Chiefs Beat Packers: Five Good Stats
by Joel Thorman on Dec 19, 2011 12:30 PM CST
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs kept the defending Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers from perfection on Sunday in a 19-14 victory. We look at five good (and bad) stats following each game and this set of stats is very balanced. Both the Chiefs offense and defense did very good things on Sunday.
Here are five good stats from the Sunday stunner for the Chiefs:
36:11. Chiefs time of possession. The best way to beat Aaron Rodgers? Keep him off the field. The Chiefs offense moved efficiently, quickly getting the play calls in and getting to the line of scrimmage but they were also able to sustain drives and hang onto the ball. This might go down as the most important stat of the game for the Chiefs, something Kyle Orton hinted at in his postgame press conference.
9.6. Yards per passing play. This is usually under five, at least with the Tyler Palko-led Chiefs. But Orton's presence created a legitimate threat for the Chiefs, especially in the medium range passing game. 23-of-31 passing for 299 yards is not only a very accurate game but one in which the Chiefs were able to move the ball up and down the field.
0. First half points for the Packers. That's the first time the Packers have gone scoreless in the first half since their 2010 season finale against the Chicago Bears. Yes, the Chiefs played better against the Packers in the first half than anyone has in nearly a year. Holding the Packers scoreless in the first quarter was also a victory as only three other teams have done that this year. The Chiefs showed up from start to finish and made a statement in the first half. The Packers receivers dropped a few balls but credit the Chiefs ability to push around the Green Bay receivers in this one.
4. Sacks by the Chiefs defense. To beat the Packers you have to A.) pressure Aaron Rodgers and B.) play good coverage. The Chiefs did both of those and they were able to due in large part to Tamba Hali, who had a three-sack game. He was a constant pressure, as were the Chiefs other linebackers. Allen Bailey, in particular, drilled Rodgers right up the middle on one play. The Chiefs pass rush is getting stronger as the season goes on.
10. Different Chiefs receivers that caught a pass. I didn't expect that, not from a new quarterback. Kyle Orton spread the ball around wonderfully, including somehow, someway making Leonard Pope an integral part of the passing game. The Chiefs passing offense seemed like a strength for the first time in....well, a long time.
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The chiefs passing game was a threat since....Trent Green
and the best show crew led by Vermeil – let’s bring him back as the OC – both he and RAC can cry together.
My favorite stat from yesterday.
19-14.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
by MtHammer on Dec 19, 2011 12:34 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
no 1st read and...
for the first time in along time dump passes to th rb wasnt the norm. that was great to see. also, for the first time in awhile i never thought about stanzi durning the game.
After seeing Orton play good
I hope Pioli will end the Cassal experiment.
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
If he refuses to part ways with Cassel because he is “tied to him”, then Clark Hunt should relieve Pioli of his duties. Plain & simple.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
by ExRoyalsFan on Dec 19, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Orton has had good games and bad games at Chicago and Denver.
I think he has more tools here than those places. We might see a lot more Good than bad if he sticks. It will at least take the sting out of missing out on one of the top 3 names coming out of this years QB class.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Depends how Orton plays next
two games
by Bigcherokeechief on Dec 19, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Here's another number... 13
Number of holding calls on Tambe Hali not called yesterday. That big pass for the Packers just killed me. The blocker had him around the freaking neck from behind.
The one that pissed me off
was when Rodgers was in the end zone and his tackle was behind Hali with his arm around Hali’s neck. Should have been a safety. Gotta call that.
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Dec 19, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
It all works out in the end
The refs were trying to make it even for the non called Leonard Pope fumble in the endzone..
"It's still real to me dammit!"
Nevermind the fact
he stepped out of bounds before losing it….
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
The ball was loose before he went out of bounds.
Doesn’t matter, though. The Chiefs would have won by 2 instead of 5.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
There was some significant clock run while we tried to punch it in and failed...
And yeah, that should have been a touchback. But I’ve seen more than enough of those plays go against the Chiefs that I’m not upset at all about getting away with this one.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Not what I saw...
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
And according to league rules...
he had established control of the ball, while shifting it (thus prompting the loss of the ball) he stepped out. Foot down + hand on ball = deal ball.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
Not only was Orton fanstastic
and looked like a real qb….our o-line hardly let anyone get a hand on him. I think Orton got hit like 1-2 times if my memory serves me correctly….amazing game overall!
Orton was hit only once
and completed the pass for a first down.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Dec 19, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yup, and it wasn't just because he got rid of the ball quick, he had some good time in the pocket.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Anyone else see Anthony Bourdain at the game yesterday?
