Is Haley really comfortable with Palko as our starter? .The play selection really leads me to...

Is Haley really comfortable with Palko as our starter?
.The play selection really leads me to believe he isn't. It's hard to believe, but Palko has a weaker arm that Cassel and that's pretty bad. How many times did Palko throw farther than 10 yards?

Hopefully Orton can heal fast, I don't know how much longer I can stand watching Palko noodle arm throws all day to our RBs.

This should make for an interesting offseason in KC for sure. If Orton flourishes, do we resign him? Do we cut Cassel? Are we in position to draft a QB? (Barkley, RG3)? Do we trade up for them?

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Agreed

Those third and long plays showed me a lot — usually a quick out, shallow cross or a pass to the flat.

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by Joel Thorman on Dec 5, 2011 11:48 AM CST reply actions

I thought it was extremely evident

in the Pittsburgh game where he couldn’t even reach the receiver.

by ilamuku on Dec 5, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions

is that Palko underthrows receivers because of his lack of arm-strength. That hail mary pass (probably as far as Palko can throw) actually traveled 55+ yards in the air before being batted down by the leaping 6’4" Urlacher. That ball wouldve easily gone 60+ if it needed to. I know its semantics but I was hating on Palko’s arm strength myself until I saw that throw. I guess he’s got distance but not zip?

by KCJayhawk on Dec 5, 2011 11:52 AM CST reply actions

*Should read:

Is that Palko underthrows receivers, but not because of his lack of arm…etc

by KCJayhawk on Dec 5, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions

I would imagine he doesn't have the accuracy

And Haley may have been trying to eliminate the turnovers by limiting the yards thrown by Palko. Who knows, really. But it would seem he would have more strength than I gave him credit for, but I would strongly question the accuracy past 10 yards.

by EricaSp on Dec 5, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions

Look at this video 20 seconds in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiUKYaHGlzE

Stanzi throws the ball 50 yards with almost no effort. Why is this guy not playing?

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by jmcgoblue on Dec 5, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions

Agreed

If we are going to dink and dunk to avoid turnorvers, why not let Stanzi do it. You are getting him experience and he has the ability to make a big throw down field if needed. I don’t understand why we haven’t seen him over these last few games.

by BigChief43_IL on Dec 5, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions

any QB can throw it 50yds on a Hail Mary

when they get that big of a wind up

it’s the routine throws that he misses… those are the ones that show his bad arm

by stagdsp on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions

that says very little about actual arm strength . When is the last time you saw him throw a skinny or deep post or a deep out .?

by Willie Beamon on Dec 5, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions

oh god, it made me sick watching Aaron Rogers light up Detroit last night. he was hitting any and every throw he wanted. If any of our current QB’s hit ONE of those throws, i’d be amazed. Pretty sad huh?

by Iczer on Dec 5, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions

it made me sick watching Aaron Rogers light up ~~Detroit~~ New York last night.

There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.

by R2J_24 on Dec 5, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions

OR!

it made me sick watching ~~Aaron Rogers~~ Drew Brees light up Detroit last night.

There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.

by R2J_24 on Dec 5, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions

lol good catch, I meant New York, but Bree was lighting Detroit up last night too. Either way, It’d be nice if we had a QB who could make throws like they do.

by Iczer on Dec 5, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions

It’s just been getting brutal to watch. Our playbook was chopped in half yesterday and we gave Chicago every chance to win that game but our defense saved us. I think we had like 3 or 4 straight 3 and outs in the 4th quarter.

by Iczer on Dec 5, 2011 12:08 PM CST reply actions

Listening to 610...

Danny Parkins just made a great point that Scott Pioli should now realize what the biggest need on this team is…. QB. He just needs to identify which QB they want and “move mountains” to get him. If we’re picking at 12-14 and Pioli wants Barkley… Just say “f*ck it”. Package your 1st this year and next year and get your f*cking guy! Done and done….

