D Bowe: The Worst Best WR in All The Land
Dwayne Bowe, in my opinion, is the most controversial player on the Chiefs roster. He constantly disappoints us with drops in big situations. He constantly comes through for us in huge situations. Both of these statements are accurate and that's a FACT. This single player is loved and hated 100% justifiably. He drops 3rd down pass after 3rd down pass, quick slant after quick slant. He catches fade route after back shoulder throw in the end zone. He catches passes and taps his heals on the sideline for the big first down. He let's Stanford Route cut in front of him and intercept a pass that was inches from the middle of the numbers 8 and 2 on his chest. He let's a ball bounce from his grasp as it hits him on his right shoulder on a skinny post in the end zone. He makes juggling catches despite the obvious interference of a lesser athlete. And the list goes on for days at the rate I write this.
Let's look at the positives over the 2008-2010 seasons: 205 catches / 2773 yards / 26 TDs and let's throw in good health as he has only missed games due to an illegal substance. These are stellar numbers considering Todd Haley basically took a season away from him right? I totally agree!
Let's look at the negatives over the same 2008-2010 seasons: According to www.profootballfocus.com, of Wide Receivers who have had at least 50 catchable balls thrown in their direction over the course of these seasons Dwayne Bowe is second to last in dropped pass percentage (13.87%) to only Braylon Edwards (14.72%) who was a new kind of terrible from the 08-09 seasons (quarterback issues?!) as he dropped a mere 4 passes in New York.
What do YOU gather from that information? What it tells me is we have a fantastically under achieving wide receiver with Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Roddy White potential. It makes me so angry and excited for the underwhelming yet fantastic job he does. You know... Catching unbelievable passes... Dropping simple quick slants for first downs on 1rst, 2nd, and 3rd downs. AGHWTF!
So. Do we try hard to resign him? One of the worst best receivers is likely going to ask GM Scott Pioli (Who I think has done a sub par job so far, but that is another discussion) for top 10 WR money. Do we give a top dropper that kind of money?! I for one am ok with it. I am afraid that the loss of Haley will detract from his production, but at the same time I am excited about the potential of a supportive Head Coach creating a more relaxed atmosphere where Mr. Bowe feels more comfortable catching footballs. In the words of Deion Sanders, "PAY THE MAN!"
The fact that he has been a top tier WR every season with exception to the season Haley wouldn't let him tells me that he has the chance to be truly elite. Top 5 even. I believe he has grown up enough to realize the effort he puts into the off season directly effects his performance. The coaches have to put him into situations where he can succeed. The occasional quick slant is fine, but asking him to make that catch with the DB expecting it every third and 3+ is slightly unrealistic. This guy's production the first two seasons of his career is unprecedented. Even if he keeps a pace of the last two games which have been average at best he is on pace for 1096 yards and 8 TDs. Despite his coaching he produces tangible numbers. I absolutely hate how many balls he drops, but his production clearly out weighs his inadequacies as an NFL pass option. I know there is the "franchise him and trade him" idea out there, but honestly if you think our offense would be the same without Bowe you would be wrong. The best case is getting a 1rst and 3rd in which case I would be happy to oblige. Picking up a guy like Jeff Fuller in the second or third would have me stoked, but in a WR heavy draft its not likely we pull that kind of return on a highly inconsistent player.
How do You feel about D Bowe?
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He is a paradox
I would hate to see him go because…face it people…he got over 1000 yards again this year. I think Bowe accurately represents our team and that is consistently inconsistent
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
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is it me or am i crazy?
I haven’t really seen him drop alot of catchable balls THIS year… I thought he has improved starting last year and done a very good job this year.
I honestly would say the stat is deceiving because of our terrible QBs. I dont know what is classified as a “catchable” ball from this statistic, but this point to me would be alot more valid if i saw a couple of these drops that are included in this statistic. I honestly would assume that these passes coming out of Cassel’s and Palko’s hands look terrible.
It would honestly be a huge mistake to let Bowe go. He is a top ten receiver for sure.
It's not just you, Andrew
I totally agree with your post. xhornetsx and a few others just seem to have an unending vendetta against Bowe, for some reason. I have seen every elite pass-catcher, including Tony G, Jerry Rice, Hines Ward, and others, drop what some would consider catchable balls. Many critics refuse to acknowledge the existence of situational drops, which are drops where the receiver is interfered with, vision affected, etc. The chances of the Chiefs acquiring a better receiver in the draft or free agency are slim to none. I strongly feel that with a decent QB, Bowe will continue to grow and excel.
How about last game vs Raiders
He dropped an end zone pass right through his hands. I had endzone seats and it was right in front of my eyes
Dexter McCluster
Sign him.
He has not had a single good QB and the salary cap will go up significantly with the new TV deals.
There is no excuse for a team ridiculously under the cap as the Chiefs are/have been
To not sign Bowe. He’s a playmaker. Lock him down.
I'm not sure how the "fiscal year" works in the NFL,
but if it’s possible, you throw a lot of that cap room from 2011 to Bowe and Carr. Front-load the heck out of the deals, especially Carr’s, since he’s given service above and beyond what he’s been paid, to date.
I think Bowe will be fine, but I have to agree with the Braylon Edwards comparison. They’re both receivers you want to get going early, or at least throw to enough times to get those yards. But on 3rd down, I’d almost rather have somebody else out there, who WILL catch the ball, and WILL prevent DBs from undercutting him. It’s kind of like Cassel, my wanting to give up on him, because I see a game-losing or momentum-changing weakness one week, and then the next week, prove me wrong about that weakness.
But more than Cassel, he does some things that are all-world, and the key to getting the most out of him is by being able to move the chains withOUT him, once in awhile, giving you more chances to throw to him. Terrell Owens was a nice piece for an offense with other weapons, that could overcome his drops. But if you make him your go-to guy, you’re taking a big risk. In a more evenly-distributed offense, with an “open guy” philosophy, I think Bowe’s pretty good to have around.
would of ≠ would've
I really don't understand the hate for Bowe around here
Without him this offense has a severe drop off. Baldwin hasn’t proven enough to warrant going with him into next season as the starter opposite Breaston. That puts us back to where we were last season, very little WR depth.
Also have a look at the crap QBs he’s put with in KC his entire career. Huard, Thigpen, Croyle, Cassel, Palko, Orton. not one above average QB in 5 years. I’m surprised he hasn’t asked to be traded. Pioli gets a real franchise QB and watch Bowe become a top 5 WR easily
And if that wasn’t enough. We’re 20-30 million under the cap. There’s absolutely no reason to not sign Bowe long term
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
Unless he wants to leave...
Sign him if he wants to stay, tag and trade if he doesn’t.
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 27, 2011 5:48 AM CST up reply actions
I have this gut feeling that his line of thinking is "Screw this, I'm not putting up with this BS QB play anymore. They can tag and trade me"
If that’s the case i guess we have no choice. I really don’t want to see Bowe leave though
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Dec 27, 2011 6:13 AM CST up reply actions
Problem with that
No one really wants a quitter on their football team. The Chiefs are not just going to trade so much talent for lackluster return on their investment. Teams will watch the tape and see if he quits. I don’t think that is his mindset though. He spends way too much time blocking his tail off in the run game for that to be true. In my opinion of course.
Teams will trade for Bowe, and it should net us more than the Marshall trade.
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 27, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think that is the case, more along the lines of
Bowe:PAY ME
Pioli:We will, just not top WR money
Bowe:I want top 5 money
Pioli:Picks up the phone yeah we will take those picks
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 27, 2011 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
Its kinda sickening to think of (especially for me since I'm the only Aerial Blitzkrieg fanatic on here) ...
to see our best WR since Otis Taylor be traded, but I think its coming. I could see Bowe wanting to leave very easily for mo’ dead prez – and for a yearly contender especially; and I couldn’t blame him if he had the chance. And I could see Pioli happily obliging him for the right deal. I could see Pioli thinking of Baldwin as being Bowe’s replacement already last draft. Of course, he hadn’t signed Breaston yet? So Breaston’s play really makes Bowe more expendable now.
Trade Bowe for one of those bigger, slower, better blocking, more scheme-versatile, exploiting-mismatched-DB TE prospects like Dwayne Allen for Matty Nice to throw at in the RZ/3rd down/move-the-chains-style E-P O, ect. I mean really – Hoodie is outdoing him in the TE Arms Race, and Pioli CANNOT let this travesty just stand! Bigger, slower, more-sure-handed receivers are needed for Matty Nice to further his development; it’ll be good for his self-confidence too. A passing-first offense and QB could make better use of Bowe’s talent, anyway. (le sigh)
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Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner. You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really *don't* want me to go down there!
by LocoLoboChico on Dec 27, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Trentchiefsfan,
Except for your calling Orton and Cassel crap QBs, I agree with your post. Cassel, in my opinion, is not a crap QB, he’s just an average QB, with limited mental and physical abilities. I consider Orton to have much better mental and physical abilities, and with a full off-season with the receivers and offensive line, he’ll be a very good asset to the Chiefs. Some on AP point out the mistakes that he has made since joining the Chiefs. Well, I’ve seen the same mistakes made by the best QBs in NFL history, so I say, give the man a chance in the Chiefs’ system and improve the O-line and play-calling.
i said not one above average QB
Cassel is average, not above average
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Dec 27, 2011 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
Yes! I aways look forward to our ...
NEXT QB blessed with these traits.
Cassel, in my opinion, is not a crap QB, he’s just an average QB, with limited mental and physical abilities.I mean … its just the inevitability of it, you see …
A Dog's Heart
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
Author Unknown
Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner. You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really *don't* want me to go down there!
by LocoLoboChico on Dec 27, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
keep him and hire someone to help him become consistent
He’s got too much potential to just let him go.
Wasn't Haley supposed to be a WR guru?
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Dec 27, 2011 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
No ... not even ...
JUST that, Muchacho
Wasn’t Haley supposed to be a WR guru?but also an OFFENSIVE guru!
A Dog's Heart
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
Author Unknown
Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner. You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really *don't* want me to go down there!
by LocoLoboChico on Dec 27, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
He's not megatron
But right now he’s a very solid threat across the field.
Baldwin, with all of his physical attributes doesn’t seem to have the route running/mental aspect down.
Breaston is beastin but can only do so much as one receiver.
by MichaelMantastic on Dec 27, 2011 8:11 AM CST reply actions
I've seen Baldwin run some pretty awesome routes.
I don’t think they’ve maximized what they can get off his sheer size and catch radius. Orton was trying to get some of that going, but the chemistry isn’t there, yet, nor were the routes ideal for what I think he could do, right away.
With Cassel, it was very close to the chest, without much reliance on any kind of time to process the pattern. Drop, set and throw is about all they’ve done, and about all that Weis ever let him do. When the play doesn’t develop the way it’s been drawn up, you see Cassel throwing into double or triple coverage.
Yes, I’ve seen Cassel process the pattern and find the right guy, but those plays are very few and far between. Cassel is not generally comfortable with that, and if the pass doesn’t come out perfectly on rhythm, he’s very tentative, very hesitant. For the first and about the only time, since Pioli came, we saw the double moves have time to develop and a QB who was comfortable waiting for them to develop. Orton’s not mobile enough for that style of passing game to work against the Raiders, though. Fine against the crappy pass rush Green Bay was capable of mustering, but against the Raiders, his lack of mobility and hesitancy with his FEET that was pretty glaring.
Agree about Breaston. He lived up to his billing. AZ must be very dysfunctional to have given him up, that way.
would of ≠ would've
Hmm ...
Something about Arizona being dysfunctional? The hell you says!
