Kalo's Knockdown: Glenn Dorsey

Belcher and DJ really didn’t do anything to fill that gap, but it’s hard to get after them when it’s that wide. And on top of it, the second blocker for Dorsey really didn’t need to do much…he just put the kibosh on the pancake.

And Big Ron fading down the stretch.

Of course, I could be wrong… looks like Kalo will let me know soon enough.

The second blocker in the double team didn’t really need to give him the shove, as he was already bulldozed out of the play. Most of the examples I have of his failure to anchor are on the backside of a camera angle and don’t give a clear view. This one did, so I used it.

As far as that goes, just being doubled doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve done your job. Usually, a DE or NT will anchor and won’t get shoved out of the way, creating a giant gap, like this example showed. Again, the team tries very hard to make sure Dorsey doesn’t have to deal with a consistent double team, and his ability to get into the backfield and/or handle a single team is what makes him our most effective run stuffer.

I wouldn’t trade Dorsey for a guy like Rubin at this point.

Most of the examples that I had noted in my season breakdowns were away from the ball, and the camera angle wasn’t such that I could point to it and have it clearly seen. My basic point was that he does tend to get overpowered and doesn’t get anchored well enough, and that it can be a weakness, although the team tries to avoid it.

If the NT has one A gap does an ILB have the other? and which ILB?

I don’t like it…and I was frankly a little scared when Haley mentioned that he thought he could run it.

If I had to choose, I prefer the second option. Let’s get a true widebody and not force Dorsey into something that puts his true talents even farther away.

Fixing…thanks, wookie.

Yes, as I’ve said several times, Glenn is more of a “straight ahead” defender. He’ll fire off the line and try and get into the backfield every time, but when the situation calls for him to hold his ground, he’s a fish out of water. Thanks for putting it into a more detailed comment!

What jumps out at ME is that Dorsey’s trying to play 2-gap, and he’s made the transition, but what he lacks to go with it is the bull rush. I like the way you described it more intelligently. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t know how to use his hands to keep the lineman from getting into his body.

To me, it looks like a guy who’s forfeiting his one advantage, which is to pick a gap and shoot it. He is properly honoring the coaching and it takes 2 guys to keep him from being able to fill to either side of any one man in front of him. But when you’re honoring the 2 gaps, you should be getting upfield PUSH against any one guy in your face, because straight ahead and simultaneously keeping your one guy from forcing you to ONE side means that the 2-gap lineman as a pass rusher needs enough lead in his ass to walk his opposite number back QUICKLY toward the QB.

Dorsey doesn’t do that, although I would say that if he’s single-blocked, you better take a wide berth around him. His weakness is that you can keep him from getting up the field on passing downs, unless he’s been freed to shoot the gap. In this 3-tackle front, you don’t want 4-3 DTs losing their feet and giving up escape lanes. Almost-sacks that result in a lot of extended plays will KILL you on the back end, and with Hali selling-out (as his job description), Dorsey is the big man keeping things honest on that weak side. He’s KEEPING his feet and, 1-on-1, he’s honoring both his gaps, which is paramount. And any time the offense uses 2 hats to move him out of the way, he’s doing his job, imo.

So, to MY imperfect eye, Dorsey’s a very talented under tackle who’s doing a very serviceable job at RDE, and his only real weakness is he gets stood up and stalled out, because he can’t simultaneously honor his gaps AND force the blocker back into the QB. This is a pure lead-in-the-ass, straight-ahead power issue.

I think his height IS a disadvantage as a wall-forming DE on passing downs. He has to leave his feet in order to give the QB much problem throwing over him. It’s something Jackson can do while he takes his “choppy steps,” but Dorsey’s obliged to leave his feet and elevate, and the second he leaves his feet to get in the way of the pass, he has no leverage, as you say. And maybe you’re seeing it better than I do. I make the distinction between that and just pure bull rush. And maybe you’re noticing him leaving his feet, and are interpreting it one way, whereas I’m seeing a guy that didn’t get much push beFORE he took his best shot at affecting the play/pass and went up for the ball. He just wasn’t very far up the field beFORE you saw him leave his feet, and it was this lack of initial penetration that highlighted what happened later, to YOUR eyes.

But I’ll get to them soon enough.

In the base 3-4 and the nickel. We saw a little of that with Hali switching sides. Trouble with that was the guy in Hali’s place wasn’t Hali. Chiefs are in a good year to get another very good ’tweener or two, without having to make a 1st-round Kerrigan pick, and slowly upgrade NT without having to make a 1st-round Taylor pick.

If not, it should be .