More Votes Of A Romeo Crennel-Josh McDaniels Setup With The Chiefs

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2011 9:01 AM CST

The Kansas City Chiefs coaching search hasn't received much play in the NFL media world mostly because there isn't a whole lot going on until the end of the season. Romeo Crennel, who certainly appears to be the favorite, has said he will receive an interview for the full-time job after the season so that's when things will really get going.

Since then, we've seen a number of names thrown out -- Jeff Fisher (unlikely), Kirk Ferentz (staying at Iowa), Bill O'Brien (a new one) and Josh McDaniels (under contract in St. Louis). And it's that last one, McDaniels, that's received the most attention.

We've seen a number of reporters bring up the idea of this "succession plan" in Kansas City. Essentially, Crennel gets the full-time job now and, assuming he's fired from St. Louis with the rest of Steve Spagnuolo's staff, McDaniels comes into KC as an offensive coordinator. GM Scott Pioli then has an experienced guy he knows at the head coaching position in Crennel and a young up-and-comer on the staff as a "coach-in-waiting" type of deal.

Don Banks of SI.com has this theory in his must-read look at Black Monday, and I've seen others, like Jason La Canfora just last night, mention it.

I think having a "succession plan" might be over-thinking it a little bit. The Chiefs just need to nail this head coaching hire, whether that's Romeo, or someone else. No need to plan things out multiple years down the line, if you ask me. If Romeo doesn't work out, that'll be two head coaches GM Scott Pioli has hired that didn't work out. At that point, would Clark Hunt automatically give Pioli the right to hire McDaniels, the third head coach in his tenure? I'm not sure that would be the case, at least we don't know that now.

I'm not saying I totally disagree with McDaniels-to-KC -- at least I can see the football reasons it makes sense -- but I don't want to see it sold as this coach-in-waiting type of thing. McDaniels is still too toxic, as Banks notes, and that's a tough sell right now if he were to come to KC.

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Please God...

Keep Josh McDaniels far, far away from my team.

In any capacity.

Thank you.

My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.

by Scott B. on Dec 30, 2011 9:05 AM CST reply actions 5 recs

Amen!!!!

by cowboyChief on Dec 30, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions

For football reasons it makes sense ???

How??? What has he done in Denver or St Louis to even remotely make any one think he’s all that good ?

Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.

by Hoochdawg on Dec 30, 2011 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

His offense in Denver was solid.

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by Tarkus on Dec 30, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions

Gave Brandon Marshall his best year as a receiver. Made Orton good. Made Brandon Lloyd good. Gave Correll Buckhalter a career renaissance. Responsible for Decker and Thomas. Blahblahblah notlikeyoucaringaboutwhatIsayanywaybecauseyou’vealreadyformedyouropinion. And had the best play-action in the league despite having no running game.

Think about that last one. If you know anything about football, you’ll understand why that’s relevant.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions

That is a bigggggggggg word

notlikeyoucaringaboutwhatIsayanywaybecauseyou’vealreadyformedyouropinion

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions

You are reaching

I don’t know how you can say he made all these players better based on half a season, yet completely ignore the utter collapse of the team for the remaining season and a half.

by old_school on Dec 30, 2011 11:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs

Well I know enough to know I'm not impressed

and your correct Idontcarewhatyouhavetosayanyhow. Orton made Marshall look better, and I’m just not that impressed , I think that thers better options out there . especially after the season ends .

Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.

by Hoochdawg on Dec 30, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Since Mike McCoy was othe OC and QB coach I'de say he had something to do with

Offensive Success under McDaniel.

by Bigcherokeechief on Dec 31, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions

God's not listening to you...

He’s busy game planning with Tebow. Sorry.

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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Dec 30, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Considering the Mcdaniels hire could only happen if he is fired from St louis

Why speculate further until he is at least available?

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by RememberDelaney37 on Dec 30, 2011 9:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions

I think people are saying its highly probable he is let go

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Chiefs fan dont die, even when Clark Hunt pulls the trigger. You aint going NOWHERE

by Jay Cotton on Dec 30, 2011 9:16 AM CST up reply actions

and there's a reason he's probably being let go ...

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by upamtn on Dec 30, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Because the head coach is being fired?

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by Tarkus on Dec 30, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions

Why not?

Don’t we and the media speculate all the time?

