Its time to get our Big Sal!
Dan Saleaumua came out of Arizona State as a defensive end and tackle. He was drafted in the 7th round with the 175th of the 1987 draft by the Detroit Lions and played there for two years. For the Detroit Lions he recorded four sacks over this time as a nose tackle. Detroit had doubled down on nose tackles that year and had decided to go with Jerry Ball as the starting nose tackle, releasing Dan Saleaumua from the team. The Chiefs ended up bringing Big Sal onto the team in 1989 (the same year Derrick Thomas was drafted). So could Jerrell Powe be our Big Sal?
So the third year is supposed to be the big jump for defensive tackles. In Big Sal's third year he started 8 games for the Kansas City Chiefs. Yet he was also in and out of plays with former rookie of the year, and two time pro bowler Bill Maas for all 16 games. Bill Maas started 10 games this year, and I believe that this was the year that they had switched to the 3-4 defense in the middle of the season (hence the weird math). Bill Maas continued to mentor Big Sal for 3 more seasons. Over Big Sal's career with the Chiefs he had a nose for the ball, and was consistently a disrupting force while on the field. As a result Big Sal did get a Pro Bowl nod in 1995, and still has the fumble recovery record standing at 18 recovered fumbles.
During his career, Big Sal stood at 6 foot 315 pounds... Jerrell Powe coming out of the University of Mississippi stands at 6 foot 2 inches and 335 pounds. Both eras of football dictate that these were pretty decent measurable for an ideal nose tackle. Jerrell Powe was picked with the 199th pick in the 6th round. This essentially would have been a late round 8th round pick in the 1987 draft. Coming out of college there are a few similarities that out there, but is there a mentor for Powe in the middle of our defensive line.
On top of having Bill Maas as a mentor, Big Sal had Bill Cowher as a Defensive Coordinator. A young feisty defensive coordinator at the time, that became a future Super Bowl winning coach. He was a pretty solid a mentor... if I don't say so myself. Jerrell Powe has Romeo Crennel as a defensive coordinator. Romeo Crennel has participated in winning 5 of 6 Super Bowls, 3 of which were while he was a defensive coordinator for the New England Patriots. That is a pretty nice mentor of a coach. Yet who is to help Powe get the on field mentoring like Maas did for Big Sal?
Jerrell Powe came out of the University of Mississippi with 3 years of experience. Education requirements of the NCAA delayed his entrance into University of Mississippi as he got himself up to speed for his education in college. Standing at 6 foot 2 and weighing 335 pounds he of ideal build for a nose tackle. The last two years he was a full time starter at the University of Mississippi. In 2009, his junior year he was considered one of the top nose tackles playing in college football. Powe emerged as a star, earning second-team All-SEC accolades after posting 34 tackles, 12 tackles for loss and three sacks. Getting double teamed his senior year his stats were lackluster, and as a result his stock dropped dramatically in the NFL draft. Powe has the talent and size to become an elite force at nose tackle, but needs guidance in order to reach his full potential.
The three Chiefs that have been associated with the Chiefs over the past year are Ron Edwards, Shaun Smith, and Anthony Torbio. Torbio can be crossed off the list as he wasn't much of a presence on the field last year. Shaun Smith could be considered here, but he seems more of a fill in the line type of guy that gets in there for the nitty gritty action. Ron Edwards on the other hand appears to step up his game each year claiming his starting spot each year.
Ron Edwards appears to be someone in house that could be that mentor for Powe. Ron Edwards started his career with the Buffalo Bills under Gregg Williams and finished with Mike Mularkey. Neither of these coaches has been considered elite. Ron Edwards does have a year of experience under Romeo Crennel. This could prove to be essential to help Powe get up to speed with our play book. I wouldn't consider Edwards someone of the caliber of Maas to pass on a torch of dominate defensive line play.
Since it takes approximately 3 or so years for a player to get accustomed to the NFL let's take a look at free agents. Shaun Rogers was on the top of our list during the short period of free agency. Unfortunately we did not land Rodgers as he believes New Orleans has a better shot at a Super Bowl (lets prove him wrong). Ngata, and Soliai both have been franchised by their respective teams. I'd say that the price to get these guys is off the table for Mr. Pioli. Barry Cofield, Brandon Membane, Cullen Jenkins, Aubrayo Franklin, and Marcus Spears are all potential high end defensive tackle free agents. Barry Cofield and Cullen Jenkins both appear to be more geared towards a 4-3 defense than our 3-4. Marcus Spears at the same time could be considered too tall, and he seems more like a Shaun Smith type of player, which would not necessarily be a bad thing for our line.
