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Tyson revisited

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via www.kcchiefsblog.com

www.drafttek.com is revisiting the 2009 NFL draft this week. The Kansas City Chiefs draft in 2009 consists basically of Tyson Jackson, The Trade, and The Irrelevent Mr. Succop. The Chiefs in picking up Mike Vrabel with Matt Cassel for the 2nd round pick had satisfied themselves that the OLB positions were covered. Tamba Hali and Mike Vrabel should and would give the Chiefs what they needed in the 2009 season. The Chiefs needed a player to pair with Glenn Dorsey at the 3-4 Defensive End position. The Chiefs selected a pair to develope in Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee. What did Draft Tek have to say about Tyson Jackson?

Last year, Tyson lost his starting job to journeyman Shaun (The Nutcracker) Smith. That is not supposed to happen to a top five pick. This year should be make or break for Tyson. Another poor year and he could displace Ryan Sims as the Chiefs poster boy for failed defensive lineman. Played 338 snaps in 2010, starting 3 early season games. Down from 700 snaps in 2009.

Seems a bit harsh when you read the write-up for the only other Defensive End selected in the 1st round.

Ayers played in 15 games (starting 1) during his rookie season. Stats: 426 snaps 14 total tackles and no sacks. Ayers did better his second year - totaling 10 starts in 11 games (missed 5 games to broken foot). In that time, he tallied 32 tackles with 7 assists, 1.5 sacks and 2 passes defended. Decent progress to date, but it remains to be seen how Ayers will fit into John Fox' 4-3 front.

Robert Ayers is listed as an OLB for Denver now, maybe always, maybe he will be 4-3 End now.

Drafttek has listed a number of players as DE's as drafted in 2009. Their Grades through 4 rounds. Link

Tyson Jackson C
Robert Ayers B
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Everette Brown C
Connor Barwin C+
David Veikune F
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Alex Magee E
Jarron Gilbert F
Micheal Johnson B
Matt Shaughnessy B
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Henry Melton C
Victor Butler D
Kyle Moore C-
Brandon Williams E
Lawrence Sidbury E

What were the thoughts on this 2009 draft for Defensive ends pre-draft?

The Class Is ... all about the pass rushers. There's a new wave of hybrid ends who could be pass rushers from an outside linebacker position. Brian Orakpo, Aaron Maybin, and Everette Brown are just a few of the great athletes who should turn into stars for a defense. This is a deep group with several different options, with plenty of room for second guessing.

The Best Value Pick Will Be ... David Veikune, Hawaii

Most Underrated ... Maurice Evans, Penn State

Most Overrated ... Tyson Jackson, LSU

The Deep, Deep Sleeper Is ... Chris Baker, Hampton
 
 
THE FRANCHISE
1. Brian Orakpo, Texas  6-3, 260
Either a 4-3 speed rusher or an outside linebacker in a 3-4, wherever he lines up he’ll get into the backfield on a regular basis. Extremely strong, he’s a freak of nature in the weight room and workouts with a jaw-dropping performance at the Combine. He has busted his tail to get bigger, stronger, and better since he first came to Austin. There are some durability concerns, but last year’s injury that limited him late in the season was a fluke. There’s a consistency question and there’s a huge concern about his motor, but when he’s on, he’s unstoppable. The other possible question is where to put him. He’s not really a linebacker and will probably be at his best with a hand on the ground. However, there’s no concern about how he handles himself against big tackles. Line him up, turn him loose, and let him wreak havoc as a devastating game-changer of a pass rusher.
CFN Projection: First Round

2. Aaron Maybin, Penn State  6-3, 250 (3rd year Soph.)
A true-tweener, he’s a defensive end who’ll likely be morphed into a hybrid player and likely an outside linebacker. Lightning fast off the ball, at least during the season, he blows around a corner effortlessly and with a burst that most tackles won’t be able to handle. Extremely tough, he’s able to take on big blockers and come back for more even when he doesn’t win a battle. However, he needs to get stronger and there’s a huge, glaring concern that he might slow down with the added bulk. He put on weight too quickly after the season and was far slower than expected in workouts. If you’re going by how he played at around 230 pounds, he’s stunning. If you’re going by what he might become once he learns to play bigger, there’s a potential problem. He needs time before he becomes the player he should be, but there is a big-time upside. But he’s not a sure-thing, safe pick and there’s told-you-so bust potential.
CFN Projection: First Round

3. Everette Brown, Florida State  6-1, 255 (Jr.)
Is he big enough? He has the athleticism to seamlessly transition into an outside linebacker in any system, but his moved and his pass rushing technique are so strong and so polished that he’s far more intriguing as a lightning-fast end. However, he’s not all that tall and he doesn’t have much room to get too much bigger, so this might be it. While he’s not a big-time run stopper, and the jury is out on whether or not he could become an all-around playmaker at linebacker, he’ll work to make himself better and has the character to try to become the best he can be. If nothing else, he’ll be a fun pass rushing toy for a defensive coordinator to play with.
CFN Projection: First Round

POSSIBLE NFL STARTERS

4. Robert Ayers, Tennessee  6-3, 275
The upside is enormous. Big, with the size to get a lot bigger, he could be just scratching the surface on what he can become. At least that’s the hope. He was fine in his one year as a major producer, but it took him a while to mature and he still has a long way to go. He made a name for himself with a strong Senior Bowl when he was great against the top offensive tackles in practices, but he struggled at the Combine with a bad bench and failing to show enough athleticism to become a consistent outside linebacker. A mediocre pass rusher, he needs a lot of work on his technique. Even so, with his size, he could be one of the boom players of the draft.
CFN Projection: First Round

