The Patriot Way -vs- The Chiefs Way. The Wonder Years.
Maybe this should be titled:
Kraft/Belichick/Pioli -vs- Hunt/Haley/Pioli. The Early Years.
Who knows, who cares? I figured the title would bother Craig in Calgary, so I went with it... Last week I compared the 2003 Chiefs to the future 2011 Chiefs team. It was a fair comparison, and an interesting subject. However, it was lacking in the similarities by which the two teams were operated. Dick Vermeil's team and Todd Haley's team to be, were a little too far apart in philosophical differences on both sides of the pigskin.
So after giving it some thought this week, and writing a couple stories about the lockout (which were greeted with the sound of crickets.) I figured, who better to compare our 2011 Chiefs team to, other than the very same team our fearless leader Scott Pioli cut his Super Bowl Winning teeth with... The New England Patriots!!!
More specifically, the 2001 Super Bowl Winning New England Patriots. After all, I believe that the Chiefs are about to start a Super Bowl Winning Dynasty of their own. So, why not compare them to the team that they will be linked to forever anyway.
Let's take a look at the rosters, and then we will get down to nitty gritty.
Nitty Gritty - Meaning:
The heart of the matter; the basic essentials; the harsh realities.
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Brady |
QB |
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Cassel |
QB |
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Edwards |
FB |
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McCluster |
W/R |
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Smith |
RB |
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Charles |
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Brown |
WR |
VS |
Bowe |
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Patten |
WR |
VS |
Baldwin |
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Light |
LT |
VS |
Albert |
LT |
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Compton |
LG |
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Waters |
LG |
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Woody |
C |
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Hudson |
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Andruzzi |
RG |
VS |
Lilja |
RG |
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Randall |
RT |
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Richardson |
RT |
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Rutledge |
TE |
VS |
Moeaki |
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Hamilton |
LDE |
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Jackson |
LDE |
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Mitchell |
LDT |
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Powe |
NT |
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Pleasant |
RDT |
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Dorsey |
RDE |
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Seymour |
RDE |
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Houston |
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Cox |
LLB |
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Belcher |
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Bruschi |
MLB |
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Johnson |
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Johnson |
MLB |
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Hali |
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Phifer |
RLB |
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Flowers |
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Law |
LCB |
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Carr |
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Smith |
RCB |
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Berry |
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Milloy |
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Lewis |
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Jones |
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Arenas |
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Vinatieri |
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Succop |
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Walter |
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Colquitt |
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Brown |
PR |
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Faulk |
KR |
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McCluster |
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Vrabel |
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Wiggins |
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At first glance, doesn't it look like the 2011 Chiefs are remarkably better at almost every position. I mean for goodness sakes, Anthony Pleasant? Isn't he our Defensive Line Coach now, what good would he possibly do on a Super Bowl Winner... Ha!
Sidenote:
Anthony Pleasant finished his career with 58 sacks. Which obviously is a sign from the
Football CopsFootball Gods, that he was meant to coach the line in Kansas City to greatness.
Seriously though, this is when the Patriots were nobodies. They were coming off a 5-11 season, and castoff Browns Coach Bill Belichick was going into his second season after succeeding Pete Carroll.
We all know the story, Drew Bledsoe got hurt... Check it out (Big thanks to Zeekk7 at Youtube and ESPN for the video.)
Mo Lewis Buries Drew Bledsoe! (via zeekk7)
Immediately afterwards, the skies opened up, Tom Brady flew down on a cloud from heaven, and won the Patriots 3 Super Bowls in 4 seasons.
In 2001 though, how good was Tom Brady compared to Matt Cassel in 2010. Let's look at the numbers. (Pro-football-reference.com)
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Lng Sk Yds AV
Tom Brady
2001*
24
NWE
QB
12
15
14
11-3-0
264
413
63.9
2843
18
4.4
12
2.9
91
6.9
6.4
10.8
189.5
86.5
41
216
5.8
5.4
9.0
12
Matt Cassel
2010*
28
KAN
QB
7
15
15
10-5-0
262
450
58.2
3116
27
6.0
7
1.6
75
6.9
7.4
11.9
207.7
93.0
26
182
6.2
6.6
5.5
12
I know, I know, I can't compare those numbers, because Tom Brady went on to a Super Bowl victory and Matt Cassel went on to an abysmal playoff loss to the Baltimore Ravens.
