Thomas Jones Can Move Up On The All-Time Rushing List

by Joel Thorman on Dec 8, 2011 12:39 PM CST

Kansas City Chiefs RB Thomas Jones is going to be in the headlines this weekend because of his affiliations with the New York Jets but he also has the chance to move on up in the record books.

As Jones mentioned in his conference call with the New York media, he's 11 yards shy of taking a couple of jumping two players on the all-time rushing yards list.

20. Ricky Watters: 10,643

21. Jamal Lewis: 10,607

22. Tiki Barber: 10,449

23. Eddie George: 10,441

24. Thomas Jones: 10,438

(Note: I had no idea Jamal Lewis was so high on this list.)

So probably sometime early in Sunday's game he'll pass George for the 23rd spot all time and eight more yards after that he'll pass Tiki, landing in the 22nd spot all-time.

No. 20 doesn't seem that far away -- 205 yards -- but Jones has just 325 yards rushing in the first 12 games. He would need an incredible increase in production over the final four games to hit it.

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So

it will only take him like 10 carries on Sunday to pass Eddie George

by badassz1987 on Dec 8, 2011 12:44 PM CST reply actions 5 recs

I had that exact same thought.

The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Chiefy316 on Dec 8, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions

more like fifteen

six (-2) plus 8(2) and a breakout five yarder.

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by neiowakcfan on Dec 8, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions

he may pass

Eddie George a few times

Jared Gaither cut, and BRich still starting?
thats the wrong kind of 53.

by Redberry on Dec 8, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs

Mean + True = Funny

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by The Gentry on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions

damn it I spit coffee all over myself

by Bigcherokeechief on Dec 8, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions

No offense to the poster.

…but I’m not sure it’s possible for me to care less about where Thomas Jones falls on the all-time list. I’m just sick and tired of 2nd and 9.5 after he carries the ball.

by craig in calgary on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 PM CST reply actions

Or watching battle run to the outside

And gain nothing.. I don’t understand our playing callling .

by chiefsman! on Dec 8, 2011 12:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

that can run-block, a pulling center not on AARP, and a LG that can handle a +300# DL in space. Since we have all that, I too, cannot understand why we keep losing yards on that play and have yet to make the corner.

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by neiowakcfan on Dec 8, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions

Ha, AARP sums it up quite nicely.

by Chiefs447 on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions

agreed with the line issue

but battle is to slow for any kind of sweeps also

by chiefsman! on Dec 8, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

yes we have batttle doing the sweeps, and Dex running up the middle

Those play calls I don’t understand

by Bigcherokeechief on Dec 8, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions

I've never heard anyone complain about Barry's run blocking

Nor Lilja’s ability to block in space or Weig’s ability to pull.

It’s Barry’s pass blocking, and Lilja/Weigmann’s lack of power that is their weak points.

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions

So break down the sweeps to the right side

and show me how the defense gets to the back behind the line of scrimmage and tell me how it’s not the line’s fault.

Maybe we should stop drinking the “OL is good enough” Kool-Aid. Where did we break down in the playoffs, at home, against the Ravens? One good run (well-blocked) over left guard for a TD. That’s it. It wasn’t a right sweep.

I think B-Rich is a turnstyle in pass-blocking, too. Lilja and Weigmann are pulling lineman. Weigmann did quite well eight years ago when he had pro-bowlers around him. Lilja did OK in Indy, when he had to pass block for 0.8 seconds.

Anyhow, show me how the right sweep breaks down. It’s not on Battle. All I’m saying. Sorry to point out another O-line deficiency that Andrew Luck could fix.

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by neiowakcfan on Dec 8, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions

How could Andrew Luck fix that particular deficiency?

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions

didnt you know

Luck is so good that he can play qb and rt all at the same time

by banshee_01 on Dec 8, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions

Ah, of course.

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions

He wont hold onto the ball for 5 minutes

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 8, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions

And that will help us run a sweep play to the right how?

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2011 6:03 PM CST up reply actions

safties won't crowd the line

Because they will respect the fact our qb can make throws down the field.Having a franchise qb helps ALL areas of the team,not just the passing game

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 8, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions

Given that the issues he was talking about had nothing to do with S's crowding the line

I don’t see how having S’s not crowding the line would fix those particular problems.

