Our Current Chiefs Team
by Steve_Chiefs on May 1, 2011 7:35 PM CDT
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The Kansas City Chiefs are filling in their roster as the days pass. Currently, the Chiefs have 65 players either under contract or own their rights after this weekends NFL Draft. The Chiefs are allowed 80 players whenever training camp finally opens. We have 15 vacant roster spots to fill with our own Free Agents or someone elses' Free Agents and of couse those Undrafted Free Agent players left after the draft. What position group(s) needs more attention?
Pioli has been busy in his 2 plus years here. Bowe, Albert, Waters, Cottam, Charles, and Johnson are all that is left of Herm Edwards holdovers on Offense. The Defense has about the same number left. Dustin Colquitt is the lone Specialist holdover. The next few months should be interesting to see as the Chiefs 2011 team takes further shape.
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We've got a complete
home-grown defense. Just needs some depth from here out. The offense is a QB away
Yeah
Our Pro Bowl QB is the problem
We're the same team as last year, except incredibly better, and with new players.
by Flowers24 on May 1, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If I'm not mistaken I think you mean Charles, Jones, & Battle
Our depth looks much better now.
"Without me, it's just aweso".- comment made by Jamaal Charles and Eric Berry.
Oh yea I forgot about Tavarris (sp) my bad.
Wonder what his future is with us.
"Without me, it's just aweso".- comment made by Jamaal Charles and Eric Berry.
Probably cut after preseason
Hard to say though. I’d guess he’s a FB/H-back/TE/special teams type though.
College: Played in 48 games with seven starts … Began his career as a defensive back before moving to tight end for the 2008 season … Saw extensive special teams duty.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/roster/Tervaris-Johnson/7a8a8ade-7c9d-40c6-af38-3a9ae6d90f34
FA Harris
I really hope that we go after some quality starting tackle/depth. If one our are starters goes down, could have major implications.
We should pretend to suck next year just for Andrew Luck
He would make us a perennial contender
My Draft
1: Akeem Ayers OLB
2: Torrey Smith WR
3: Kendrick Ellis NT
4: Austin Pettis WR
5:Marcus Gilbert OT
5:Tim Barnes C
6:Nathan Enderle QB
7: Blaine Sumner NT
Man
behind bowe, mccluster and baldwin maybe since we dont know what he’ll bring us just yet, our WR depth is horrible
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Do you think they will try to groom a few of what we have?
and cut bait on the more veteran WR’s
I really see Chambers staying one more year just do to contract terms if he shows anything in camp
"Hair cut time.''
Keep grooming Tucker and Horne they both showed flashes
i would get rid of Chambers after last season and after adding Baldwin. Chambers only really had a shot at the team if he could compete for the #2.. I can’t see him putting up a fight against Baldwin tbh
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
depth? cost?
3/8/2010: Signed a three-year, $12 million contract. The deal includes $5.9 million guaranteed. Another $3 million is available through incentives. 2011-2012: $2.9 million, 2013: Free Agent
"Hair cut time.''
We have 10 receivers on that chart right now
Would you rather have Chambers taking up the #3 or #4 spot or Dex/Tucker/Horne?
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I guess it might not be worth another 2.9 Million to find out
Chambers got a sweet 5.9 Million for his 22 catches last year
"Hair cut time.''
He could very well stick on this team since it is young
At the same time he gave us so little last year I would rather have a young guy get the chance to step up and continue to get better
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone like
Baldwin?
Better to be a Diamond with a flaw than a Pebble without - Master Kong
Only time will tell...
by ChiefWarPaint on May 1, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I already said I don't see Chambers beating out Baldwin for the #2
So no.. Tucker/Horne
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Do we need to add more player to the WR group?
I would love a solid slot guy but it really just moves McCluster to the RB group
"Hair cut time.''
Which I believe Haley said was the plan
McCluster at RB that is.
Urban gets another training camp, I'd think.
