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With the news on Phil Taylor...anybody else changing their minds?


I've been about as firmly in the Phil Taylor camp as anyone, but the info coming out about his feet is enough to change my mind.

http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/28589722

It's definitely a serious enough condition to affect his draft status.  Taylor was a reach at #21, but that could be overlooked because of need.  Now he becomes a huge reach for us in the first round.  With the lack of any other first round NT prospects, it looks like there are some of us who have some re-evaluating to do.

 

So Arrowhead Pride, what does the Phil Taylor medical report do for you?

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1. Akeem Ayers - OLB - UCLA:  When I watch Ayers play, I see a younger and more physically talented Mike Vrabel.  There are some big questions at the SOLB spot, and Ayers has the skill set, intelligence, and athleticism to answer them.  The criticisms on him are that he plays "soft".  I don't see that as much as I see a guy who reads the play and then attacks instead of committing with his first move.  I would like to see some more pre-snap reading ability from him, but Mike Vrabel (who I think will have one more season in KC) should be able to pass on some quality knowledge there.  I'd expect Ayers to compete with and quickly surpass Andy Studebaker for the starting role.

2. Jerrell Powe - NT - Ole Miss: Yes, Powe is absolutely a reach right here, but there is no way that he gets past Washington and San Fran in the 3rd.  The Chiefs are almost forced to make this pick.  When at his best (2009) he is a dominant player that shows everything you could want in a NT.  However, a down 2010, terrible Combine, and only slightly better Pro Day have caused his stock to take a dramatic fall.  Powe will have an uphill battle ahead of him to prove his worth, but he has shown the work ethic to do it. *Note* Phil Taylor may also be a consideration at this point.  I believe he will be drafted by the Jets or Cowboys before we draft in the 2nd.

3. John Moffitt - G/C - Wisconsin: Moved to G in his senior year, Moffitt actually has more experience as a C.  He is also on record as saying he would rather play C in the NFL.  He stated that he enjoys the mental challenges of calling schemes and pointing out defenses.  That's not a bad quality to have in your C.  He has versatility, which we all know the Chiefs like.  He comes from the Big Ten, so there is about a 90% guarantee that he loves to get physical.  He's definitely the kind of guy that could benefit a lot from Casey Wiegmann's teaching.  It's not too far-fetched to see him being ready to start by mid-season.  He also provides the Chiefs with more options with Jon Asamoah.

4. Ricky Stanzi - QB - Iowa: No QB showed the same kind of improvement that Stanzi did from 2009 to 2010.  The big criticism against him was that he threw a lot of interceptions...well that changed in 2010 as he had a TD-INT ratio very similar to our own Matt Cassel.  He provides a very similar skill set to Cassel and also flashes Farve-esqu leadership ability having led the Hawkeyes to numerous come from behind victories.  He could easily take Tyler Palko's job, and would be a contender for the #2 role.  Probably best suited to hold the clipboard for a season or two as the emergency 3rd QB.  Jim Zorn will love working with a guy like this.

5. Anthony Gray - NT - Southern Miss: Gray is a slight reach right here, but he is about as explosive as you could ask for from a NT.  The questions about Powe (or Taylor) make a second NT a strong investment.  Gray has the size and strength to be a physically dominating NT.  He needs to work on his technique and discipline though.  He tends to get caught with his mind set on only one objective.  He's definitely rough around the edges, but has a very high ceiling.

5. Tori Gurley - WR - South Carolina: Very strong and very smart.  Gurley is a possession receiver who knows how to find the sticks.  He's not the fastest or most athletic guy out there, but he has used that to his advantage.  Gurley does a lot of the things you expect out of a 3 year NFL veteran.  He makes himself difficult to tackle, falls forward, goes across the middle, uses his body to block defenders, gets physical in the run game, and finds holes in the zone.  Has lived in the shadows of previous South Carolina WRs which has limited his production.  He's not going to burn many DBs, so don't expect him to be a big downfield threat.

6. Alexander Green - RB - Hawaii: Green is a physical runner with big play ability.  He has the strength to break arm tackles and the speed to get past the second level.  However, he is more of a runner than he is a RB.  Has a lot of issues in the technical side of his game.  He carries the ball away from his body which makes him a constant fumbler, he shows poor vision in picking his holes, and does not commit himself to pass blocking.  Will more than likely be a situational back and Special Teams player until he shows he understands the position.