AZ must be very dysfunctional to have given him up, that way.After a SB appearance, they’ve only given up Karlos Dansby, Antrel Rolle, Antonio Smith, Roderick Hood (except they brought him back this season), Anquan Boldin, Jerheme Urban and Leonard Pope thru 2010.
And now even further from the pre-2011 season from their SB squad: Steve Breaston, Tim Hightower (although to be fair – they did trade him. And damn, one of the guys I was actually HOPING Haley would get back if the trade wasn’t too steep, too) and Alan Branch.
And gave up Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie AND their 2012 2nd rd. pick for Kevin “Hog Hunter” Kolb. WOW! Hunting wild hogs with nothing but a Bowie knife sure will prolong your football career! I don’t care if you use the hounds to catch’em first or not. And paid him a five-year deal for just under $64 million including $21 million in guaranteed money. Dysfunctional you say! I says I see no evidence to support that bold claim?
A Dog's Heart
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
Author Unknown
Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner. You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really *don't* want me to go down there!
by LocoLoboChico on Dec 27, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
A couple of years ago I would of been fine lettin him go, but am now at the point that
it’s up to him. Does he want to be here and play for a fair contract? Or does he know that Pioli most likely will not pay him top dollar because of his issues; drops, attitude (mostly in the past), and suspension for banned substances, also (hoping) in the past. It’s a difficult call and will be interestin to see how it plays out. No question he has talent to excel, but sometimes he seems to lack effort in gettin open, but as someone else pointed out we have had suspect QB play and it’s hard to stay motivated when you bust your butt for naught. If he goes, it just one more position that will need filled, like we ain’t got enough holes on the roster already.
I think some of his problems recently have been because of the merry-go-round of qbs.
The best qb to throw him the ball in his career probably has to be orton and i personally dont think he’s used to seein a well thrown ball. I remember a play in the green bay game where orton threw him the ball and he jumped up to catch it when he easily could of stayed on the ground to see the ball hit him right in the hands. But when he has the likes of tyler palko and a skittish matt cassel throwing the ball to him, he probably feels like he has to make an adjustment on every pass.
For every bad drop he has at least one catch he had no business making
He’s not a head-case like Brandon Marshal or TO. I think any team in the league would want him, and I hope we resign him.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
That's the problem
The drops are easy catches. It’s almost always on quick slants. I remember three off the top of my head that were game changing TDs, two of which were uncontested. This was my point when I wrote the article if you wanna call it that (was my first ever). He is so up and down. He makes enough plays to make you forget about the complete failures he has. It’s crazy. I am fine with every possibility other than letting him walk into FA. Sign him and keep him. Franchise him and trade him for a player like Michael Oher to play RT for us. Get a couple picks for him if you want to go down the road of trying to replace his unquestionable production…
Who do we throw to in your opinion
If he leaves? That number 2 receiver Breaston or that untested rookie in Baldwin? It’s gonna be 2010 all over again, except Bowe won’t be the one doing all the work.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 27, 2011 12:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
Player turnover is inevitable. Breaston has been a solid number 2 WR. Baldwin is a target that potentially could fill Bowe’s shoes. I have seen him get some solid seperation on more than one occasion and he can catch the jump ball well. I’ll not begin to say he will completely fill the shoe’s of Bowe in the next season, but you can’t begin to address how much easier it would be for our entire offense if we had a pro bowl RT. Don’t forget Moeaki should be back. We have McCluster out of the backfield that can run some slot routes. We can sign a TE like Tony Gonzalez or Shiancoe to come in and be another option. There is a million things you can do to find other targets. I’m not saying get rid of him, just saying I’d be okay with it if we got good return on investment.
How many 'bad' drops does he have this year?
4-5 maybe (just a guess). Does that outweigh the plays he makes (& coverage he draws) that no-one else on the team could? Without Bowe the offense is significantly worse off.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
That is a fair assumption
But it is an assumption. Bowe is absolutely an asset. I’ll not argue, but there are other ways to move the football. Bowe has dropped at least 2 easy touchdown catches this season alone that would have changed games. Just last week he dropped one because he let it get into his chest instead of catching it out in front like Haley has been trying to teach him for 3 years. It was followed by a Kyle Orton interception. But he made a couple big plays at the end of the game that makes you forget that we should have at least been tied already and driving for the win. I want him around unless we get other pieces that equate to his value.
