Eric Berry SS and Eric Weddle FS
There are obvious team needs like RT and NT. One thing I have learned about Scott Pioli up to this point, expect the unexpected. With Eric Weddle you get a torpeodo to team up with a laser guided missile in Eric Berry. I understand we need to resign Tamba Hali, Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Flowers, and Brandon Carr. But, I love to think about the possibilty of seeing the Eric's cause absolute havoc in 2011 - 2012. 
Free agent Eric Weddle says his agent has spoken with over 10 teams that are interested in the safety's services. Weddle has taken note of reports that the Jaguars plan to sign a safety, and he also stressed that he'd love to return to San Diego "for the right price." Another team to keep an eye on is Carolina, where Weddle's former coordinator is now running the show.
Source: FOX Sports
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by James Michael Simpson on Jun 25, 2011 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
I want to see what Lewis can do in a full season and 1 yr under his belt
He showed some good signs last season when he was healthy and on the field. Just like Berry, he will only get better this year. The defense looked faster and better when Lewis was in there.
by ChiefDailyBaked on Jun 25, 2011 12:11 PM CDT reply actions
he also had some stats taken away by penalty. a few int's etc
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
It would cost quite a bit to sign Weddle
and I think Lewis has enough potential (and looked good enough when he was on the field last year) that I’m not sure it would be worth the money.
I’d rather see us spend that money on resigning Hali, Bowe, Flowers, and Carr. And in free agency on some of those more obvious needs (like nose tackle). I realize that’s not a terribly exciting or uncommon opinion, but I stand by it.
I like Lewis' potential a bit more
However Weddle-Berry would be ridiculous and we could definitely use Weddle in our nickel packages instead of Belcher/McGraw.
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Also, totally called the Gabe Miller pick. so yeah I'm awesome.
it also comes down to spending money though. why use it there where its not a need, when we can use it to retain our own players such as our corners
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I agree
But two top 10 safeties would be domination. ;)
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jun 26, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
No Way.....Kendrick Lewis is going to be starting for a long time on this defense.
Im pretty darn sure thats how the coaching staff sees it, but hey, maybe im wrong about that.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Lewis played at a very high level for a rook
But was overshadowed by Berry being a freak. My biggest hope is that Pioli keeps our secondary together for the next half dozen years, and that includes Lewis as our FS
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
yes. I totally agree. I would love nothing more than the big 4 to stay together(5 with arenas)
Lewis…Carr are really good players who are overshadowed by great players in flowers and berry
of all the potential FA’s, Id love to see the secondary locked down long term, this is a passing league, so I totally agree
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I totally agree
i see some serious camaraderie in our secondary and i know that pioli sees it too (and digs it). i’ve felt for a while that the secondary is soon to be our defining strength (how’s that, MN? :P ) and it only makes sense to keep it together.
i just cant imagine pioli disrupting what we have going on right now. this all just makes too much sense
if rhymes were valiums, i'd be comfortably numb
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by Chris Sembower on Jun 26, 2011 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions
yep. they love to play together, you can just see it. I keep seeing articles on other websites claiming we need to spend in free agency
I dont want other people’s castoffs if that means we spend the money we would spend to keep our own
id love nothing more than 5-6 contract extensions announced right off the bat. of course that wont happen but one can dream
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
We can indeed :)
But it just makes SO MUCH SENSE to keep our own guys and offer them contracts before they hit the open market… We saw what great deals we got with DJ and JC.
The thing I see getting in the way is that at least one or two of them are likely going to want to see how much they can get in FA.
If I were a betting man, I’d bet that Carr and Flowers would be more willing to sign before hitting the market than Bowe or Hali. They’ve got the whole “came in together” thing, and I’m guessing they’re smart enough to realize what’s in front of them in that secondary (a shot to be a part of something great).
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
yeah, it makes almost too much darn sense.
Its all there…the chance to be a playoff contender for a long time…we just have to pay our own, with that salary floor we must hit…I just HAVE to believe that scott pioli and the rest of the front office thinks the same way
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I think we've trained ourselves
To be pessimistic and expect the team to NOT do what we believe makes the most sense. The JC and DJ extensions have given me some hope though.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
You're right, that secondary could end up becoming our defining trait
“Well, we’re playing the Chiefs next week, so we need to discount our #1 and #2 receivers because they’ll be locked down all day. Also, any pass across the middle is as likely to get picked as caught. And even if it’s caught, Berry’s gonna eat the WRs liver with fava beans and wash it down with a nice glass of chianti. So… we just can’t pass against these guys.”
