NFL Free Agency: 49ers Prepared To Lose NT Aubrayo Franklin
by Joel Thorman on Jul 27, 2011 9:40 AM CDT
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PrintWith the news that the Kansas City Chiefs have lost NT Ron Edwards to the Carolina Panthers in free agency we now have the biggest question mark on the roster.
What to do about nose tackle?
Every year in free agency, there's one player who Chiefs fans seem to get attached to and this year that player is San Francisco 49ers NT Aubrayo Franklin. He's 31 years old and could command a decent chunk of change on the open market after playing under the franchise tag in San Fran last year.
According to Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area, the 49ers are prepared to lose Franklin.
But lose him to which team?
That's the question right now. With the Edwards news, you gotta think he at least has the Chiefs attention. He also probably has the attention of a number of other teams which might make him expensive. GM Scott Pioli has said Clark Hunt has never said no to him in free agency so I'm now very curious to where Franklin stands on the wish list.
Tick-tock, tick-tock...
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Pull the trigger B
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Jul 27, 2011 9:43 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Things are different w/ the salary floor
Pioli is going to have to adjust his strategy as the CBA has changed.
^^ this ^^
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Jul 27, 2011 9:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's what I'm thinking
they don’t need to have the minimum met by the start of the season, and they can reward in-house guys with extensions or restructure them mid-season to meet the floor.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
I don't either.
We have been way below the floor, maybe even in the basement.
If he doesn't spend the money on talent it will end up...
going to the likes of McGraw and Kevin effing Curtis. Might as well spend it on players who will contribute.
You can't live that American dream on foot, bro. Aint nobody riding horses no more.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 27, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't disagree but
As we saw before the lockout was up, Many big money guys turn out to be bust.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jul 27, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
And many guys on our roster are busts
If they don’t get to the floor the money goes to the guys currently on the roster. Who do you want getting paid, Jackie Battle or Aubrayo Franklin?
You can't live that American dream on foot, bro. Aint nobody riding horses no more.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 27, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
No Matt Roth?
Scott Pioli for President in 2012. Experience? If the current President doesn't need it, why does Pioli? Besides, Pioli has the blue collar work ethic with a white collar brain. He has humility. He is tough on security. He supports war on Sundays. And he makes sound, fiscally conservative decisions.
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 27, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Franklin > Gilberry
You can't live that American dream on foot, bro. Aint nobody riding horses no more.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 27, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Can't argue with the rest though
Sign Breaston and Franklin then ignore the rest of FA and focus on our guys. Enough money to go around for that.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
by MNchiefsfan on Jul 27, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Who do I want getting paid? Donald Washington.
Or maybe my boy, Daryl Harris (don’t sleep on OLE MISS)
Since you asked and all ;)
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Jul 27, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
They can get to the cash floor by just resigning Tamba.
by Crown Chief on Jul 27, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Not unless it's the worst contract in the history of sports.
The salary floor is a yearly thing. You can’t just look at the total of one contract.
The floor is actual cash spent. So if he gets a 22 million dollar signing bonus, plus his base salary of 10 million or whatever it is, then that would go a long way.
by Crown Chief on Jul 27, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't either
not like we can’t fill out the cap just by signing all of our good young talent
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
I'd rather resign in house talent to meet the floor
If Pioli goes in this direction, however, I will support it whole heartedly!!!!
OU SUCKS!!!!!!
by TexasFight83 on Jul 27, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
What's the penalty if we don't reach the floor?
And would it be worth taking that hit to make sure that you have enough in the bank to re-sign your own free agents the next year? Or enough to sign some other team’s free agent next year?
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
The penalty is probably they have to pay the difference out to the current roster
…at least I think that’s how it worked under the old cap/floor system. Basically you are spending X amount of money whether you have the contracts to get there or not.
by CapsLockKey on Jul 27, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
So just a one-year penalty.
And not really a penalty, just paying exactly the least you have to in any case.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Pretty much everything
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
by KC_Satchmo on Jul 27, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see how we can't try to sign him now
The loss of Edwards leaves Powe and Smith part-time? Not gonna get it done. Get the beef
Thanks for the inspiration, Bajah!
