Chiefs' Blueprint Or Just Playing Better?

by Joel Thorman on Dec 23, 2011 8:33 AM CST

Excuses, excuses, everyone has 'em.

This quote was pointed out in Arrowheadlines earlier today about the Packers-Chiefs game last week:

Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers says it's "baloney" that the Kansas City Chiefs gave future opponents a blueprint for beating the Packers.

Receiver Jordy Nelson said other teams have tried what the Chiefs did in beating the Pack last Sunday. But he said the Packers were undermanned, and they just didn't play well.

Bah, humbug!

Since we're talking about being undermanned...if the Chiefs had Eric Berry, Jamaal Charles and Tony Moeaki, what would the score be last Sunday? 33-14, Chiefs? It wouldn't have been even close if that's the excuse.

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Glad that you left Cassel out of that statemant...

Since we’re talking about being undermanned…if the Chiefs had Eric Berry, Jamaal Charles and Tony Moeaki, what would the score be last Sunday? 33-14, Chiefs? It wouldn’t have been even close if that’s the excuse.

First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...

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by SFLChief on Dec 23, 2011 8:35 AM CST reply actions

I didn't even notice that until you said it

and as I was reading it I never thought of Cassel.

Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.

by Fozzyboyd on Dec 23, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions

Boo. I was going to point this out as well.

But I can say with certainty we don’t win that game with Cassel under center.

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by independent739 on Dec 23, 2011 9:10 AM CST up reply actions

yup

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by upamtn on Dec 23, 2011 9:30 AM CST up reply actions

Who?

by JaySoy on Dec 23, 2011 9:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Adding to the contrary - If we had all the weapons - I think the game might have gone to GB

The only reason we were able to keep Rodgers and company at bay was due in part to the fact our record sucks, our offense was an embarrassment all season. If KC had score TDs in the first two drives instead of FGs, the score would have been 14-0. With that sort of start, I doubt Aaron would have taken it so easy. When you’re only down 0-6, Aaron knew it wouldn’t take a whole lot to come back from. Thing is – McCarthy and his crew really thought KC was gonna mail-it-in. Thus, their players were sorta complacent, and didn’t bring their A-game. Imagine if KC had all those weapons into that game, I doubt our record would have been 5-8 going in. With that said, if our record were better, and we had all of our weapons, GB would have came out firing right outta the gates. They would have treated the Chiefs like a tough opponent and game plan it like its a must win game – so what you’re saying really is a moot point. IF and IFs…we could have gotten killed if GB played us like a real team.

Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.

by 58 was my friend on Dec 23, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah, I doubt the Packers were even really trying to win that game against us

I mean, it would only have given them home-field advantage throughout the playoffs, so there wasn’t really any reason for them to “bring their A-game”.

What utter nonsense…

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by PVChiefsfan on Dec 23, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions

Really???

home-field advantage throughout the playoffs

I think there’s still 2 more games to play after that game. I don’t remember the season ending last week?

As far as GB was concern, they must be really BIG on getting home-field advantage throughout the playoffs because if they didn’t get it, there’s no chance of them going deep into the playoffs… I mean last season…GB were the No.1 seed, right? ..oh wait…perhaps it was IMPOSSIBLE to win in the playoffs if you’re a wild card and don’t have home-field advantage – nevermind

by 58 was my friend on Dec 23, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah

and it wouldn’t have made sense to go ahead and wrap it up against a sucky team. Don’t fool yourself, they wanted to win that game.

by hayoli on Dec 23, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions

score would've been something like 30-14 even with the injuries we have.. had we converted those red zone FGS into TDS..

by Texas Chiefs fan on Dec 23, 2011 8:38 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs

this

KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round

by trentchiefsfan on Dec 23, 2011 8:44 AM CST up reply actions

Other teams may have tried...but

other teams dont have the DBs to make it work or the pass rush we have been generating the last few weeks.

by DSteck42 on Dec 23, 2011 8:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions

Yeah, our pass rush has been crazy the last few weeks

Who’s turn is it to get 3 sacks this week?

Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.

by Fozzyboyd on Dec 23, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions

Sore losers

"Stay Classy Kansas City"

by Mas Cervezas on Dec 23, 2011 8:46 AM CST via mobile reply actions

If by "undermanned" Nelson is referring to how Jennings is out and how he proved he's not a #1 WR in his absense then he's right.

Flowers and Carr took him to the woodshed all day and he’s pissed. I wonder if being undermanned made him shove off twice and ge penalize his team too.

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by GenericBrand on Dec 23, 2011 8:46 AM CST reply actions

I think Nelson mispoke...

They were “Unmanned” not Undermanned."

by R8R H8R on Dec 23, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

I wonder if he ment undermanned on the offensive line?

They were already thin on the line… then Brian Bulaga went down with an injury…. and Derek Sherrod broke his leg by the end of the game.

One thing that I hadn’t seen from Rodgers all season is him getting flustered in the pocket. Granted he has taken sacks, but this was the first time he has gotten this flustered in a game(this season), and I believe this is what effected the outcome. Whether it was because the offensive line was injured or we just plain kicked there ass(which we did in the first half before injuries) will be seen in if others can implement ‘our blueprint’.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 23, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions

I like how I use injuries as the excuse for the Chiefs losing

And then mock the Packers for doing the same :)

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by Joel Thorman on Dec 23, 2011 8:46 AM CST reply actions

Fans can use the excuse, players can't.

Especially if they are the best team in football and won the Super Bowl last year with a ton of injuries.

Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.

by Fozzyboyd on Dec 23, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions

This^

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by chief Stevie_k on Dec 23, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions

I don't see the problem

by DanielH123 on Dec 23, 2011 9:00 AM CST up reply actions

With all fairness, what is Rodgers going to say.

Reporter " Did the Chief’ show how to shutdown the Packers?"
Rodgers “Of course they did, so I hope nobody was watching the game.”

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by saskwatch on Dec 23, 2011 8:47 AM CST reply actions

True enough.

Manning did the same thing last year but with more class. He wasn’t going to give the Chiefs any credit but you could tell on the sideline he was struggling. Rivers did the same thing too when asked about the “worst day ever” quote. They’re pros and they’re not going to show weakness.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Dec 23, 2011 8:49 AM CST up reply actions

"Worst thing ever"

lol

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by Big_Chief on Dec 23, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions

ESPN said "day"

by bamachief5558 on Dec 23, 2011 10:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

You are all wrong. You forgot it was Rivers talking. It was definitley "Worsted Thang Evar."

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by saskwatch on Dec 23, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions

nothin like a sore loser's sour grapes!

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by reedeasy on Dec 23, 2011 8:53 AM CST reply actions

Shoulda, woulda, coulda? Just sounds like sour

grapes from a Packers team which was outplayed on both offense and defense. Plainly and simply we handed them their ass on a platter. I don’t give a crap about which whiny assed Packer said what………they got heir ass beaten.

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by G.L. on Dec 23, 2011 8:56 AM CST reply actions

everyone is undermanned.

namely, the kansas city chiefs, dickhead.

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..

by be cee on Dec 23, 2011 9:01 AM CST reply actions

haha

roasted

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by GaryfromIA on Dec 23, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions

I don't know why

Rodgers is so admired. He’s so damn smug and generally just seems like a douchebag.

by DC_KCfan on Dec 23, 2011 9:04 AM CST reply actions

Not at all

If you watch enough interviews with him, you’ll see that he’s very intelligent and generally reserved. He gets annoyed when reporters or the media in general display ignorance. The “smugness” you talk about is him having a chip on his shoulder for being passed over by 23 teams in the draft and then riding the pine for 4 years. No—he’s a man on a mission. He’s not here to pander to anyone. He’s kind of like Matt Cassel…but, with talent.

I believe in the Chiefs' Way. Someday, we will set the standard for how to be a championship team!

by Face Painter on Dec 23, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Is Pink Floyd like Justin Bieber

but with talent?

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 23, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions

How could you ruin this post by mentioning that d-bag?

It’s almost as bad as mentioning the “kicker who shall not be named.”

by Knightwolfbr on Dec 23, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions

My bad

I thought we were playing the “Analogy Game.”

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 23, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions

You bet they got their collective butts handed to them... They were outplayed on BOTH

sides of the ball. Our usually inept offense went up and down the field with consistent clock killing drives which kept Aaron off the field.

Discount double check Aaron.. Your team was manhandled.. Plain and simple and even all the pundits are seeing it.

by KCRowdy on Dec 23, 2011 9:05 AM CST reply actions

any given Sunday

And they can’t handle it. Makes me smile. :)

by KC Scout on Dec 23, 2011 9:08 AM CST reply actions

I don't read that much into this

I agree, it IS baloney that we gave other teams a blue-print. Other teams know that getting to Rodgers and disrupting his receivers is the way to stop the Packers. They just haven’t been able to execute it as well as we did (and the Pack had a bit of an off day).

It’s not like RAC was the first one to think “We should get in Rodgers face and stop their passing game”

Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.

by joplin chiefs fan on Dec 23, 2011 9:08 AM CST reply actions

Agreed.

Some people immediately started yelling about the Chiefs’ blueprint to beat the Packers. Bullshit. If by blueprint they mean manning up, getting in Rodgers’s grill, and just going toe to toe with the Pack, then OK… let’s see how well other teams pull that off then lol..