That is exactly why I am comparing the 01' Patriots to the 11' Chiefs instead. So by that method, Matt Cassel looks well on his way to stacking up against his mentor in his breakout season.
Offense.
The 2001 Patriots were not a team that looked built for a Super Bowl run. Look at the rosters weapons... Troy Brown, David Patten, Antowain Smith, Rod Rutledge, Kevin Faulk. Sure, Antowain Smith and Troy Brown had great years during their super season.
Though for my money, I would take Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Tony Moeaki, Dexter McCluster and Jonathan Baldwin for the win. Everyday of the week and even twice on Super Bowl Sunday.
That includes the Offensive Line. Remember in 2001, Matt Light was just a rookie.
That's right Arrowhead Pride, I would take the Chiefs 2011 Offense over the Super Bowl Winning 2001 New England Patriots, the team whom beat "The Greatest Show On Turf" to start a dynasty.
Defense.
The 2001 Patriots biggest strength was playing as a collective unit. Everything that Todd Haley preaches about wanting the Chiefs to be as far as complimentary football goes, is what the New England Patriots were exactly and then some. It is obviously why Scott Pioli is so sold on the method working. This team knew how to play together and win as one, if a piece broke, they plugged another piece in, kept churning and they haven't looked back since.
Talent wise, the Patriots defense was great. They had two top flight CB's in Otis Smith(in the twilight of his career) and Ty Law. One of the great safeties to ever play the game, Lawyer Milloy. It featured Ted Johnson and Tedy Bruschi, as a fierce MLB duo and a great Defensive Coordinator named Romeo Crennel (you may have heard of him.)
In a lot of ways Kansas City's defense is similarly packed. The Chiefs have an outstanding young safety in Eric Berry, a relentless pass rusher in Tamba Hali. Two high caliber CB's in the NFL, one of whom plays out of this world in Brandon Flowers.
Both teams have young guys ready to step in and play well. The Patriots had Richard Seymour, and Mike Vrabel. The Chiefs have Justin Houston, Cameron Sheffield, Micah Johnson, Allen Bailey and Jerrell Powe ready to step up and maybe make a difference soon.
I think Kansas City has the potential to be an even better defense than the 2001 Patriots. Talent wise they are very similar with the Chiefs having a little better depth. Plus, we have the same Defensive Coach, but ours has ten years experience on theirs.
Who do you give the edge to?
Special Teams.
The Patriots had the greatest clutch kicker of all-time and Todd Haley just goes for it on fourth down. So I will give the edge to the Patriots. Though, I do think Javier Arenas will be one of the premier returners in the league in 2011.
The Patriot Way.
How can you argue with The Patriot Way, 2001 is the year that it was really brought to fruition. The Patriots went on to win 3 out of 4 Super Bowls, and came just one defended circus catch away from a undefeated season in 2007.
The Patriot Way gave us our GM Scott Pioli, whom has brought us back to relevance. I will forever be grateful to Bill Belichick for developing our fearless leader on his pull out sofa in the 1990's.
Overall record in New England
Under Belichick, the Patriots have gone 126–50 in 11 regular seasons. The team also sports a 14-5 record in the playoffs, and 3–1 in Super Bowls. They have won eight division titles, including five consecutive titles from 2003 to 2007 (and only missed the playoffs on tiebreakers in 2002 and 2008). The Patriots have also defeated each regular season MVP they have faced in that year's playoffs (Kurt Warner in Super Bowl XXXVI, Peyton Manning and Steve McNair after the 2003 season, Manning in 2004, LaDainian Tomlinson in 2006).
From Here
Say what you will about The Patriot Way, but after reading that and watching the NFL the last decade. It is obvious that it is incredibly effective in the NFL.
That said...
The Chiefs Way.
