Todd Haley Undecided On Calling Plays; Chiefs May Be Looking For QB Coach
by Joel Thorman on Feb 3, 2011 12:01 PM CST
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We've got a few interesting developments with the news that the Kansas City Chiefs have promoted offensive line coach Bill Muir to offensive coordinator.
First, the Chiefs have confirmed the news. Josh Looney of KCChiefs.com already has a story up with quotes from Haley and QB Matt Cassel so this has been in the works.
Second, Muir will still have his hand in the offensive line but assistant coach Pat Perles is expected to see increased duties.
Third, Mortensen reports Haley is still undecided on whether he'll be calling plays. There has been a belief for a while now that he will be the one calling plays. In my mind, Muir's hiring strengthens that thought.
Fourth, the Chiefs are still considering hiring a quarterback coach for Cassel. The Chiefs were expected to find an offensive coordinator with a background in the passing game -- and that is not Muir's background -- so a quarterback coach could help fill that void. Mortensen reports Chris Palmer, a former NFL head coach who is currently a UFL head coach. Palmer has a connection to Bill Parcells as both worked in New England together from 1993-1996. Palmer was the receivers coach until taking over the quarterbacks in his final year with the team. Mortensen reports a decision on a quarterbacks coach could be one to two weeks away.
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I'm very
underwhelmed by this. But… who knows, right?
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
I'd be more impressed if somebody could actually confirm if he will be or not.
I honestly don’t expect then to ever announce it. Even if they do, nobody will ever believe he isn’t.
I don't mind Haley calling plays at all
when he did, we led the league in drops, I don’t see that happening again. I was frustrated with play calling this year and thought sometimes the players did well despite the bad plays. It’s not like Haley didn’t get his first Head Coach job without being a good OC/play caller in the first place. I think our offense will improve this year.
Is the thought process
that he knows lineman and understands d-lineman and will be able to help our run game explode? Will he be able to watch films and disect the opposing d-line and see what plays will work best? Where the giant holes will open up for Jamaal Charles to win MVP next year and take our team to the super bowl? Is he just hired for his expertise, so that he can give his input on defenses for Haley so that Haley can call the plays and bring us a Super Bowl championship?
I really don’t care how much of a roll he has, or even if it’s a good or bad move. All I want is for my beloved Chiefs to be crowned Champions of the National Football League. Bill Muir, I hope you can help us acheive this goal!
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I will be ok
If we hire a good QB coach. It’s Haleys team he will call plays because he trust only himself unless you have previously worked for Parcells.
"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.
"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 3, 2011 12:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So I guess we'll be running the Single and Double-Wing offense..
With “new” positions like the wingback, and split end I can’t help but be pumped. I’m just wondering how they’re going to stain the leather helmets red.
"Reject a woman, and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind. Also, weak arms."
-Dwight Schrute
There is little doubt in my mind Haley will be calling the plays...
Read the first few paragraphs of this post.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/2/18/762684/getting-to-know-the-chiefs
KC Chiefs Football Blog
Go Chiefs!
Basically because he looks like an old boring guy everyone hates the move.
Haley’s specialty is offense and the Chiefs offense was always going to be his offense. Muir will handle the day to day detail stuff and Romeo is one the best defensive coordinators ever, Haley will be fine calling the plays as many coaches do in today’s NFL.
Nah, I think it's more just a feeling of apathy..
“Really, we waited until now for THIS, shit, you could have just sent me a text.”
"Reject a woman, and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind. Also, weak arms."
-Dwight Schrute
It's not that he's old and looks like a grumpy grandpa that bums me out.
1. I just don’t see how this helps us.
2. I don’t know if I, and it seems there are many others, believe in Haley calling plays, this just goes to show he will.
3. There is still question on the QB coach position and sorry but a QB who never started in college, then for multiple years in the NFL and has only started the last 3 needs a QB coach.
4. His offenses in Tampa were not good. He wasn’t calling plays but if he was doing what we think it will be like here where he prepared the game plan and the HC called plays then it still sucked. Remember those teams, with that defense, if they had a decent offense they would have won multiple super bowls.
5. He’s 70, he will be OC for at most 2-3 years. Even if he is good. So there is a good chance Cassel will be on his 6th OC in about 4 years by this time next year. (McDaniels, Gailey, Haley, Weis, Muir, next in line). Rotating OC’s like that is professional suicide for most players.
6. It’s just not an exciting decision and we all want exciting, like when we brought in Weis and Romeo.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
People are upset because we hired from within a guy with OC experience and our HC, who's a very good play caller, will likely call the plays?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
I want Steve DeBerg as QB coach
Ok, let's settle the NFL labor dispute with Roger Goodell and DeMaurice Smith in a one on one Oklahoma drill. First one to get a concussion loses.
by Randy5225 on Feb 3, 2011 1:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Chris Palmer?
I’m guessing he’s not exactly a hidden gem since he hasn’t coached in the NFL for a decade and a half. It took a month to announce that old ass Bill Muir will be OC and now we’re looking at some reject from the UFL to develop Cassel. This is a joke.
To be honest
We aren’t hiring the guy to lead the team, just to coach the QB. I don’t see the problem with someone who has coaching experience like he does taking a step down in responsibility to be a positions coach.
Snap the f*cking ball, Brodie.
by scottbwalters on Feb 3, 2011 4:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
How about Elvis Grbac as QB coach?!
Not really, but Pioli has taken this team from a loser to winner quickly, so I trust his judgement here.
Haley on the radio.
Sports Radio 810 WHB
Todd Haley talks with The Program at 1:40 pm today to discuss new offensive coordinator Bill Muir.
YAAAAAY! Now you go, lady!
John Clayton said it best (although I hate the guy).
This was going to be one of the more insignificant hires in the NFL because this offense will have Todd Haley’s prints all over it.
I'm down
People should stop comparing Haleys first year here as to why we’re gonna do terrible. This go around has so much more stability in all aspects of our team. Who gives a shot how old this guy is. Will he improve our OL? Absolutely, and we’re gonna NEED that. Which will make our ground game even more lethal. How bout we give these guys, I don’t know, a game or 2 before we start casting them off. Pioli has the best interest of the team and what could make it better. Why would this move be different?
by KCinIL on Feb 3, 2011 1:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't give a shit... or a shot
The way I see it Haley will call the bulk of the plays.
Muir will help “coordinate” the offense and continue to work with the O-line a bit
We’ll get a QB coach (Jim Zorn anybody?)
Age doesn’t mean anything with these guys. You have folks like Dick Lebeau, Tom Moore, even Al Saunders – these guys are older but still effective. Get over the creepy picture of Muir – we’ll be fine.
by Ochophosphate on Feb 3, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
This.
This is exactly how it was setup in Tampa when Muir was OC there. He would take care of the day to day and practice stuff and the gameplanning would be up to Gruden and him and the play calling fell to Gruden. No reason it can’t work and like KCinIL said it’s not even close to the same scenario as year one so no point in comparing the two.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
I want to see Kurt Warner as the new QB Coach!!!
by Grayt1 on Feb 3, 2011 2:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
How about Hotlantas qb coach that was fired…….seems Flaccos numbers went up and he was pissed they lettem go…..?
by SeeNred on Feb 3, 2011 5:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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