7. Mark Legree - FS - App State: A small school prospect who may end up being a quality NFL talent.  He has excellent range and ball skills.  Very much the center fielder type FS.  Shows good toughness in trying to separate the ball from the receiver.  He runs stiff though, which limits his ability to change directions and make adjustments.  Has never faced top level talent (including high school), so it's difficult to measure how good he really is.  Could be an immediate upgrade to the depth chart, or could be just another talented athlete who isn't really a football player.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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speaking of high ceiling..

Hampton NT Kenrick Ellis (6-4, 346; 69)
"Ellis has an explosive first step for his size and a thick, powerful upper body, and he is a powerful bull rusher who can drive interior offensive linemen back into the quarterback’s lap. He dominated at the FCS level the last two years, piling up 30 tackles for loss.

He could do a better job staying low with his first step, but Ellis shows the ability to hold ground against double-teams when he plays with proper pad level, and he is one of the few legitimate 3-4 nose tackles in the 2011 class.

Still, he compares favorably to Green Bay Packers DT Ryan Pickett and, because so few two-gap nose tackles are available, Ellis could come off the board earlier than his late-third-to-early-fourth-round grade, possibly to a team like the New York Jets or Kansas City Chiefs."

by fishhooks on Apr 17, 2011 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

"He dominated at the FCS level the last two years"

As any SEC football player should have. He’s played against vanilla competition so it’s been easy for him. He’s constantly had questions about his work ethic, effort, and dedication.

Won’t even get into the off the field issues (which are numerous).

Not interested.

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by citadelchief on Apr 17, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

but focus more on how dominant he was rather than just that he was dominant.

He wasn’t just dominant he was unstoppable. He does everything we need him to do.

by fishhooks on Apr 17, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Against who?

That’s the point. Yeah he was dominant, but against who?

And he also does everything that we don’t want him to do. I see a 300+ lbs Larry Johnson when I look at him.

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by citadelchief on Apr 17, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

i am pretty dominant in football too...

against good old grandpa in the retirement home.

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by MountainManMike on Apr 17, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'll stick with my mocks.

1) Ayers, OLB
2) Hankerson/Young, WR
3) Powe, NT
4) Stanzi, QB
5a) Fusco, C
5b) Gurley, WR
6) Gray, NT
7) Smith, TE/OT

or try to trade back. Probably try to trade back.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 17, 2011 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

not at all changing my mind ...

Derek Sherrod @ #21

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

whats the rest of your mock?

by Larryemcdaniel on Apr 17, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

upamtn traded the rest of the picks

for the Pat’s 7th round pick next year of course

Cassel out, Andrew Luck in!

by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 17, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Larry, I don't have a whole rest of a mock right now ...

… because it’s all so damned fluid once it starts, and so deep and convoluted after round 1 and 2 anyway … the important picks, I think, are first 2 or 3

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with Up's

I’m jumping on the Sherrod train again. This is a huge red flag for Taylor.

Although I think Kerrigan will be gone…if he isn’t I would actually be pretty disappointed if we passed on him.

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 17, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You could tell me Larry...

Why was Tyron playing RT at USC if he was ‘that’ good and Barkley wasn’t left-handed?

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 17, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea

Does it really matter though? He’s play RT for us. But i do think he’d be an excellent LT and a pro bowl one potentially in a couple years. Much better than Sherrod.

by Larryemcdaniel on Apr 17, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why is no one talking about Castonzo?

Thats most people’s 2nd rated OT. Love his experience and technique. Sherrod is typically the 4th-5th rated.

by Larryemcdaniel on Apr 17, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cause Castonzo is strictly a LT candidate

and before you talk about Carimi he is strictly a RT candidate

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 17, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep Carimi is strictly RT

Not so certain about Castonzo being pigeon holed at LT.

by Larryemcdaniel on Apr 17, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a great Run Blocker as of right now

but maybe

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 17, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

but he struggles more with speed

And on the right are the power rushers. Its a trade off.

by Larryemcdaniel on Apr 17, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now you're pigeonholing

Good Defensive coordinators will capitalize on an opponents weakness. There will be speed rushers coming on the right, we do that with Tamba all the time.

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by ChiefWarPaint on Apr 17, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

We pick up 2 real receivers and cassel learns what progression means

And they can send whomever they want and they’ll get hurt with the quick slant.

We need receivers on offense more than anything else on offense.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 17, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also agree

But who knows when we’ll find another real Receiver, and with Zorn coaching Cassel up, we’ll at least see him check-down frequently.

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by ChiefWarPaint on Apr 18, 2011 3:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was just curious...wasn't knocking on him

I’d rather have a guy that could compete for RT and play LT if something were to happen to Albert. Whomever fits that best….I want him!

