Who will be the Chiefs #2 WR in 2011?
by tmurawsk on Feb 20, 2011 1:59 PM CST
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No doubt this has been a highly discussed topic among us Arrowhead Pride followers. And it should be. We saw what happened when defenses tightened their coverages on Dwayne Bowe and forced Matt Cassel to look elsewhere. It was consistently not a pretty sight and it resulted in Cassel having to force too many throws into triple coverage. Our complement to Bowe was supposed to be Chris Chambers, but we found out exactly what the Chargers did when they released him in 2009. That Chambers lacks the determination and attitude to be a starting WR. There is little doubt in my mind that he has played his last season as a Kansas City Chief. Our high 2nd round pick in 2010, Dexter McCluster, is not particularly fit to be a #2 WR, but we know that already. Regardless, he will have a fine career as a slot receiver.
Let's assume that the Chiefs do not pick up a high profile WR in free agency this year. Although the WR class in free agency appears to be fairly strong, I don't see Pioli/Haley spending a lot of money on a top receiver. It's likely that we do bring somebody in, but I can see most Chiefs fans being let down in not hearing a big name. It's my belief, as is many others have, that the Chiefs will definitely use one of their top 3 picks on a WR in the 2011 NFL Draft. Based on where I think most will available, here's a breakdown of the WR's based on them being available at our picks. (Obviously I am going to eliminate A.J. Green and Julio Jones from this conversation since they will be long gone before our first selection). Some of these players, however, may not be available at the Chiefs selection. The Combine is this week and we will see some players draft stock rise and fall. Any of the available WR's that I have with a 1st round grade may (some will) go in the 2nd round, but it's highly unlikely they fall to our pick. So let's assume at this point, that this is a legit forecast of where each player will be drafted.
1st Round:
- Torrey Smith, Maryland (6-0, 202)
- Titus Young, Boise State (5-11, 175)
- Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh (6-5, 224)
- Leonard Hankerson, Miami (6-3, 205)
2nd Round:
- Randall Cobb, Kentucky (5-11, 186)
- Tandon Doss, Indiana (6-3, 202)
- Jerrel Jernigan, Troy (5-9, 190)
3rd Round:
- Austin Pettis, Boise State (6-3, 203)
- Vincent Brown, San Diego State (6-0, 195)
- Greg Little, North Carolina (6-3, 220)
So how about it, Arrowhead Pride?! Which WR would you choose based on their projected round?
My Vote: Tandon Doss in the 2nd round
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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We trade all our draft picks ...
for a chance at AJ Green or Julio Jones!
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by i'minCostaRicachiefsfan on Feb 20, 2011 2:20 PM CST reply actions
I have asked you guys this before...if Julio drops to # 13 would the Chiefs trade up to get him?
The Lions are interested in him as well [who would not be?] but I have little doubt they would trade back for your first and second round picks.
Mayhew may ask for your seventh pick as well to replace the one that the NFL took from us.
Any takers?
personally, I want to see the Chiefs trade DOWN not UP this year
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
By the way,
Nice Work laying all this out for us! Gives me a good perspective and information for the upcoming draft!
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by i'minCostaRicachiefsfan on Feb 20, 2011 2:21 PM CST reply actions
Our offense would be elite if we traded up
for AJ. But, I think tandon doss or titus young. I think titus young is the next desean jackson
I didn't know that was what Cassel was supposed to do ...
It was consistently not a pretty sight and it resulted in Cassel having to force too many throws into triple coverage
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Sorry sir, let me rephrase that sentence:
“..it resulted in Cassel forcing too many throws into double/triple coverage.”
Why did he HAVE to force too many throws? Because of his inability to check down to another receiver. Hope I cleared that up for you.
was just giving ya a hard time, I actually knew this ...
