The Case For Romeo Crennel
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He's got my vote!
* Vote subject to change on a whim or losing to the Tebows
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by jhiat00 on Dec 20, 2011 5:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Romeo will get the job.
Especially after the Chiefs straight up crush OAK this week and DEN goes down in flames to BUF.
Week 17 is going to be the biggest game the Chiefs have played in over 5 years, watch.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
by Tomahawk29 on Dec 20, 2011 5:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
"Don't worry fellas... I got this"

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by Tomahawk29 on Dec 20, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
It's not just the one game...
It’s the way the team is responding to him as HC, and the sense of confidence and savvy he displays in press conferences.
Mark my words, the Chiefs are going to steamroll the Raiders and Broncos…
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
I think so, too!
How about some more continuity with Mangini as DC?
sooner or later, God'll cut you down...
Mangini
would only take a HC job…I think Romeo would promote one of his assistants…If Romeo is hired, McDaniels will be our OC and coach in waiting.
It won't be McD, if Romeo has anything to say about it.
I would hope it will be Zorn, since he is now familiar with the players and coaches. Also, if Rac says consistency is important, then I can see him hiring from within and not taking a shot with a hothead like McD (Haley Jr.).
I think a good DC candidate is Mel Tucker
He is currently the interim HC in Jacksonville. I don’t think he will get the full tim job there. They are getting blown out, their ownership is changing, and they need to make a splash to get in good with the fans down there. Tucker was the DC for Crennel in his last season in Cleveland, the defense ranked 5th in the league.
First of all
No offense but I can’t take anything you say seriously with a picture of Tim Tebow by your name. I will let you have my profile picture if that will help. Second it’s NOT just one game, think back this season: When we DID compete, who was doing all of the competing? THe defense. Who is running the defense? Romeo Crennel. Which side has more playmakers? It’s an arguable point but I would say most non-Chiefs fans would be able to name more offensive players than defensive. Fact is even before any of this came about Romeo was quietly coaching up a ragtag bunch and making lemons out of horseshit and now that he’s kind of in the spotlight with the Green Bay thing I hope that kind of stuff is taken into consideration.
Seriously, when you can compete with the likes of John McGraw and Sabby Pisciatelli you are a great coach.
The Kansas City Chiefs, ruining playoff hopes since 2010
If the football brains who screwed up the quarterback situation
this year don’t out wit themselves by bringing in a Jeff Fisher when we already have a Romeo Crennel this team will be just fine. That and if they don’t screw up the quarterback situation (again) for next year too badly. Romeo and Orton both need to be back.
"The Hammer"
Need to win at least one more game.
And at least be competitive in the other. Then it’s probably a slam dunk.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
My thinking too
Everyone is in too big a hurry here, If we can win 2 of 3 or 3 of 3 and Orton shows good in both then there are no other reasons to look anyplace else. I think we have a real good chance at the 3 of 3 but the Bills beating the donk-hos really worries me. Go Bills!!!!!
Win out, and it's Romeo and Orton, hands down.
2 of 3 is where it gets interesting. It depends on how the loss goes.
Pretty much, yeah.
And if they both prove themselves over that tough of a three-game stretch, they’ve earned my vote.
Never thought I’d vote for Orton, really. Pretty surprising.
"I’ve got to play well enough," he said, "so we can make it to the playoffs."
--Kyle Orton
by go_saleaumua on Dec 20, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
I don't understand that
So, say we only win the GB game and none of the rest. That makes Romeo shitty? I’d say it says that the same team lost for 2 different head coaches which would indicate that the problem is the team (i.e. injuries and QB) and less so the coach at the time.
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
I didn't say that.
And I didn’t even say that’s what I would do. I was speculating.
But my point was, this team has proven more than once they’re not as bad as they play sometimes. The last three games gives Romeo a chance to show that he can get them to play up to their capabilities on at least a limited consistent basis. But if they come out looking unprepared and unmotivated like they did so often under Haley, then he’s probably not the right guy.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
I think he won over most fans Sunday.