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 17, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh I know

I have no idea actually. lol never thought about it. Maybe ill sniff around and see. Theres prob a good reason.

by Larryemcdaniel on Apr 17, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tyron and Sherrod would probably be the two most flexible OT

Sherrod quickly but Tyron with the better upside at a stunning 20 years old

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 17, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Larry, ain't NOBODY better in this year's draft than Sherrod

at least in terms of OLine

you will not change my mind on that … some might be bigger, some might be heavier, some might be taller or have bigger arms or fancier footwork, but for the complete package … including mental and character and intelligence and leadership and current skillset and etc etc ad nauseum … Sherrod wins my vote every time

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ryan Kalil's brother is the left tackle there

and he is a top 5-10 pick in next year’s draft

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Draft
1: Phil Taylor
2: Brooks Reed
3:Jake Kirkpatrick
4: Austin Pettis
5:Marcus Gilbert
5:Tim Barnes
6:Nathan Enderle

by Rockhurstdude on Apr 17, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, it bothers the hell out of me. A bad NT pick at 21 could fuck the Chiefs line up for

years. Phil Taylor is off my board now…but I havn’t decided which way to go yet.

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by TheK-man on Apr 17, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe this feet thing explains why

he was dominated in one on one situations against Oklahoma this year which wasn’t the first time but the worst). Or maybe that was scheme..or maybe he is overratted.

by fishhooks on Apr 17, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Never liked Taylor with the 21 pick.

Ellis or Powe in round 2 or 3
or
Neild or Williams or Gray in round 5

by Mustang fever on Apr 17, 2011 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

OR

Neild+Gray in round 5 rotation FTW

Cassel out, Andrew Luck in!

by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 17, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah changing to Akeem Ayers

That would suck.

I would like a Royale with Cheese

by ChiefWarPaint on Apr 17, 2011 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

value sucks for our needs

No wr at 21 no nt at 21 and no c unless pouncey falls.
At this point I hope reed or kerrigan fall they appear to be a solid safe pick. I think rt can wait a few rounds. I would hate it but dalton makes sense here if they really like him. Again, I just don’t want to reach which pioli wont so if a cb or even rb is taken and they feel it is best player on the board I support it.

by onthereg on Apr 17, 2011 3:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Somebody will fall.

I’m not sure who, but there will be somebody available at 21 who wasn’t expected to be. At that point we may find Pioli taking a player we weren’t expecting, or find ourselves in a good position to trade back and let someone else take them (for the right price).

by MtHammer on Apr 17, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not particularly interested in Ayers so early, TBH

Of course, I usually dislike the player KC ends up drafting in the first, with a few exceptions (Berry, DJ, Dorsey), so it’s all but assured that Ayers will be the pick.

On the other hand, Pioli’s batting .500 in the first round since taking the wheel, as far as I’m concerned. He made an obvious and justifiable pick in Berry a year after he made the ridiculous and unjustifiable pick in Jackson.

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by burntorangehorn on Apr 17, 2011 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Just can't see taking taylor at 21

Seems like too much of a reach for a NT shooting up the “experts” draft boards. I can’t see him rising up the KC draft boards, probably still rated a 2nd rounder. It’s definitely shaping up to be a pick that we’re gonna be stuck thinking about till next thursday.

by SacramentoDrew on Apr 17, 2011 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

citadel..

Your mock is one of the top 3 I’ve seen on AP..

Love it!

My 'kick ass' draft..

(21) Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
(55) Jerrell Powe NT Ole Miss
(86) Edmund Gates WR Abl. Christ.
(118) Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU
(135) Owen Marecic FB Stanford
(139) Pat Devlin QB Delaware
(199) Kealoha Pilares WR Hawaii
(223) Lee Smith TE Marshall

by chiefsfan62 on Apr 17, 2011 3:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Of course, I’m probably about as far from right as anybody.

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by citadelchief on Apr 17, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

4th round is too eary for a QB

A number 2 WR is way more important than a backup QB with limited potential. I do think a QB will be taken, but not til the 6th or 7th round.

by Royals Time on Apr 17, 2011 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

6th or 7th rd QB

The only one I see being of any value that late is Scott Tolzien from Wisconsin.

I had Stanzi listed as a 5th for a long time, but his stock has risen and I think it’s going to be close as to whether or not he’d be available there.

WR is important, but this is a deep draft for talent there. A lot of mid to late round pics fit what we’re looking for. And there is a pretty large and talented FA pool as well. This is actually one of the easier positions for us to fill this offseason.