The thing about adding Baldwin is Horne, Tucker, Lawrence, Copper, even Chambers, are now competing for fewer snaps. You kinda have to figure that this is a better situation than last year. And NOW the Chiefs can line up one of Bowe, Chambers or Baldwin in the slot and virtually guarantee at least a size mismatch that takes a lot away from any blitzes the opposition wants to run. The Chiefs can now field a pretty imposing 3-WR set. I wouldn’t throw Chambers under the bus, just yet. This is exactly the kind of situation he needs, in order to have a productive season.
would of ≠ would've
Yeah this is exactly what Chambers needs
Another contract year ;)
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 5:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Or league
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Reason why Bowe is on the left instead of the right?
Must say the team is looking sexy
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H^2-Hali and Houston
Bowe lines up on the right
He is the #1
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay
the depth chart shows WR1 and WR2
Are you sure? Maybe I am Dislexic watching the game
"Hair cut time.''
Get it all figured out?
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
But Wow
We have ourselves a roster. From here we just need to get them to develop and keep adding depth and we’ll be there. Not a single complaint from any of our starters. From QB to Punter/Kicker
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lots of fodder on that list
But the roster is really improving!
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
by stagdsp on May 1, 2011 8:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Why Miller over Micah Johnson as well?
Micah is at least a thumper, we really don’t know anything about Miller..
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H^2-Hali and Houston
Well I didn't slide him in as the starter :)
Should Powe be the starter over Toribio?
"Hair cut time.''
You do have Miller higher than Johnson on the chart so was just curious
Granted Powe might beat Toribio out by the time TC is over(if there is one) for now I still probably would
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Powe said his primary experience and preference is the 3-4 NT
He may be more experienced than anyone else already on the team.
Still believing CHIEFS WILL go 10-6
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by giftedchiefsfan on May 1, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if Gales is actually part of the NT rotation
or depth for DE/DT position
"Hair cut time.''
Honestly don't know much about Gales
I would assume just backup/depth everywhere though
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think his shot is as a pass rushing DT in the nickel.
But it’s looking crowded at that position, right now.
would of ≠ would've
Never really a bad thing to have a lot of pass rushers
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 5:58 AM CDT up reply actions
After this draft, KC's nickel will be bigger and faster, both.
Better pressure from the front 5, and it’ll be harder to trickerize the nickel with the draws. Chiefs were already pretty good at staying home against the screens (good coaching and smart players). This is something I’ll be watching for from the youngsters, who might not stay at home the way they ought, in certain situations.
would of ≠ would've
gotcha
Still believing CHIEFS WILL go 10-6
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by giftedchiefsfan on May 1, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Very
As well as RB
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by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing there will be a couple more UDFA's brought in at that position
UDFA’s RB’s are really a dime a dozen especially from smaller schools
Still believing CHIEFS WILL go 10-6
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by giftedchiefsfan on May 1, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
We need it and yes there are plenty around
Just kind of shocked to see how it is after we had the #1 rushing attack
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 1, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't the Chiefs have about 11-12 OL at camp last year?
Still believing CHIEFS WILL go 10-6
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by giftedchiefsfan on May 1, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be
With the 3 without contracts and the 7 holdovers, we had 10 on the roster throughout the year last year
"Hair cut time.''
There were exactly
15 Oline at the start of camp, enough for three rotations at each spot.
We need half of the 15 open roster spots for O-lineman?
7 more players, I doubt they go that many this year.
But 5 sounds about right
pair of centers one young and one Vet
Guard young
pair of tackles one young and one Vet
That would be 13
Practice squad the Center and Tackle
"Hair cut time.''
Think we should bring back Shaun Smith. We should also bring Mike Vrabel or Jon McGraw for the veteran leadership. Resign Casey Wiegmann if he doesnt retire this year. Resign Barry Richardson, Ryan O’Callaghan, Terrance Copper, Brandon Carr, Jackie Battle, Wallace Gilberry, Travis Daniels, Leonard Pope, and Cory Greenwood. Also add 4-5 cheap veterans for depth and leadership.
