Any 2012 Pro Bowl Snubs From The KC Chiefs?

by Joel Thorman on Dec 28, 2011 8:01 AM CST

The Kansas City Chiefs had two players elected to the 2012 Pro Bowl -- LB Tamba Hali and LB Derrick Johnson. Those are the two we guessed would make it considering the years they've had. But were any Chiefs snubbed? '

After looking at the list, the best argument on snubs is for CB Brandon Flowers. The cornerbacks that made it in on the AFC side: New York Jets CB Darrelle Revis, Denver Broncos CB Champ Bailey and Houston Texans CB Johnathan Joseph.

He was too inconsistent this year, especially at the beginning of the year. But one league insider we talked to yesterday did say that Flowers is one of the three most complete corners in the AFC when he's on, which is saying a lot considering the talent at that position in the AFC. (That same league insider pointed out that, to some players who have bonuses worked into their contracts, the Pro Bowl is more than just a popularity vote -- it's a pay day.) Unfortunately, that wasn't enough to get him into the Pro Bowl.

If Flowers were to make it in, I'd remove Bailey. Maybe I'm being a bit of an ageist against the 33-year old Bailey, or maybe I just don't like the Broncos (bet on the latter), but I would prefer Flowers over him.

Any other potential snubs? I don't really see any out there. Even Flowers as a snub is a stretch.

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I think

people forget Flowers was bothered by a high ankle sprain for part of the season. If I recall, he only missed one week with an injury that usually takes 3 to 4 to come back from. I truly believe that ankle impacted him on that big play late the Broncos had. If you watch, he pulls up way early. He knew he couldn’t keep up, and while he is not one of the fastest corners, he’s not the slowest either.

by KCMizzou on Dec 28, 2011 8:06 AM CST reply actions

but thats sort of b-flow summed up.

hes always starting a season like the next best corner in the nfl. then slowly falls off a bit(not like his play dipping a bit really hurts us, it just takes him from elite, to good.

these high ankle sprains seem common with flowers….for that reason maybe he wont be a multi occasion pro bowler in his career.

I guess all that matters is that the fans know how valuable he is, and most important so did the head honcho pioli since he paid him like a pro bowl CB

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by SDChief on Dec 28, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions

I wonder

if there is any training a guy can do to prevent such an injury.

by KCMizzou on Dec 29, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions

Biggest snub in the NFL: Peyton Manning

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by RememberDelaney37 on Dec 28, 2011 8:22 AM CST via mobile reply actions

Peyton for MVP

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 28, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions

This.

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by severn58 on Dec 28, 2011 8:57 AM CST up reply actions

solid point

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by upamtn on Dec 28, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions

Exactly

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 28, 2011 9:07 AM CST up reply actions

yep. agree completely.

Manning WILL get some mvp votes, just not enough

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by SDChief on Dec 28, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions

I'm predicting zero, actually.

by kcsno56 on Dec 28, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions

Dustin Colquitt

by Thompson15 on Dec 28, 2011 8:26 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs

This.

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by Falcon58 on Dec 28, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions

best coffin corner punter in the nfl, but...even I have to say, when someone in your division, kicks FIFTY yards per punt.....thats awfully tough to get a pro bowl nod over

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by SDChief on Dec 28, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions

Bowe should be in over Marshall

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by KingChief on Dec 28, 2011 8:32 AM CST reply actions

All those games with Palko starting at QB killed any chance of that

Marshall has had a pretty good year though.

by Chatch McNasty on Dec 28, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions

nope. Id agree without the last 2 TD drops. but hes been inconsistent, and the same QB play cited by many had similar issues in miami

bowe was not remotely deserving of any honors for the season he just had

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by SDChief on Dec 28, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions

i only remember 1 TD drop

And I’m pretty sure Brandon Marshall has dropped at least 5 or 6 td’s this year in his own right.

by JC25FoMVP on Dec 29, 2011 10:06 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Matt Cassel? Ryan Lilja?

I kid, I kid.

I’ve only seen Bailey play a couple games this year but I wasn’t impressed. He isn’t the same player as a few years ago.

