Kansas City Chiefs vs Bears: Breaking Down The O-Line Film
by Bewsaf on Dec 5, 2011 7:07 AM CST
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Week 13
The Kansas City Chiefs pick up a road win against the Chicago Bears, 10-3. The Chiefs move to 5-7 on the season and the Bears drop to 7-5.
This week Ryan Lilja returns and records an 84% run assignment grade with a +1 power score. This is the first game, all year, that Lilja has recorded a dominance score above zero. He also ended the day with a 96% passing assignment grade.
I liked how the lineman came out at the very start of the game...there was energy, attitude, and some effort. All the ingredients of a team, and an offensive line, that has some pride in how they perform every week. A week ago, the Bears played the Oakland Raiders and the grading results for their lineman was: LT 81% -1, LG 77% -1, C 79 +1, RG 77 -1, RT 82% +0. How did the Chiefs do compared to Chicago?
Let's take a look at the grades for the Chiefs...
| Team Run Blocking |
Power Blocking |
Power Blocking Score |
2nd Level Blocks |
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| Did the lineman get the job done or not? These grades are good for understanding value for a team and not necessarily for comparing across teams. A game in the mid 80s to 90% is a decent score. |
How often did the offensive lineman dominate the block or how often did he get dominated? These scores are good for comparing across teams and finding the most dominant lineman in the league. |
Anything over zero is a good score. The more over zero the more the lineman dominated the defender. Each lineman is scored a minus for being dominated, a zero for a draw, or a plus for dominating the defender. |
The number of successes over failures for the lineman when blocking linebackers and safeties on the second level. The lineman must be athletic to accomplish a high second level score. |
Run Blocking Grades
| Percent |
Grade Bar |
Power |
Pull |
2/Level |
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| Grade |  |
Blocking |
Blocks |
Blocks |
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Albert |
80% |
 |
-1 |
0 |
-2 |
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| Lilja |
75% |
 |
+1 |
+1 |
0 |
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| Wiegmann |
69% |
 |
-7 |
0 |
0 |
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| Asamoah |
76% |
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-1 |
-1 |
0 |
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| Richardson |
88% |
|
+1 |
0 |
+4 |
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| Hudson |
75% |
|
+1 |
+1 |
+1 |
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Run Blocking Notes:
- At 14:58 in the 1st quarter, the line has a nice surge off the ball. The runner doesn't get any yards due to a run blitz. But, I really like the movement the Chiefs were getting. Much better than the past 3 weeks.
- Ryan Lilja has a nice kick out block on a pull at 5:24 in the 1st quarter.
- If you would like to see how often the Chiefs ran at every line position how how well they did during the Steelers game, then go here.
- At 2:20 in the 2nd quarter, Barry Richardson gets beat on a run play and the defender make the tackle. You can see him in the pic, below. Unfortunately, McClain is their to pic up the defender, but misses also.
- Both Brandon Albert and Barry Richardson get beat on a run play and the back is tackled in the backfield.
- Brandon Albert and Ryan Lilja drive a defender inside at 9:04 in the 4th quarter. Its nice to see the Chiefs getting some movement on their blocks. You can see them in the pic, below. Wiegmann is at the bottom right of the screen with Lilja just on the other side of him. That is where they drove their defender.
- If you would like to see just where the Chiefs ran the ball and which receivers they targeted in each zone...then go here.
- At 11:44 in the 4th quarter, Steve Maneri comes in as a extra offensive tackle and lines up on the right side of the formation just outside of Barry Richardson.
- 14:54 in the 4th quarter, Branden Albert and Ryan Lilja drive a defender 5 yards down field. You can see them in the pic, below. They are at the bottom left of the screen. Unfortunately, Wiegmann's defender had beaten him into the backfield and the Chief's running back was tackled before he could take advantage of the double team block by Albert and Lilja.
- If you would like to see how the Chiefs linemen have done over the past games, then look here.
| Team Pass Blocking |
Passing Power Blocking |
Pressures | Combo Help |
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| Did the lineman get the job done or not? These grades are good for understanding value for a team and not necessarily for comparing across teams. A game in the 90% is a good score for pass blocking. |
How often did the offensive lineman dominate the block or how often did he get dominated? Each lineman is scored a minus for being dominated, a zero for a draw, or a plus for dominating the block. | How often did the offensive lineman give up pressure on the quarterback? Every once and a while a lineman can do his job but give up pressure on the QB. This stat will help glean more info from the line grades. |
How often did the offensive coordinator provide help for a tough defender or a struggling lineman. Yea, two lineman ended up with the same grade...but how much help did either of them get? |
Pass Blocking Grades
| Percent |
Grade Bar |
Power |
Pressures |
Sacks |
Combo |
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| Grade | |
Blocking |
Allowed |
Allowed |
Help |
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| Albert |
80% |
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-4 |
2 |
0 |
8 |
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| Lilja |
96% |
 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
8 |
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| Wiegmann |
94% |
|
-1 |
0 |
1 |
11 |
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| Asamoah |
96% |
|
+1 |
0 |
0 |
9 |
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| Richardson |
76% |
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-5 |
4 |
0 |
5 |
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| Hudson |
96% |
|
0 |
0 |
0 |
8 |
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Pass Blocking Notes:
- At 4:16 in the 1st quarter, Branden Albert is beat in pass protection. Albert gives up 2 pressures on the day and ends with a -4 dominance score.
- Jon Asamoah ends the day with a 96% passing assignment grade with a +1 dominance score. It is only the 2nd time this season that Asamoah has ended a game with a dominance score over zero.
- At 1:33 in the 2nd quarter, both Branden Albert and Barry Richardson get beat in pass protection.
- As always, the tight ends and backs grades are at Pro Football Spotlight. Click the button, below.
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Richardson's poop, but how do you think Lance Louis feels today after giving up a sack to Tyson?
"Why are all these people here? There are too many people on this earth. We need a new plague…"
-Dwight Schrute
I saw Barry get beat way too many times and commit way too many false start penalties.
Guy needs to be on the bench.
For who? Mims?
They’re clearly going to ride him through the end of this season. It is clear however that this team needs a tackle early in this coming draft. If there’s not a good QB there, the pick should be a tackle.
Curious
Great stuff Bews! Love it — rec’d.
I wonder if they start to give Mims some snaps to see what they have in him. I’d like to find out, since Richardson is having some lapses. BRich has seemed to have a number of bad games in a row lately, is that true? Could be I’m just exaggerating.
Also, Maneri is listed as a OT, but I doubt that we see him in there as a T without help (another T or TE). He seems to be a T/TE hybrid as an extra blocker and some time pass catcher. Curious Bews, do you really think Maneri could hold down a T spot on his own? He seems undersized for a T.
maneri has always been a T/TE
I think that’s his role, I doubt he plays T unless they are in a bind
by stagdsp on Dec 5, 2011 7:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Polomalu took himself out
trying to tackle an Ent like he was a running back or receiver.
Ancora imparo.
by midcalchief on Dec 5, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Asamoah seems to step up against the tougher competition. Don't know if I like that.
Kinda means he gets lazy the rest of the time.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I'd play it off to being a first year player...for now.
He’s just trying to make it through the season at this point…it would seem to me.
I couldn’t help but notice the one play where Weigmann had pulled to pick up the pash rusher, and whomever it was, the guy with the weird last name, just blew right past him and detroyed Palko. I couldn’t help but feel like that was the beginning of the end for him. He just looked slow and helpless on that play.
what do you make of the Lilja/ Hudson rotation?
by stagdsp on Dec 5, 2011 7:45 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Maybe Lilja is still hurt
or maybe they planned on bringing him back slow. I’m not sure what to think of it yet. If it continues then I might start thinking something else is going on.
Still not impressed
Sorry Fans,but im not impressed with that win.Yes a win is a win,its just that they was a little worst than the chiefs.We could of won last week also if we would of had any type of an offense.Baldwin needs to be more involved in the offense,he is very talented given a chance.Sorry Haley not Impressed.
Be impressed by the defense.
And Colquitt.
But not by the offense. Be depressed by that.
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Right
Yesterday only proved what we thought last week after the Steelers game. That is, the way this defense is playing, as long as the offense doesn’t turn the ball over, we can win.
We can be hopeful that as the offense plays more together, they will get better & better no matter who is playing QB (Palko or Orton).
Still think this offense...
is a solid QB and a tackle away from being a very solid to good offense.
I can't disagree.
May throw another interior lineman in there, as I don’t know that Lilja can hold up. So we’ll need a C/G (whichever Hudson ends up not taking over).
We’ve got a lot of weapons at the skill positions. I hope we bring back McClain for a longer term contract (and get the guy some more touches as well).
If we can solve the riddle at QB, and like you said – OT, we’re golden.
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the QB makes the offense go.
Our QB stinks. Heirgo our offense stinks. It has nothing to do with getting whoever else involved. So not being impressed by Haley is the wrong feeling to have. When Orton came in he obviously knew that he could throw the ball deep and attempted it, you can’t do that with Palko
by RamX21 on Dec 5, 2011 8:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
While that was an ugly win, and didn't really solve any problems on the offense (other than turnovers)...
I’ll still take the W, especially seeing how the defense and special teams took Chicago’s heart out. I don’t care if it is their 2nd string QB and RB…you have to make them surrender. Outside of the Barber formation error and Williams’ drop, they didn’t come close to a TD…our red zone D took care of that.
Also, not to be a jerk, but I don’t believe Haley is coaching to impress anyone, I think he’s coaching for wins. (Whether that’s really working out for him/us is another story).
"I’m still waiting to get my first sympathy card about all this. Nobody else cares that we lost our quarterback. They’re just out there waiting to kick our butt. So you can be an ostrich and keep your head in the sand, or you can realize we’ve suffered a dramatic injury here and we can’t just fall down and let everybody kick us in the face."
-Bill Muir
This is the first time I've looked at this
I understand the numbers and all, but what is good and what is bad? An 80% grade looks bad to me.
80% is kind of bad for the O-Line
Execution should be much higher. If you were taking an exam in the U.S. public education system, and 80% would be considered above average. But think about if you were a surgeon and you could only execute 80% of the time — not good enough.
Or even just look at yourself in your daily job, and say if were only able to execute it 80% of the time, wouldn’t you be fired?
Point being, these are professionals at playing O-Line and 80% execution is really pretty bad. Our O-Line needs some work, but I think it is fixable.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
Just about every NFL offensive lineman grades out around to 80% on the average (in run blocking). There is such a fine line between bad, good, and great in the NFL.
Run blocking 73%-85% is a typical NFL day. Below that is a bad day and above that is great. But that is the consistency (which is the %) and then there is the dominance/power score. For dominance, +0 is NFL average…below that (into the minus) is not good (with below -3 being a bad day), and above zero is good.
Pass Blocking…average is 84%-90% and above that is a very consistent day. Power scores for pass blocking are the same as the run blocking. The key to pass blocking (for the pro bowl player) is the dominance/power score.
Hope that helps
I like these posts.
i check them out every week. But – and i’ll appologize ahead of time out of respect for your dedication – these stats don’t have a down and distance reference to them. THey don’t have a get this block and we score context. If these breakdowns occur on big downs, and they are all too often, there should be something bigger on the stat sheet. Third and short and then a false start. Big play get’s us inside the 40 and then gives up a sack to get us out of field goal range. multiple 3 and outs in a row – failing to adjust to what the defense is doing…
just sayin.
Your right
These grades don’t show that. But then again, neither does typical rushing stats, passing stats, or receiving stats. I suppose the same complaint could be made for those as well.
Those stats would be something you would have to go to our website to find out….but not until next season. (sorry)
With our left-handed QB, Richardson is essentially our left guard.
In that light I don’t know that he has been terrible.
"An atheist is a man who watches a Notre Dame - Southern Methodist University game and doesn't care who wins." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
Not left guard, he is essentually the left TACKLE
The blind side protector, which he has been HORRIBLE
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 5, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
yep fail
"An atheist is a man who watches a Notre Dame - Southern Methodist University game and doesn't care who wins." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
by electriclight on Dec 5, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
They got a QB hurt on 1 play - they fail
Richardson is terrible and needs to be replaced. Next year i could do with 3 new lineman, Richardson, Lilja, and Weigmann. I like Weigmann and Lilja but Weigmann seems to have lost a step and Lilja just seems to get overpowered a lot. Hudson, Asamoah, and Albert can stay but we need 2 others for sure.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
to be clear
that play wasn’t on Richardson… or really the OL… that was a S on a blitz, should have been picked up by a RB/FB/TE
Nope.
RB had the ball, faked the run then tossed it back. They had to sell the run to make the flea flicker work. No way RB / FB pick up that blitz.