If we win out I think pretty much everyone will be all for it. The real question is what we do at OC, If our offense continues to play well to we keep Muir or find a new one. Who is to blame for the offensive struggles this year? Haley, Muir, Cassel? Do we promote Zorn? Who knows.
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Dec 20, 2011 5:08 PM CST reply actions
my case VS RC
1) cant count on that many drops
2) cant count on other team losing 2 RT’s
3) Can’t count on Orton only being hit once a game, and that sort of protection
4) Emotion. Fluke? will they play like that the other 2 games?
5) GB took KC for granted?
6) Now there is some gametape of the Orton lead O
7) 1-5 redzone?
Just saying, it was 1 game when everything went right for KC.
Jury still out on Orton and RAC in y eyes.
Prove it was not a fluke.
good job Orton
keep it up next 2 weeks, ill remove my Tebow picture
Everything went right without...
Berry, Charles, Etc. The team was nowhere near as talented as the Packers and they beat them up and down the field (a few TDs would have been nice). Either way, the Chiefs did what 13 other teams failed to do.
They should keep RAC just based on keeping the ship steady and the obvious love the players have for the head coach. The things you mentioned happen on a weekly basis in the NFL, and most have nothing to do with RAC.
by ChiTownChiefs on Dec 20, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
i disagree
That was KC’s superbowl.
I need to see the next 2 games, before RAC gets my approval.
good job Orton
keep it up next 2 weeks, ill remove my Tebow picture
So risk destroying the consistency we have on defense?
Because that is exactly what will happen if they bring in Fisher or any other Defensive minded coach for HC.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Well you are wrong!
Just kidding. But the next few games will be telling, but I just don’t see a let down. If so, you may be right.
Why is your picture of Tebow?
by ChiTownChiefs on Dec 20, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
im just not
ready to had over the HC job after 1 game.
As far as Tebow…meh it’s a cool fad, and think about this…
woudn’t it be nice if they are forced to build around Tebow a few years?
good job Orton
keep it up next 2 weeks, ill remove my Tebow picture
I was 100% against Tebowing...
Until Sunday. I was at a Packers bar and Tebowed in front of a group of Packers fans. Not sober at all and they weren’t to happy with me. Ha
by ChiTownChiefs on Dec 20, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
was there alot of green and yellow in the bar.
u were probably the only chief fan in there
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
I was.
I was back in Chicago visiting and one of my favorite bars is a Wisconsin/packers bar. During the game I kept walking by a large group and chanting 13-1. Myself and a few of the bears fans thought it was great… Packers fans not so much. But they ended up being pretty cool after the game was over. I’ll try and post this picture sometime.
by ChiTownChiefs on Dec 20, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
That is how you Tebow.
Helpful Hint: have buddies to back you up, or Tebowing will get your ass kicked HARD.
I get what you're saying
but that was his first game as head coach of this team… Pretty impressive win in general, and especially given the circumstances.
by bamachief5558 on Dec 20, 2011 5:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's about where I'm at too, Redberry. I need to see it two or three times first.
But I was quite impressed, I’ll say that…although it didn’t look like Romeo had gotten much better at the old “challenge flag” routine. A couple Browns fans have warned me…
"I’ve got to play well enough," he said, "so we can make it to the playoffs."
--Kyle Orton
by go_saleaumua on Dec 20, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
I like how everyone says you're wrong
Just because you’d like > 1 game to evaluate this team. Please do not use logic on these people…they don’t get it. Everyone knows that a kneejerk reaction is the only way to run a football team.
Pack had a LOT of people out due to injury ... let's not play that worn out card
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Berry, Charles, McGraw, Moeaki....
You’re right, let’s NOT play the injury card…
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Oh god.
EVERYONE HAS INJURIES.
Packers won a SB last year with WAY worse injuries than that.
We were just spoiled from a lucky 2010 with no major injuiries
by craig in calgary on Dec 20, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
More injuries yes...
But not at such key positions.
by ChiTownChiefs on Dec 20, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
RB, TE and S
You mean Ryan Grant, Jermichael Findlay and Morgan Burnett.
Not too mention 11 other starters on IR
by craig in calgary on Dec 20, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
In my opinion...
