Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 3/15

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Mar 15, 2011 7:16 AM CDT

Good morning. A light day for Kansas City Chiefs news. I've included a couple of CBA updates (can't get enough of those, right?) and there is a look at what Weis is up to in Florida. Enjoy.

If selecting 21^st the NFL Draft is known for anything, it might be movement.

Sitting on or around the 21^st pick has traditionally been a good place to swing a deal should a team choose to explore that route. If not, teams sitting on number 21 can take comfort in the recent history surrounding the pick. It's arguable that the draft position is hitting over 80% since 2000.

Hitting on 21 from The Mothership

And that brings me to the entire evaluation process that NFL teams go through with players that will be available for the Draft each year. With 32 teams, I'm going to tell you there are 32 different formulas for divining the potential of college football players. But as I went about researching the subject, I found almost universal agreement among personnel types on what the evaluation pie should look like. Some personnel directors and scouts professed one area was of a bit more importance than another, but the difference were in the splitting of hairs category.

After piecing it together, here's a pie chart on the average evaluation process used by most NFL teams:

The Evaluation Pie... Tuesday Cup O'Chiefs from Bob Gretz

Before losing his first game at Florida, Weis was in his first no-win situation in Gainesville. Pick your viral poison: Take the picture and Weis, with a girl on each arm, would have been a trending topic from here to Tuscaloosa. Refuse the picture and Florida's own trash you from here to Knoxville. Lord knows the man has had worse things said about him, but when family is involved, it gets personal. No matter what you've heard or read, that's why Weis is here, at age 54, making what looks like a lateral move, at best, after leaving the Kansas City Chiefs.
Family Man Weis is Picture of Contentment at Florida from CBS Sports

Apparently, he wasn't on the same page with NFL negotiator Jeff Pash. After the talks broke down Friday, Pash gave a detailed review of what he said the NFLPA turned down. Vrabel wasn't buying it.

"I thought you were going to come in with the slow clap and someone say, ‘The Oscar goes to ... Jeff Pash.'
Mike Vrabel Takes on NFL Negotiator from ESPN

At least nine National Football League scouts came to The University of Montana campus on Monday afternoon to scout Grizzly seniors for the upcoming draft...

...Scouts present were from the Carolina Panthers, Cleveland Browns, Indianapolis Colts, Kansas City Chiefs...

NFL Scouts at Washington - Grizzly Stadium from The Kaimin

The prospects of an expanded regular-season schedule are even more remote than labor negotiations between the NFL and its players.

Kevin Mawae, the president of the now-decertified NFL Players Association, said the 18-game slate heavily pushed by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell as part of a new collective bargaining agreement "never will be" accepted by his group.

"Eighteen games is not going to happen through NFL player negotiations," Mawae said Monday afternoon during an NFLPA conference call. "We can't justify that for the health and safety of our players."

NFLPA Rejects 18-Game Season from FOX Sports

The front page of the Saturday morning New York Post read Death Wave, depicting the horror and terror of the disaster in Japan. The picture under the headline showed a house burning in the aftermath of the destruction due to an earthquake that registered to the horrific tune of an 8.9.

The back page, a place where the toy department normally calls home, told a much different story. On the day of this gruesome national disaster, New Yorkers awoke to a picture of a frowning DeMaurice Smith and a confused Roger Goodell. The NFL logo was perfectly placed in between. The white headline was captured perfectly in white bold letters against the black backdrop and screamed one singular and perfect word - GREED! The millionaires and the billionaires couldn't find a way to share. Now that's pathetic.

NFL Fans Have Every Right to be Angry from FOX Sports

Had enough of the he-said, he-said rancor between the NFL and players? Don't expect it to go away anytime soon.

The outcome of the league's first work stoppage since 1987 could be decided in court; the first hearing on the players' request for an injunction to block the owners' lockout was scheduled for April 6. In the meantime, there probably will be more of the same as Monday, when Kevin Mawae - president of the NFL Players Association, the now-dissolved union - accused the league of spreading "complete falsehoods and complete lies."

Lead Negotiator Pash Says NFL Recently Offered 10-Year CBA Deal from Sports Illustrated

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things look promising with the 21st pick

Pioli will get Phil Taylor to be his Vince Wilfork

Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
Hali and Flowers are Pro Bowlers, even if the NFL fails to realise it

by trentchiefsfan on Mar 15, 2011 8:16 AM CDT reply actions

I have a question about endorsements . . .