Why did he HAVE to force too many throws? Because of his inability to check down to another receiver. Hope I cleared that up for you.
not sure how much it’s gonna help even if we DO have a truly good WR opposite Bowe … Cassel would still have to make a decision to throw to one side or the other, and make that decision wuickly … sadly, that’s not the best part of his game
if we keep him in a fast, 3-step drop that’s designed to let him get rid of the quickly (indeed, designed to MAKE him get rid of the ball quickly) he isn’t going to have much time to do any checkdowns or read defenses much to begin with … he’s good at “get it and sling it” without thinking, but after that, when his brain tries to get involved, that’s when he slips a gear and has issues in the pocket
my two cents
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Pettis and Breaston
That’s my vote
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
by stagdsp on Feb 20, 2011 5:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Would be a HUGE upgrade for us
Even without Breaston I would feel a lot better with Pettis as the #2 and with Tucker having a year under his belt
Cassel out, Andrew Luck in!
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 20, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
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Double Down!
WR is one of the two positions I believe are strong candidates for double dipping in the draft this year. A 2nd round pick and a 4th-5th round pick make sense. I don’t believe WR will be our first pick.
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by FalconMF27 on Feb 20, 2011 2:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I agree
Wouldn’t mind Torrey Smith though dude’s a beast, especially if we were to pair him with Bowe.
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 20, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
The Hankerson kid is getting talked up pretty good...
they say is hands are huge, and has decent speed. he could fall to the 2nd
He will fall to the 2nd round but will be gone by our pick at 55.
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Hankerson in the second if he's there, doubtful though
Our number 2 next year is most likely gonna be Mr. Verran Tucker. As i’ve been saying for a while, IMO receivers aren’t our problem
I hope not
and our recievers are not THE problem, but they are a huge problem.
We should trade our 2nd rounder to Denver for their first rounder next year and then with the 1st overall pick in the 2012 draft select Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Jeffery is a beast
Cassel out, Andrew Luck in!
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 20, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Puts every WR in this years draft to shame.
Boy it would be nice to get him next year but if we do I hope it’s not because we’re drafting in the top 5 again.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Feb 20, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
I do believe he would be the #1 this year
Green is damn good though, sadly most people don’t really know Jeffery
Cassel out, Andrew Luck in!
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 20, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
Jeffrey is not a better prospect than Green
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
You're delirious.
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by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Jeffrey might be the more polished college reciever
but he doesn’t have the speed to be on Greens level as a prospect. Jeffery has great hands and body control, but he looks like a 4.5 guy on the field and Green looks like a 4.3 guy. Say what you want about what he does on the field, but as a prospect Green is better.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
Because speed is everything?
Green is a 6’4 210lbs WR that will run a low to mid 4.4 time. Jeffery is a freak like Calvin Johnson that’s 6’4 230lbs WR that will run a mid 4.4 time. Jeffery has better hands, run blocks better, runs as good of routes and still has a year of college left to improve even further. In two years of college football Jeffery has nearly equaled what Green did in three years. I’m not sure what makes Green a better prospect in your mind but I strongly disagree.
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by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'd put money on Green running in the 4.3's
I think Jeffery runs mid 4.4 at best, but he looks like a 4.5 guy to me on the field. Hands isn’t a question for either player because they both have great hands. Run blocking doesn’t mean much in evaluting and NFL WR. It’s definitely a positive, but I don’t think scouts care about it all that much. Green has missed games each of the last two years, and had terrible QB play his sophmore year and a freshman at QB this year. Jeffery does have another year to improve, but you can’t teach speed. I’m not trying to take anything away form Jeffery. I think he’s a great player, but I just don’t think he’s as good a prospect as Green.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
Only one receiver (Jacoby Ford) ran below 4.40 at the combine
When it comes down to it, for some reason people throw around figures like 4.4 and 4.3 to describe speed that actually translates to 4.5 and 4.4 when using the more accurate electronic timing mechanisms.