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by Tarkus on Dec 30, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions

Fixes all our problems

Take the team that’s #31 in scoring this season and in order to fix their problems hire the Offensive Coordinator from the team that is #32 in scoring this season…what is the problem with that.

by Jawookie on Dec 30, 2011 9:16 AM CST reply actions

I'm sure all the injuries the Rams have had, and the lack of an offseason to learn the offense had nothing to do with that

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Dec 30, 2011 9:25 AM CST up reply actions

Watch a few games.. the play calling sucks

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions

And you would what good playcalling is, eh?

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions

Josh?

Is that you? You’re sucking it up, man. You also cheat like a mug.

by bossmanham on Dec 30, 2011 11:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

How does a mug cheat?

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.

by KingChief on Dec 30, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions

Haha come on now, you can do better than that if you are attempting to troll or get a rise outta me

Having 7 plays at the 1 yard line in a game.. and not giving the ball to Jackson? Hell even keeping him off of the field? Yeah that worked oh so well

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions

This!

Perfect example of complete ineptitude.

by bossmanham on Dec 30, 2011 11:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Exactly.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions

Same could be said for us! We lost our coach

I was never in favor of getting rid of Haley, for the same reasons. It’s a testement to Haley for even having us in first! Mcdaniels is a nightmare

by ed2k on Dec 30, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions

If Pioli picks another HC that fails

He and that HC will be shown the door

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.

by KingChief on Dec 30, 2011 9:17 AM CST reply actions

Exactly.

And Pioli knows this. And that is why McDaniels will not happen.

by KCMizzou on Dec 30, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions

Can he bring Bradford with him?

by JaySoy on Dec 30, 2011 9:30 AM CST reply actions

I see it hapenening

and adding Spags as the DC too

by Ren on Dec 30, 2011 9:47 AM CST reply actions

Spags is a pure 4-3 guy, can't see that happening

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions

I heard he may be heading back to NYG

if Perry Fewell gets a HC gig

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by KingChief on Dec 30, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions

If it goes down like that

I will lose pretty much all faith in Pioli’s way of doing things. The exclusive hiring of connections smacks of no creativity or faith in his own assessment of what is really out there. But if McD really does come here and have success beyond expectations, I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

by old_school on Dec 30, 2011 10:07 AM CST via mobile reply actions

I hate him because he coached the Donkeys.

Honestly, what other reason do I need?

Faithless is he who says farewell when the road darkens...

by 5280ChiefsFan on Dec 30, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions

Dammit, this was supposed to reply to the post below.

Faithless is he who says farewell when the road darkens...

by 5280ChiefsFan on Dec 30, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions

That's the best reason to like him.

You know he’ll be fired up every time the Chiefs play them.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions

Why does everyone hate McDaniels?

Is it because of the incident with Haley? if this is the case you should reconsider after seeing how Haley ended up with KC. Do you hate him because he got rid of players? Because he is arrogant? Im just trying to figure why everyone hates McDaniels?

by Family Chief on Dec 30, 2011 10:09 AM CST reply actions

The only thing he has really ever done

is ride the coattails of one of the best offenses ever assembled in New England.

by old_school on Dec 30, 2011 10:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Who called the plays on that team? Tell me.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions

Wow, really?

You think having Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Wes Welker, and a good offensive line isn’t going to make any playcaller look great?

by old_school on Dec 30, 2011 11:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Charlie Weis?

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Dec 30, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions

I can tell you who's calling them in St. Louis.

The guy is a disaster.

by bossmanham on Dec 30, 2011 11:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Took a SB winning team.. and couldn't win the big game

Destroyed the Donks
Sucks with the Rams

What else do you need to know?

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions

Well how about all of the above?

Of course the incident with Haley was huge, the dude did ILLEGAL things. And yes he did a great job of getting rid of most of his talent on his team, im sure with time the rest would have been gone. Also yes he’s arrogant and who wants an old coach from the Donkeys who has a crazy fist pump.

I eat success for breakfast....with skim milk.

by ChiefRoyal on Dec 30, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions

McDaniels never did anything illegal.

Actually, the most illegal thing he did was being too loyal to his employee, because HE NEVER WATCHED THE TAPE.

And yes he did a great job of getting rid of most of his talent on his team, im sure with time the rest would have been gone

Did he get rid of Ryan Clady? Champ Bailey? Elvis Dumervil? If McDaniels got rid of all the talent, what is bringing in Brandon Lloyd? Brian Dawkins? Erik Decker?

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions

Just saw that I got responses on this...

But I guess thank you for agreeing? I said “over time the rest would be gone” I never said all fo the talent was out. Also Erik Decker was a nobody, Brian Dawkins is definitely on his back 9 of playing, and Brandon Lloyd is no Brandon Marshall.

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by ChiefRoyal on Jan 18, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions

Additional comment:

who has a crazy fist pump

This is the stupidest reason not to hire someone I’ve heard all day. That’s like me wanting Indian food but complaining that it’s too spicy.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions

Also I find it hilarious that you took my joke about fist pumping so seriously

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by ChiefRoyal on Jan 18, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions

Everyone hates McDaniels because it's the cool thing to do.

Take my advice here, because I know what I’m saying. It’s groupthink. ESPN says McDaniels doesn’t know what he’s doing – therefore, it must be true.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions

Since you want to argue with everybody who has brought up reasons

Why don’t you tell us what McDaniels has done besides call the plays for an all star lineup one year.

by old_school on Dec 30, 2011 11:22 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Wasn't McDaniels the offensive coordinator for the Pats from the time Weis went to Notre Dame until the time McD was hired by Denver?

if that is correct, he presided over some of the most impressive offenses the league has ever seen.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions

'06 thru '08

Actually, the offense didn’t really take off until the ’07 season, when they picked up both Moss and Welker. And then you have the ’08 season with Cassel, but the weapons were there.

by old_school on Dec 30, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions

So, with this line of thinking

McDaniels was only a good OC in NE because he had an all star lineup. Then, can we also say that Cassel was only a good QB in NE for the same reason. I mean, much like McDaniels, Cassel has looked like crap since he left NE.

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by ChiefWildcat on Dec 30, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions

Really. Cassel 27 td's 7 int's Pro Bowl

Alot of Qb’s wish they would be this crappy!!

by ed2k on Dec 30, 2011 6:37 PM CST up reply actions

The thing with Haley.

You say we see how Haley ended up. Cause we have a dumb GM! You don’t fire your coach after winning a divison. Not Haley’s fault, so what’s your point!

by ed2k on Dec 30, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

I would much rather have Norv Turner as our OC

and then maybe bring in McD as a QB coach

by readANDgold58 on Dec 30, 2011 10:16 AM CST reply actions

Really???

McDaniels at QB coach, Norv Turner as OC….Shit, why don’t we hire Tom Cable as linebackers coach then and we can have a coaching staff of AFC-West Castoffs…

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by ChiefsatWar on Dec 30, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions

Cable can be Oline coach...

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions

it is better than our current staff

by readANDgold58 on Dec 30, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions

While I'd much rather see O'Brien as the OC

This is really not as bad as it sounds. We have bemoaned the tension between Haley and his coaching staff and here could be a staff that knows each other well, has faith in one another and could be successful. Rather than keep wishing for guys that won’t come here, I can at least come to grips with having an actual offensive mind be our OC. Forget the ranks of St Louis. If you do that, then Dom Capers should be fired from the 31st ranked defense I’m Green Bay, correct? No.

by Steve_in_RI on Dec 30, 2011 10:21 AM CST reply actions

Dom Capers has a track record of good defenses with mutliple teams

McDaniels took over a good offense in NE and has failed since he has left there

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by KingChief on Dec 30, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions

He had a good offense in Denver.

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by Tarkus on Dec 30, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions

I like you.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions

The question becomes

Is O’Brien’s success the byproduct of having Tom Brady?

by old_school on Dec 30, 2011 10:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Now, that's a great comment.

If McDaniels is a byproduct of NE, then everyone else must be subject to the same scrutiny.

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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions

Not sure what your problem is today

Arguing just to argue? I brought up a good point. A great quarterback is always going to make the offense, offensive coordinator, and even the head coach look better. If you don’t agree with that, why not give your own take instead of bashing others?

by old_school on Dec 30, 2011 11:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

According to Pats fans O’Brien has held the offense back.

by Topchief1 on Dec 30, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions

NO McDaniels

because bring in McDaniels indicates we are going to keep and start Orton or Cassel, and we won’t even attempt to land RG3, Luck, or even Landry Jones….

So, please no!!!

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by ChiefsatWar on Dec 30, 2011 10:30 AM CST reply actions 1 recs

Bullshit.

Here’s a fact, from an actual source:

Sam Bradford was the QB McDaniels wanted to draft. He knew he had no chance, of course, but that’s the guy he wanted. And Orton was on the team at the time.

That right there blows your theory out of the water. McDaniels will bring in whatever player makes the team better. If that means taking Luck and trading Cassel or whatever, that’s a move he will make. Now… if keeping Orton or Cassel and drafting a stud WR makes the team better instead, that’s the path he will take. (And take this from someone that knows: no amount of Luck standing on his head will do any good without a good line and WRs.)