Charles > Grant
Berry > Burnett
Moeaki = Finley
Cassel = ?s
If they lost Jennings and Woodson I doubt they have the same success.
by ChiTownChiefs on Dec 20, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
By Jennings and Woodson,,,
I meant our best O and D weapons.
by ChiTownChiefs on Dec 20, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
RT
they lost the starting Rt and RT backup in same game.
Rodgers rolls to his right, thats a huge 2 injuries. They just signed Herb Tyler.
good job Orton
keep it up next 2 weeks, ill remove my Tebow picture
They didn't lose
The second tackle until the 4th quarter. We had the game in hand for most othe day. Not a good excuse, Chiefs won his game by playing better football, I’m sick of all the “packers weren’t ready\were too injured” bullshit.
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by chai1836 on Dec 20, 2011 6:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
I kinda agree with this.
KC losing Charles would be more comparable to GB losing Rodgers. Sounds kind of silly, I know, but Charles was responsible for about 30% of our offensive output last year. Charles and Moeaki combined account for over 40%.
At the very least Charles + Moeaki are as big a blow to KC as it would be for GB to lose Rodgers.
And yeah, Berry is 10x the safety Burnett is, and would likely push this defense into a top 5 status if he played all year.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
by Tomahawk29 on Dec 20, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, because they had legit depth...
Unlike a certain team I know that has close to 20 mil in cap space…
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
then call the GM and bitch at HIM about it ... point I was making is that GB had a ton of people out due to injuries and that, all things being equal maybe we DON'T win (much less in a blowout as the original commenter referenced or inferred)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
1-5 redzone...
Don’t see how a defensive coach should have this held against him…
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Therin lies the rub
As a HC he isn’t a defensive coach.
by craig in calgary on Dec 20, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
What?
Is he supposed to call offensive plays too?
Romeo gave the offensive coordinators the game plan – get positive yards, move the chains, eat up clock. FWIW, The Chiefs coordinators (Muir, Zorn, whoever) did a good job with that. I fail to see how the offensive scoring should come back to Romeo when on one Red Zone attempt from a yard out they threw the ball twice…
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
And Haley as an offensive coach was any better?
We made more trips to the RZ this game then I think I’ve seen all year, probably our best offensive day of the season with a Defensive Coach a the helm.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 20, 2011 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying that at all
Jesus everyone is bitchy today, I’m just saying that a HC who is defensive minded still is accountable for all 3 facets of the game.
/signing off
by craig in calgary on Dec 20, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not trying to be bitchy
I agree he should be held accountable for all 3 facets of the game.
But again our offense had probably its best game of the season with Crennel at the helm. Why don’t we hold him accountable for that?
Everybody likes to point to the 1-5 as if that’s some damning stat but we still scored more points then the Packers, and at the end of the day that’s all that matters.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 20, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Right, and like I pointed out,
Romeo gave the offense the game plan, and FWIW, they mostly executed. The scoring in the red zone is a problem, but I’m not sure we should be ready to hold that on Romeo. Remember, this is still Haley’s staff running the offense.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
...
1) Actually you can when you contain/pressure the QB and cover well, IE the gameplan for the day. Many of the drops were because of great coverage, hurried throws and knocking the timing off between Rodgers & his WRs
2) Like that matters, Hali still would’ve feasted and Houston was going 15 rounds with Bulaga. You can’t depend on something like that, but these kinds of things happen all the time.
3) I agree, but him getting all that time was because of a successful gameplan. Packers were so afraid to blitz because of the successful screens.
4) I don’t think that is a worry, Crennel knows how to prepare the players and we’ve got divisional opponents the next few weeks. The Raiders-Chiefs game especially, there’s bad blood there after the late dirty shots. The players know what’s up.
5) Yes they did, but a win is still a win. We punched them in the mouth and didn’t back down and did something no other team could do.
6) What can be gleamed from it? That if you give Orton time the WRs will eventually get open? This can be said of any QB in the entire league.
7) How this can be put on the HC I have no idea, our RZ offense is quite literally the worst in the league and has been for a few years now. Rome wasn’t built in a day either. The fact we even reached the RZ should be applauded.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 20, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
It's nice to have some consistency between the 20s, because of mistake free passing, primarily
It’s nice to see that their main issue is now RZ, and a lot of that should shake itself out, with the WRs anticipating what Orton’s going to do. If Breaston “feels” the defender behind him, maybe he’s ready for the up and away pass. Still haven’t really looked at the miss to Bowe on the left side. Not sure what happened, there.
What’s big, to me, is they didn’t force any passes into coverage. Orton didn’t risk the turnover out of a desire to score.
I think the Chiefs have the talent to punch it in more often. I’d like to see a little more extra G/T sets inside, and make the running threats a little more potent. Maybe even sticking Asamoah in at FB, now and again.
would of ≠ would've
So nobody had tape on Orton
from any of the the other games he played in the NFL?
The Packers forgot they already faced him earlier this year.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
Forget about the one game
The fact that an outside prospect completely blows up the philosophy and the continuity that we’ve built, quite specifically on the defensive side of the ball if the man at the top of the list is Fisher, is the main point. I don’t see a whole lot of realistic candidates out there, and what I do see in Crennel is that guys want to play for him, the transition is for the most part seamless — no rebuilding — and he clearly understands that there is a hole at QB.
As for Orton, despite all his inconsistencies, he’s got more talent around him now than he’s had ever, particularly when he gets JC and TMo back, and unless we get an elite QB from the elite QB tree where they dangle for everyone to get a taste, there isn’t going to be a better rookie or a better FA out there to fill the gap. If we can shore up a few areas of concern that he’s displayed in the past… the RZ issues… he CAN be successful, and we can run the type of game plan we want to run… efficiency between the 20s, and very good running game, somewhere around a top 10 defense, and solid special teams, which can take you far in any division.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
The problem i have with this argument
is that you don’t account for the fact that no other team in the league is the Packers. Yes they had some injuries during the game. Yes they had a case of the drops. Go on down the line. The fact is, we played the defending SB champs tough, at home, and to your 7th point, had we gotten into the end zone on just one of the missed chances, it would have been a two-score victory. When it comes to leadership, I look at trends, and right now, the players and coaches under Romeo’s leadership are trending upward. I don’t care about his being more or less forthcoming in press conferences, that’s for reporters to whine about, but what i HAVE liked in the last week’s pressers is his obvious passion for his players. He cares about them, (he’s said so), and they obviously care about him. Sign him up!
1-5 in the redzone
1-5 in the redzone was the fluke… I never saw Dexter McCluster run up the middle. Looked like he gave his touches to McClain. The playcalling was decent…odds are, we get on a pretty good streak in the redzone.
by ArkansasDave on Dec 21, 2011 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
I dunno
Still a lot of sloppiness, personel mistakes etc in Green Bay.
It’s amazing how a little execution from having a real QB can hide some of the flaws of a team.
I’m not a yay or a nay, but it’s too early to judge now.
by craig in calgary on Dec 20, 2011 5:11 PM CST reply actions
Too early to judge, yes.
But also too early to clean up everything that was wrong with the team.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
I think we saw the one area that Todd had really fixed as the season went.
He started calling plays himself, and that’s why we saw the plays get out there much more efficiently in his last couple of weeks.
Now Romeo is in charge, so the play calling went back to Zorn and/or Muir which was the problem earlier in the year. However, that is the kind of thing that can get sorted out as the team moves forward.
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by citadelchief on Dec 20, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
I saw no issues with play calling or time to get plays in on Sunday
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Orton was racing the clock several times.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Dec 20, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
yeah had to check out a few times and players didn't line up right either
orton did a great job though
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
I think it was more a calculated move to eat up as much game clock as possible.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
If by racing the clock, you mean
getting everyone set at the line and making adjustments down to the final seconds… yeah. that happened. But remember that they wanted to run clock against GB.