Yep. And it's the game-changing drops that are the most troubling.
That’s when I get bitter about the consecutive 1,000 yard seasons. It’s like he’s making this great career at the expense of the team, in a way.
It’s sorta how I felt about Tony G, pulling down a salary that might’ve been why KC lost Neil Smith. Man, if it’s between keepin’ an All Pro TE and an All Pro DE, I’m keeping the DE! I’ll find a TE who can block and catch a few passes, who gets open off the awesome play fakes his blocking sets up, and the faked-out LBs that defenses delegate to coverage against his not-blazing speed.
I’m not that way about top WRs, though, when it comes to $$$. I’m willing to pay for an elite WR – more than a TE, when it comes to the short strokes and the ultimate ‘stay or go’ questions. With Bowe, it’s always questioning whether he’s really elite or just a lost playoff game, waiting to happen. But you KNOW that 1,000 yard season is going to help you win quite a few games. And he IS more consistent than Terrell Owens, and I think he’ll get a whole lot better if he gets a chance to work uninterrupted with a better pure passer than Cassel.
would of ≠ would've
Any drop is a bad drop
Dwayne Bowe leads the NFL with 12 dropped passes this season. Per stats.com
Here's a legit question
how many TD’s does Bowe have ?
Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.
All of those on AP calling for Bowe being traded should be reminded of the players, etc., the Chiefs let go in the past and regretted.
Tony G, Horne, and too many others (including coaches), were traded or released and set the franchise back for years.
Forget the players we let go
How about we remember who our wide receivers were BEFORE we got Bowe? Bunch of nobodies.
Bowe is the best WR we’ve had in many many years. Nobody has any business talking about not resigning him.
Joe Horn and Rich Gannon could've had a blast in KC, if only the coaches had seen it.
I think they got good value for Tony G, didn’t they? But I think that the best teams give and receive more loyalty than the Chiefs. For where the team was at, though, the Tony G trade was good will on both sides. They couldn’t afford to pay TG the big bucks, with all the more fundamental holes they had, and he wasn’t going to get a ring anytime soon. I don’t think he’s going to get one in Atlanta, either, but at least he got to play for a likely contender.
But your main point is well-taken. I think Bowe’s worth keeping. I think the drops are a legit enough issue to call for some incentives in the contract. No drops, bigger end-of-year bonus. The guy IS all-world in several respects.
would of ≠ would've
?
Who dropped more passes per year …TG or DB? My guess is TG, but both were over-rated early on.
I'll look into it...
But Tony Gonzalez has some of the best hands I have ever seen I don’t recall him dropping passes… Could be that he made enough big catches to make me forget? lol
i see everybody saying they would rather let bowe go and have baldwin as our main guy but baldwin has drop alot of passes to
so i say we lock bowe up or have a bad receiving corp
i say let bowe go, he is part of the problem here, inconsistency is the name of the game with the players that are on this roster, there are only a few players on the team that are consistent, berry,charles,johnson,flowers,carr,hali,asamoah,breaston. inconsistent passing,blocking,tackling equals losing. if it were me i’d blow up the whole thing, keep some select players, the losing culture needs to change!
Resign him
He is good, sure he might drop some balls but who doesn’t! Guy makes some awesome catches to make up for it.
Bowe is the only really good part of the offense this season
Yes, he’s given up on some plays, yes, he’s had drops, however, I just can’t see letting him walk.
In 5 seasons, he’s had 3 1,000 yard seasons(he was 5 yards short in his rookie season, and he was suspended 4 games in 2009).
I just don’t see the intelligence in letting the best WR on a team walk when you have cap space.
The Chiefs will be fine and back in contention next season, assuming the players returning from injury come back all the way and they make some moderate FA signings.

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