When some kid says that a modern day player is their "hero", tell them about Joe, and what a real hero is.
by RememberDelaney37 on Jul 27, 2011 9:45 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah
I don’t think there’s anything to worry about regarding getting one big name free agent. I think we can still do that and resign all of our young talent.
Chris Hoke with PIT is more of a Pioli move than Franklin.
Not that I wouldn’t love AF in red and gold, but I just don’t see it.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
Him or Pat Williams from Minnesota.
We need one of them for sure
It is what it is and we are who we are.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
Not all those who wander are lost. /////// I dont mind stealing bread.
I honestly don't think Franklin is going to demand ludicrous money
He’ll get a nice deal but it’s not not like he’s an all-pro/pro-bowler and he’s no spring chicken.
X
It is what it is and we are who we are.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
Not all those who wander are lost. /////// I dont mind stealing bread.
by nateforchiefs on Jul 27, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Give me dat beef
You can't live that American dream on foot, bro. Aint nobody riding horses no more.
I think Pioli would sign him
if we can get him at a 3 yr deal for 8-9million. My guess is that Aubrayo wants a long term deal. And I dont see Pioli moving from his position.
Kansas City Chiefs 2011 Offseason
Draft - OLB, C, NT, WR, RT, RB
Resign - Hali, Carr, S. Smith, Gilberry, Richardson, Edwards
Sign - Mid-tier WR and FS
Pay - Flowers
dude, that's what Carlonia just paid for Big Ron
Franklin is going to demand waaaaaaaay more than that
OU SUCKS!!!!!!
by TexasFight83 on Jul 27, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Is that official?
I havent seen the dollar amount for Big Ron.
Kansas City Chiefs 2011 Offseason
Draft - OLB, C, NT, WR, RT, RB
Resign - Hali, Carr, S. Smith, Gilberry, Richardson, Edwards
Sign - Mid-tier WR and FS
Pay - Flowers
Joel just posted the update on the front page under the " Chiefs loose Ron Edwards" story
OU SUCKS!!!!!!
by TexasFight83 on Jul 27, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
I knew salaries were gonna be inflated but… I mean I think Big Ron is a good player, but 8mil/season good? In that case, Franklin is probably looking at 12mil/year minimum, and I just dont see Pioli paying him that much money.
Kansas City Chiefs 2011 Offseason
Draft - OLB, C, NT, WR, RT, RB
Resign - Hali, Carr, S. Smith, Gilberry, Richardson, Edwards
Sign - Mid-tier WR and FS
Pay - Flowers
I believe the deal
is 3 years 8.25 million.. thats not 8 million a year. Will probably have some guarentee money attached.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jul 27, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
These salaries are all over the place.
I wasnt sure if people were talking deals in total dollars or dollar/year.
Kansas City Chiefs 2011 Offseason
Draft - OLB, C, NT, WR, RT, RB
Resign - Hali, Carr, S. Smith, Gilberry, Richardson, Edwards
Sign - Mid-tier WR and FS
Pay - Flowers
Speaking of...
ESPN is reporting Santonio Holmes is getting roughly 5yrs 50 million.
Kansas City Chiefs 2011 Offseason
Draft - OLB, C, NT, WR, RT, RB
Resign - Hali, Carr, S. Smith, Gilberry, Richardson, Edwards
Sign - Mid-tier WR and FS
Pay - Flowers
Edwards deal was reported at 8-9 mil total, not per year
Thanks for the inspiration, Bajah!
When some kid says that a modern day player is their "hero", tell them about Joe, and what a real hero is.
by RememberDelaney37 on Jul 27, 2011 10:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Carolina's coach was the D coordinator in Dago so he knows Ron's value. He
will be missed in KC. Signing Smith and another big body is a need now.
I think
Franklin would take the same type of deal for that money if it were 1 to two years longer.. Say 12 million over 4 years..
by Bigcherokeechief on Jul 27, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
My Guess
is that Edwards was too much money vrs production.
I wonder if it will be Franklin
by Bigcherokeechief on Jul 27, 2011 9:48 AM CDT reply actions
Is Franklin really worth the hype?