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 9, 2011 12:20 AM CST up reply actions

they won't come up as much up to stop the run

Thus,it is now easier to run right ,left,middle because db’s are now worried about a qb that can burn them up top.And then when they come up to stop the run,you beat them over the top.Ya,a running play isn’t going work that well when a defense knows your qb can’t throw more than 50 yards down field.They can concentrate on taking the run away.A great passing game ,is just as important to the running game and vice versa

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 9, 2011 12:39 AM CST up reply actions

Yes, I know that

But again, if the original premise is that the offensive line sucks at run blocking, a safety being near the LOS of back in coverage won’t matter all that much.

The Colts sucked at running the ball for years despite having Pey-Pey

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 9, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions

The colts had a great running game when edgeren james was there

In fact,James either led ,or was in the top 5 in rushing for 4 years at Indy.It’s only been the past few years where the Colts have struggled to run the ball.If you look at Mannings numbers during that time,they suffered as a result

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 9, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions

Yes, when they had a good RB, they were good at running the ball

Which shows that you need more than a stud QB. Seriously, we’re going round and round for no reason.

Does a great QB help you run the ball? Absolutely

Does a great QB fix the SPECIFIC issues that were originally brought up here (O-line ability in space, and one on one with bigger defenders)? Absolutely not.

Seriously, I don’t know why you’re fighting me on this one.

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 9, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions

I know why

Because,with all the faults the colts have..they were 10-6….LET ME REPEAT ..10 -6 ,WITH Peyton Manning in the lineup.Without him,they are 0 AND 12!!!! With virtually the same players. Minus the qb on the roster.QB is everything in the NFL these days.I can go look up stats ,but,you know the end result

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 9, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions

QB is not everything

Most important position by far, but not everything.

I’ll never argue with QB being more important than any two other positions combined.

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 9, 2011 9:00 PM CST up reply actions

Did you watch last nights game?

How many teams have fallen apart without there starting qb? Ravens seem to be fine w/out Ray Lewis in the lineup

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 9, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions

Again, QB is not everything

But it IS more important than any other two positions combined. But no, it’s not everything.

And Ray Lewis has been overrated for about 2 years now. He’s not even in the top 5 best ILB’s in the game at this point.

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 10, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions

Andrew Luck couldn't fix that deficiency

unless he can take punishment like Ben Roethlisberger. Ow.

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by neiowakcfan on Dec 9, 2011 4:34 AM CST up reply actions

The better question is how could Ricky Stanzi

fix that particular deficiency, since the All-American poster without Jesus inherently on his side CAN throw the ball downfield, and he happens to be on the roster. Luck, not so much.

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by neiowakcfan on Dec 9, 2011 4:36 AM CST up reply actions

reply fail

please insert “poster boy”

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by neiowakcfan on Dec 9, 2011 4:38 AM CST up reply actions

Nice

And yes, I think it makes sense to focus on the players we actually have on the roster, rather than players we likely don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting.

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 9, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions

And why on earth are people still talking about Luck

When it is so, so obvious IND is going to take him? There’s a reason they didn’t put a claim on Orton despite him being better than any QB they have….

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions

what

you mean they are tanking this season on purpose,

by banshee_01 on Dec 8, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

I know, it's stunning information, right?

I don’t think it started off that way, even after Manning got hurt. But I believe that’s where they’re at now.

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by MNchiefsfan on Dec 8, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions

I honestly think it did start out that way

as soon as Manning went down, they knew they had no sb chances, cause I just dont see how the qb going down can make your defense so bad, and Im tired of people saying they are built to play with a lead thats bs they still have to stop people

and I think the nfl needs to do like the nba with the draft lottery to keep teams from doing it, because its embarrassing to both the league and the team

by banshee_01 on Dec 8, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions

And why would they tank for Luck?

Because they want to win long term maybe?

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 8, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions

yes cause just by drafting him

guarantees them long term success doesnt it

by banshee_01 on Dec 8, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions

pretty much

Big I told you so moment, for me coming in a year or 2

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 8, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions

k ill be waiting with mine for you as well

by banshee_01 on Dec 8, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions

and what is that?

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 8, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions

A question for my good friend Craig in Calgary

Are you as sick of watching him run the ball as you were of LJ or is TJ worse in your opinion?