It reminds me of last year’s Colts game. Peyton Manning 0 TDs 1 INT, because we were fucking Peyton’s head up all day and all the announcers or anyone could talk about was how Pey Pey just looked off! Not that the Chiefs were causing if or anything, just that he was having a bad day. Same with Rivers this year.

Maybe eventually people will see that the Chiefs step up to big time QBs, but I’m not counting on it.

by bamachief5558 on Dec 23, 2011 10:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Can't wait to hear Raiders' excuses...

…for getting their asses kicked on saturday.
BAM!

How's Jamaal doing anyways?

by Beefcakess on Dec 23, 2011 9:09 AM CST reply actions

Chiefs played arguably, their best game of the year!

But let’s be honest, the Packers played flat in an extremely hard place to play. I don’t know if we would have won that game if the Packers played to their normal level. Congrats to Chiefs for taking advantage!

by NCChief63 on Dec 23, 2011 9:09 AM CST reply actions

aww the wittle packers mad?

The packers came in with the intention of blowing us out in that game. They were outplayed against an offense/defense riddled with injuries and backups. Nelson should rephrase your answer to;" I was outplayed and outmanned by pisticelli of all people.

Do you smell what the Chiefs are cooking?
An a%#whooping and BBQ!!

by LAChief97 on Dec 23, 2011 9:09 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions

Funny, I don't think the Chiefs once made excuses for when they played poorly.

They just manned up and said, “we sucked.”

Packers just come across as little crybabies here. It’s getting harder and harder to like that team. Seems the success has gotten to their heads.

by bossmanham on Dec 23, 2011 9:11 AM CST reply actions

Despite all the Cheeseheads in the crowd....

Arrowhead was handing out some discount double takes….all day long!!!

by NCChief63 on Dec 23, 2011 9:12 AM CST reply actions

I keep thinking about how wide open our receivers were during the game.

I then think about how wide they would be with the Packers staking the box to stop Jamaal Charles. What do you think, 45-14 maybe???

by Knightwolfbr on Dec 23, 2011 9:13 AM CST reply actions

True -

And a lot if credit goes to Orton..

What with his deft ball-handling,
Convincing play-action fakes, and
Looking off receivers in progression -
I could go on and on..

Angry Red, 'nuff said.

by chiefsfan62 on Dec 23, 2011 10:13 AM CST via Android app up reply actions

Did you say something about going through progressions?

I have never seen such a thing in Kansas City. So that is what that looks like.

by Knightwolfbr on Dec 23, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions

I Tweeted that concept after the game

when the national media (ESPN) kept saying how GB lost the game due to injuries. Never did they mention that the Chiefs won in spite of several key players on IR.

by blaine54 on Dec 23, 2011 9:21 AM CST reply actions

Because when we win

it’s against easy teams or that team loses the game. We aren’t allowed to play good and win. Just not possible in the media eye

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.

by KingChief on Dec 23, 2011 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

What are they going to say,

When we kick their Ass in the Super Bowl .HA

I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.

by dbakerku on Dec 23, 2011 9:30 AM CST reply actions

hehe

by bossmanham on Dec 23, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions

We were underCrennel'd

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 23, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions

Welcome to RAC CITY!

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Dec 23, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions

what a bunch of cry babies

I used to like the packers. Now I’m not sure I have any respect for them at all. I hope they lose in the first round.

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Dec 23, 2011 9:44 AM CST reply actions

I try not to make generalizations (admittingly fail frequently)

But every Packers game I’ve ever been to @ Arrowhead I wind up sitting next to the most condescending Green Bay fan prick in the stadium. Therefore I conclude they’re all like that.

Oh and cheese.

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 23, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions

So the Packers lost because of injuries?

Wasn’t the mantra all year long about how the Packers won the Super Bowl despite all of their injuries?

by old_school on Dec 23, 2011 9:48 AM CST reply actions 1 recs

Jordy should of come out and mentioned all those drops his fellow WRs had to.

All of them dropped at least one and Finley dropped four.

Ever seen the movie Green Street Hooligans? That's how I feel about my Chiefs.

by zyker on Dec 23, 2011 9:49 AM CST reply actions

I Appreciate the Hate

That is right media the Chiefs D is a fluke, an illusion, a mirage. Raiders and Broncos don’t pay attention they still suck so don’t worry about them.

GB had injuries.
The pressure of going undefeated.
The drops were because of sun in their eyes.
A-rod was off because he got hit once.
McCarthy didn’t adjust because he didn’t want to give away playoff game plans.
JC, Mo and EB must not be that good to be missed.

Anymore excuses i missed. I don’t care if the team don’t get the credit it deserves just keep getting disrespected and punching people in the mouth. If it makes them feel better to make excuses as players that “we didn’t get beat, here are a list of excuses to support that” i mean

its not like they get paid to play at a high level every week

by km230015 on Dec 23, 2011 10:09 AM CST reply actions