That’d be a nice way for opposing coaches to look at us :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
"Well, we’re playing the Chiefs next week, so we need to discount our #1 and #2 receivers because they’ll be locked down all day. Also, any pass across the middle is as likely to get picked as caught. And even if it’s caught, Berry’s gonna eat the WRs liver with fava beans and wash it down with a nice glass of chianti. So… we just can’t pass against these guys."
That’d be a nice way for opposing coaches to look at us :)
Especially if he have a Top 5 run defense… =)
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 27, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
*he = we
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 27, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I could see it.
I really have high hopes for Kendrick Lewis. If Donald Washington even had an ounce of Lewis’ ball skills and anticipation he would be dominant.
Kendrick Lewis is a great player and Eric Berry is going to be the best defender in football soon.
The thing you have to remember, is that safeties get hurt often. It is never a bad idea to have a quality back up and safety is a need, it wasn’t long ago that people were clamoring for the Chiefs to draft Quinton Carter upwards of even the second round.
Eric Weddle would be a fine addition to the Chiefs, and he’d be off the Chargers. That is a positive positive.
For Safeties I also like:
Dawan Landry
Michael Huff
Donte Whitner
Tom Zbikowski
Dashon Goldson
Brandon McGowan
In about that order… I think the Chiefs will pick up another safety though. Who knows, you do have to expect the unexpected with Scott Pioli.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 4:38 PM CDT reply actions
Me me
Well no Quinton Carter for the Chiefs.
Now we get to try to beat him in Denver
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 25, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
heck I still have hope for d-wash. he was really raw coming out, and needed another year in college
I think he can be a valuable special teams guy much like langford has been, and d-wash was helpful at times in packages where we could use his leaping ability to take away a tall reciever or TE(example being the coverage on gates in the SD game)
I dont think we need another safety, but we very well may add some competition, I just dont think its someone who is like weddle demanding more than a vet min.
Langford is such a wildcard in my opinion….he has a real shot to take mcgraw’s job
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Weddle does seem unlikely though
He’s going to get paid to be a starter. Now, I could see the Chiefs going after veteran safety like Eugene Wilson. The key is like you mention: quality depth.
by theaxeeffect4721 on Jun 26, 2011 11:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No way we get Landry or Huff, price tag will be too high.
Whitner could be an option, though SS seems to be locked up and he’s going to be costly too.
Don’t really have an opinion on the other guys, Zbikowski is actually someone I would want. Cost effective and he would be a good back-up to Lewis.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jun 26, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I should add
Landry is overrated to the extreme, he’s actually pretty bad and he’s a strong safety to boot.(I mixed him up with Laron for a second thought I’d clarify)
Huff is actually a pretty good player, but he takes too many chances and again will be expensive.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jun 26, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Landry has had an up and done career
I don’t think he will be too expensive because of it, and he is extremely.
I like Zbikowski’s potential… anytime you can get players from the Ravens it isn’t a bad option for your 3-4 IMO
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 26, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd love to see us pick up Zbikowski
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by Chris Sembower on Jun 27, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
i feel like he could play that mcgraw, nickel, LB/S role for us
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by Chris Sembower on Jun 27, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
While I am not sold on Lewis, I can see
him getting another year to prove he is worthy of the position. Having a shot at a starter from a rival and contender is not a problem for me, especially if it would help our team.
surprised you aren't sold. we were better with him, and hes a ballhawking safety.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Yeah what was our record without him?
Like 1-3 or something horrible?
Better to be a Diamond with a flaw than a Pebble without - Master Kong
Also, totally called the Gabe Miller pick. so yeah I'm awesome.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jun 26, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
8-4 with him
2-3 without him
if we could eliminate the SD beating, though Lewis Forced a Fumble
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201012120sdg.htm
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 26, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, as steve said 8-4 with 2-3 without.
I think Lewis is going to be a darn good safety in this league….in fact im so confident in his play that the FS position isnt even a concern IMO
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
2 things i didn't like, slow to the sideline to make a play on the ball and not tacklin well. The
sideline issue could be rookie awareness mistakes, but getting out the way and making a lame excuse try for a tackle of the legs at the goal line is inexcusable in my book. I saw enough of lousy tackling in years past to carry a guy who won’t sacrifice his body for the team and is earning a paycheck for that deed to boot.
valid knocks
yet the FS is the last line, the goal line is probably a done deal though
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 26, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
In 2010 the Chiefs showed me some of the best tackling I have seen in Kansas City
since Gunther was the coach 10 years ago.