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by citadelchief on Apr 17, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he is available... WILKERSON!

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by averagegatsby on Apr 17, 2011 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

and gatsby KNOWS tacos!

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt he's available.

I have a hard time seeing him get past New England.

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by citadelchief on Apr 17, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

And to think I was killed for taking him for NE in the AP mock draft.

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by averagegatsby on Apr 17, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

It all depends on how they play it.

I see the Patriots trading up and walking away with both Wilkerson and Kerrigan. The rich get richer.

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by citadelchief on Apr 17, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, they can't have everybody, and I think they might go back to the well on the O-Line.

It’s just really hard to say, beyond my basic belief that there’ll be plenty of good value @ #21. I mean, if all the linemen get snapped up, maybe Amukamara slips to #21, where HE would be a very good value. No matter how tightly those first 20 pickers squeeze, there’s going to be some real value where we’re pickin’.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Apr 17, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like Benjamin Ijalana, Danny Watkins, or Rodney Hudson at #33?

That’s another issue. They can take BPA with their first two picks and still upgrade their o-line early.

The rich get richer.

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by citadelchief on Apr 18, 2011 5:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Freakin Patriots

They’ll be good for another decade

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 18, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have the Patriots ever traded up in the draft?

I can’t conceivably see them trading up… They are all about quantity in the draft.

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by averagegatsby on Apr 17, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they pick their spots.

And at some point, how many rookies can you use at one time? Maybe trading up makes sense for ’em at some point.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Apr 17, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scott Pioli never drafted a Safety early...

Until he did.

Their past is only an adequate measure of their past.

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by citadelchief on Apr 18, 2011 5:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

But Pioli had drafted the best player available before

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by averagegatsby on Apr 18, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's my point.

Pioli has done lots of things, and not one of them provides adequate insight into what he’s going to do. Otherwise, he really wouldn’t be that effective as a GM. That’s probably one of his better traits, he’s unpredictable.

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by citadelchief on Apr 18, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's the biggest deal in the world

Like I said in the other post his “weight problems” are severely blown out of proportion.

by RamX21 on Apr 17, 2011 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

How about Jake Locker? I think this kid will be a very good pro. We need a back up

QB, so stock the roster with talent as it comes. At WR, Baldwin, either Sherrod and Constanzo would be fine choices as well. We may see a very good LB or CB fall into our pick. Lotsa smoke screens this time of year and for you poor misguided Taylor devotees to role over and quit your man love is a pathetic thing to see. Could Ellis sneak in here? Or we could trade up into the top 10 for a really good player. So many ways to go and we know so little. Wait one, I figured it out. I will download pictures and pin them up on the wall, blindfold myself and throw a dart and Voila! we will then know how the team will choose.

by dubld on Apr 17, 2011 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I do like the mock, Citadel

I’m not too concerned with Taylor. I still believe that NT is one of our bigger needs, and Taylor is a legitimate 1st round talent and the best prospect at the respective position; if the Chiefs deem him healthy enough to draft, I’m happy. If they pass on him, then so be it.

Ayers would be an instant upgrade at SOLB, and would take him in an instant over any of the potential 1st round tweener OLBs, including Kerrigan, Houston, and Reed. But if we take Taylor, or possibly a WR or center in the 1st, I’ll take Acho in the 2nd for SOLB, as I am starting to believe he is the 2nd strongest prospect for SOLB behind Ayers.

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by RememberDelaney37 on Apr 17, 2011 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

A lot of you like Ayers, and he is a special athlete.

I think it’s important to have a guy with his quicks, but my preference is for a guy with good quicks who’ll go through you if he can’t get around you. I like a little more of that in a player, and I think that Sam Acho is probably built more for that than Ayers, and can be picked up in the 2nd round.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Apr 17, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Newest Mock

Round 1 – Derek Sherrod – OT – Best Pplayer available
Round 2 – Sam Acho – OLB – Is everything we look for in a player AND fits a need
Round 3 – Jerrel Powe – NT – 2 gap NT that can hold his position
Round 4 – Tim Barnes – C – Fits a need with great value in the 4th round
Round 5 – Owen Marecic – FB – Starts on ST’s from day one and gives us great versatility
Round 5 – Greg Salas – WR – Great hands, physical, perfect slot guy.
Round 6 – TJ Yates – QB – Zorns project
Round 7 – Jeff Maehl – WR – Highly productive WR w/ speed that is used to big stage

I’d throw the farm at Aubrayo Franklin and give us a chance to make a little run next year. Franklin could bridge that gap that we all see over the next two years while we develop our young players. he gives us a chance to compete in the immediate future.