Of course I believe the NFL needs to stop allowing players to self-start their 40s, and go to a gun or other signal, because acceleration in football is from the snap, not from whenever a player decides to get going.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
yea thats why Green is considered the best WR prospect since megatron
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
I think it's actually because he had a great freshman season after being a top WR recruit
He didn’t really improve any from there.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
No it's because he's 6'4 210 with 4.3 speed and great hands
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
Green's not a 4.3
And even if he were, it doesn’t translate to the field. He just doesn’t outrun people in college, and he won’t in the NFL either, especially since he lacks a double-move or any other honed trick to get that separation.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
AJ Green doesn't outrun people?
You must of never seen him play.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
I've been watching him since Stafford was throwing to him when he was a freshman
So yes, I’ve seen him play. Put him on a fly route, and he’s not breaking through coverage.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Well idk what you were watching, but i've seen him outrun the coverage plenty of times.
Most of the time to have to try and come back for an underthrown ball cuz he hasn’t had a QB with an arm since Stafford.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
Murray has plenty of arm
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Murray has a solid arm
It’s just not what Stafford had in his year with green obviously.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
Right, but at the college level, Murray's arm was never a limiting factor
He’s a pretty good passer. Green was just out-performed by guys like Massaquoi.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yea, I think Murrays gonna be really really good
When was Green outperformed by Massaquio? The one year they played together Green had 2 less catches and more yards, and before Green got there he hadn’t done shit.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
Massaquoi was the go-to receiver for UGA that year
Green certainly racked up yardage, but usually not the tough catches like Massacre did.
At any rate, I’m not arguing that Green’s a good prospect. I’m just saying that if I were counting the top five WR prospects of the past ten years, he definitely wouldn’t be even close to the list, whereas CJ would be in contention for the very top spot.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
ehhh Green probably wouldn't be top 5 for me either but it would be pretty close
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
Questionable
Although I don’t think either is an elite NFL prospect, I think Jeffery’s slightly better because of his polish.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Jeffery would be the result if Antonio Gates and Calvin Johnson had a baby.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Don't forget
Jeffrey was just a Sophomore this past season.
He had huge games against Georgia, Auburn, Alabama, Clemson, and Florida State (as well as some lower-level programs). I think that speaks for itself.
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by citadelchief on Feb 21, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
And all that on a run first(and debateably also a run second) team.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Also, Steve Spurrier's team
And Spurrier’s system is infamous for getting great production out of WRs who don’t end up translating well to the NFL. I think Jeffery’s benefitting pretty heavily from that system, perhaps to around the same degree that Crabtree benefitted from the Air Raid.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
I think he's benefitting from being Calvin Johnson 2.0 with a background in basketball to make it even better.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
He's nowhere near Calvin Johnson
Johnson is the single greatest receiving prospect since at least Randy Moss. Jeffery is better than his SC predecessors, Sidney Rice and Kenny McKinley, but not to a great degree. If Calvin Johnson had been playing under Spurrier, with someone like Garcia instead of Ball throwing to him, he’d have likely been a 2000yd. receiver in college.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Johnson was also hardly playing against SEC calibur defenses.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
caliber*
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by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
The difference in defensive quality for the ACC that year and SEC in 2010 is nil
Check out the stats, and you’ll see that the ACC in 2006 was actually tougher against the pass than the SEC was in 2010.
The SEC-is-the-bestest echo chamber isn’t accurate, but it’s widely-believed, thanks to ESPN.
When you throw in that CJ had one of the nation’s worst passers—and that’s not hyperbole, I actually mean it—and that he played for GT, and the difference is clear.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Calvin Johnson is bigger and faster than Alshon
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
2nd for a 1st?
That doesn’t sound very likely even if elway is running the show. Cassel needs better WRs to be good cause he’s not very good so ya it’ll have to be THE problem until we replace cassel
2nds in the current years draft typically go for firsts in the following years draft.
Wouldn’t be the first time it’s happened. Denver did it just a couple of years ago.
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by GenericBrand on Feb 20, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Mcd's first year they traded back into the second for the CB
Cassel out, Andrew Luck in!
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 20, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know who I take... But I know who ever I would draft it wouldn't be higher than a third round pick.
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Can we have some better choices?