Dear Scott Pioli,
Great job on the 2011 NFL Draft. Now please bring Shaun Smith back for 2011.
I think some of those guys would stand in the way of the devekopement of younger players
McGraw would be one, Vrabel at this point could well be another.
I would like to bring back Weigmann and Copper.
Gilbert (Gilberry) my bad is restricted and should be back next year
"Hair cut time.''
Makes sense why you wouldnt want McGraw or Vrabel back.
Was thinking of putting one them a backup role, and letting the other walk. Knowing the “Patriot Way” on older linebackers, would probably guess Vrabel is going to retire a Chief. Only want to see one come back though, rather than waste two roster spots on a veteran backup-player coach for the exact reason that you just mention in your comment.
Dear Scott Pioli,
Great job on the 2011 NFL Draft. Now please bring Shaun Smith back for 2011.
Brown looks like he's in line for McGraw's job.
Not elite speed, but almost certainly more speed than McGraw and, according to Pioli, one of the top 5 special teams prospects in the ‘11 draft. But Ricky Price might be the casualty. Or Donald Washington. If Washington doesn’t come on strong, then the ’09 draft gets quite a bit tougher to defend. sigh
would of ≠ would've
To be fair
I don’t know that many teams had a good draft in ’09. Seems like it turned out to be a pretty weak draft all around.
Think you are correct on that. The 2009 Draft class as a whole just has not been that strong to this point. 2011 is a “make-it or break-it” year for this draft class, so we will see how bad this draft really is this year.
Dear Scott Pioli,
Great job on the 2011 NFL Draft. Now please bring Shaun Smith back for 2011.
by ChiefsFan90s on May 1, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Browns seems perfect for McGraw's old role
Even if people still want a ‘3rd safety’ to take his spot. Brown has the speed to stick with TEs/RBs/WRs and can press, something we all wanna see out of that guy
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 6:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Mhmm
Knock the TE on the line then get back on his hip
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Main thing we needed last go-round was a WHACK from the LB at the line.
And for the S/CB/LB who’s picking him up to UNDERSTAND how to play it off the re-direct. Very little re-direct, and very little cooperation between the LB jam (on his way to the QB) and the guy picking the TE/WR up off that jam.
McGraw actually wasn’t bad at taking on the TE by his lonesome, when he was asked to come up, jam, and then cover. Just a day late ‘n’ a dollar short if the TE got free release.
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With all the bigger WRs and TEs....
we now have very blurred roles between that of Safeties and CBs. Safeties are required to come up and cover short zones and TEs and slots dragging across. CBs have to press bigger WRs and fight for jump balls. Nickel and Dime backs have to be more versatile and all DBs are being asked to be almost interchangable. Love the direction in getting Berry last year and Brown this year. We are on the right track.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
They'll be drafting CB and QB 'most every year.
Makes sense on a lotta levels, but particularly for CBs, where the rules are so much different, and free releases are a no-no.
would of ≠ would've
We obviously need to replace key postions
QB
CB
DE (2)
RB (2)
After than it just don’t matter because we will be SB champs. Right?
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
There are several things that bug me about this draft, and drafts past. We drafted a LG to fill the LT slot and now we draft a OG to fill the OC slot. Does anyone but me think it is time to start putting the round peg in the round hole and the square peg in the square hole?
I think Hudson actually played some Center at Florida State
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=69086&draftyear=2011&genpos=OG
actually he did not
"Hair cut time.''
But he did practice at C every week and reports are that he could dominate if he were drafted into a ZBS.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
You can't always get the exact position to translate from the college ranks to the pros
However Hudson does seem to fit as a zbs center perfectly
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 6:01 AM CDT up reply actions
absolutely
he was my favorite Center in the draft.
But, if the Chiefs want to be safe, they could grab one of the other 3 “true Centers” as UDFA… O’Dowd, Kirkpatrick Barnes
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
I agree
Would allow more flexibility too since Hudson knows how to play guard very well.
Another interesting way of looking at the line in the upcoming years with say Kirkpartrick.