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 17, 2011 6:09 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Very, very nice..

I really like Salas – projects to be a terrific slot guy!

My 'kick ass' draft..

(21) Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
(55) Jerrell Powe NT Ole Miss
(86) Edmund Gates WR Abl. Christ.
(118) Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU
(135) Owen Marecic FB Stanford
(139) Pat Devlin QB Delaware
(199) Kealoha Pilares WR Hawaii
(223) Lee Smith TE Marshall

by chiefsfan62 on Apr 17, 2011 9:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

thanks CF62

I like what I have seen from Salas. Seems to catch everything in traffic.

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-- Samuel Johnson

by BJ Kissel on Apr 17, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baj, this looks AWESOME and full of WIN x 7

addresses needs, great value at every turn … I’m calling Pioli right now and INSISTING that you be made head of scouting dept!

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd need to take Larry, Kalo, and Mills with me

I now kinda know how to look at my precious youtube videos and understand what traits we need for what positions :)

Be honest….I had you at Sherrod :)

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 17, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Steve

just don’t tell him that you DON’T plan on taking Ingram

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Steve....someone has to keep it all organized

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-- Samuel Johnson

by BJ Kissel on Apr 17, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, but you sealed the deal with Barnes
Be honest….I had you at Sherrod :)

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like it

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-- Samuel Johnson

by BJ Kissel on Apr 17, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still want Taylor...

Just trade down (maybe twice) and grab him in the second round. :)

But whatever Pioli does I’m happy with. I like Powe a lot, too, but I think he’ll go higher in the third than we pick, if not the second. Maybe if they can trade down they will get another pick in the late second to grab him with…

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by nmchief on Apr 17, 2011 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm thinking the Jets will still grab him in the 1st.

He’d be a definite reach…but Rex Ryan is a FTW kinda guy. He’ll do what he wants and tell you about how awesome it makes him.

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by citadelchief on Apr 18, 2011 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

No need to trade down.. or anything else.

It’s the usual yearly draft time shenanigans of coaches, scouts, and personnel people:

This Link : Says that the previous story about Taylors feet is bogus.

I’ll take the word of Pro Football Talk over CBS sports… or will I.

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by Texas Chief on Apr 17, 2011 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Really doesn't matter to the Chiefs or the Jets

who people mock draft for them.

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 17, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just came into post this

I may have to make a Fanpost in response.

Something along the lines of, “Don’t Jump the Gun.”

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by ChiefWarPaint on Apr 17, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Makes you wonder who wants him to fall. Let’s see, which team is known for dirty, underhanded draft tactics..? Oh right! All of ’em.

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by Brsrkr on Apr 18, 2011 3:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw that story.

The only thing though, is that Rob Rang claims to have confirmed his story with another source…

Of course, Rang could just be full of it, trying to keep pace with the other media types. For the purposes of a mock draft though, I’ll buy the story. If the Chiefs do take him, I’ll happily admit that I was suckered. If not, I’ll assume the story is true and be fine with it.

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by citadelchief on Apr 18, 2011 5:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be happy with Taylor, Ayers, Sherrod, Reed...just about anybody in the late 1st round

Pioli’s going to pick who he wants. I want Taylor, but why complain over another quality player?

Love to see Pioli trade down somewhere and pick up either Torrey Smith, Brooks Reed, Phil Taylor, or even a RB like Mark Ingram should he fall that far due to his knees. All good choices IMO.

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by shotty on Apr 17, 2011 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I was with you until you started talkin' about Ingram.

I’ll be pretty bummed and it’ll take me a month to rationalize it, the way I did Dex, if Ingram is selected by the Chiefs.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Apr 17, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha he is not my first choice, Steves maybe, not mine

but he is a complete back and a real workhorse. I wouldn’t be upset with the decision even though I think we have greater needs to fill.

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by shotty on Apr 17, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they established a base-level performance, and now it's all about the force-multiplier positions.

Our LBs are OK and they would be GOOD with more dominant line or one more 1-on-1 DB. Our RBs are very good and would be better with either OL or WR upgrade. Basically take what they established last year and plug in one or two guys on each side of the ball that win 1-on-1s where we weren’t, before.