5. Paul Kruger, Utah  6-3, 265 (3rd year Soph.)
One of the more interesting prospects with a wild story, he was beaten up and stabbed in a fight, was lucky to live, spent two years on an LDS Church mission, and blew up into one of the stars on last year’s unbeaten Ute team. A mature, athletic pass rusher who always goes full-tilt, he’s ready to go right now. However, this is it. While he can still get a bit bigger, this is basically it. There’s a ceiling on how good he can become, and he’s not the type of player who’ll blossom in three years. While he’s not elite in any one area, he doesn’t have a major, glaring weakness. There are going to be health issues considering all the crazy things that have happened to his insides from various surgeries, but he could be a poor man’s Chris Long.
CFN Projection: Second Round

6. Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech   6-7, 270
There’s first round, maybe top five overall talent, but he hasn’t always played like it. Extremely quick with freakishly long arms and great strength, he has all the tools to become a superstar if the light goes on. He has a passing interest in stopping the run and disappeared for long stretches. If he’s asked to just rush the passer, he could be the type of player who comes up with one sack a game and does nothing else, becoming overrated because of a gaudy sack number at the end of the year. He could be a major heartbreaker with great production in just enough games to show what he’s capable of … and then he’ll have everyone scratching their heads wondering why he can’t do that all the time.
CFN Projection: Second Round

7. Tyson Jackson, LSU  6-4, 295
More of a tackle playing end, Jackson is a dream of a 3-4 end and he could end up seeing time at tackle in the right situations. He’s not a pass rusher and if he gets to the quarterback it’ll be a fluke. His worth is as a strong run-stopper who won’t let anything get by him on the outside while getting just enough push into the backfield to warrant a second blocker. Despite playing on a great line for the last few years, he didn’t stand out as much as he should’ve despite being the second or third best player on the front four and not getting as much attention. There’s nothing special about him outside of his size, and he doesn’t have a full-tilt motor, but he’ll be around for a long time and be a great cog in the system because of his versatility.
CFN Projection: First Round

8. Lawrence Sidbury, Richmond  6-3, 267
Very long, very productive, and very, very fast, he has the skills to be one of the high-rising prospects in the draft. He was the fastest defensive lineman at the Combine ripping off a 4.54 to go along with his tremendous pass rushing production at the FCS level. He needs to show he can hold up against the better competition and he needs to develop more moves, but the upside is tremendous. Give him the right coach and ask him to blast into the backfield, and he should be able to do it. The athleticism, the strength, and the quickness are too much to be overlooked.
CFN Projection: Second Round

9. David Veikune, Hawaii  6-4, 255
A way undersized, way productive pass rusher who can be used in a variety of ways, he has a good enough motor to be a third down specialist as a 4-3 end, or he could be developed into an outside linebacker in a 3-4. Ridiculously strong, he needs to do a better job of translating his freakish weight room strength to the field. Still a wee bit of an unknown since he didn’t blow up until his final year at Hawaii, he could be underdrafted because he doesn’t have the biggest buzz. That could be a big mistake. He’ll not only make a roster, but he could be an Link

It Seems the Chiefs may have gotten the only worthwhile true 3-4 Defensive End in the 2009 draft, with the 3rd overall pick.

let's compare stats

Tyson Jackson

2010 Kansas City Chiefs  12 3  31 19 12 1.0 -- 0 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
 
2009 Kansas City Chiefs  16 14  38 27 11 0.0 -- 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
 
TOTAL 69 46 23 1.0 0 2 0 0 -- 0 0 0

Robert Ayers

2010 Denver Broncos  11 10  39 32 7 1.5 -- 1 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 1
 
2009 Denver Broncos  15 1  19 14 5 0.0 0 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
 
TOTAL 58 46 12 1.5 0 3 0 0 -- 0 0 1

Even with an injury that cost Jackson part of the 2010 season, Tyson has accumulated more statistical numbers than Robert Ayers playing an OLB spot that most players rack up the numbers in.

By KENT BABB
The Kansas City Star

Chiefs coach Todd Haley said Friday afternoon that defensive end Tyson Jackson was held out of last Sunday’s game at Houston for reasons other than health, in effect indicating that Jackson’s practice performances weren’t impressive enough to warrant a spot on the team’s 45-man gameday roster.

Jackson, last year’s No. 3 overall draft pick, injured his knee during the regular-season opener against San Diego, and he hasn’t played since, although he returned to practice as a full participant two weeks ago. He was cleared from the injury report this week, but defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel said that if Jackson dresses for Sunday’s game, the Chiefs won’t use him full-time.

“He hasn’t been able to play yet, and we don’t know what we’re going to get when he gets there,” Crennel said. “When you’re coming back from an injury, you have to overcome the mental part of it to say that he’s OK and he can do it.”

Haley said that Jackson, who appears to have put on weight since his injury, was healthy enough to play against the Texans but didn’t factor into coaches’ plans.

“It was the right 45 for Sunday,” Haley said, “with all the variables as they were.”

Haley added that wide receiver Chris Chambers, who suffered a finger injury but also has underachieved so far this year, also was healthy enough for action despite being inactive.

“Both players could have played,” Haley said.

10/23/10

We don't know all the particulars of the injury, We know Todd Haley though and he likes to send very LOUD messages to players he is grooming to be better than they are. Shaun Smith was not too bad last year either :)

Overall I feel Tyson Jackson has performed well for the position he plays in his 2 years.

Geaux Chiefs

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