Kendrick Lewis had a few of those… is he the best tackler in the league?
No
However, I would take his tackling skills as a rookie over almost every safety we have had in that time span save maybe Jerome Woods. Lewis has great form.
I thank god we have Emmitt Thomas as coach, a lot of it has to be him…
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 26, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know man you seem to be looking at individual plays
Now do individual plays define the player? I saw some great tackling from Lewis, and sideline to sideline plays on the ball as well. Actually one of the things I found out from Rebels fans is that he used to be the worst tackler on the team, but by the time he graduated he was the leading tackler.
I remember that Seahawks game was horrible for him, but besides that no other bad marks on his game come to mind.
You have to remember, Lewis was injured last year, he may have played a game but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t still injured like Hali and JC as well. On top of which, going for the legs is how its taught, you didn’t clarify if it was an ankle tackle but well rookies will be rookies and he will learn the NFL game.
Better to be a Diamond with a flaw than a Pebble without - Master Kong
Also, totally called the Gabe Miller pick. so yeah I'm awesome.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jun 27, 2011 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I remember that Seahawks game was horrible for him, but besides that no other bad marks on his game come to mind.
Lewis also totally whiffed on a few in the Niners game – one on Crabtree that changed a 2 yard gain into something like a 25 yard gain. I’ll give him a year or two to work through all that (the big miss on Crabtree was just the result of not coming under control as he approached the ball carrier – I am sure he was thinking “big hit” instead of “wrap up the legs”
Every defensive back in the league should watch Brandon Flowers tackle – he’s excellent.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 27, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Lewis was injured trying to dig in his heels at the goalline against a pretty big back.
He got run over and it looked like he rolled over his ankle. Stayed in the game, even though that ankle was done. Not sure he was ever as good as the player we saw before that injury. In fact, I kinda think he wasn’t every quite the same.
would of ≠ would've
weddle is a beast. i'd love to see him here.
Berry + Weddle + Flowers + Carr = a very pissed off Phillip Rivers
Eric Berry + Brandon Flowers = a pissed off Phillip Rivers
Fivehead
Finally somebody that can see how amazing that combo would be. Plus Weddle practiced against Rivers for multiple years and knows all their plays. Eric Weddle is much better than Kendrick Lewis!
by James Michael Simpson on Jun 27, 2011 5:59 PM CDT reply actions
Well we don't know Lewis' ceiling yet
But currently yes, Weddle is better then Lewis, and taking a rival’s player would be oh so sweet.
Better to be a Diamond with a flaw than a Pebble without - Master Kong
Also, totally called the Gabe Miller pick. so yeah I'm awesome.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jun 27, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Eric Weddle
SEASON TEAM GP TOT SOLO AST SACK FF FR YDS INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD STF STF YDS KB
2007 SD 15 53 42 11 1.0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 6 1 2 0
2008 SD 16 127 105 22 1.0 0 1 0 1 3 3 3 0 5 2 5 0
2009 SD 13 82 68 14 1.5 0 0 0 2 44 22 31 1 7 5 14 0
2010 SD 16 96 80 16 0.5 0 0 0 2 64 32 41 1 10 4 12 0
Career 60 358 295 63 4.0 0 1 0 6 111 19 41 2 28 12 33 0
Kendrick Lewis
SEASON TEAM GP TOT SOLO AST SACK FF FR YDS INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD STF STF YDS KB
2010 KC 12 30 22 8 0.0 1 0 0 3 46 15 23 0 7 0 0 0
For only playing in 12 games Lewis did really well as a rookie. He caused 4 turnovers in 12 games, compared to Weddle’s 7 in 60 games.
Kendrick Lewis has a bright future, but adding another safety would never be a bad thing for depth.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 27, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see this so much as a "Let's debate Lewis" question.
I think KC has a solid team concept on D and has a bunch of guys, now, who can play safety. I can see them trying for an upgrade at corner from outside the current roster, but I really see them drafting and developing Ss in-house.
would of ≠ would've
A Champ Bailey would be nice...
that Denver game would have went a lot better with no Bailey…ha!
The Secondary needs an on field mentor (kicking McGraw to the curb… seriously, thank you for your services Jon.)