I haven’t had a chance to really study up on him…..
Is glad Vrabel came through here to teach these guys how to be a team..........now it's time to get this season crackin already!
He's a good 34 anchor
He’s no savior, but a major upgrade for us
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
good solid run-stuffing 3-4 NT
Not a perennial pro-bowler, but will be a solid anchor until Powe develops.
and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!
by reedeasy on Jul 27, 2011 9:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He is underrated.
If he played in Baltimore or Pitt he would be a household name. He is one of the better run stuffing NT in the NFL. The 49ers thought enough of him to franchise tag him. He would make this defense a lot better on 1st and 2nd down.
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by saskwatch on Jul 27, 2011 10:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well he actually did play in Baltimore
Patrick Willis plays for the 49ers, he’s a household name.
by CapsLockKey on Jul 27, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
does anyone remember
what kind of deal new orleans gave rogers? just curious
by kriscrossley1977 on Jul 27, 2011 9:59 AM CDT reply actions
It was a one year deal for like 4 million.
by Crown Chief on Jul 27, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
"I really just don't see this as a Pioli move".
Same EXACT thing I heard about drafting Eric Berry
by masonsixer on Jul 27, 2011 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I wanna say 2 yrs 8mil
Kansas City Chiefs 2011 Offseason
Draft - OLB, C, NT, WR, RT, RB
Resign - Hali, Carr, S. Smith, Gilberry, Richardson, Edwards
Sign - Mid-tier WR and FS
Pay - Flowers
"I really just don't see this as a Pioli move."
“Same EXACT thing I heard about drafting Eric Berry”
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Not to mention Jonathan Baldwin and Justin Houston.
by supersoccersteven on Jul 27, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly my point
Pioli will surprise
by Theblind Tiger on Jul 27, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
gotta say
I’m surprised. They have to make a move, unless they have way more faith in Powe than I thought. Not saying it has to be Franklin, but they did wait til the 6th to get Powe. What does that say? I’m guessing that there are question marks as much as I liked the pick. This just got real interesting
abrayo franklin to sign with the chiefs!
“its reported A. Franklin signs 3 year deal with the Chiefs estimated at a total value of 14 million” – Abraham Lincoln
by chiefsfan83 on Jul 27, 2011 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
that's his fake twitter though
Be sure you put your feet in the right place, then stand firm.
-Abraham Lincoln
by BJ Kissel on Jul 27, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Been told Matt Hasselbeck’s deal with the #Titans is for three years.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jul 27, 2011 10:12 AM CDT reply actions
The Chiefs must have something planned. Edwards left for a reason, and I am sure if Edwards did not fit into the Chiefs plans, they let him know so he could pursue what Carolina offered him, We shall see what the plan is.
Especially with the news that Pioli was working on McGraw and smith next.....
If Edwards was in the plan, you’d think he’d be before McGraw at least….
Scott Pioli for President in 2012. Experience? If the current President doesn't need it, why does Pioli? Besides, Pioli has the blue collar work ethic with a white collar brain. He has humility. He is tough on security. He supports war on Sundays. And he makes sound, fiscally conservative decisions.
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 27, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Edwards left for a reason.
$$$$$$$$
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by saskwatch on Jul 27, 2011 10:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That and KC didn't try to re-sign him...
From the sound of it, KC didn’t put up much of a fight in retaining Edwards. We want to re-sign Shaun Smith and get another NT.
Almost have to.
Edwards is gone, Powe is a rookie, need to spend the cash.
I don’t get all the “Spend all the money on the current roster” talk. The current roster simply isn’t good enough to win a Superbowl. We won 4 games 1 season ago, and played a rediculously easy schedule last year en route to a home playoff embarassment. Yes the current playes will get better, but so will all teams.
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Jul 27, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
No, all teams don't get better every year.
Only ones that are well managed and coached, and have relatively young rosters.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Have to agree
The roster isn’t bad but it isn’t filled with a lot of great players. Good players but not great players. Whatever happens, I’m sure it will be a surprise…it’s Pioli’s MO, until the prognosticators start pontificating and trying to tell everyone that “this is a pure Scott Pioli move…”
Just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys.