So the top three possible young NT options that are free agents are Brandon Membane, Aubrayo Franklin, and Marcus Spears. Aubrayo appears to be the favorite on this list, and there has been talk of Brandon Membane. Since these guys have already been spoken about many times over I'll add a little bit about Marcus Spears.
In 2005, Marcus Spears was drafted with the 20th pick in the draft by the Dallas Cowboys. This 2005 team was coached by Bill Parcells, so he does have a background check in the Pioli connection. Marcus Spears has had knee problems over his career, but once the season was ready he had stepped up to the line battling the opposition. Bill Parcells, and Wade Phillips coached him at the LDE position. It is known that these coaches like a hefty line, and weighing in at 315, and a height of 6 foot 4 he has an ideal build for their system. At 6 foot 4 he is one inch taller than Ron Edwards, yet I believe he would an upgrade. Yet Edwards might again have something to say about that. If we aren't able to resign Shaun Smith, then Spears could be someone to help add competition to our defensive line.
So if Jerrell Powe is our Big Sal of the future we have a couple pieces of the puzzle together. Romeo Crennel and Anthony Pleasant are a pretty solid coaching group for this young defensive player. They should be able to coach his play up to the NFL. Powe appears to be a tactile learner that needs visual and physical ques to learn. I believe we would be best off if he learned Aubrayo Franklin's technique, and Ron Edward's heart that they both contribute to be starting NFL caliber NT's. This mentorship is one of the essential pieces of the puzzle in finding our Big Sal.
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Ma'ake Kemoeatu
It looks like he’s going to be released by Washington.
6’5 – 364 lbs
He’s a huge body that can eat up blockers. He’s past his prime and playing behind Albert Haynesworth which is why he’s being released. He’ll be a cheap option for us that can be signed to a one or two year deal while helping Powe develop.
I love Big Ron. He’s been extremely faithful to the Chiefs, but the simple truth is that he doesn’t have the size or breakthrough ability to eat up blockers. I’d like to see him kept on for 4 man front situations and to continue to lead our young team.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jul 17, 2011 2:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I would not complain one bit if we were able to land Ma'ake
I’d say that he at least has 2 years left in his tank, and would help mentor Jerrell Powe. I’m also expecting us to grab another DT/NT in the 2012 draft.
It is going to be interesting to see whom drops off of teams once we get free agency started. Many of the free agents I believe will end up staying with their respective 2010 teams. Guys like Ma’ake that are released as free agents are being signed are players that we will probably be targeting.
Great point, and I didn’t take the time to research people like Ma’ake.
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Go Chiefs!!!!
re-signing Edwards make more sense than signing this guy
370 snaps last year vs Edwards 500+
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 17, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not a great arguement for Edwards.
A good argument for Edwards being re-signed is that he knows the system, and that he plays his heart out while he is out there on the field. Edwards continues to beat out the competition…
While I agree that the Ron Edwards re-signing is more important. Saying that Ma’ake having less snaps just tells me that he has less wear and tear from last season. Even mentioning that he had an achielles injury the season before, and could slow him down for years to come is a better arguement. 317 snaps is quite a few snaps as a “secondary NT”. So playing second fiddle for the Redskins he was considered a useful tool to their defense behind Albert Haynseworth. One thing that can be said is that he is a major upgrade to Anthony Torbio.
Anyways I would rather discuss things like so and so might get released… and be an improvement to our team.
Go Chiefs!!!!
He's billed as being the ideal block eater.
He’s big, strong, physical, and uses good leverage. No, he won’t ever lead the team in tackles or sacks. He’s not going to be the ball magnet that Big Dan was, but he’s going to cause problems for centers and guards which means Dorsey and Jackson (or whoever) are going to get more single block opportunities.
If we kept Ron on for 4-3 situations, you wouldn’t hear a single complaint from me. He can generate some pressure from that spot, but he’s not going to command double teams the way Kemoeatu will.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jul 17, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay
both are 31 at the very best it is a lateral move to a less proven player
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 17, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say that.
He played pretty well in Carolina. He played the 4-3 NT role there and did a great job of eating blockers for the Panthers pass rush.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jul 17, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't that mean that Fox is going to go after him in Denver?
…Just wondering because it seems like Denver has a young team and no DT’s that can help them in their new 4-3 scheme. From what it sounds like, Ma’ake sounds like an ideal space eater that can take the double-teams for our front 3 and show Powe what he will need to do and work on to do the same thing in the NFL.
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I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if John Fox went after him.