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Dec 19, 2011 12:51 PM CST reply actions
Not sure.
Since I don’t know who that is.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
No Reservations guy
World renowned chef & author
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Dec 19, 2011 12:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yea that guy, has his own show on the Travel channel.
Saw him when we were walking into the game. Had a camera man and a guy w/a boom walking next to him. Jus
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Dec 19, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
he's been here the last week.
My friend at the Savoy got to meet, eat, and work for him for the entire day as he was shooting a bit there. black keys were also present, and mingled with everyone while the shooting was happening. Figured he’d stay for the game, as she told him to go, that the chiefs would surprise everyone.
My first impression was that our coverage > our pass rush.
The pass rush was very good, but I was really impressed with our coverage. One thing Rodgers is annoyingly good at is pre-snap reads and getting the ball out in about two seconds. It looked like we didn’t allow him to do that at all yesterday.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Unfortunately, there's no "smother" statistic for DBs.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
yep. press coverage and safety over the top.
gotta disrupt timing of the west coast offense; make the receiver take longer to get to his spot. If other teams don’t do that against the Packers from now on out, they aren’t taking notes. Props to Romeo Crennel for doing the little things.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Well you need need two top corners to make that work
by Bigcherokeechief on Dec 19, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Pay Brandon Carr
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Dec 19, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
our man coverage was outstanding.
Jammed em up at the LOS, & threw off the timing of their routes. Carr, Flowers & co took care of some bidness.
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Dec 19, 2011 1:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, where is the love for our safeties?
Even Sabby wasn’t horrible, though he did give up the one big play.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
You mean the pick he dropped?
Since it was 4th down, that was a good thing.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
Yeah, if he did it on purpose, that would be one thing.
But when you’re trying to make the catch, you should.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
What he should have done was see and smack the TE who almost caught that.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
You could say he also prevented a TD on that early long pass.
I like your new signature, by the way. It’s pretty cool he feels that way without even throwing one TD.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
He was beat.
But he did grab his right arm just in time (probably a bit early actually) to keep him from extending to catch the ball.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
Yah, I think that might've been PI if it hadn't been out of the refs sight range.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Yes, he did!
Ten different receivers. That’s Brady-good.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
He sure did
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Dec 19, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
He caught two!
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I only remember one.
But Pope had two big catches.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
Becht had a short dump-off catch where he barreled into the defender.
I remember it because I thought it was funny, looked like he could have just run around the guy but I guess he doesn’t have the moves anymore.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Yeah, I remember that one.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
Hey, too many completions to remember! Woohoo!
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
And for all you Jalil Brown supporters, did ya see the GB TD play?? We need Carr back
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
Every corner gets beat every once in awhile
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Dec 19, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Eh, he's a rookie. But yeah, he's no Carr at this point.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
He did make a huge tackle on STs yesterday.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
Yah, typical rookie. One big play followed by two screw-ups, usual rookie stuff.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I was talking about that earlier w/some coworkers...
I know the guy wants a big payday but they need to give it to him
You can't be fat and fast, too; so lift, run, diet and work.
Hank Stram
"Winning isn't everything, but it beats anything that comes in second."
--Paul "Bear" Bryant
by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Dec 19, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Good stat: TONS of open receivers.
I know GB’s defense is bad, but I don’t remember the last time I saw so many OPEN Chiefs receivers.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I bet I know what the first bad stat will be.
I’m just not sure how Joel will frame three possessions inside GB’s five yard line resulting in six total points.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Were you there?
Is Joel right about the Cheesehead take-over, or was that just fan-service to Mrs. Primetime?
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Was it?
I’m not being a dick, but it seemed pretty pro-GB.
It was quite loud when we were in the red zone.
by craig in calgary on Dec 19, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
they certianly yelled Clue very good..
by Bigcherokeechief on Dec 19, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it was pretty funny when DJ tackled him in the backfield.
You could hear it die off, “KUUUuuuhnnn….awww…”
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Tons of green...and way too many cheeseheads.
Generally decent fans. But still…hate to see more than the occasional opposing team jersey in our house. Seems to be a growing trend, though. Only consistent winning will eliminate the problem.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
Yeah, they are legitimate travellers.
Unlike Cowboys “fans,” who don’t travel at all but just depend on embedded bandwagoners to wear their jerseys.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
by Brsrkr on Dec 19, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What about
Succoup’s perfect game and Colquitt only punting 2 times!!! 2 TIMES!!!!
What is that now, like 20 in a row for Succop?