The potential for greatness is already on the roster...
Charles may be the best RB in the league, Bowe lead the league in TDs last year and had a 7 game stretch only matched by Jerry Rice, Tamba was the AFC sack leader, and studies by pro football focus show that flowers and Carr were a top 5 CB duo last year. Not to mention Berry will probably be he best safety in the NFL in a couple of years giving the Chiefs the only elite safety in the league unless someone else emerges. And I could easily see a lot of the young talent as potential pro bowlers like Moeaki, Baldwin, Asamoah, Hudson, and maybe even T-Jax if he figures things out.
by Crown Chief on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Still have cox at FB, THomas AARP Jones at RB, and some weak LBs. Not to mention no NT.
Besides, that same Bowe was completely shut down in some games….
Scott Pioli for President in 2012. Experience? If the current President doesn't need it, why does Pioli? Besides, Pioli has the blue collar work ethic with a white collar brain. He has humility. He is tough on security. He supports war on Sundays. And he makes sound, fiscally conservative decisions.
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he was shut down because the next best option on our team was a rookie TE. I’m just saying I don’t think this team is that far away and I don’t see the need to bring in “great players” because I think we have that foundation already. Franklin scares me, his 2010 season wasn’t as good as his 2009 in my opinion and I think he is going to regress as time goes by, especially after he will have no more incentive to perform except or winning and pride, which doesn’t do it for a lot of these guys.
by Crown Chief on Jul 27, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
You win by having more talent than other teams....
That includes having better depth.
A decent portion of last year’s team should have been 2nd teamers at best on a playoff/championship roster. We have to keep adding talent in order to get better AND add depth. It generally takes DL, especially NT 3 years to develop. This is a playoff team with a glaring need at NT. A vet has to be picked up.
Baldwin isn’t going to come in looking like Randy moss. That’s why we need another receiver. To stop Bowe and Moeaki from getting blanketed.
Scott Pioli for President in 2012. Experience? If the current President doesn't need it, why does Pioli? Besides, Pioli has the blue collar work ethic with a white collar brain. He has humility. He is tough on security. He supports war on Sundays. And he makes sound, fiscally conservative decisions.
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 27, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with WR. I’m all for Breaston, but he isn’t going to break the bank like Franklin will. I guess it all depends on how much Franklin wants. If we don’t sign Franklin I’m OK with Smith as the stop gap until Powe or someone else can fill the role.
But smith is a DE first.
It doesnt have to be Franklin, though he is the run stopper we need. I could see Pat Williams getting a Thomas jones esque deal. Or even Gregg for a few years.
Franklin for four years strengthens this team and improves the linebackers. Who else can your say that for? Frontload the deal, and by season four Powe is ready to start (hopefully) and you can phase Franklin out.
Unless he wants or gets offered Haynesworth $$$, he is almost a must have.
Scott Pioli for President in 2012. Experience? If the current President doesn't need it, why does Pioli? Besides, Pioli has the blue collar work ethic with a white collar brain. He has humility. He is tough on security. He supports war on Sundays. And he makes sound, fiscally conservative decisions.
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 27, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
We don't have to sign Franklin
But we gotta get SOMEBODY. Williams, Gregg… Somebody.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
by MNchiefsfan on Jul 27, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
What s jamorass Russell doing these days besides doing shots of purple drink and tiger blood and getting high on charlie sheen?
Scott Pioli for President in 2012. Experience? If the current President doesn't need it, why does Pioli? Besides, Pioli has the blue collar work ethic with a white collar brain. He has humility. He is tough on security. He supports war on Sundays. And he makes sound, fiscally conservative decisions.
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 27, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Franklin is the perfect choice
Hes the perfect age for our situation at NT. He is easily a top 5 NT in this league. We are the only 34 team i can think of without a legitimate NT. He couldnt go anywhere else
Now that is some serious junk in the trunk...
don’t ask why i noticed that…
todd haley: "when you have a year jim like I had you learn how to talk so you get less questions..."
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