Who better than Champ Bailey…???
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 27, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Champ Bailey for Clinton Portis was a steal.
Champ Bailey now, not so much. I can see him as a safety, but I think the safety role and mini-LB mentality is the only strike against an illustrious career. You love him for sticking his nose in there, but you don’t want him to stick his nose in there quite so much. Still, they could invert their coverages and give teams some hard-to-figure pre-snap formations, with his coverage skills.
But yeah. Getting more depth in outstanding coverage DBs would do more to elevate the squad than another safety. One thing that I noticed about the secondary, starting with Flowers and Carr, under Edwards, was everybody tackles. And since Haley arrived, they all are good tacklers. Some of the complaints about Lewis in that area were either from rookie mistakes that cagey player won’t repeat, or attempts by him to write checks that bad ankle of his wasn’t letting him cash, later in the season.
With the work they did to get better pressure from their front 5, smart guys like Travis Daniels are going to be more effective in 2011, also, because they’ll quickly adjust their style to anticipate the timing of the pass. But I don’t think you can ever bring in too many good corners. And if you do, you can always trade to somebody dying for one, and there’s always somebody dyin’ for one.
Not only that, but you can play more aggressively – fewer “business decisions” by pure cover guys – because your supply of solid coverage ‘backs lets you send some somebody ’most as good, and even give your original #1 an extra week off for that shoulder stinger or broken finger/toe. Sure, those little fractures don’t heal in a week or two, but an extra week can make a huge difference in comfort level and speed up the return to 100%.
Could be that KC is looking to run as much or MORE nickel in 2011. Seems like opposing offenses STILL had an edge with the extra wides. KC was closing the gap, and Bailey addresses exactly the position they want in-depth. That’s the one thing he’s virtually guaranteed to provide, while guys like me talk all day about the OTHER things we’re hoping he can do, be it play lighter and give us a surplus on rush OLB or to play at or above 285 at 5-tech.
A surplus in DB talent very well might see them play a lot more nickel ‘n’ dime. They’ve gotten younger, bigger, and faster at LB. And who knows what they might get up to, when Edwards (or Smith or FA?) sits? Gabe Miller, with a running start from ILB can shoot the gap or take on OL/FB like blocking sleds. He’s a dark horse, because of the injury concerns. They might bring him along slow, at first.
would of ≠ would've
We could do far better in secondary money with other players than Champ Bailey
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 28, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Steve, I out doubt that there are
as many players out there as good as Champ Bailey.
Or as hungry for a Super Bowl. A Super bowl win will make him a sure fire first ballot Hall of Famer.
We don’t need him, but he would be an excellent addition to the team. He is experienced, dedicated, and one of the top fiftteen greatest CB’s in the history of the league and could easily be our third safety for another 3-5 years and be worth every penny.
Think Rodney Harrison.. Steve.
There is no one that will convince me that Champ Bailey wouldn’t be a great addition to this team. If we needed a starting CB, he would be a terrible decision. Though if we need a rotation guy that wants a ring, and would be ammunition in the Brandon Flowers and Carr contracts. I say hell yeah, pull the trigger.
Better options? Name them, I’ll wait.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 28, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm kinda with Steve on this one.
But you make a good case. Champ has no championship, true, and that could be an inducement.
“Need” can be a sketchy term, but I do like the point you make. If KC needed a starting CB, he’d demand big salary, and they’d be hostage to any injury. He could do a pretty convincing Charles Woodson impression, and Woodson’s versatility made it tough to scope just what his intentions were pre-snap. With a McGraw, (Mike) Brown, or Pollard, opposing offenses could pretty much tell where the soft spot(s) would be.
I think it’d depend on whether Pioli thinks it’s time to put the pedal to the metal. He’s already said some things that suggest it’s time for the Chiefs to take the next step, and Champ’s the kind of player who can give you a real champ-ionship edge.
would of ≠ would've
That is all that I am say Mills
suggest it’s time for the Chiefs to take the next step, and Champ’s the kind of player who can give you a real champ-ionship edge.
Steve said there are better options out there, and I don’t believe that to be true.
I am not saying we need Champ Bailey, because I don’t think we do. Though for the role the Chiefs are looking to fill on this defense. There is no “better” option than Bailey.
He would be a little pricey… though maybe not. Plus, he may want to stick to Denver for not giving him another big contract when he was still in his prime prime.
meh...
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