Albert/Asamoah/Kirkpatrick/Hudson/Richardson Very young line
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I counted 65 ... and doesn't Bowe line up on the RIGHT side?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
ha! nicely done, btw ...
and if Casey comes back that will be 66 … will they let us carry that many? :-)
after all, never have enough depth …
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Lets see
66. Weigmann
67. Copper
68. O’Callaghan or FA OT
69. Smith
70. Edwards or FA NT
71. FA WR for the slot
72. FA QB that has played in a lot of games as a starter
73-80 UDFA youngsters
Yep something like that
"Hair cut time.''
I'd hope SOME of those FA's (of ours) come back ...
Smith, O’Cal, maybe Edwards and Wiegmann … you forgot Vrabel, yes? or no? and we won’t mention my buddy Croyle :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Right 53, Right 54, Right 55, Right 56, Right 57.........
Right 58. Right 59, Right 60, Right 61, Right 62, Right 63, Right 64…………………………Right ……………………..
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A lot of young guys on the team I have hopes for
As solid depth if nothing else.
Tucker, Horne, O’Connell, Harris, Asamoah, Sheffield, M. Johnson, C. Greenwood, Cole and Bates.
To the post:
What position group(s) needs more attention?
The area that jumps out at me the most is O-line. Depth at tackle is a must and a few more guys for C/G camp competition wouldn’t hurt.
A lot depends on what they think of Daryl Harris and Rudy Niswanger.
Niswanger’s not the C we want, but he looks more like a G to me, anyway.
would of ≠ would've
I'd agree on Niswanger
I thought he looked pretty good the few times he played at guard.
Harris is one of those guys I seemingly randomly decide to pull for. Seems I end up with at least one per season. It would be nice to see him earn a spot this year. He must have shown them something, to be kept around after missing most of the year with an injury. I think he’s most likely a guard, but I seem to remember reports of him working at center before he got hurt last training camp.
I rooted for Lokey, McBride, and now that I'm rooting for Copper, he's prob'ly toast.
would of ≠ would've
I liked Lokey and McBride too
I still wonder if McBride might have stuck if Romeo had been here from the start. I thought he showed potential to make the transition pretty well.
I like Copper more than a lot seem to, but I do think his time is probably coming to an end. If Tucker or Horne show signs of developing as well as being solid special teams guys, I can’t really see a spot for him going forward.
I think there's room for him.
The injection of talent at WR and on the OL could be the tipping point for this good, all-around player.
I agree with what your take on McBride, also. I think he’d’ve looked better on a better team in that OLB role. But definitely on the DE side of the ‘tweener equation. I think he knew right where he needed to be. One of those players that might’ve looked better than his competitors on a team with more other things going right. At the same time, I think that Houston, Bailey and prob’ly Miller probably bring more LB quickness to the table, even before Bailey starts training for it, assuming he makes the LB attempt. I kinda have a feeling that Bailey would be better at the lighter weight, where he’d be uncommonly strong for a LB. I know I’d prefer to see THAT than see him getting run over in 5-tech, even though the team probably has more need for a true 3-4 5-tech, who’s as good or better than Smith and/or Dorsey on passing downs. That’d make Smith a true swing D-Lineman, and the Chiefs would be in pretty handsome shape. Give Edwards another season, while Bailey and Powe develop and they’re in a pretty enviable position short- and long-term.
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Guys on their way out
Justin Cole: showed little at OLB… Houston and Miller will push him off the roster again
Baktiari: I know nothing about this guy, but doubt he sticks
Chambers: Baldwin is a HUGE upgrade. they won’t keep his contract
Demorrio Williams: I’m not sure about this happening, but I’d welcome the change… I hope Cory Greenwood can replace him
of Curtis, Williams, Horne, Lawrence: I think 1 or 2 stick… I am rooting for Curtis.
I think the WR group could be Bowe, Baldwin, Urban, Tucker, Curtis and sometimes McCluster that’s a MUCH improved group!