And besides that, they were noticeably breaking huddle much faster. The chiefs seemed to control teh pace of the game… first time I remember them doing that all year.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
need to clean up the 12 men on the field shit
we blew a couple to on that
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
Hate to make excuses, but that seems like something you’d expect from a HC that was promoted 6 days prior. Getting the right personnel packages on the field is probably my biggest gripe with him from Sunday.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
special teams
they need to clean things up as well, running into the punter, blocks in the back etc.
Attention: Steve Hoffman
To me, that lies squarely on his shoulders. I’m sure Romeo will address that as a major point of emphasis this week.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
Hoffman was standing next to Romeo all game.
Hmmm….
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Sorta off topic, but interesting non-the-less
Hoffman attended Dickinson College, where he played quarterback, running back, wide receiver, placekicker and punter for the football team and was also a member of the Raven’s Claw Secret Society. He went on to punt for the Washington Federals of the United States Football League in 1983, while also attending training camp with the Washington Redskins, the Seattle Seahawks and the New Orleans Saints.
per Wikipedia
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
yes
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like he's about to join Haley as a full time Golf Course attendant.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
this copper guy at wr were the hell has he been
in haley dog house
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
Copper's been one of Haley's guys from Day 1.
Sticking thru his ST play, and now, finally, getting the nod when he’s single-covered. I think he’s always been better than people credited. The big difference I’m seeing is the ball goes to the single-covered guy, based on what happens on the field, and not based on psychic powers up in the booth by the playcaller. Having Orton in there shows that maybe the playcallers weren’t that bad. They just needed somebody to execute.
would of ≠ would've
Yep.
That’s what good QBs do. Read the defense and throw the ball where it should go accordingly, not where they wish it could go.
by bamachief5558 on Dec 20, 2011 10:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This was probably the only game of the season that we didn't have trouble getting the plays in on time
Don’t know what you’re talking about, it seems that Haley was the main reason for our struggles in getting the play in on time.
The fact that I can say with confidence that we had zero problems getting the plays in on time against the Pack for the first time this season is extremely pathetic.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 20, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Your wrong
That is all.
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by chai1836 on Dec 20, 2011 6:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The next two games
Shouldn’t make a huge difference either way, IMO. I think if they made this hire it would be more about what Romeo has done over the last two years (and what Pioli has known for the last however long they’ve known each other) versus what happens in these three games.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 20, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
Age
Really the only thing going against him. Not that he’s ancient (64), but he is old enough that it’s a consideration. How much longer does Romeo even WANT to coach? How close is he to walking away from football altogether.
I like Romeo, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Pioli went to someone a little younger.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
If you listen to him speak.
It doesn’t sound like he’s close to hanging it up. I really don’t think that’s much of an issue.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
If anything his age indicates that
He’s more likely to be a HC, one more shot before he hangs up the whistle.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 20, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't that why the Chiefs self destructed in the first place?
I had enough of watching them try to give Dick Vermeil one more shot before he hung it up. Look where it got the team. They still haven’t recovered from that debaucle.
by harleyman1200 on Dec 20, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
This isn't the same team though
Or even close to the same situation.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Dec 20, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
That depends on a couple of things though.
1. What is close? 2-3 years? 4-5? Only Romeo knows that. Honestly, I’d really like to hear a reporter ask him that question.
2. As he ages, his health becomes more of an issue. Just a fact of life.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Dec 20, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
And judging by his physique...
Health could definitely become a concern. He needs to lay off that good KC BBQ
by harleyman1200 on Dec 20, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
I agree. Too old...
Romeo is too old. He would just be another bandaid of a hc. We’d be getting someone for 3, maybe 4 years and then starting over again. I want to see someone younger that can be a long term solution.
by harleyman1200 on Dec 20, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
We have the technology, we can rebuild him...
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Dec 20, 2011 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that ageism thing is a bitch.
I hear Pioli doesn’t want anyone over 40. That’s probably why he REALLY got rid of Haley… at 44 he was no spring chicken.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
I think you nailed it!
Next HC: Nick Sirianni
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
If they're rallying around RAC, great
That win was from QB play. We missed TD’s only because of lack of chemistry between Orton and the receivers. The missed Breaston slant, 100% timing. McClain should have caught that one TD as well.