If Baldwin or Hankerson is gone at our 2nd round pick.
I would bail on these guys and take someone in the 5th round.
Passing up too much good beef chasing prima donna WR’s
Just try to STOP US
Beef, its what's for dinner!
I’m with you Steve. We need lots of beef now and maybe not so much prima donna.
Agree with Steve, we need BEEF
and that whole entire list of choices up there is totally unsatisfactory. FA would be the better way to go to get WR’s. Chiefs need to go after BEEF in 2011 draft.
The BEEF will let the .....girls, (sorry did I say that out loud?) do their thing.
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by Masons on Feb 20, 2011 5:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Vincent brown
Get a FA ( once there is a new CBA ) and draft brown. He catches the ball with his hands big and could be good to develope. Next year make a play to draft WR Blackmoun.
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1. NT 2. OT 3. OLB 4. C 5a. C/G 5b. S 6. QB 7. FB
by Mas Cervezas on Feb 20, 2011 6:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I doubt...
that we address the #2 WR position in the draft. I think we will make two major moves in free agency. Ryan Harris (RT, Broncos) and Santana Moss (WR, Redskins). They are perfect fits for what we need and shouldn’t break the bank. We can afford them especially when Weigmann, Vrabel, Jones, and Chambers are off the books. It would also free us up to go defense heavy in the draft and get a NT, LB, and maybe even a CB in the first 3 rounds.
I'm holding onto hope that we get Steve Breaston in FA.
That allows Verran Tucker to develop more as a #3 guy instead of just throwing him into the fire.
Then also draft a guy from a smaller school in the mid or later rounds.
Tori Gurley – South Carolina – Great size and underrated skills. Overshadowed by his teammate (Alshon Jeffrey) but was a fairly reliable target. Played in the SEC (which seems to be Pioli’s target conference). He’s a 3rd year Sophomore and decided to enter the draft because he’s 23 and would once again be overshadowed by a dominant Jeffrey if he returned.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
There's supposed to be an "or" after the statement about a guy from a smaller school.
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by citadelchief on Feb 20, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Gurley is a good player and does get overlooked because of Jeffery
He has good hands and runs pretty good routes. He’s not the kind of guy that will come in and contribute alot in year one but could be a good player to groom over time.
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by GenericBrand on Feb 20, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
Also plays pretty good special teams already.
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by GenericBrand on Feb 20, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
I got to watch a lot of him this year.
He comes from an incredibly similar situation (dominant run game, top tier WR drawing double team, and solid receiving TE).
Kansas City would probably be HIS best opportunity to develop and reach his potential.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Feb 21, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
Bringing in a FA is more sound than using a high pick to draft a #2.
Hearing about the NFL CBA is like stepping on a turd. It stinks everytime. - Me
Or doing both
A late 2nd round pick is a decent place to draft a WR, especially if we sign a veteran WR for 2011, which is what I hope we do. We can’t expect immediate impact from really a WR no matter where we draft him, so get a talented enough player in the 2nd, let a vet fill in (S. Moss is my choice) and let the rookie work his way into the line up
It's one thing to see something wrong and have good ideas how to fix it, it's another to complain about everything because nothing is ever good enough. Look in the mirror, which one are you?
and pass on a NT or Center
I like the possibilities on the lines better than throwing a pick at another depth WR
Just try to STOP US
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 20, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed completely
we need the beef. Plus, by signing a quality FA at WR we have a #2 option that can be an instant impact and allow us to use those high picks for what we really need. Beef. And an OLB. No WR until 4th-5th round, maybe Ronald Johnson from USC.
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Yeah, last year Cinci stole Jordan Shipley in the 3rd (84th overall, a pick earlier than KC's 2011 3rd))
Obviously guys like Brandon LaFell, Mike Williams, and Jacoby Ford went even later. There are always lots of good deals on WRs in that 2nd-3rd territory. It’s just a matter of striking gold, I guess.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
#2 receiver
I would hope that our #2 receiver is Tucker. I don’t think it is possible to judge wide receivers when our off line is not giving Cassel enough time to make his progressions and receivers to run their routes. Getting receivers in the draft seems futile under those circumstances. Get some beef in the off line and cure the disease and quit trying to cure the symptoms.