This is a new age in Kansas City. It is an age of the Holy Trinity. Clark Hunt, Scott Pioli, and Todd Haley completely have all of my faith and I believe they will lead us to the promised land, in the form of a Chiefs Dynasty.
Scott Pioli obviously learned a lot in his time in New England winning all of those championships. Truly though, I think the Chiefs Way is different from the Patriot Way. It is new and improved, he has hacked the fat from the Patriot Way of winning and created something special with it here in Kansas City.
Todd Haley puts his own unique spin on "The Process" and we have heard Clark Hunt speak about modeling his team after the Pittsburgh Steelers.
So that leads me to believe that there is a lot more to The Chiefs Way, then Scott Pioli just swiping Bill Belichick's playbook ala, "The Waterboy" and going to a new team. This Kansas City Chiefs organization has its own ideas for success as well.
via t0.gstatic.com
Arrowhead Pride, what do you think separates the Chiefs Way from the Patriots Way?
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Great read man, I’m continually impressed with how this website puts out decent articles to read day after day. Good post and thanks for entreating me and keeping my faith in the NFL a little bit at time.
by KChiefs58 on Jun 25, 2011 3:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Thank you
Arrowhead Pride is a great website, and the Chiefs give us a lot of good topics to discuss. Though it is tough with the lockout. I will always have some form of opinion on the state of the Chiefs though. I can’t help it.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
With all of the Dynasty talk around AP
The NFL may decide to lock us all up for crazy talk. Thanks Steve… appreciated.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
How about we win a superbowl first....then we can start talkin Dinasty...good greef.
Let me pour some cold water on you guys…we havent sniffed a Superbowl since the 1969 season….thats even before my frickin time.
And, reading this list…I was struck by one thing…..
Tom Brady…………Matt Cassel
I had to give that the obligatory Mythbusters….“well therz your problem”
who knows…maybe Matt Cassel is Drew Bledsoe and Stanzi is the next Brady…shrudge
Team Berry
Team BalHudson...i guess..now
yah still dont go poppin off about Dinasties if you havent been to a Superbowl in 4 decades
Team Berry
Team BalHudson...i guess..now
by MasterBlaster7 on Jun 25, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
all dynasties have to start somewhere masterblaster...
Don’t knock us ‘crazies’ that believe the sun may finally be shining on our franchise again
by Chiefs08Matt on Jun 25, 2011 5:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Superbowl dreamin...yes. Dynasty dreamin.....I have a bridge I wana sell you.
Team Berry
Team BalHudson...i guess..now
by MasterBlaster7 on Jun 26, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
What are dinasties?
Sounds like a really mean group of dinosaurs….
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
It's polite way to say dinosaur shit.
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I almost added that tidbit about Stanzi replacing Cassel...
Ugh.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think it is crazy to think that the Super Bowl Chiefs could be led by Stanzi. I’m super excited that he now is our backup.
I can’t wait to see how he develops.
by JaySoy on Jun 25, 2011 6:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
For all of my optimism. I am not sure how I feel about Stanzi.
He had a solid college career, and seems sounds, but I think he will just be a good backup.
Which is exactly what the Chiefs needed. Only time will tell.
This photo doesn’t help my feelings any:

meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe some highlights will help?
He stares down his receivers with a vengeance, but he can find the open man.
He hops when he throws sometimes, and my favorite play was a run. Though I am still excited about him over Croyle.
You tell me…
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like he already has a better pocket presence than Cassel
Slides very well, while keeping his eyes downfield. And his reported lack of arm strength is a non-factor, though that also will improve with a professional strengthening program.
I like the kid’s potential.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
A lot of Stanzi plays he didn't have a ton of pressure in his face.
He pats the ball like crazy like he is counting out lot.
I hope Stanzi is good, and he doesn’t have a lot of negatives. I want to see how he does in camp in person before I really judge him too much.
Would it be too much to ask him to go by Rick instead of Ricky.
Great QB’s 7 years experience minimum.