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by hmills110 on Apr 17, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the RB will be better with new additions to the line

Since we run a ZBS it requires lineman that work together in unison, and that’s why First Round picks on OL for teams that run a ZBS are rare. They usually have to develop and get the reps in theory so they can execute in practice. Otherwise your first round pick is waiting to start mid-season.(Of course there are exceptions to the rule, like finding a premium LT)

I expect us to draft a OL later on like we did with Asamoah, possibly Moffit or O’Dowd(Or a Center/Guard in the 2nd since this draft is pretty bare in the cupboard), and a developmental RT to usurp and provide competition with B-Rich. I don’t see us replacing Lilja anytime soon though.

Now on to Ingram I would like the pick(As long as we traded back and got and early 2nd), one reason is I’m a Bama fan, another is he’d be a great RB in our ZBS. He has all the qualities that you would want in a ZBS back.
1. ELITE Patience and Vision, an underrated and often overlooked quality for any RB coming out of the draft, and Ingram has these qualities moreso then any other back in the draft. This is doubly important for a ZBS Back because they have to be able to wait for a hole to open up. This is partially the reason why Jamaal is so wildly successful with us.
2. Definite cutback ability, and can find the crease in traffic and,
3. Hit the hole very hard, and doesn’t go down after first touch
4. Smarts to run the play called, and not be frustrated and bounce outside(Which ties in with my first point)

I’d liken a JC/MI tandem to Carolina’s in its heyday.

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by ChiefWarPaint on Apr 17, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

A new face on starting lineup

gives a chance for better pass pro. A bump in that category helps the entire offense, maybe not directly, but by moving the chains more, the RBs get extra opportunities. And there were a few games where the KC offense had a few big plays but was pretty anemic the majority of the time.

So I’ll disagree with you on this one. I think they do more for the running game and offense in general by upgrades on the front line and on the edge. Even small improvements in both groups could have a dramatic impact on the whole offense. But I don’t see a high pick on an RB having the same effect.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Apr 17, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not immediately

Which was the whole point of my argument. There’s a reason Bulaga took so long to crack the Packers starting lineup, and that’s because in a ZBS it requires lineman to work in unison. A new face will not help us(unless its a vet) because they don’t know the pro game or the ZBS system well enough to even be of any help.

The RBs will be getting oppurtunities no matter what, whether we’re moving the chains or not. That’s something that I can guarantee will happen. So why not upgrade the position with basically, a younger better version of Thomas Jones that can learn the pro game from the current Thomas Jones?

I agree that Lineman are important, I’m not disputing that, but what I am saying is that by the time that new face is ready to play, the season will already be half over. There are always exceptions to the rule, but you don’t gamble on exceptions in the first. Running backs by trade are ready from the get go, and don’t usually need growth, especially Ingram.

Look I don’t really want Ingram in the first either, but I can understand why we would pick him instead of say an offensive lineman.

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by ChiefWarPaint on Apr 17, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think realistically Ayers, Taylor, and Sherrod are all being discussed, in the front office but I like Ayers I think he is just a really solid LB

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1. Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
2. Kenrick Ellis NT Hampton
3. Edmund Gates WR Abilene Christian
4. Joseph Barksdale OT LSU
5. Ian Williams NT Notre Dame
5. Cecil Shorts WR Mount Union
6. Mario Fannin RB Auburn
7 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland

by IamtheGreatest on Apr 17, 2011 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't make up mind on my mock

which do you guys like? First post or second post

Float like a butterfly, and sting like a bee!

1. Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
2. Jonathan Baldwin WR Pitt
3. Jerrel Powe NT Ole Miss
4. Joseph Barksdale OT LSU
5. Ian Williams NT Notre Dame
5. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU
6. Mario Fannin RB Auburn
7 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland

by IamtheGreatest on Apr 17, 2011 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I actually hate Sigs like that

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 17, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

thanks for the feedback

Float like a butterfly, and sting like a bee!

1. Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
2. Jonathan Baldwin WR Pitt
3. Jerrel Powe NT Ole Miss
4. Joseph Barksdale OT LSU
5. Ian Williams NT Notre Dame
5. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU
6. Mario Fannin RB Auburn
7 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 18, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand OT in first...or even our first five or so picks.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 17, 2011 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

if they want a passing game, they should:

1) get a qb who knows and practices “progression.”
2) get some wide receivers.

those two things would do a lot more than an OT.
You can have all the time in the world to pass, but if the qb is staring down one receiver, who btw, has 3 guys covering him, the defense will eventually get either the sack or an interception.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 18, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can have a QB who makes his progressions and some great WRs.

Doesn’t matter if the QB is on his back.

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by citadelchief on Apr 18, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

he won't be if he does those two things.