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by Fozzyboyd on Dec 28, 2011 8:47 AM CST reply actions

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by upamtn on Dec 28, 2011 8:59 AM CST up reply actions

DE Tyson Jackson?

by Arrowheadone on Dec 28, 2011 9:08 AM CST reply actions

Ex Chief DE

Just looked at the list, I guess Jackson doesnt get in over them guys.

I see the NFC had two ex Chief DE, Jared Allen, Jason Babin.

by Arrowheadone on Dec 28, 2011 9:13 AM CST up reply actions

I'm surprised at how well Babin has done in Philadelphia

Im not upset we cut him when we did. He wasn’t producing much when he was with us and he already a bit of a journeyman by the time we picked him up. It just seems the Eagles and Andy Reid have a system that plays well to his strengths.

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by Scaryclouds on Dec 28, 2011 10:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

me too...I strongly opposed bringing him back

I think hes the most one dimensional player in all of football. he gets sacks, but cant play the run…at all….Im super happy that babin will be overpaid elsewhere. hes had a great year sack wise, I just still dont buy him as a dominant player at his position

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by SDChief on Dec 28, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions

dont be shocked, at this point he has a better chance than glenn dorsey

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by SDChief on Dec 28, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions

Flowers and Colquitt

Like it has been said Flowers is very good and is one of the best in the AFC arguably. Colquitt Also had a pretty good year. In fact correct me if i’m wrong, but the AFC West has some of the best punters in the league don’t they?

by Njohnson816 on Dec 28, 2011 9:56 AM CST reply actions

Yeah...

And Colquitt is the 3rd best. Great punter, not a snub.

by kcsno56 on Dec 28, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions

Hayley's Beard. Deserved a seat on the plane.

by ChiefUk on Dec 28, 2011 10:01 AM CST reply actions

I dunno

All things concidered, Brandon Flowers had a pretty down year. Especially early on, he was picked on quite a bit, and burned quite a bit. He’s had some very good games and put up decent numbers, but I don’t think he deserved the spot.

by craig in calgary on Dec 28, 2011 10:12 AM CST reply actions

tough to play corner

with a high ankle sprain.

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by neiowakcfan on Dec 28, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions

Agreed.

Angry Red, 'nuff said.

by chiefsfan62 on Dec 28, 2011 11:19 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Asamoah maybe?

Put a better RT next to him and we’ll see Big Jon destroying guys for years to come. I’m impressed with his first year as a starter. Looks like we have a solid RG for many years…

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by Tomahawk29 on Dec 28, 2011 10:58 AM CST reply actions

Yeah, I'd love to see Reiff or Martin from the draft lined up next to him.

Then grab Carl Nicks from the free agency and put Hudson at center, and KABOOM! We can steamroll over any team in the league.

by NigerianNightmare on Dec 28, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions

nicks? good luck with that, we passed on him once when there was a legit shot to get the guy.

now? If I was in charge, Id find my own Carl Nicks in the mid rounds this year at G, if Hudson is going to play guard(which I believe he will) that means this team needs a tackle, and a center

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by SDChief on Dec 28, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions

asamoah IMO is better than brian waters, and had to play. As for Lilja, that was up to the team.

big jon is such a beast of a guard.

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by SDChief on Dec 28, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions

I had high hopes for Lewis earlier in the year, but he kind of disappeared for a while.

It’ll be interesting to see how many Chiefs defenders make it next year if they all stay healthy. Our entire secondary plus about 3 LBs might be first teamers, lol…

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by Tomahawk29 on Dec 28, 2011 11:00 AM CST reply actions

yeah on the realistic side of things

DJ, Hali, Flowers

Berry wont get in with polomalu and his one spot
colquitt wont get in with lechler and his one spot.
Bowe is hopefully dealt elsewhere this offseason
Maybe Asamoah

Still will be VERY tough for eric berry to be anything but an alternate til the retirement of troy polomalu

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by SDChief on Dec 28, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions

You're probably right on Berry.

Kinda like how Ray Lewis is over DJ. Until these older farts retire the young guns will be considered understudies.

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by Tomahawk29 on Dec 28, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions

I think so

Maybe I’m being a bit of an ageist against the 33-year old Bailey

Champ Bailey was Mr. Lockdown this year. It was probably one of his best years. The only reason I can think of for anybody not thinking Champ is worthy of the Pro Bowl is because they are aware of his age but are not aware of how he has played this year.

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