Watching our defense play so awesome over the past 3 weeks, I think shows that we are so close to breaking through. We are 1 legit QB away. All the talent is there (except for O-line pieces & Safety depth)

There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.

by R2J_24 on Dec 5, 2011 12:11 PM CST reply actions 2 recs

This is EXACTLY how I feel.

by Chiefs447 on Dec 5, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions

I’m on board with this too. We have to take a chance sometime.

by Iczer on Dec 5, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions

This is why I'd do almost everything possible to bring Manning in

other than QB, this team is ready to win NOW.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Dec 5, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions

If he’s truly healed up and we could get him at a good price, I’d be up for this as well.

It’s pretty simple, we need drastic changes at QB. That HAS to be our focus this offseason.

by Iczer on Dec 5, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions

I agree it should be. Just not sure it will be

by Chiefs447 on Dec 5, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions

It BETTER be...

Pioli is REALLY snapping strings on the rope he’s hanging on. At some point you have to make BIG moves and show your dedication to your mission.. Winning the Super Bowl(s).

There is a fly in the ointment. The sh*t has hit the fan. The lion will speak.

by R2J_24 on Dec 5, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions

Manning and Wayne for picks and one of our WRs?

by kc571 on Dec 5, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions

rec'd, R2J

I don’t mind packaging 2 #1s for a franchise QB

and, i don’t think Pioli is dumb, at all… so I’m sure he realizes the need is there.

it’s just a matter of how he evaluates his options.

While we all want to see a #1 pick QB that “saves the franchise”… there ARE other ways to get a wining QB…

Maybe Pioli feels Cassel and Stanzi are enough to win, and he invests more in the OL?

Maybe he has his eye on a veteran QB? (though, I doubt it, because there isn’t much out there to get excited about, sans Peyton)

by stagdsp on Dec 5, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions

I'm comfortable with making a run at signing Matt Flynn and letting him compete with Stanzi.

Cassel will make good depth as qb3.

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by chief Stevie_k on Dec 5, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions

Especially with whispers of some of these guys returning for their senior years.

I am not comfortable trading multiple firsts with all the holes that need to be filed.

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by chief Stevie_k on Dec 5, 2011 8:57 PM CST up reply actions

you could tell after the chiefs got the lead they started playing "prevent" offense

because i’m sure they remember the 7 turnovers palko had the previous two weeks. i don’t believe haley thinks palko is good skill wise but he gives us a chance if he can manage the offense.(i.e. checks at the line, audibles, etc) and eliminate turnovers. something stanzi probably can’t do very well at this point and orton wasn’t ready for in this offense after 3 practices

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by kcguy on Dec 5, 2011 1:51 PM CST reply actions

Really? A QB is supposed to be able to pass the ball too. Palko is the epitomy of a checkdown QB. He’s thrown so many picks the first 2 weeks that he’s afraid to make a mistake. We don’t even have a solid RB to take some pressure off of him.

by Iczer on Dec 5, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions

My answer is in response to the title of the post

To which I’m saying I don’t think haley is comfortable with palko but he was even less comfortable with stanzi or orton both for different reasons. The game plan was simply play good defense and don’t make any mistakes on offense. They did that

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by kcguy on Dec 5, 2011 2:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Well he's just going to have to get comfortable with Stanzi or Orton....

Because right now Succop is our offensive scorer. We can’t rely on lucky halftime hailmarys being tipped and then intercepted by our wise receivers each week.

The defense has been great, but they’re still gonna give up fgs….and eventually TDs.

I don’t care how much of the playbook Orton knows or how much Stanzi isn’t prepared for…

Palko had 7 turnovers in 2 games. Either one would be hard pressed to duplicate that suckage.

Unprepared Orton/Stanzi+ way better arm better than prepared Alko with horrible arm. So much so, we should stop telling people they “throw like a girl” when they have wimpy arms, and instead tell them they “throw like a Palko.”

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by chief Stevie_k on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions