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Will Chiefs Records Be Broken?

From the FanPosts -Joel

This lockout has been driving us crazy!

No really, it has. It’s been driving me and you both crazy. You may think you feel fine, but you’re not. I’m telling you, whether you notice it or not, this lockout has been driving you crazy.

It has probably been making you do things you normally don’t do. I’ll offer up my brother, Nick (username KcChiefsMo here on AP), as a prime example. In fact, he’s actually the inspiration behind this post.

Lately, he’s been a little… bored. It’s no secret. Usually around this time of the year, Nick and I are in full football mode. The Royals, like every year, are pretty much done for the season, so we have nothing else really to look forward to. I, personally, still have plenty of soccer to watch being a huge fan of Sporting Kansas City (the Wizards to those who still aren’t familiar with the name change).

Nick on the other hand is not a soccer fan by any means, so right now he’s pretty much a lost soul. Lately I’ve seen him constantly watch TV shows like One Tree Hill and The Bachelorette. Of course, the decision to watch these shows is influenced by the wife, but he doesn’t even put up a fight anymore.

About a month ago I went over to Nick’s house, and he was watching the National Spelling Bee. And not the half-assed kind of watching either, where he lays on the couch half asleep and glances over every now and then. Nope, his attention was in full, one hundred percent viewing mode on this.

And lately, the media is doing a tremendous job of teasing us right now, with numerous reports of a deal “cutting close” and being “within weeks” of wrapping up.

So the past week Nick has been looking up random statistics in anticipation of the season. He has been on a kick of determining just how many yards Jamaal Charles needs to reach Priest Holmes as the all-time leading rusher, or how many touchdowns Dwayne Bowe will need to reach Tony Gonzalez’s touchdown record. So today I told Nick that I would make a post to keep him entertained. Hopefully, Nick, this post will hold you over until the lockout ends.

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So, let us begin with Jamaal Charles. As of now, Jamaal has 2,944 rushing yards with the Kansas City Chiefs. This puts him at ninth place among KC rushing leaders, behind Priest Holmes (6070), Larry Johnson (6015), Christian Okoye (4897), Ed Podolak (4451), Abner Haynes (3814), Marcus Allen (3698), Mike Garrett (3246), and Curtis McClinton (3124). That puts Jamaal 3,126 rushing yards behind Priest Holmes. If Charles wants to reach Priest, there are several ways he can do it.

1) In the next four seasons, if Jamaal can rush for 781.5 yards per season, he will reach Priest as the all-time leading rusher for the Chiefs.

2) In the next three seasons, Jamaal needs 1,042 rushing yards per season to reach Priest.

3) In the next two seasons, Jamaal would need 1,563 rushing yards per season.

In my opinion, numbers 1 and 2 seem highly probable the way Jamaal has been for us the past two seasons. Number 3 is still very likely to happen, but it depends if Todd Haley decides to limit Jamaal’s carries like he did in 2010. If Jamaal can stay healthy though, he will be our feature back for years to come and inevitably will reach Priest Holmes as KC’s all-time leading rusher.

Touchdowns, though, seem highly unlikely. Jamaal Charles has only 12 career rushing touchdowns opposed to Priest’s 76 with the Chiefs.  To get 64 more touchdowns, Jamaal would need 10-11 touchdowns per season in six seasons with the Chiefs. As long as Jamaal is sharing a large amount of carries with another back, I’m not sure if I can see this happening.

Let’s move on to Dwayne Bowe. D-Bowe has a total of 3,768 receiving yards for the Chiefs. This puts him at eighth place, behind Tony Gonzalez (10,940), Otis Taylor (7306), Henry Marshall (6545), Carlos Carson (6360), Stephone Paige (6341), Chris Burford (5505), and Eddie Kennison (5230).

To reach Tony G, Bowe has a long way to go to reach him, needing 7,172 receiving yards. For Dwayne to reach Tony, it comes down to how long he will remain in Kansas City. Some believe that Jonathon Baldwin was drafted to replace D Bowe once he becomes a free agent; however, I believe that to be untrue because we’d pretty much be in the same spot that we were before drafting Baldwin.

With that being said, let’s say D Bowe does stay with us. To reach Tony he’ll need to get 1,196 receiving yards each season for the next six seasons. With his breakout performance this past season (1,162 yards), this seems likely for maybe the next few seasons, but the judge is out there whether he can continue to be a Pro-Bowl caliber player for many years to come.

I’m not sure if I see Dwayne reaching Tony G’s receiving record, but I do think he can reach second place, surpassing Otis Taylor, if he remains in KC. D Bowe needs 3,538 more yards to reach Otis Taylor, which averages to be 884.5 yards per season for four seasons, or 707.6 yards per season for five seasons.

However, maybe Dwayne Bowe can reach Tony G’s receiving touchdown record of 76 touchdowns. Bowe has 31 receiving touchdowns, so to get 45 more touchdowns to reach Tony’s record, Bowe will need 11-12 TD’s per season for four seasons, 9 TD’s per season for five seasons, or 7-8 TD’s per season for six seasons. After 2010, if Bowe stays in KC, this feat seems a little more plausible.

While this post took some simple math and just a little bit of research on pro-football-reference.com, it definitely gets you thinking about the future of some of our best players here in Kansas City. This post also shows you just how bored a sports fan like me can get when a lockout is still in progress.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Who won the National Spelling Bee?

I’m leaning towards feeling neither will happen. Runningbacks don’t last very long in this league and Bowe will be traded once he peaks out.