Hudson blew that one. He was double teaming / combo help with Wiegs. He turned his back on the gap (as Bewsaf pointed out in his eval) – and only saw the safety after he blew past, too late.
Here’s a link to the replay
Pause around the 0:18-0:19 mark.
That’s Hudson’s to pick up.
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thanks for the clarification
but, still not on Richardson :)
I agree that Hudson, Asamoah and Albert are the core of the future of the OL
AND
that 2 more good O-Linemen are needed…
Yeah. Just a rookie mistake by Hudson. It's going to happen.
It was a delayed safety blitz too. So Hudson was already committed to his double team.
Terrible luck / timing for us, since a flea flicker takes a bit to develop. Worst possible timing for that delayed safety blitz.
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yeah, sometimes they just send one too many guys for the OL to block
so, NORMALLY that’s the RBs guy… except he was in the process of pitching the ball
Again though, Hudson was double teaming. He's available to slide off his block and pick up the blitzer.
He just had his back turned to the gap, and that’s bad positioning. Especially on a play where you know it’s going to go back to the QB for a long pass.
He just engaged his first assignment then got tunnel vision. There were definitely enough bodies to pick up the blitzer.
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That was on Wiegmann actuall
He could not handle his man at all, and Hudson had to chip in to help leaving a wide open lane for Major Wright to sack Orton.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 5, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
If we had a Center that could handle himself
Then we wouldn’t have a rookie LG worrying not only about him, but about incoming blitz packages and several other things all at once. He’s not paying attention to his job, because others can’t do theirs properly.
This is the biggest problem with this team that I see currently, and its part of the reason why we’ll have games where all facets are downright terrible. At least IMHO. How can you be a team, if you can’t trust the man next to you to do his job?
Especially on that play, which was a flea flicker. If Hudson didn’t chip in to help, that play could’ve gotten blown up at the RB position instead of a sack on Orton.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 5, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Stag, i wasn't necessarily saying that play was on Richardson
I think that play was more on the O-line than on the RB for much the same reasons listed below. I am more making a statement that our o-line can’t protect squat. I did say Richardson was terribly right after saying they got the QB hurt but I wasn’t trying to imply it was his fault. I have seen the replay but hadn’t looked at it to see who was to blame.
I’m also mostly saying that I think Richardson, Weigmann and Lilja need to be changed out next year. I think Lilja could stay a bit if needed, he’s servicable and as much as I like Weigmann I think he is at the point in his career he would make a great backup but his physical limitations (Size, strength) are catching up with him.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
Yellow flag.
Ref signals and says "holding’ before he gets any more words out I’m saying “#67” . Sure enough.
You Play to Win the game!!!
Overall sucky line play.
Our OTs get blown past by speed rush and Inside guys can’t handle bull rushes nor do well with straight ahead power blocks on short yardage. This takes a lot away from available offensive plays. BRich waves the red cape way too often. Albert seems to miss too often to be called dependable, C/OGs are overmatched too often by bigger stronger D-Line guys. ZBS works well at times but not often enough to put fear in opponents.
Needs to be addressed in FA and Draft.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
I'm actually okay with our line play
Was it bad, well yeah, but the Bears DL is one of the best in the business and very deep. Our OL, well, isn’t so I thought we did an okay job dealing with the Bears.
Sucks that Orton broke his finger.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
Oh of course it can be better
But I don’t expect all-pro performances on our line, apparently others do but I temper my expectations. Especially with Lilja/Wiegmann still starting games.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 5, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
exactly
Lilja and Weigmann general do enough to keep from hurting the offense.
Barry tends to find ways to hurt them more often, though
Ah I forgot about BRich
Lump him in there to, he’s definitely apart of the problem.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 5, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
Great info and analysis as always Bewsaf - thanks!
and rec’d
Just confirms what I suspected before the season started and have maintained all along…and I totally agree with the others who’re saying we need to replace 3 on the OL…once we do, methinks the offense will improve considerably.
I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...
Just 2 need replaced
Albert, Asamoah, Hudson all will be on the line for years to come IMO
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 6, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
exactly.
I’m still reeling over seeing Gaither look like a competant starting LT last night.
i would have been much happier going into the draft with him returning to KC as a possible starter
He didn't look great out there, he looked like a solid starter though
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 6, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
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