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
guys not on the roster that won't be re-signed
Copper, Mays, Castille, Leggett, Croyle
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
guys not on the roster that should be re-signed
Edwards, Smith, O’Callaghan, Pope, Cottam, Battle, Niswanger
Bring these guys back, even if some don’t make the final roster… they are good “insurance policies”
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
the math
65 – 8 = 57 currently on the roster
57 + 7 = 64 returning players + draft picks
64 + 11 ( or so) UDFA (TBD)= 75
that leaves 5 spots for veteran Free Agents.
OH, and I forgot Casey…
so 4 other veteran FAs to sign:
Start with Ryan Harris, everything else is gravy
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
I'm really on the fence with both Pope and Cottam
Then Niswanger+Casey+Hudson+Hopefully a UDFA. I would prolly not resign Niswanger but have Hudson/UDFA brought up under Casey and have the flexibility I mentioned earlier
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, me too
at TE, obviously Moeaki is a stud, and I think O’Connell is really developing nicely as a blocker/ST guy.
I still think they need another guy, and I know they LOVE Pope, so I predict he’ll be back.
As for Cottam, I think they have to see what he can do when healthy in camp, and go from there.
Niswanger is another guy I think KC likes, and would be veteran depth… but if Kirkpatrick or another UDFA Center makes the team, there wouldn’t be room for Rudy
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
I also think that Bannon(If he makes the team)
Could be used as a blocking TE or if nothing else we could stick another linemen out there like we did last year quite often
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
There is a reason to be excited about almost every pick
Baldwin, Houston, Bailey, Brown, Bannon.. The names at least suggest we hit another home run draft
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I think so too
the only picks I wasn’t happy about at the time were Bailey and Miller… but I can see why they got em both.
overall, BIG upgrades to the pass rush, depth, blocking and of course #2 WR… I’m struggling now to define the remaining “needs”
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
They had to see something in Miller or we were just too high on some other names
I’m not too concerned about it considering he was picked late and at that point the draft really turns into a crapshoot
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
He seems to be lower-tier on speed, until you look at some of those other metrics Steve posted about.
He might even become an inside enforcer by the time this D’s identity takes shape. A high football IQ guy, with good size and acceleration.
would of ≠ would've
Waldo's numbers are great
We do have an influx in LB talent and it will be and interesting battle for the ‘thumper’ role between Belcher/Micah/now Miller then possibly Vrabel/Stude if Houston can take the SOLB spot and give us that much needed extra rushing threat
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 3, 2011 6:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Bannon has ball skills.
Don’t overlook him as a safety valve who’ll make a clutch catch, like Kevin Boss.
would of ≠ would've
So... what team needs are left?
I would have said WR, NT, C, SOLB, FB/TE, DB depth, backup QB and OT depth/upgrade were the main needs…
NOW… maybe a Slot WR, OT depth, and competition at SILB? backup RB?
Seriously, not that much left!
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
Back up RB/Oline depth
Have to wait to see the preseason to really figure it out.. paper looks pretty
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Really is amazing how far this team has came in 2 drafts
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 2, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It's at this point that Peterson ran out of ideas for improving the team.
I think Pioli knows how to keep the whole thing on the up-tick.
would of ≠ would've
Not only the roster
Also the coaching changes from RC to Zorn
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 3, 2011 6:21 AM CDT up reply actions
It started off a little rocky, but Haley's one voice has been the common theme.
And I think that’s the key, here. Sure, I love havin’ RAC, especially, but Haley was key to installing a true meritocracy. An evenhanded guy who has the same message for everybody. By far the majority of players want equal treatment, and resent when coaches cut one guy slack and ride another guy hard, because of mere personality considerations. Hell with that.
I’m OK with the guys who do their job to the best of their ability, and I have a problem with inconsistency or lack of effort. (Of course, if your ability level isn’t high enough, I’ll respectfully show you the door.). I think Marty and King Carl put up with shenanigans from certain players that they would never tolerate from certain other players. I think with Haley, it ain’t that way. Guys who expected to be given special treatment or engage in melodrama either got straightened out or shown the nearest exit.