Peyton Manning doesn’t even have great receivers (outside of Wayne) and he makes it happen.

On the flip side, Cassel had an all-pro line and all-pro receivers in NE and he still got sacked more in NE than he did in KC. I’ve yet to hear someone properly and effectively explain that one.

It is always KC’s line. Then it is the line AND the crappy receivers. Yet in NE, he had probowlers galore at both spots and still got sacked more.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 18, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because we ran the ball a whole lot more than New England did?

Rush attempts:
556 (2010 KC) vs 513 (2008 NE)

Pass attempts:
475 (2010 KC) vs 534 (2008 NE)

Sacks:
32 (2010 KC) vs 48 (2008 NE)

Now, these stats don’t take into account the strategical changes that the defenses had in place. Obviously, against New England, no one was too worried about the run game, so they attacked the (inexperienced) QB to force bad passes. Against Kansas City, teams had to be more focused on the #1 rushing offense in the league. There are quite a few variables there that really have some long-reaching effects.

If I really had the time, I’d conduct a study into it. But, as this fan post is already off of the front page, I’m sure most people will forget all about it soon enough…it’s an interesting study though.

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by citadelchief on Apr 18, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

the problem is, that doesn't really explain the sacks...

if your premise is “we need a new RT because the line is bad and Cassel get’s sacked a lot.”

Again, Cassel had a PRO BOWL, TALENTED OFFENSIVE LINE IN NE. He had talented, play-making receivers in NE. And he got sacked more in NE. While you can account for some of those sacks coming in NE ecause of running more passing plays, it doesn’t adequately explain the sacks.

Now, if your premise is, like mine: “Cassel is the common denominator of the high sack totals, not offensive line or number of passing plays,” then things make a lot more sense. While I would also argue that he needs receivers here, he still held onto the ball too long in NE. That, not the number of passing plays, explains the high sacks.

If we simply crunch those numbers to see what the passing attempt/sack rate was, we find out that in KC, Cassel got sacked 1 time out of every 14.84 passing attempts. In NE, Cassel got sacked 1 time out of every 11.13 passing attempts.

Using those numbers, we can see that had Cassel in KC, in 2010, attempted 534 passes, at those 2010 projections, he would have been sacked 36 times, or 12 times less than he did in NE in 2008 in 534 passes.

On the flipside, had Cassel only passed 475 times in NE in 2008, he would have still been projected at 43 sacks. 5 less than he actually had, 11 more than he had this year, and 7 MORE TIMES THAN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN PROJECTED TO IN 2010 WITH 534 PASSING ATTEMPTS.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 19, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

and before you just reply and reguritate the whole

“but they threw more than us so defenses played each team differently,” let me point out that the differences of passing attempts between 2010 Chiefs and 2008 Pats is three. That ’s it. 3 attempts per game. Not very significant. Definitely not enough for defenses to play a team different.

Those stat splits may look significant over 16 games, but per game averages show how insignificant they actually were.

So, how does the fact that KC ran the ball 3 times in place of NE passing 3 times, really affect a defense?

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 19, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was wrong..

*So how does the fact that KC ran the ball 2 times in place of NE passing 3 times (NE had one more attempt/gm than KC) really affect a defense?

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 19, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you play the Colts, are you worried about Donald Brown or Peyton Manning?

When you play the Panthers, are you worried about DeAngelo Williams or Jimmy Clausen?

You address the biggest threat of the other team. That’s why the Raiders and Broncos played 8 in the box against us. They didn’t care what Cassel did, they focused on stopping the run game.

Why send a CB blitz against Adrian Peterson? Why collapse the middle against Drew Brees?

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by citadelchief on Apr 19, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

i understand your analogy, but I seem to remember joseph addai (not brown) killing a defense that was playing

for the pass.

and that is the difference. if you take away the passing game against the colts, they can still run.

if you take the passing game away from the patriots, they can still run. if you take away the passing game from the chargers, they can still run.

So if that is the direction we’re going, then apparently we need to replace our QB, or as I have said, get him some receivers.

being a two-dimensional offense is a necessity, as shown by last year’s shortcomings. You seem to be arguing my point: we need receivers, and we need Cassel to learn what WR progressions are.

This isn’t an offensive line thing. It is a QB/WR thing.
I’m not going to throw a fit if we go C or OT in round 1, but I would be surprised if we drafted an OT in round 1. There are more pressing needs on offense than a RT.

But it is either on Cassel, needing more receivers, both, or the offensive line. But as the numbers showed, Cassel always had high sack numbers.

But now you’re arguing that defenses play defense based on reputation?