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by Aiken_Drum on Dec 8, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions

I don't like any RB's with a J as an initial

CJ Spiller, I’m looking at you.

by craig in calgary on Dec 8, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions

Wait a minute

JC?

Gotta love a good pass rush.

by TamBa 91 on Dec 8, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions

Haysoos Charles

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by TheScootness on Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions

No problem with number 20 Joel.

He’ll get plenty of extra yards in the Chiefs playoff games this year. :)

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by Aiken_Drum on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 PM CST reply actions

nice!

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by upamtn on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions

I'll be throroughly pissed off if he's on the roster next year

If Haley didn’t feel obligated to give the man so many carries just because he’s a veteran, I wouldn’t mind him being in the mix, but that just hasn’t been the case. He gets too many carries just because he’s “earned it”.

by joplin chiefs fan on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 PM CST reply actions

He'll probably drop back to # 25

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by dbakerku on Dec 8, 2011 12:59 PM CST reply actions

The Only way Jones gets 205 yards is----

If our offensive line can get a serious push on every snap that Jones has the ball. If the line can get about 7 yards of push and then Jones runs into his own man, then he may get the 205 yards this year. Easy to predict, sad.

by Bassbustin on Dec 8, 2011 1:01 PM CST reply actions

205 yards = 510 carries for TJ. Not happening.

by ArrowDread on Dec 8, 2011 1:03 PM CST reply actions

dont count on it..

Tebow and his come from behind wins.
Palko starting.
Gaither being cut…not Brich
a Hail Mary working.

A strange season

Jared Gaither cut, and BRich still starting?
thats the wrong kind of 53.

by Redberry on Dec 8, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions

How does Gaither being cut

have anything to do with B. Rich? LT does not equal RT. Gaither pretty much refused to play RT. Let’s look beyond a workmanlike performance against the Jags with RB help on pass rushes before we scratch our brow too much on cutting Gaither.

Granted, B. Rich must go, but Gaither was not the answer at RT.

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by neiowakcfan on Dec 8, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions

How would you know that?

I never saw him get a chance.

by Chiefs447 on Dec 8, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

Where is he playing in San Diego?

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by neiowakcfan on Dec 8, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions

BEWARE THOMAS JONES

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by TheScootness on Dec 8, 2011 1:22 PM CST reply actions

Hah:

He would need an incredible increase in production over the final four games to hit it.

Either that or less Barry Richardson holds.

by Tomahawk29 on Dec 8, 2011 1:26 PM CST reply actions

Jamal Lewis did have a few seasons where he rushed for 1900 yards+

But other than that, he was a rather mediocre RB.

I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.

by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Dec 8, 2011 1:27 PM CST reply actions

injuries sort of made him mediocre.

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions

maybe thats why he got so pissy late in the game. he lost yards and hates that due to where he is all time

I mean face it, he has to know he wont be getting carries next year.

Id hope not at least.

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Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Dec 8, 2011 1:32 PM CST reply actions

He can carry the ball next year all he wants

just not in a Chiefs uniform

by Chiefs447 on Dec 8, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions

He's fine

He’s still a good running back. When the opposing team’s only focus is on stuffing the box and just daring us to throw….course’ our running backs are going to get stuffed everytime they run the ball. If I were a d coordinator playing the Chiefs, I would force Palko to throw it 50+ times…

nothing about this year has been fun to watch… even that first game when we had everyone…

by macjeff35 on Dec 8, 2011 2:07 PM CST reply actions

Jones is due to make a long run...

that doesn’t get called back on a ridiculous penalty. TJ will have a 100 yard game by the end of the season.

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by ravenhawk on Dec 8, 2011 2:40 PM CST reply actions

Now would be a really good time

by Bigcherokeechief on Dec 8, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions

only if we give him like 600 carries in that game

no way he has 100 yard game this year unless you mean total yards carries+receiving, even then I doubt it

by banshee_01 on Dec 8, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions

8 more yards?

well, I guess he’ll need 15 carries??

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by 25 in Charge on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

I know it is envogue to rip Thomas Jones now

But truth be told,this guy is a borderline HOF player. He is 1 of the most phyisical backs in the league,yet since 2003 he has only missed 3 games with injury.In a day where players are missing games with sore throats,he is the personification of the word warrior.Congratulations Thomas Jones for all you have accomplished.You have earned it

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 8, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions