Chief's 2012 projected free agents

by vplus10 on Dec 30, 2011 9:49 AM CST

I have been seeing a lot of posts recently about who we should get rid of and who we should keep. I did a quick search on this site and did not find a consolidated list of the projected free agents that we would have after the 2011 league year. I did a quick google search and I am by far not an expert on anything, I found a website (www.spotrac.com) that had all of the information consolidated (hopefully up to date) and thought I would share the list and a few thoughts after the jump.

Name / Position	Contract	End year	FA year
Thomas Jones at Running Back	2 yr/$5,000,000	2011	2012
Reshard Langford at Cornerback	1 yr/$480,000	2011	2012
Quinten Lawrence at Wide Receiver	3 yr/$1,275,000	2011	2012
Jovan Belcher at Linebacker	3 yr/$1,185,000	2011	2012
LeRon McClain at Running Back	1 yr/$1,500,000	2011	2012
Jon McGraw at Safety	1 yr/$810,000	2011	2012
Dwayne Bowe at Wide Receiver	5 yr/$9,000,000	2011	2012
Brandon Carr at Cornerback	1 yr/$2,610,000	2011	2012
Anthony Becht at Tight End	1 yr/TBD	2011	2012
Kyle Orton at Quarterback	2 yr/$11,621,000	2011	2012
Wallace Gilberry at Defensive End	1 yr/$1,835,000	2011	2012
Cory Greenwood at Linebacker	1 yr/$385,000	2011	2012
Kelly Gregg at Defensive Tackle	1 yr/$3,500,000	2011	2012
Ricky Price at Cornerback	1 yr/$405,000	2011	2012
Barry Richardson at Tackle	1 yr/$1,835,000	2011	2012
Brandon Siler at Linebacker	1 yr/TBD	2011	2012
Ryan Succop at Kicker	3 yr/$1,200,000	2011	2012
Verran Tucker at Wide Receiver	1 yr/$405,000	2011	2012
Jerheme Urban at Wide Receiver	1 yr/$640,000	2011	2012
Casey Wiegmann at Center	1 yr/$2,500,000	2011	2012

My big take aways were as follows:

-Several of the "lightning rod" players contracts will be up, namely Barry Richardson, Thomas Jones, and John McGraw.

- I see a potential that Succop gets a deal this offseason

- Biggest names on the list Bowe and Carr, I would love to see both back but wouldn't be surprised to see one or both gone

- Fringe guys to bring back in my opinion Orton (compete for starting gig) Belcher (depth), McClain (starting FB), and possibly Langford (depth).

There you have it, what is your opinion, nased on the list of our own FA who would you want back, glad to see go, and other thoughts?

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Price and Tucker were released early in the year.

They might be back but I doubt it.

Succup will get re-signed…hopefully we get Orton under contract.

I think another guy to get signed on this list is Cory Greenwood. He has been pretty good on special teams, and I’m surprised we haven’t seen him more at lb this year.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 30, 2011 10:15 AM CST reply actions

Really havn't heard Greenwoods name on ST as much lately

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions

I like Greenwood alot.

But I would love to hear that he’s gone because that hopefully means he was expendable because Belcher is back in a depth/ST role.

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by GenericBrand on Dec 30, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not sure anyone has a real good feel for Greenwood other than being a STer

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 31, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions

I think we can tender Succop and Greenwood. Can someone tell me if you can still do that with the new CBA? Carr has to be re-signed right after the season so we can tag Bowe. I think Pope and Gordan might be free agents, but their contracts were undisclosed. If they are up probably a good idea to keep them since they are cheap and needed. I think the only good player we let walk is Gilberry. McClain will be interesting, do they give him a long term deal or go with Bannon next year?

by Crown Chief on Dec 30, 2011 10:22 AM CST reply actions

Pretty sure both are restricted

There are 2 tags IIRC could tag both Bowe and Gilberry

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions

RESIGN ASAP to focus on Free Agency & 2012 Draft:

Belcher, Bowe, Carr, Succop, McCain, Gilberry, & Orton

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Clark Hunt & Pioli, get some KING KONG BALLS and move up to draft a QB in the 1st RD of the 2012 NFL Draft: RG3 or Luck.

by ChiefsatWar on Dec 30, 2011 11:01 AM CST reply actions

How big of a loss would you say Gilberry would be?

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions

The nice thing with Gilberry is we know what he's capable of if he gets back to his old role

And his bad year should make him that much cheaper.

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by GenericBrand on Dec 30, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions

Who knows a 4-3 team might still overpay for him

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 31, 2011 8:57 AM CST up reply actions

No more...

than any other d-lineman, no less neither.

by 12t on Dec 30, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions

He has been one of the better pass rushers on this team..

Hard to call that loss the same as Edwards was..

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 31, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions

if they did trade Dorsey

Jackson could move and his spot filled with a Gilberry/Bailey/Gordon combo, no? Wasn’t Gilberry’s year in 2010 come filling in for Jackson on the left side of the line?

sooner or later, God'll cut you down...

by nmchief on Dec 30, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions

Gilberry subed for Jackson during passing downs... ie nickle packages.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 30, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions

that was this year

last year, if I recall correctly, Gilberry started for Jackson the 4 games TJax missed due to injury. Maybe I’m mistaken.

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by nmchief on Dec 30, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions

Nope that was Shaun Smith.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 30, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions

The one time Gilberry started in the base IIRC

It was against the Browns who ran all over us

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 31, 2011 8:57 AM CST up reply actions

Wasn't that when Gilberry subbed for Dorsey because he was injured?

(I believe this was before TJax was drafted?)

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 31, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions

Tjax was LDE in that game, his rookie year, the year we switched to the 3-4

Yes he was in for an injured Dorsey. I think that was his only start in the base for us though, otherwise he has been out in most subpackages

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 31, 2011 9:10 AM CST up reply actions

Dur, I wasn't quite awake... for some reason I was thinking we were running a 4-3

All I remember is that we really missed Dorsey in the run game that day.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 31, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions

Keep Jackson at LDE

Possibly Bailey/Gilberry at RDE where they could get more 1 on 1 match ups with Hali knifing into the backfield, and hopefully they can beat the guard

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 31, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions

I would resign McGraw as well.

He’s not a starter by any means, but he’s shown the ability to contribute in limited time, and compare the defense when he plays to when someone like Piss-poor-catelli or Donald Washington is in there. He makes a quiet difference.

That to me, is the perfect definition of back-up.

by DanielH123 on Dec 30, 2011 11:02 AM CST reply actions

With zero depth at safety, keeping McGraw should be a no-brainer.

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by electriclight on Dec 30, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions

Or a better idea -- sign someone better to replace him and add players to create depth

Nicknames I have coined:

Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'

by Nick Britt on Dec 31, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions

Sign anybody going into camp, sure.

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by electriclight on Jan 1, 2012 6:00 AM CST up reply actions

Wow

I didn’t realize Belcher and Succop both needed contracts. Both deserve them, I think, especially Succop. There is better than Belcher out there but he’s adequate and shows flashes every once in a while. He’s not a liability.

Of course Orton, McClain, Bowe, and Carr need to be re-signed. We’d be ignorant to let any of them go.

Gregg, Richardson, and McGraw would be good for depth if those positions aren’t fully addressed. None of them deserve a starting job though.

I don’t think any of the rest are critical. In fact, some have really outstayed their welcome.

TOUCHDOWN! KAN-SAH-CITY!!!

by TheScootness on Dec 30, 2011 11:57 AM CST reply actions

Didn't take long to get Succop taken care of.

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by electriclight on Dec 31, 2011 1:59 AM CST up reply actions

Quinten Lawrence made more $$ than Belcher?

I wish we had tried to get more out of the $1.5 mil from McClain this year. He needs a contract.

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by electriclight on Dec 30, 2011 1:32 PM CST reply actions

I'm starting to get a real sick feeling

about entering the offseason with Bowe and Carr both UFAs…

sooner or later, God'll cut you down...

by nmchief on Dec 30, 2011 7:18 PM CST reply actions

I can easily see a scenario where they franchise and trade Bowe

and lose Carr outright. Bad, bad juji.

sooner or later, God'll cut you down...

by nmchief on Dec 30, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions

scratch Succop off the list

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by upamtn on Dec 31, 2011 1:39 AM CST reply actions

Should be in for a busy offseason

Because only three of these guys are “must resigns” in Bowe, Carr, and Succop (already locked up).

I would like them to re-sign Richardson as a BACKUP swing tackle, but not a long-term deal. Same for Belcher.

Would also like to see McClain back on something like a 2-year deal. We haven’t utilized him in short-yardage situations, which I thought was why we brought him in here.

Nicknames I have coined:

Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'

by Nick Britt on Dec 31, 2011 1:15 PM CST reply actions