I'd like Tucker to get a little more experience in a less critical role.
It’s usually not a good thing to just stick someone into the fire like that. Tucker did a great job for us, for an UDFA. But when a team has a 1,000 yard receiver and still is at the bottom of the league in passing offense, there are upgrades needed.
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by citadelchief on Feb 21, 2011 7:03 AM CST up reply actions
WR in the first is an interesting concept
I don’t know how the rest of the tree feels about it, but parcells is not a WR in the first round kind of guy. If I recall correctly, he’s only done it twice, and once was at the end of the first (so basically the second). I’m going to break the assumption and say we get Breston and maybe spend a late pick on a flyer and work on Verron Tucker.
This might ruffle some feathers.....
……do The Chiefs really have a #1 receiver. Can Bowe repeat his 2010 performance, or is he a one hit wonder?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nrHQRgWXJK4
IMO #2 receiver has to be a proven NFL caliber player (FA). Then a mid round prospect, with a lot of attention to the line, with early picks.
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Other side to that argument.
A lot of the people down on Bowe are doing the same thing they accuse the other side of. While there shouldn’t be too much stock put in the 2010 seaon, the same is true of the 2009 season.
Don’t forget, 2009 is the only season where Bowe has had less than 900 yards receiving. He has shown an improvement in his work ethic (went to Fitzgerald’s and Gannon’s camps). While I’m not going to start singing his praises because of last year, I’m not going to write him off because of 1 bad year either.
I do agree that the #2 WR needs to be grabbed in FA though.
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by citadelchief on Feb 21, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
My vote went to Pettis in round 3
Hankerson would be tough to pass on if he is there in round 2.
you now thing Titus will be on Pioli's board?
if so, I’m all for it.
I’m asking for Breaston and Pettis
But, I’d be happy with Torrey Smith, Hankerson, Young, Pettis, and a handfull of other prospects
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
Nope
But that wont stop me from wanting him :) The 2 guys I want the most probably arent on Piolis Board (Phil Taylor & Titus Young)
by Larryemcdaniel on Feb 21, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Don't think Taylor is on Pioli's board?
I think he’d have a hard time not including him somewhere. Maybe not as high as he’s starting to become projected but he’s got to be there somewhere.
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by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Well i’m sure both are on their boards
but i would guess that nether are fairly high.
by Larryemcdaniel on Feb 21, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
I think Taylor might be higher on the board than you think
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
Man, can you imagine what Titus does to this offense
To have a desean jackon/mike wallace type along with Bowe, Charles, and Dex… WOW! Elite!
by Larryemcdaniel on Feb 21, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
yep, that'd be scary
add in a better FB like Marecic or McClain (pipedream)
and maybe another good receiving TE, and a Steve Breaston :)
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
Me
I can give the Chiefs similar disappearing qualities as current #2 options…and at a FRACTION of the price.
Any takers? Huh? Huh?
No one? No one wants a slightly rotund, out-of-shape, 35-year old white guy that runs a 4.9 40?
Drat.
You run a 4.9 40?
That’s burning for a 35-year-old out of shape white guy…
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that'd be awesome
I SERIOUSLY doubt it’ll happen, but I wouldn’t complain
Prediction: KC will not draft a LB before the 3rd round
As of yesterday Baldwin was at 57 on CBS and 66 on Draftek’s big boards. So he would fall to the Chiefs with our #2 pick at 55. There will probably be a lot of movement before draft day. So if we could manage to come out of this draft with Taylor at NT and a quality pick at OG & OT and Baldwin at #2 would that make most of us happy?
I can't believe Pettis has that many votes
He is not a good compliment to Bowe. With his ability, Teams will continue to man up and put 8-9 plays in the box. We need someone who can stretch the field and also get YAC. That’s not Pettis…
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