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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 30, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions

Yes cause if we retain Bowe.. thats what we should do.. draft another WR

Wait.. why would you even bring up the draft? That is Pioli

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions

How do you know what josh will do?

Unless…

Quit shilling for the job here on ap, McDumbiels! We don’t want you!

by bossmanham on Dec 30, 2011 11:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Btw.. does look like Luck does pretty good without good WRs

Then again.. what do I know?

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions

Here we go again, another "inside source"

Tell sullywa2 I said hi.

by old_school on Dec 30, 2011 11:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

AHAHAHAHAHAHA The person in charge of running the offense that is the worst in the NFL

Yeah sure he is an upgrade over our OC, who landed us the 2nd worst offense in the NFL, but come on

Josh needs to retire to scouting because he is a terrible fvcking coach.

we need to burn down arrowhead if he’s even so much as interviewed

by CorFueled on Dec 30, 2011 11:31 AM CST reply actions

Josh just needs to get back with an Elite QB who pretty much does everything for him

Doesn’t need power, or a lot of control.. things go very bad when that happens.. see Denver also Rams

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 30, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions

If Crennel is not retained as a head coach, there is only 1 man I want to see leading this team. And that man is Mike Zimmer.

by Topchief1 on Dec 30, 2011 1:44 PM CST reply actions

I would just like to point out

that the following sentence was in this article:

No need to plan things out multiple years down the line, if you ask me.

worst, advice. ever.

by malgorthewarrior on Dec 30, 2011 2:27 PM CST reply actions

Depends on the situation

When you’re talking about a normal business, you’re absolutely right.

When you’re talking about building an NFL roster, you’re correct once again.

But when you’re talking about getting your coaching staff together, I’d beg to differ. Yeah, it’s nice to try and get all of your ducks in a row, and planning definitely helps in a collegiate setting where you have to recruit players and having the players know what is going to happen from year to year while they are on campus is a nice selling point. But the NFL is such a different beast in that regard. The only reason you need to get that kind of plan set up is if you have a top-flight coach (think Belichick, Walsh, or Parcells) and a crew of talented assistant coaches and coordinators around them who you want to try and retain until the HC decides to call it a career. When you’re talking about bringing in an HC who is somewhat of an unknown quantity like Romeo Crennel (he did OK in Cleveland and yes, it was Cleveland, but he didn’t knock socks off) and the coordinator in question has the HC equivalent of “Captain, LZ 129 Hindenburg” on his resume, you might want to allow a little fluidity there and not stick too hard to a 5-year retention plan.

by Tortfeasor58 on Jan 1, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions

i just dont know about this.

i dont care if new england won 7 super bowls in 10 years. its not the same. this is kansas city. the chiefs. not the patriots. i suppose a good coach is a good coach but i’m just not crazy about it.

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by be cee on Dec 30, 2011 2:31 PM CST reply actions

Look at realistically..

What is going to happen is Pioli is going to go the play it safe and the only way he know how to do football…the “Patriot Way”, so he is going to go hard core “Patriot Way”…

1.Will make Romeo the HC/DC, do to the players really like him , and he was one of the “founders” of the “Patriot Way”, had has the Defense play the way he likes and playing well…

2.Will one way or another get McDaniels as a OC do to his routes and he knows and been PRODUCTIVE with both Orton and Cassel…

3.Will re-signing Orton on a 3 or so contract and make Cassel really fight for his job again after a couple year of being handed the starting job…

4.After training came with trade the losers of the battle to the highest bitter of $$$ and draft pick…we see this ever year in NE….

5. If he can get McDaniels we will talk to Bill and give him wait he wants for Bill O’Brien…

by Alex Humphries on Dec 30, 2011 3:09 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

Josh McDaniels

I like the idea of Josh as OC. He is the one who made Cassell have a career year with NE. He made Orton have a career year with Denver. If he would of stayed with Denver 1 to 2 more years, it would of been interesting. The offensive line they have were Josh’s pick’s, except for Clady who missed most of last year with an injury. His defense was decimated by injuries also, Dumervill just for one example.

Got rid of Cutler (head case/quitter) 2 first round picks
Got rid of Hillis who’s true colors came out in Cleveland this year. Yes you can argue that Hillis rushed for over 1000 yards, but Moreno who was injured part of last year, and only averaged 1/10th of a yard less per carry than Hillis did.
Traded Marshall (head case) not worth 10 million a year. 2 second round picks

He was railroaded by Elway and Ellis. I could go on, but do some research and you’ll see.

by hvyduty on Jan 2, 2012 4:34 PM CST reply actions