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OT depth, SILB and RB for sure
Maybe a little more safety depth, even with Brown possibly working there as well as CB. Past that, it’s all about trying to improve the bottom of the roster.
Which all teams do develop the bottom of their roster
We look to be going in the right direction fairly quickly
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H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 3, 2011 6:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Awesome Steve. I've been waiting for a team chart like this. Highly Rec'd.
"The 3-4 defense is what the Giants used to play. There was a nose tackle, two defensive ends lined up on the tackles, two outside linebackers and then two [inside linebackers], both covering the guards. One of those linebackers is a fourth rusher. That is the 3-4 — the only 3-4 defense." ~Charlie Weis
An updated roster is on KCChiefs.com
A couple things I noticed:
- Miller is listed as a DE, along with Dorsey, Gilberry, Jackson, and Gales (very interesting)
- Bailey and Powe are listed as DL
- Edwards, Smith, and Toribio are listed as DT
- Bannon is listed as FB, along with Cox
- Castille is listed as RB along with Battle, Charles, and Jones
- Asamoah and Hudson are listed as OL
- Niswanger and Wiegmann are listed a C
- Harris, Lilja, and Waters are listed as G
- Albert, Greenwood, O’Callaghan, and Richardson are listed as T
It sounds like Bailey, Powe, Asamoah and Hudson will be used in a way that takes advantage of their versatility. I can’t wait until training camp (if/when there is actually a training camp) to see how the roster shapes up.
I was checking that out too
We have 14 LB’s listed + Vrabel makes 15 total.
I really thought it strange too that Miller is listed at DE weighing in at a svelte 257.
Houston was said to weigh 270 through the draft and the Chiefs list him at 258?
"Hair cut time.''
We do have a lot of LBs (which makes sense for a 3-4)
but I wish the roster would list who was OLB and who was ILB. We can make our best guess but it would be nice to see how the actual roster has them listed.
I’m really intrigued by Miller and Bailey. I really want to see how these two players fit into this team. It’s going to be interesting.
by Scott Phillips on May 2, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Am working on a post
I thought that was the most interesting question too.
A double down on SOLB or an upgrade at SILB and SOLB. Hell Houston might be Hali’s backup :(
"Hair cut time.''
A lot of those guys penciled-in at DE are sub-package, at best.
Think of them as playing upright DE in nickel packages. With Gilberry at DE, especially, I’m thinking that’s what he’s trying for, while Bailey starts out as inside pass rusher. Technically lining up as a DT in those packages, but not really what you’d call a DT in most circumstances.
I have no idea what’s up with Gales (of laughter).
would of ≠ would've
If you ever wonder over to the Jets, Patriots, and Ravens sites
you will see DL listed a lot. I think Gales, Gilberry, and now Bailey would be DL’s.
"Hair cut time.''
Definitions can get pretty slippery,
with all these different teams trying to make the best of what they have. Guys like Bailey are intriguing, because Crennel knows what to do with these Willie McGinest types.
I’m really intrigued to see Bailey’s weight class in the next 2-3-4-5-6-7 months. I kind of see him the way I see McCluster, in the way he packed on muscle and how he uses it on the playing field. It’s possible he’s one of those guys that is close to maxed-out on his own, and you can only screw it up by trying any major sculpting. I’m always leery of beefing guys up beyond what their frame can handle. Sometimes it can be tough for these guys to keep their knees ‘n’ ankles (or shoulders and elbows) intact at the greater weight.
would of ≠ would've
Didn't we have a post not too long ago
That showed the Jet’s, Ravens, Packers, Pats DL roster? Not everyone was listed correctly but it did show a difference
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 3, 2011 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions
We look to be headed in that direction
Dorsey
Jackson
Toribio
Gales
Bailey
Powe
Gilberry
need a few more
"Hair cut time.''
A few of those might not make it
We upgraded the secondary last year, now bolstered the front 7
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
H^2-Hali and Houston
by BAMFSpecialOps on May 3, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
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