Joe Montana
Peyton Manning
Otto Graham
Brett Favre
Tom Brady
Johnny Unitas
John Elway
Terry Bradshaw
Dan Marino
Steve Young
Troy Aikman
Kurt Warner
Bart Starr
Jim Kelly
Roger Staubach
Fran Tarkenton
Donovan McNabb
Sid Luckman
Joe Theismann
Ken Stabler
Phil Simms
Steve McNair
Trent Green
Bob Griese
Len Dawson
Boomer Esiason
Joe Namath
Drew Bledsoe
Rich Gannon
Ken Anderson
Dan Fouts
Jack Kemp
Warren Moon
Daryle Lamonica
Jim Plunkett
Brad Johnson
Mark Brunell
Norm Van Brocklin
Jeff Garcia
Roman Gabriel
Marc Bulger
Y.A. Tittle
Neil Lomax
Matt Hasselbeck
Jake Delhomme
Jake Plummer
Jim Everett
Drew Brees
Randall Cunningham
Not to many “y’s” or “ie’s” on any of those first names is there Brodie? Haha
I like his odds better going with Rick Stanzi moving forward.
Scott Pioli can call him Ricky though. He calls Tom Brady, “Tommy” so that is actually welcomed behavior.
Tony Soprano does the same to people.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I am just kidding Ricky...
Ricky is a fine name, just ask
All great Ricky’s
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice job CBO
Here’s one of the posts I have made about the same subject. I agree with you that there are many similarities.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Yes your post was one of the more popular posts of all time. A Great Read.
Looking back it is funny because Dwayne Bowe ended up doing better than Troy Brown and David Patten. I wonder if he read your article?
The Matt Cassel to Tom Brady argument is kind of silly… We don’t need Matt Cassel to be Tom Brady. I mean sure, it wouldn’t hurt if Matt was clutch (like in the Buffalo game.)
However, we just need Matt Cassel to be a great game manager. I think we will see more than that though. I think Matt Cassel will smash through that ceiling you were talking about and prove his detractors are close relatives of Anne Retart.
We don’t need Cassel to be Tom Brady. We need Matt Cassel to be Matt Cassel and lead this team The Chiefs Way.
I am ready for the season. Go Chiefs
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
It is intruiguing looking at the similarities AND differences from those two squads...
I think in a lot of ways our 11’ Chiefs have more talented players all over the roster. Where we’re not quite equal, really there may not be any teams with an equal, is the QB position. Brady is a freak and makes the Pats what they are. Take him away and they may never have won ANY titles. Now this isn’t a knock on Cassel cuz frankly I’m one of the Cassel believers that has always backed him up since he’s been here, but its just hard to measure up any QB to Brady. This doesn’t mean we can’t win a title, I think Cassel has all the tools to win us a SB, it just means we need a few extra playmakers around him in order to do what the Pats did in the early 2000’s. That’s exactly why I’m with CBO here in that I think we’re set for a dynasty run in the next 5 seasons. Call us crazy if you want, but the similarities are there and its up to our players and as always a few lucky bounces of the ball to prove that we can be the next dynasty. I believe…
by Chiefs08Matt on Jun 25, 2011 5:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Cassel won 10 games subbing for Brady
and finished of the Chiefs too
I betcha that if Brady was not still a youngish QB in 2009, the Patriots would have dealt Brady and kept Cassel
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 25, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe so
And while Cassel did admirably filling in for Brady, that just so happened to be one of the two seasons that the Pats missed the playoffs due to a tiebreaker. I think if Brady didn’t go down in week 1 against us that they find a way to win one more game that year. He’s just proven that he’s that type of game changer. Not that Cassel can’t be a game changer himself, I just think that rust may have been an issue for him to shake off that year with the Pats and the first year with us. He was finally given the opportunity to shine with us starting last year considering our lack or talent on the roster previous to 2010, and with his work ethic I think his light will only begin to shine brighter.
by Chiefs08Matt on Jun 25, 2011 5:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know about throwing the "Dynasty" word around
but I definitely think that if this team stays on track and keeps progressing, and continues to develop talent from the draft, then the Kansas City Chiefs will be a serious contender very soon.
I have been in love with the brand of all for one, never quit, team football the Patriots play for years now, and I love the discipline, consistency, and professionalism shown by our new staff. I can’t wait to see what’s in store for the future of the CHIEFS!