Did GB drop a few balls? Yup. We also dropped a few big plays too, it’s a wash.
I think there is some danger in mortgaging our future based on 3 games.
But results speak for themselves. The team really loves Romeo from everything coming out of Arrowhead this week. He’ll be able to learn from his mistakes he made in Cleveland, and won’t be in a constant power struggle over personnel like Todd was. He could set us up for 4-6 years of success, but I don’t anticipate him being here longer than that. Maybe I’m wrong.
I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.
by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Dec 20, 2011 5:22 PM CST reply actions
I think there is some danger in mortgaging our future based on 3 games.
You mean like the 3 game cinderella run that Arizona went on?
Yeah, I agree.
by craig in calgary on Dec 20, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
You have to be careful in these types of situations.
I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.
by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Dec 20, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah but we're not basing it all on these three games
It’s based on Romeo as a coach in KC for the last two years.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 20, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
I understand.
But being a HC is a whole new ballgame. He’s done a fantastic job with the defense, and I’m not saying it wouldn’t be a good move. I’m just saying you have to analyze it properly, and actually sit Romeo down and talk with him if you’re Scott Pioli and see what he says about coaching this team moving forward. I think the job is already his if he wants it.
I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.
by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Dec 20, 2011 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
Making a commitment is what I should've said.
I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.
by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Dec 20, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
Mortgaging the future could also be seen as risking disrupting the defensive continuity already in place.
I may not be against a HC that isn’t Romeo, but it sure as shit better not be anyone that will disrupt the defense. If they bring in a different HC, it needs to be an offensive guy that is willing to mostly leave the D to Romeo.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
If we bring in Fisher
and try to switch back to a 4-3 I’m going to shoot myself
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Dec 20, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone hear the part when he was asked if he was committed to the 3-4?
The answers was (paraphrase) “Pretty much, I’ve ran some 4-3, but my base is the 3-4”
Doesn’t sound like he’s up for switching the base defense, at all.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
vermeil was a good coach
the problem was the chiefs had no de back then. they would score 45 pts but give up 48 pts. they couldn’t stop anybody when it really mattered
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Patience
Romeo is a really good coach. There is no doubt about that. But don’t be so fast to crown him after one game.
I would love to see him take command and run the table. Get a couple of breaks and make it to the playoffs. He’d deserve a crown then. But I’m sure he would agree that it has to be earned. And one game isn’t earning it.
I think he will be the next coach, unless the Chiefs tank the next two games. I think both he and Charlie were brought here for insurance, And if my guess is right, our next OC will be Josh Mc. It’s a Pioli move. He’ll keep continuity on the team. And, pad the next play when Romeo is done.
I see the odds of Romeo being head coach next year as :
Win out … 100%
Lose one … 80%
Lose two
or Get blown out in any … 50%
I hope he wins out.
Orton should be QB next year?
What do you think of his comments that if Orton wins next two games he deserves to be our starter next year? Cant say I disagree but just kind of odd him saying that.
I don't believe he flat out said that.
I believe he laid that out as a possibility. Orton is not even signed for next year.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
i thought it was a ham sandwich and a bowl of soup
he will probably still be here with pioli around
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
That was for Palko.
And I opted to keep my lunch.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
smart move
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
soup is not a meal
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Dec 21, 2011 4:20 AM CST up reply actions
David & Sons
could really help this team.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
STOP THE TRADE CASSEL
Talk. His contract is way too big and there is no way another team pays it. Pii will live and die by Cassel, he has way too much invested in him. Deal with it.
Kansas City Chiefs; Profitable Mediocrity since 1969.
If the Chiefs hire Josh McDaniels, I will cancel my season tickets.
by chai1836 on Dec 20, 2011 6:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hey now...
Quit talking about hypotheticals. That’s not what this site is all about. We deal in facts ONLY. If you’re not an expert with an inside scoop on the organization, go somewhere else. That’s just the way it is, so deal with it.
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Dec 20, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
Stop the "contract is way too big" talk.
It’s just not.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
I haven't looked at the details in a while, but I thought his contract (like most) was really front-loaded.