I noticed that Michael Vick just signed a new endorsement deal. With that in mind, I know that the players want a bigger slice of the revenues but do the owners get a slice of the player’s endorsements? I don’t know if they do or not. It would only seam right if they would since it is the owners that pay the players to play and without a venue to show off their talents, who would notice or care about them. If they are not noticed or cared about, who would pay them to endorse their product? Does anyone know if the owners get a slice of the palyers’ endorsement deals?

by KC Scout on Mar 15, 2011 8:37 AM CDT reply actions

Do the players get a cut of ads sold within the stadium? Or for the "official fill in the blank of the Chiefs."

What’s JC’s cut of the travesty that is Chiefs and Hyvee (RIP Chiefs and Chopper).

I don’t comment on this site for the people that are against me and think that I can’t do it. I comment for the people that have always believed in me. I comment for my family, for my wife, for my mother so it really comes down to that.

by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 15, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions

It si my understanding that the players do get a cut of stadium adds

I would think it all falls under all revenue. I may be wrong there though.

by KC Scout on Mar 15, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions

I really don't know.

I also don’t know who gets the revenue from other events at Arrowhead. If the city owns the place do they get the revenue from whatever god awful country concerts they put through there or does some management company get that? The Hunts?

by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 15, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions

Talk to DexMex...

You don’t need to perform on the field to go after endorsements or selfpromotion.

by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 15, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Ok, but what kind of endorsements do they get if they don't ever play ball?

They may be able to self-promote to a point but without their star power on the field, i don’t see them getting multi-million dollar endorsements.

by KC Scout on Mar 15, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions

Thanks for the Weis story NJ

I know it won’t matter to the Haley haters out there, but this looks like the best information yet that there was no power struggle in KC. Haley is not an ogre. Weis moved because he wants to put family first at this point in his life. I don’t blame him one bit.

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"

by Aiken_Drum on Mar 15, 2011 8:50 AM CDT reply actions

I don't think suggesting that Haley is hard to work with equates to being a hater.

I for one like the fact that he seems to be a raging asshole who threw Weis’s fat ass far under the bus.

by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 15, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions

That statement is wrong on so many levels...

haters gonna hate.

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"

by Aiken_Drum on Mar 15, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions

Typical Aiken response...

if you disagree with me you’re wrong. More predictable than a Paul Hackett offense.

by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 15, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Exactly how has Haley

thrown “Weis’s fat ass far under the bus”?

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"

by Aiken_Drum on Mar 15, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions

Did you hear Haley's post season (after the season not Baltimore game) interviews?

I don’t have the transcripts but it was clear what Haley thought of Weis, and it wasn’t positive. It was subtle but clear.

by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 15, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions

No, I haven't seen these statements.

Subtle but clear? I am sure Haley was not happy with Charlie’s choice of leaving. That does not equate to Haley and Weis unable to work together because of either ones ego. This is my problem with this line of thinking. Things that happened concerning these two have been taken out of context in order to allude to this ego clash. There is not one credible source that I have seen for this position, yet it continues to be believed. Charlie decided to do what was best for his family, plain and simple. All the rest has no basis in fact.

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"

by Aiken_Drum on Mar 15, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Credible source? I heard it from Haley's mouth...

and what I heard (while he didn’t outright say it, he is a pro afterall) was that he thought Weis was a prick and was happy to have him go. He went on an on praising his coaches while completely minimizing the impact Weis had. I have no doubt that Haley is happy that Weis is gone and have no problem with Haley being hard to work with.

by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 15, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

I guess you are better than I at

selective listening. By your own admission, Haley did not outright say any of the things that you put in your comment. Funny, but I thought it was necessary for someone to actually say something before the world could repeat it and point to it for verification. If indeed he did minimize what Weis had done in KC, it was probably because Weis had moved on and Haley would rather spend time praising the staff that existed instead of the ones that left. In fact, by your admission, that is exactly what he DID do. Why does it have to have a sinister undercurrent concerning Haley thinking Weis was a prick (your words)? Nothing has been put forward at this point to corroborate that position.

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"

by Aiken_Drum on Mar 15, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions

I think it's hard to say Weis is putting family first

Weis is more likely to be eying a move to college HC in the near future. I can’t imagine a college HC has much more free time than a pro OC; they have to plan games, recruit players, do the media thing, brush criminal acts of players under the rug, etc. I’m not sure if Haley ran Weis out of town, which he could have, or if Weis’s ego won’t let him be second in command.

by Chiefs4Life on Mar 15, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions