At Least One Person Thinks Chiefs Are Packers Biggest Remaining Test
by Joel Thorman on Dec 6, 2011 11:44 AM CST
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PrintThe Green Bay Packers are 12-0 so the watch is on to see if they'll be the second team in NFL history to finish the regular season 16-0. Of their four games remaining, the Packers play three at home -- Oakland Raiders, Chicago Bears and Detroit Lions -- and one on the road against the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium.
The Packers will be favored in all those games but at least one NFL Network analyst believes their best shot at losing could come at Arrowhead Stadium.
Indeed, former NFL player Darren Sharper went on NFL Network this week and said that the team with the best shot to beat Green Bay down the stretch is your Kansas City Chiefs.
"When they go on the road," Sharper said of where the Packers could see their first loss. "Playing in Lambeau is too tough, it's too tough to beat this team, as good as the Green Bay Packers are.
"At Kansas City. I know it sounds like a surprise but I firmly believe Kansas City has the players on defense to match up with the receivers, they're athletic enough in the secondary, and they can get enough pressure on Aaron Rodgers with Tamba Hali coming off the edge."
He's right. The way the Chiefs defense has been playing they could conceivably hold the Packers in the low 20s. Only one team has held Green Bay at below 25 points this season and if the Chiefs play the Packers the way they've played the last two weeks, I could see them holding Aaron Rodgers and Co. to 24 points.
But...let's be realistic. That's only half the equation. The Chiefs have clearly demonstrated that they're among the league's worst at scoring points over the last month.
"Saying that, can they score points? That's the big question with Tyler Palko at the quarterback position. If they can find a way to manage maybe a special teams score, maybe a strip-fumble or a score on defense, they might have a chance. It's a tough thing to do but I think Kansas City is going to be their toughest opponent."
He might be right that the Chiefs will be the Packers toughest remaining game but I don't think you can actually predict a Chiefs win, not with the Chiefs offense.
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play down to competition?
Cassel 3 games vs non playoff teams last year. 27 points
Palko 3 games vs Playoff teams 22 points
Cassel makes 63million.
Palko $480,000
Or us playing up
We certainly played up to the Steelers – at least on the defensive side.
Suppose we’ll need a little bit of both (like the first half of the Pats game) to pull this one out.
by Ochophosphate on Dec 6, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
we played up to the Patriots for a half ...
but we’ve played DOWN to a lot of other teams, sadly … and I don’t think we can play as far up as the Packers are for very long
Joel’s right: no way we can score the points we’re going to need, not even close … ultimately I look for a huge blowout, even though we may keep it close for awhile I doubt it will end up being close at all
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
It's true
The Chiefs do “get up” for big time games at home. It’s losing the one’s we are supposed to win that often hurt us.
Kansas City Chiefs; Profitable Mediocrity since 1969.
"22 players off the street could win two games" - Todd Haley
"A horrible coach can win four games in 2 out of the last 3 seasons" - Me
Could be a let-down game.
On the road, against a team that most people don’t think much of, with a playoff spot and bye week likely already locked up.
I only give the Chiefs a chance if they beat the Jets. The Chiefs will HAVE to have something to play for.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
Being the Packers first loss
may be that very thing you allude to.
Kansas City Chiefs; Profitable Mediocrity since 1969.
"22 players off the street could win two games" - Todd Haley
"A horrible coach can win four games in 2 out of the last 3 seasons" - Me
Definitely a source of motivation.
But I’m talking about the playoff race that the Chiefs are still in.
Please, no Jim Mora references.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Dec 6, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
See, that joke really isn't funny anymore.
It’s like a good song that you hear one too many times on the radio.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Dec 6, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't even talk about playOFFS!!
You kidding me? I just hope we can win a game.
by DeuceDouglas on Dec 6, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Sooooo much funnier...
the first 1,000 times.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Dec 6, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
I understand, like Mimsisms.
"Why are all these people here? There are too many people on this earth. We need a new plague…"
-Dwight Schrute
that will be funny
forever just like the endless jokes about Uranus
by chieftimbob on Dec 6, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Could be a trap game with Chicago playing them the week after.
A win versus the Jets on the road should keep the energy alive at Arrowhead… there is no reason why the 12th man isn’t out there in strong force. If Denver and/or Oakland lose next week on top of this… excitement at 1 Arrowhead Dr. will be in full force.
Hopefully Orton is able to throw passes this week, and we see him starting vs the Packers.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Yeah, I think Orton gives us the best chance.
We have to be able to stretch the field. If the Packers aren’t worried about us throwing downfield, then you can expect another 3 INT performance for Palko.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Dec 6, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
and by 3 INT's...
Its most likely going to be 18 points added by Matthews!
Hell maybe we are better off losing to the Jets if Orton isn’t able to play. Then we get to see what Stanzi can give us?
Go Chiefs!!!!
Stanzi Nation
….will come to Arrowhead…
Max: Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? You talk to me.
I expect Stanzi chants... if any QB throws 3 interceptions again this season.
Unless of course its Stanzi throwing the interceptions.
Go Chiefs!!!!
I agree..
You know Stanzi is like a kid at Christmas morning eagerly awaiting for his chance behind center. Plus I don’t see why the offense would have a boost of excitement to help this kid out and protect him. Just my 25 cents :)
Max: Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? You talk to me.
Send in Stanzi
Get the kid into the game anyway, he couldn’t do any worse than Palko. Need to see what KC has in him.
I've been thinking about this possibility of late.
It’s still a long shot and then some. But I do believe that our defense is emerging and turning into something ferocious. That being said, Tyler Palko all but assures our demise in this contest. You can’t really stop the Packers offense as long as Rodgers is hurling the rock, you can only hope to contain it. We might be the team capable of holding them under 24 points, but unless we can score some ourselves, eliminate turnovers, and move the ball with some reasonable consistency, I’d say even that is a long shot.
You can't spell Power without Powe.
You know that secretly Pioli REALLY wants that win.
His team was the one that amassed the undefeated regular season, he doesn’t want that record touched.
You can't spell Power without Powe.
Meh.
The only thing that can stop Mercury Morris and the rest of the annoying Dolphins will be the Saints in the inevitable 77-70 NFC Championship game.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2011 11:57 AM CST reply actions
If the Pack does go undefeated
I look forward to Brett Favre’s immediate post Super Bowl press conference where he suggests that his calling out of Rodgers for “about friggin time” on the Super Bowl team was the added motivation that the team needed to go undefeated, thereby taking his due credit for their season.
You can't spell Power without Powe.
That game will be shades of the '03 Colts/Chiefs game
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
I agree with Sharper
I believe our D will do a pretty good job on Aaron Rogers. Flowers and Carr are more than capable of shutting down Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson. And it will be a plus if Houston can continue to bring pressure off the edge.
Now hopefully we have Orton running the offense in this game because he can throw downfield unlike Palko. Woodson has not looked all that good in coverege which I think will give Bowe the chance to torch him. I think this will be a close game.
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
by LookListenLearn on Dec 6, 2011 11:59 AM CST reply actions
I dunno - that Greg Jennings....
He could put the team on his back (NSFW).
by Ochophosphate on Dec 6, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
lol love that video
His one about Marshawn Lynch is even better
Yeah, but you have to watch the Jennings one first
I loved the responses from Jennings in interviews and on the Lopez show – that whole thing was hilarious.
I feel like a total idiot because I didn’t even hear about that until a month or so ago – like I’ve been living under a rock.
by Ochophosphate on Dec 6, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
True
But I think a healthy Flowers can shut him down. Teams haven’t even really threw at Flowers these past few weeks.
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
by LookListenLearn on Dec 6, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
It's been a big help
That Houston/Hali have been keeping QBs from really having any time to look his way.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
And what does that link show?
I can’t watch it on this slow ass computer i’m on.
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
by LookListenLearn on Dec 6, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Madden game
Greg Jennings catches a 99 yard td pass with a broken leg out runs everybody and plows over darren sharper at the goal line
The commentary is the best
The video is pretty janky – but the guy’s commentary is craptastically funny.
by Ochophosphate on Dec 6, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
lol sounds funny
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
by LookListenLearn on Dec 6, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Even if Flowers and Carr are able to completely shut down Jennings and Nelson, which is easier said than done, we still have to worry about Jones, Driver, and Cobb.
And that’s not even taking into account Finley (have we done a good job covering a single tight end this year?) and those running backs, most of whom are very good at catching the ball out of the backfield.
Defending the Packer’s passing attack is a nightmare. I think Flowers and Carr are definitely up for the challenge, but they can’t be the only ones. Are Arenas and Kendrick Lewis up for it? They very well might be. But what about Piscitelli, Brown, Daniels, or McGraw?
Hali and Houston are going to have to bring their A games, because if Rodgers consistently has time to look past his first or second read, I don’t see how we can stop him.
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This will be a game
Where yet again we’ll miss having a SS who can cover like a corner… Sigh…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Why are all of you guys forgetting Jermichael Finley???????????
He can’t be covered by a Chiefs player…
I'm kind of losing faith in Bowe...
Maybe it is that Bowe has lost faith in our QB so he isn’t playing to his ability, but the last couple of games he has been barely average it seems. How about that drop on the screen pass last week? I think that Breaston is the game changer on our offense now. He is quick and seems to always find a way to get open. He is pretty good in YAC considering his size.
by chiefsisit!!! on Dec 6, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
I've been saying this all year....
This is a huge trap game for Green Bay. An I think Orton will be in there. Got a feeling we might lose to NY an win out.
Rodney Hudson will play Guard.
Jon Asamoah will be starting center by week 5
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 6, 2011 12:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Anybody (I'm sure everybody) remember when
Chad Johnson (still not calling you eight-five) came out in 2003 and said that Cincy was going to be the team to knock KC off their undefeated path?
The Chiefs were 9-0 and playing strong. Our defense hadn’t begun to fall apart like they eventually would. Cincy was 4-5 coming off a win vs. the Texans and were a major underdog. We had to go on the road after two strong home wins – we were riding high.
They took that game from us 24-19 and handed us our first loss of the season.
You never know.
I didn't know who Chad Johnson was until that quote/game
Certainly do now and will never forget that game. So disappointing, especially since he made the guarantee.
I feel u
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
by LookListenLearn on Dec 6, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
That was the first knife to the gut that season...
the Colts playoff game was the second. That was our season.
by Ochophosphate on Dec 6, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't Hicks smash up
85’s grill on a late hit on the ground? I kinda remember seeing something like that and 85 getting up with blood on the mouth.
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by MtnChiefsFan on Dec 6, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
You are correct
Chad Johnson made that prediction. Ochocinco had yet to come into existence back then (2006 is when he changed his name).
And I would really like it if we ended up being what the Bengals were to us in 2003 to the Packers. Packer fans are pretty awful. And there are way too many of them in the Twin Cities.
by GoldenGopher2012 on Dec 6, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
So you're saying there's a chance...
Defensively, I think we could stand a chance. However, on the offensive side of the ball is where the problem lies. If the offensive keeps being as inept as it is currently, then we stand absolutely no chance. Improbable, not impossible. Weirder things have happened.
I think we all like what we've seen from the Chiefs defense the last 2+ games.
But the Packers Offense is a whole different beast. Espescially if the offense isn’t able to do diddly-squat (Foregone conclusion), I can see it being a 10-3 game at halftime, then proceeding to lose 44-3
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Even if the defense plays lights out, how is the offense going to score enough points?
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Run the ball well - stop committing drive-killing penalties
Hope the D gives us some good field position.
Some teams have played them close this year – most had a strong run attack. The teams that did manage to score high on them couldn’t put up the D to stop them though. It’s a long shot, but anything’s possible.
by Ochophosphate on Dec 6, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Just like the Pats game
I agree. Without any help, the D will eventually falter. You cannot hold back an offense like that for an entire game without some help in the form of TOP.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Hey Joel
The Pats went 16-0 along with Shula’s Dolphins
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
blah thanks. Forgot they had only 14 games then
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
only 1 difference...
The Dolphin’s went undefeated during that Season, the Pats lost the SB… sorry but it’s not a perfect season unless you win the SB, just like this year is the 2011 season…. meaning the season isn’t over till the Superbowl and since the Pats didn’t win the SB, then they weren’t undefeated cause they still lost that season… 18-1 is what their record was for that season, doesn’t matter if it’s the season or post-season and into the playoffs… Playoff games count towards you’re record unlike preseason
Defense Will Have to Practice Scoring
Only way we will even be in competition as long as Palko remains our QB. This game or any other.
That's not true!
…special teams could score for us, too
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Very Valid
But has that even happened this season? I love Arenas and he helps us win the field position battle more often than not but if he doesn’t take it to the house he should be aware a three & out by our offense is up next by now, right?
by Spiderwomn69 on Dec 6, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
So I was watching the MNF football game
and saw Rivers flip a 43yard td pass and I say to myself, “man he makes it look so easy.” I look back at the hail mary 38yarder and see Palko put all his weight into heaving that ball…what a disappointment.
I agree
When I saw Palko throw that ball I would have sworn he was heaving a 75 yarder. Then I see it was only a 38 yard td pass. That did not look good on his part.
I guess I seen it different.
I was amazed he was able to throw it 38 yards before the ball hit the ground.
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actually
He threw it from about the 45 i believe(could be wrong) and it went about 7 yards deep in the endzone…either way still amazed he could throw it that far and yes its pathetic that this throw took all his effort. I have said for a long time why cant we have a qb who can throw the ball 30 yards down field with no problem
38 Yards is A Lot!
Well, it’s a lot further than what I thought he could throw a hail mary…just sayin.
by Spiderwomn69 on Dec 6, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure how much of a "home" game this will be for us
Arrowhead was overtaken by Packer fans last time they played in 2008 and after the Pit game this year, I have a feeling it’s going to be even worse this time.
Yes, the Chiefs will beat the Packers...
And pigs will fly over a frozen-over Hell.
I love my Chiefs…but, let’s be serious here.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
i have
more faith in a fluke win vs GB, then KC winning the division.
Or winning a Playoff game with Cassel. (any year)
Cassel 3 games vs non playoff teams last year. 27 points
Palko 3 games vs Playoff teams 22 points
Cassel makes 63million.
Palko $480,000
My Packer buddy that is going to the game is actually hoping this happens.
He’s afraid to see them undefeated going into the playoffs and the last two times the Packers won the superbowl they lost in Arrowhead earlier in the year.
Chiefs will have opportunities to win, like most of our games...The big question will be, will they take advantage of them.
If we take advantages of turn overs we will win. Will Rodgers even play?
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by porkchop_sandwiches on Dec 6, 2011 12:24 PM CST reply actions
Couldn't stop Brady for four quarters
And they won’t stop the Pack either.
Maybe a good half but without long offensive drives that end in TD’s there is no way, short of a Pack meltdown, that the Chiefs can hang with these guys for four quarters. No defense could.
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Of course we can .
Just not with the worst qb in the NFL
by chiefsman! on Dec 6, 2011 12:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.
Defensively I think we match up pretty good.
Combine that with Crennels coverage first scheme and I think we can keep them to 20-25 points. Scoring will be the issue. With any luck Orton will be ready to start that week and then maybe but that’s a pretty big maybe.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Yep...
Studying it for not playing with us this year or next!
by Spiderwomn69 on Dec 6, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Right...
I can hear his future team’s GM, “Let’s get Orton so we can pick his brain on the secrets of Bill Muir’s high-octane offensive machine.”
by joplin chiefs fan on Dec 6, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
That should garner him at least another $1M on his next contract!
"Tyler's our starter." - Todd Haley
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because it is in large print!
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It was a LONG time ago
But I remember when the Redskins went into Dallas at, I believe, 15-0, and the Cowboys were 0-15, and the Cowboys won that game. So yes, stranger things have happened. Then again, I think Troy Aikman was QB of that 0-15 Cowboys team, in his rookie year. Even so, Aikman as a rookie >>>>>>>>>>>>Tyler Palko, at any point in his career.
The Redskins weren't 15-0.
But they were Dallas’ only victim that year.
"Tyler's our starter." - Todd Haley
chiefs are injuring all the stars on other teams
Both denvers running backs. Forte on the bears. I would watch out for aaron he could get clobbered
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by sexassassin on Dec 6, 2011 1:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Is Bernard Pollard available
on waivers? Would have been cool to see him knock out Brady again this year…
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Dec 6, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Jalil Brown has played pretty good against TEs lately.
Other then DJs blown coverage we wrapped up Gronkowski most of the game too.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Pretty good point
Jalil Brown did very well against Gronk that game. Arenas quieted Welker too. Oh boy. well I’m just gonna keep feeding myself negative thoughts so I don’t get my hopes up.
In an unrelated manner. Does everyone know we play the Jets this week not GB.
by RamX21 on Dec 6, 2011 2:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
haha..this is funny, I JUST said this.....
I posted on my FB this morning that with the remaining schedule I predict that we’ll finish 6-10 with the 1 win being Packers as the biggest upset of the season! I’m of course getting laughed at on my FB page, but that’s half the fun :)
I'm a Chiefs biatch, don't @$%& with my team!
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Dec 6, 2011 2:21 PM CST reply actions
Did I miss something? Did we get a new QB.
Did Joe Montana come in from a time machine or something. There is now way the Chiefs win another game this year. At least I hope not for there sake. They need to do some trading and move up in the draft and get RGIII if they ever want to win. There is no QB on this team that can beat GB. GB will have the home team advantage,. Yes I know it’s here but they will have more fans in the stands than the Chiefs.
We can beat Denver as well...
Stanzi Nation whoops Tebowmania.. boom that WILL happen
Max: Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? You talk to me.
Yeah, the defense won't lose that game for us.
If the Chiefs can hold GB to 20 they’ve done their job.
I don't think we can win this game.
However…
…The Chiefs have never lost a home game I have personally attended (including the 04 game against the Manning lead Colts). I will be at the game on December 18th so I hold out at least a ‘little’ hope that they can keep the steak up.
That said, there is a snowballs chance in hell we win this game. In the preseason our 1st string couldn’t perform against their backups and that was BEFORE we lost guys like Berry, Charles, Moeaki, and Cassel.
who cares, the play calling sucks no matter, what the chiefs can do
certain defensive sceams work great for the chiefs, that is the only thing good about the chiefs, there offense, is so confused, they can barely get the play off, i have no idea, what the hell, there plans are for the offense, but you would have, to be brain dead, not to throw all of your efforts into, trying to get this stagnet group going
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