Good read, thanks.
by bamachief5558 on Jun 25, 2011 5:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
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CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
by kabrink on Jun 25, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well said Kabrink
Nice touch…
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice read CBO
It’s never too early to predict a dynasty from forming if there are valid points made. Which there are here.
The people who backed Aaron Rodgers from day one may have been called out by Favre-lovers, but they’re all celebrating together now.
Be sure you put your feet in the right place, then stand firm.
-Abraham Lincoln
Thank Bajah...
It isn’t just about the prediction. Anyone that has read my stuff knows how I feel about the Chiefs going to the Super Bowl.
I like to see the Chiefs get credit for the improvement that they have made, and see fellow fans realize that it might not be so far away after all. The Chiefs are legitimate.
I challenge other fans out there to take other NFL rosters out there and prove that they have more talent then they Chiefs do. Especially after Free Agency happens.
If the Chiefs add a RT, NT, S and third WR. They will have no glaring weaknesses. That don’t even truly need all of those holes filled, it is just for depth and competition. They are pretty much set at every position on the field, some of them just need a little time to grow.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Where is Lady Chief at when you need her? :)
I am surprised nobody has posted a pic of the obvious…
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 25, 2011 6:56 PM CDT reply actions
Great Writeup!
The only thing missing here is that the Patriots cheated to win every superbowl they won, and did it by 3 points every time. They were good teams, but not better than who they played when the won, they just got away with the biggest scam in NFL history.
The Chiefs way will be better, whether we win the big one or not, because we will do it the right way!
Great post.
I really believe the Chiefs have the players now to be a Dynasty for years to come, but will they. I also think the Chiefs have one of the most talented rosters in the league if our last draft pans out like last years did. I have faith in our staff from Pioli down and i believe that Cassel can take this team to the next level.
Teams coming to K.C will have nightmares for the next 5 or 6 years to come, and the Chiefs will set the standard for how you want your team to play football.
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I give all the credit to Clark Hunt for going out and getting Scott Pioli...
I can’t imagine it was an easy sell, but he got his man and here we are.
It is nice to read fans being positive about the Chiefs, and having some hope.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 26, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
What's not to like about the Chiefs at this point.
Opposing QBs be forewarned, prepare to be POWNED.
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Caption this...
“The alliance… will die. As will your friends. Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete! "
by Stone Throwers on Jun 26, 2011 8:57 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
exactly what I thought!
Of course, if you are a Pats fan, that pic can also pass as Obi Wan.
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
DB
Dwyane Bowe really needs to step it up this year if they chiefs have a good chance of winning the AFC West
Good post, fun read
I see our defense as having better skill positions than the Pats ever did, but they had us beat soundly up front. Hopefully, by this time next year I’m not saying that (after T-Jax takes another step forward and we solidify the NT position somehow)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Solid read...
but I think comparing Richard Seymour and Mike Vrabel to Micah Johnson and Cameron Sheffield is a bit of a reach. There’s some good young talent on this team, but expecting big things from a 5th round pick and a rookie FA is a bit over the top.
Well sure it is if you leave off the other three names I mentioned...
Mike Vrabel was a cast off by the Steelers by the way.
Vrabel was drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the third round (91st overall) of the 1997 Draft.
He spent the first four seasons of his career in Pittsburgh (wearing #56). His most notable play as a Steeler came in his rookie season, when he sacked Drew Bledsoe in the 1997-98 AFC Divisional Playoffs to clinch a 7-6 win for the Steelers. Nevertheless, Vrabel was a backup for the Steelers throughout his tenure there, and had considered retiring from the NFL before he signed with the Patriots.
He wasn’t exactly a world beater at first, who knows what Allen Bailey, Cameron Sheffield, Justin Houston, Micah Johnson and Jerrell Powe’s careers are going to look like in 10 years. They could surprise you, everyone has to start somewhere.
The point was the Chiefs have young talent that will get better, and so did the Patriots.
meh...
by Chief-blinders-on on Jun 27, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions

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