Chiefs Have Tweaked Their Offense Under Kyle Orton

by Joel Thorman on Dec 29, 2011 4:46 PM CST

No surprise here but the Denver Broncos defensive coordinator says he's noticed the Kansas City Chiefs have tweaked their offense under Kyle Orton. The last time the Chiefs offense went up against the Broncos defense was back on Nov. 13 when Matt Cassel was under center.

Denver DC Dennis Allen was quoted by Lee Rasizer of CBSSports.com as saying:

"I think they've changed a little bit offensively," he said. "Theyr'e running the ball really effectively the last couple weeks and using Kyle on the play-action game. They've done a good job of playing to his strengths."

Romeo Crennel spoke to the KC media today and he said that you don't build necessarily build an entire offense or defense around one player -- he was using Eric Berry as an example at the time -- but that you do have plays tailored specifically to that player. When the player is gone, you have to throw those out.

Unfortunately, the tweaks offensively haven't done a whole lot to change the biggest problem -- scoring touchdowns. As we noted earlier, the Chiefs offense hasn't scored multiple touchdowns in a game since October.

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Tweaked around Orton's presence, or tweaked around Haley's absence?

They coincide.

What really irked me about the Raiders game was that it looked like we definitely had some strengths offensively, but did not apply them in the proper way.

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by Brsrkr on Dec 29, 2011 4:53 PM CST reply actions

yeah, moving the ball but not scoring, not making the most of opportunities ...

how many times did Cassel pass for 300 yards in consecutive games? (ie, did he EVER do that with us? somehow I doubt it)

gonna be tough Sunday … Denver has a very tough Defense

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by upamtn on Dec 29, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions

Denver has a very tough Defense

No they don’t. People just use their “tough” defense to try to dismiss Tebow’s accomplishments. They have the 25th ranked scoring defense

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&season=2011&seasonType=REG&role=OPP&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&conference=ALL&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&d-447263-s=TOTAL_POINTS_GAME_AVG

by craig in calgary on Dec 29, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions

You mean his 12 fumbles?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/29/tebows-fumbles-have-been-growing-problem/

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by Tarkus on Dec 29, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions

Hmmm...

"You can’t have 60 [good plays] and five bad ones," Tebow said this week via the Denver Post. "Or at least your bad ones can’t have big mistakes on them."

Aren’t bad ones found to be big mistakes… or am I missing something?

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 29, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions

Just talking about degree, I suppose.

Sack > Turnover, for example.

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by Tarkus on Dec 29, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions

People just gush about Tebow's "accomplishments" to try to dismiss Von Miller.

Denver’s defense has gotten progressively better as Miller has learned and increased his participation (tackle assists). The past four weeks with Miller hurt, Denver has had 32, 41, and 40 put on them by people not named Caleb Hanie.

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by Brsrkr on Dec 29, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions

I'd label their defense as middle of the pack...

They have some great components but they are not elite.

Take our weakness in the season of converting 1st downs. The Broncos rank 12th in this regard. The defense is also fairly disciplined… and remain in the middle of the pack at 14.

Get the Broncos in the Red Zone and they SUCK… this is something that Orton has been good at… can he score on Sunday I suppose we shall see. Granted this is because Tebow has created a short field for offenses… but we can just ignore that part.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 29, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions

They weren't 25th during that run they had

We dismiss Cassel and co for playing shit teams and we praise this guy for beating 1 team with a winning record during his cute stretch. Under 50% passing and, what, under 175-200 yards passing? Hell Orton did better with the defense not showing up in the beginning of the season and without Demerius Thomas,

by KCinIL on Dec 29, 2011 9:45 PM CST up reply actions

We scored 16 points per game with the Savior Orton at QB.

That’s about what Cassel averaged this year…

And Orton did it against the #12 and #29 scoring defenses. The fawning over another mediocre QB who just has a different name is sad.

And technically, Orton didn’t have back to back 300 yard games, but I don’t really think that means anything. We didn’t lose last week b/c we didn’t have enough passing yardage, we lost because of blocked FG’s and two back breaking INT’s in the endzone and redzone, respectively.

by kcsno56 on Dec 29, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions

Add 1 back-breaking 7 point drop

by KCinIL on Dec 29, 2011 9:47 PM CST up reply actions

don't know how Orton would of done under Haley as he was only able to play 1 play.He can throw the ball better than Cassle

by sodablaster on Dec 29, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions

Either way

I hope Muir is canned immediately after the game, win or lose

by werewolf_1979 on Dec 29, 2011 9:24 PM CST reply actions

Sad thing is...

If we lose, the Donkeys make the playoffs…

If we win, the Faiders probably will….

What a choice….TWO FRICKING BLOCKED FIELD GOALS!!!

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Dec 29, 2011 9:47 PM CST reply actions

If we win

The Broncos can still get in

by KCinIL on Dec 29, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions

I was assuming

that the Raiders beat Phyllis Rivers….

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Dec 29, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions

I don't know

Norvs last game, he’s gonna wanna go out with bang.

by KCinIL on Dec 29, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions

Even if it puts the Raiders in the playoffs

I hope we crash Tebow’s parade. If the Lions, Patriots, and Bills can make Tebow look like a fool, then we should be able to as well. Otherwise our defense isn’t as great as everyone has been saying…

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Dec 29, 2011 9:51 PM CST reply actions

We wanted to imitate oakland with Palmer

The man had just got here, had not learned the play book, only a hand full of plays, what did everybody want, the man burned kc while in denver, who was playing qB when Todd Haley would not shake Josh Daniels hand cause he just got his butt kicked back to kc all the way back from the mile high city and thats a lot of butt kicking

by antony555 on Dec 29, 2011 11:15 PM CST reply actions

BEAT DENVER

If they get into the playoffs on a losing streak with no momentum, then they will be dead in the unholy water even with Tebowner as their quarterback…

Who cares!?!?!?! Just show up and do your job, and win!!! I think this will be a HUGE game for Kyle Orton!!!

It’ll be like tearing their arm off in a fight and beating the shit outta them with it…The arm’s name, Kyle Freaking Orton, who will tear up the endzone like a drunk, pissed off, sex crazed tasmanian devil on PCP this weekend!!!

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by ChiefsatWar on Dec 30, 2011 10:39 AM CST reply actions