I think he’s a lot cheaper than most think.
by ChiefsFetish on Dec 20, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
People hear $60M, and act like he's being paid that every year.
His guaranteed money has already been paid, and his yearly money is not that much by today’s standards.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
I think it's only between 5-7 mill/year right now.
Plus, he would probably restructure his deal if he got traded if it meant he could go start somewhere else. So yeah, CONTINUE THE CASSEL TRADE TALK..
by ChiefsFetish on Dec 20, 2011 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
What are you talking about?
His contract from here on out isn’t large at all…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
If we win the next 2...
the chance on drafting top tier QB falls drastically… and I’m not comfortable going into 2012 with just Cassel and Stanzi.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
orton not going anywhere
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn’t be so sure. Pioli loves him some Matt Cassel. It’s one or the other.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
no orton stays
i understand what u are saying, but if orton stays hot there no way he leaves or should he want to leave.
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
u might be mad when i say this but
palko will be gone
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
speaking of mcgraw is he back this week
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Not if we win the last 2.
The QB salary in KC is going to be pretty high…
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
They can walk away from Cassel without taking a huge hit.
They can afford him as a back-up without it being a huge deal, too.
would of ≠ would've
Yeah, and I'm fine with either plan.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
i think orton the qb now
with all the weapons coming back, if i’m kyle orton i want to come back. orton fell right into a great situation when the chiefs claimed him
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Bills
I guess I’ll have to keep my Buckfuffalo shirt in the closet. Man, would this be a turnaround season if the stars align just right. Wishing upon a star I know
06 miracle
anything can happen
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
I was at that game at Arrowhead. I remember listening to the radio on the ride home, not believing the events that were unfolding.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
yeah we closed the bar , had to watch the 49er donkey game tell the end.
what a day that was, i never seen so many things go right for kc that day.
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Dec 20, 2011 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
If there is any perceptable difference that counts for me: Romeo=LEADERSHIP....
Haley=Manager. The current players seem to be responding to leadership at the moment, but long term, difficult to judge as players and contract issues change out.
if at first you don't succeed....Charlie Weis is soon to leave
Still a little to early to judge, but
Did you see how the players gathered around him and they really played hard for him. I have no issue with giving romeo the HC job.
Hey you guys:
I think Kyle Orton has created an AP account.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
I think the Chiefs will win Saturday................
I have to work again!
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From now on
I think u should voluntare every time the chiefs play!!!
by albuquerquechiefsfan on Dec 21, 2011 12:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I was totally opposed to the firing of Haley...
the next worst thing this team could do would be to fire Crennel. Not that I’m sold on him being the answer but I truly believe that this team is only a few pieces away from being a contender. To bring in a new coach who has no loyalty to these players or schemes would be taking a huge step backwards IMHO. It should be Crennel’s job to lose but he should be on a short leash. I don’t think that he should get the typical “3 year window” to put up or shut up. This team needs to be in the playoffs next year! With our salary cap space, if Manning was released and we signed him does anyone here think that we couldn’t compete for a championship next year???
This whole "Primetime actually take a stance" thing is throwing me off
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
I'm sure its just Jeff Dunham with a hand up his ass to the 5th knuckle.
Primetime doesn’t post opinion pieces.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
He's done it about 5 times in the last couple of days
I’m afraid.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
The players won't have it any other way.
They want Romeo to be the coach. They know the way to make that happen is to ball out the last 2 games. I think we are going to be jacked about this team going into the off season because of what we see in the final weeks.
I know it's Raider week but..............................

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Broncos playing the 4-3 now?
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
by Tarkus on Dec 20, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Naw its a zone blitz... see on of the linemen dropping back into coverage...
Nothin' quite like hearing 78k plus chanting "We're gonna BEAT the hell OUTTA YOU YOU"
by Copperhead Road on Dec 20, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
*one
Nothin' quite like hearing 78k plus chanting "We're gonna BEAT the hell OUTTA YOU YOU"
by Copperhead Road on Dec 20, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
I am trying to decide which one is John
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Second from the right.
He’s obviously a leader.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
What is Colquitt yelling at something?
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
why*
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions

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