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 20, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are changing the point completely.

You asked why teams change their defenses according to the offense they faced. I answered that.

You don’t scheme for Donald Brown or Joseph Addai. You shceme for Peyton Manning. He is the primary threat. Have you ever heard of a team that attacks the run and forces Peyton to beat them? No, because that would be idiotic. You attack Manning and try to force their running game to beat you.

There is a complete change in defense based on the opponent. Everything changes even throughout the game. That’s why teams watch film. They want to know tendencies. They want to know strengths. They want to know weakenesses. And then they gameplan for all of those things.

You don’t just take 11 guys and stick them on the field and hope for the best. You gameplan. And that gameplan is going to be based on the matchups and scenarios you want to create.

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by citadelchief on Apr 20, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like this debate

Obviously teams ignore Cassel and plan on stopping the Chiefs running game for the win. I think the Center is a moot point since we need one regardless. I would take better WR’s over a better OT everytime.

Or the Nuclear option, get a QB that the defense can’t ignore and then run it down their throats :)

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 20, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be honest

I put WR ahead of OT as well…for what we need at this point in time.

But, in general, I prefer a strong offensive line that is going to give the QB time over having another new weapon.

We have the weapons. Most teams in the NFL would kill to have a Charles and a Bowe on the same roster. Add Jones, Moeaki, and McCluster to that and we’re actually pretty spoiled here in KC. 4 of our top offensive playmakers have been in the league for 5 or less years.

What we need is to get younger and stronger at C (probably G as well), a defense that gets the other team off the field, and some quality depth to strengthen the roster as a whole.

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by citadelchief on Apr 20, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

probably a position of depth that would be an important for a run-first team

and the fact that we have no depth there now

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 17, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

richardson did okay blocking the run.

we’re discounting the ability of coaches to coach, apparently. It isn’t like the guy didn’t improve throughout the season.

We may not have depth there, but that doesn’t excuse using the 21st pick on a guy that would be depth anyway. Other places and rounds to find depth and competition at RT.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 18, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're assuming the #21 pick would step in and start right away?

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 18, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming the current starter will remain the starter at RT.

you don’t draft career depth players in the 1st. that’s what we call a bust.

if he is drafted in the 1st, yeah he better be starting, or starting within a year.

Name a 1st round pioli draft pick that didn’t start his rookie season.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 18, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm....don't know

Who do you take that starts right away this year?

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 18, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

the second round WR I draft after trading back....

like I said,

if he is drafted in the 1st, yeah he better be starting, or starting within a year.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 19, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe because they want to be able to run AND pass

and block opposing DLine and LBs and control the LOS as much as possible (because after all, that’s where the game is won or lost)

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by upamtn on Apr 17, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say they did a pretty good job last year running AND passing.

Where they seemed to not do well was

at the receiving end and play calling.
Third down efficiency sucked. All the defense had to do was cover Bowe and Moeaki and that was that.

It is amazing what adding a couple decent receivers and a qb actually going through progressions will do. No, I don’t buy the argument that Cassel didn’t go through progressions because he didn’t have time to.

You stop the blitz by burning the defense when they blitz. You have to have a good receiving corp to do that.

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 18, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a good chance an OT would be BPA at 21.

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by Brsrkr on Apr 18, 2011 3:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

that doesn't mean it would be the best thing to do. Trade, Trade, Trade!

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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 18, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Close to perfect

Dallas jumps back up to get CB Brandon Harris or Jimmy Smith. We get #40, #71 and #176.

R2 #40 LB Martez Wilson-Illinois
R2 #54 NT Jerrell Powe-Mississippi
R3 #71 C/G Rodney Hudson-FSU
R3 #87 FS Quinton Carter-Oklahoma
R4 #118 WR Greg Little-N. Carolina
R5 #135 OT Joesph Barksdale-LSU
R5 #138 FB Owen Macrec-Stanford
R6 #176 LB Mario Harvey-Marshall
R6 #199 WR Ceceil Shorts-Mt Union
R7 #223 WR Armon Binns-Cincinnati

by 102win on Apr 18, 2011 1:27 AM CDT reply actions  

not sure hudson would still be there

not sure 3 WR’s makes sense when you already know they all won’t make the team.

But Wilson, Powe, Hudson is a great start. Using some of those later picks to trade up and secure those three guys is alright with me.

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 18, 2011 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Akeem Ayers is a 2nd round talent at best. Phil Taylor has too many concerns. (character, medical) Our best options are in this order.

1. Trade Down
2. BPA

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