Along with Matt Moore and De’Angelo Williams.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jul 17, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
that makes no sense ... first off, Haynesworth could well be released ... secondly, even he stays Haynesworth isn't as good as Ron Edwards (going by last year's play, at least)
He’s past his prime and playing behind Albert Haynesworth which is why he’s being released
keep Edwards and rotate Powe in here and there, he’ll be fine … I’m more concerned about Bailey than Powe … Nose Tackle isn’t Rocket Science … you can’t teach “big” (and fortunately with Powe and Bailey they don’t have to)
why pick up thos past his prime guy? we have Edwards already who at least knows the scheme, the system, the coaches and the expectations … and that’s plenty
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Because Darren Sproles and Knowshon Moreno ran right past Ron Edwards like he wasn't even there.
You said it yourself: “You can’t teach ‘big’”. That means it is something that Edwards will simply never have. Edwards is fine when we go to a 4-man front, but he has never and will never be a 3-4 NT. He’s played that position for us simply because he’s been the best option we’ve had available. That doesn’t mean he’s been fine.
The difference in cost will be negligible and we’ll be adding a guy with real beef for Powe to learn from. There’s not even a reason to drop Edwards. Shaun Smith could very well be gone. He might be a fan favorite, but his absence wouldn’t be that noticeable in terms of in-game presence. Or Toribio and Gales could be gone. Would we miss either of them? I don’t think so.
And when you talk about adding guys past their prime: Thomas Jones, Mike Vrabel, Zach Thomas, Mike Brown, Ty Law, Pat Surtain, Chris Chambers, Sammy Knight, Marcus Allen, Joe Montanna…and those are just the notable ones off the top of my head. Some work out and some don’t.
And there has been plenty of people clamoring for Randy Moss, Plaxico Burress, Aubreyu Franklin, and Matt Light.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jul 19, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
And it's more important this year because of the up-the-gut rushers we face:
Darren McFadden x2
Adrian Peterson
Matt Forte
Benjarvis Green-Ellis
Shonne Green
Ronnie Brown
Ryan Matthews x2
Knowshon Moreno x2 (Don’t laugh, his only 100 yard performance comes against KC)
Rashard Mendenhall
That’s going to be a huge strain on the middle of our defense.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jul 19, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Do we even know where Ronnie Brown is gonna play yet
For all we know he could be a Chief
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jul 19, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
No, but situations like that generally tend to favor the current team.
They need to give Henne all the help hey can as well as bring along Daniel Thomas. Ronnie Brown provides the best answer in either case. They’ll shell out the bucks to bring him back for 1 or 2 more years (my guess is a 3 year deal and then try to trade him when Thomas is ready).
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jul 19, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
What I am wondering is how the Chiefs neutralized Franklin in the game we played against him?
Franklin had great days against Seattle, New Orleans, Oakland, and Seattle.
Edwards had great days against SD, Buffalo, Oakland, and Seattle
of course Edwards had a few more down days than Franklin, but Edwards did not have Justin Smith, Willis, and Spikes behind him either. Franklin’s worst days were against KC, Carolina, Green Bay, and St. Louis.
How do you know he had a bad day against KC?
Did you find a grade on these games, or just use yards rushing? Did the Chiefs move the ball effectively up the middle? I think Franklin over the past 3 years has been one of the most underrated players in the league. His name is now well known because he will get a bug check from someone, and I really hope it is from Pioli
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by saskwatch on Jul 17, 2011 4:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I paid for the data
Franklin’s two worst games last year Chiefs and Packers
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 17, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Rewatch the 9er game?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 17, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The Chiefs rush fro 95 yards on 18 carries between the tackles
5.27 yards per carry right at Abrayo
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 17, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Green Bay 23 att for 85 yards
3.73 yards per right up the middle
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 17, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Then I don't know what to tell you
Unless you rewatch the game you won’t know what we did to neutralize him.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 17, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Brian Waters and Ryan Lilja had superb game that day
Weigman was also a positive
The Other game they as a unit played that well was at Seattle
both were blowout wins for KC
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 17, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Im rewatching the game now
Still the 1st quarter, but Wiegmann is standing out as the main culprit to why Franklin had a bad game. He’s either standing him up or using his wily vet knowledge to take him out of the play.
Waters blocked him out well on one play, Albert did as well.
Plenty of double teaming.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 17, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn 23 yard play
But Wiegmann got a holding call on Franklin because threw his ass onto the ground lol.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 17, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
This article by Porkchop is required reading for anyone discussing Aubrayo Franklin
It is absolutely fantastic.
READ IT, IT WILL MAKE YOUR BRAIN GROW!!!
This was a great read in its own right, thank you for writing it!! Rec Ravs!
meh...
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by Chief-blinders-on on Jul 17, 2011 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
big sal
big sal was a great player back in the montana days, the funniest think about big sal was that he was driving a cement truck in arizona when the chiefs came calling.

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