JC has a great chance to do it. Another great rushing season and he’ll get close, no question there.

Good post! Tell your brother all the waiting will just make him a better fan and man in the long run. :)

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Jul 11, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Front paged!!! Nice work Wez!

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Jul 11, 2011 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd agree with that assesment.

Charles – yardage yes, touchdowns no.
Bowe – yardage no, touchdowns, yes.

by MtHammer on Jul 11, 2011 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

nice work and grats on your front pagedness :-)

can’t see anyone touching Priest’s TD numbers … or TonyG’s for that matter … not for a long, long time

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jul 11, 2011 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Great work brother.

I am the older brother Nick and all that Wes wrote is true! I do believe if Charles stays healthy he will break the rushing yardage record, but it’s just such a toss up with RB’s his size. As for D Bowe, the jury is still out if he can preform like he did this past season every season.

by KcChiefsMo on Jul 11, 2011 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks bud!

I feel like Charles will break Priest’s record eventually though. I know its hard for RB’s to stay healthy but I think thats why Todd Haley uses multiple backs. I feel pretty safe with Charles knowing that Haley is looking over and using his best judgement possible to always keep Jamaal fresh.

by WezKC on Jul 11, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kc ... HE did all the work, here ... YOU go back to watching "housewives" or whatever ;-)

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jul 11, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha! Nice.

Nick actually did do some work though. He was the one that started talking about all these random stats. I pretty much just organized it, did a little more research and math, and wrote this up.

by WezKC on Jul 11, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Jamaal keeps producing and doesn't break down in the next year or two

I’m pretty sure he can break Priest’s yardage total. The TD total is a little more monstrous, and unless Jamaal starts getting a lot more breakaways for TDs it’s really tough to see that happening.

I can totally see D-Bowe breaking Tony G’s TD numbers though. I remember a TD from Bowe’s rookie season that looked like it was headed for Tony falling down in the back of the endzone, until Bowe leaps in front of it and snags it. Ha! It looked like he stole it. A precursor for what’s to come perhaps?

by bamachief5558 on Jul 11, 2011 1:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You mean...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y3CnwEZ6iY <———- this? haha.

I remember that catch. It could be a sign of things to come. As long as D Bowe can continue to dominate like he did last season, he can get close to Tony G’s TD record.

by WezKC on Jul 11, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tamba Hali is about to sneak into the top 5 all time sacks in KC

He is at 41.5 and he needs to surpass Eric Hicks at 44.5. By the time it is all said and done I see him in the top 3 if not 2 in Chiefs history. That would have him sitting with DT and Neil Smith.

by tomahawk44 on Jul 11, 2011 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah I noticed that while doing my research.

I was thinking about posting up a Part II, addressing more players including Tamba. Obviously Tamba probably won’t get close to DT’s sack total, but he might be able to reach Neil if he stays with us long enough.

by WezKC on Jul 11, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Tamba can't get there...

That horrible 2008 season really set him back, but he’ll likely have a longer career than DT did and is finally in a system that fits his specific strength. If he stays with us I can see him getting over a hundred without too much of a problem and maybe sniffing DT’s mark.

I’m not saying it’s likely, but it could happen…

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 11, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say it's obvious Tamba doesn't get close...

That horrible 2008 season really set him back, but he’ll likely have a longer career than DT did and is finally in a system that fits his specific strength. If he stays with us I can see him getting over a hundred without too much of a problem and maybe sniffing DT’s mark.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 11, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the front page Joel!

It means a lot to have people read and enjoy your writing and hard work.

by WezKC on Jul 11, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes It does!

Good work WezKC… wreck’d

I’d love to see part II

meh...

by Chief-blinders-on on Jul 11, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deron Cherry all-time INT leader?

something like 59 … w/o looking it up

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jul 11, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Pro football reference says...

1st – Emmit Thomas, 58
2nd – Johnny Robinson, 57
3rd – Deron Cherry, 50
37th – Brandon Flowers, 9

Flowers has a looong way to go.

by WezKC on Jul 11, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey, I was close

in the 50’s anyway :)

yah, Flowers ain’t gonna make it … that 58 is another that’s gonna stand for a long, long time

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jul 11, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Flowers will even come close.

Eric Berry, though—if he stays a Chief his entire career, he will get it.

4 interceptions last year as a rookie. Let’s say he averages six a year from now on. He will only need nine years to break it.

by Vince D on Jul 11, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 a year is a TON ... and 9 years is forever or longer for a football player

can’t see it

Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jul 11, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can absolutely see it.

In fact, that doesn’t sound out of the question at all.

Berry will probably have seasons with more than 6, meaning he wouldn’t have to get as many as 6 every season. He just has to average that.

You really don’t think Berry can have a 10 year career? That would make him 31. Look at Ed Reed, old and still out there grabbin picks, even if if he only plays part of a season.

by bamachief5558 on Jul 11, 2011 2:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know what the Chiefs record is for defensive return yardage..

.. but I can see Berry smashing that one, too. He did at Tennessee. It’s just part of his game.

by bamachief5558 on Jul 11, 2011 6:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah definitely.

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jul 13, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Colquitt, Colquitt, Colquitt

Needs some love to get him up with Jerrel Wilson as the Chiefs all-time best punter

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 11, 2011 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I would just like to say...

I am the sister-in-law and I didnt introduce him to OTH…he did that one all on his own about TWO years before the lockout started :) Nice work Wesley!!

by Laura Roesch on Jul 20, 2011 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

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