad there wasn’t a second season.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Ha and then he turned into Spock!
Double whammy
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
There is a Siler thread...
Even has a link to his wiki page! Hows that for cutting edge?
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't sure who he was..
So I did a quick google search… This was before I saw it on AP. (I don’t always trust what I see on twitter) and the Wiki Page already said he was a Chief…
I believe the NFL Lockout will effect my view of the NFL for the next 10 years. If the Chiefs win a Super Bowl earlier than that all will be well in my opinion.
by Cowboynchrist on Jul 31, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I've heard of him before and seen him play so it's an alright signing
Not earth shattering but could be good depending how they try to work him in
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 31, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope, that's too advanced
2011 hopefuls: Being competitive and whooping the holy poop out of the AFC West.
I really like DJ
if he could work with Haley some, like Bowe did, DJ will have 7 picks this season! He dropped so many last year. Also yah yah I know if a LB could catch he would be a TE.
by MidMo Chiefs Fan on Aug 1, 2011 8:21 AM CDT reply actions
yeah, if DJ actually catches all the ones he "should" that go right into his chest, we may go undefeated because he would score so many times
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
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