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
judging by the TV shots of the fans
and the stadium, I’d estimate it was 60-40 in favor of Chiefs fans…
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Hmm, not good for us.
Winning a few would fix that. But, it did seem like I saw more red than usual in that damn yellow ring.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
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Times Kyle Orton was sacked.
by Lee Gardner III on Dec 19, 2011 1:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
It helps
When the QB doesn’t panic under pressure, goes through his progressions, looks down field, and doesn’t take forever to throw. And I will give the O-Line credit they did a great job in pass protection.
by Lee Gardner III on Dec 19, 2011 2:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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Times I yelled at Todd Haley and Tyler Palko.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
by Tarkus on Dec 19, 2011 1:31 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I'm still yelling at Haley for dumping our season
One more friggin win anywhere and we’re in control of this division… thanks for blowing off the first couple weeks, Todd. Good plan.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
I just meant during the game.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
How is Todd going to succeed with you yelling at him all the time
by Bigcherokeechief on Dec 19, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Had to watch it at the local sports bar...
DISH Network gives me Chicago FOX, so I couldn’t watch at home. There were exactly TWO Chiefs’ fans in the entire bar; my wife and I. She had to go, so that left me.
It was one of the best times I’ve ever had. I even bought the remaining GB fans a beer after the game, and it only cost me forty bucks. :-)
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
early in the game on the play that
Hali sacked Rodgers and the ball came out, a GB lineman picked it up and got drilled, dropped it again, and DJ and others dove into the pile, I was clapping and cheering. My wife turns around and looks, and says “all the Green Bay fans are craning their necks to see who in the heck is cheering!”
I was polite and respectful, but just LOVED every chance I had to clap and say “Let’s Go Chiefs!”
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Orton's YPA is about 3 more than Cassel's 6.4 this year
Also, I put this in another post but Orton threw for more yards yesterday than Cassel has in all but 3 games his entire time here. Yup, Cassel has only thrown for over 300 yards 3 times in 3 years or 39 games.
2009 wk 15 against Cleveland = 331 yds (loss)
2010 wk 10 in the blowout loss to the Broncos = 469yds
2010 week 16 against Tenn = 314 yds (win)
The 9.6 is also higher than Cassel has thrown in all but 1 game as a Chiefs (He’s had a 9.3, 9.2, and a 9.0 though.)
2010 Wk 7 against Jacksonville, 10.7
This is all still to small of a sample to be given a lot of weight. We will need to see what Orton does the next 2 games. Orton does have a career average of 6.6 so I’m not saying he’s a savior but he looked a lot better than Cassel has in almost any game with us.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
by Fozzyboyd on Dec 19, 2011 1:49 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Also, GB's defense is pretty bad this year.
Oakland and Denver will be good tests.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Yup.
I’m trying to be patient and wait to see how he does the last two games… but IDC I’m already on the sign Orton bandwagon. Hope he keeps it up so I don’t ever have to watch Matt Cassel in a Chiefs uniform again.
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Dec 19, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Well niether of these two teams have Charles Woodson either
should help some.
game
The differance tne game plan …they played to win not to lose.know all genie
Patience
I know this win feels amazing, and I want to hire that beautiful man Romeo as much as the rest of you. If he can get our guys energized, prevent blowouts like we’ve seen, AND win at least one out of the last two, give him the job.
Oakland might lay down for us, but Denver will be ready. Especially if they lose next week.
I feel good about the future of Kansas City right now. Couldn’t say as much last week at this time.
Im giving credit to Romeo and that DEF!
All year that Defense has brought us back, or kept us in games. This has to be give Crennell a 2 to 3 year deal for the HC job. The decision alone not to play Palko was already a step up from Todd Hailey’s recognition of a competent QB!
WE STILL NEED TO DRAFT A QB FOR THE FUTURE!
bUT I SEE CRENNEL TURNING THIS DEFENSE INTO AN ELITE DEFENSIVE TEAM. LIKE 49ERS, RAVENS, AND THE STEELERS!
Here's a good number.....ZERO (0).
As in:
0 Interceptions thrown by Orton.
0 fumbles by chiefs.
0 sacks given up by O-Line.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Was it just me, or did the offensive play calling seem to be much more open yesterday as well?
When Haley was there I felt like I knew the next play coming up, but yesterday I thought they did a good job of keeping Green Bay of balance. Do we know who called the game? Was there a change?
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
Muir called the plays.
So yes, there was a change.
"This was about the most fun as I’ve had on the football field." - Kyle Orton
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