One Positive Post about McD, for Balance

by Brett Chamberlain on Dec 16, 2011 1:56 PM CST

There is somewhat of a disparity between fans here and NFL pundits out there. They all say McD is the front runner, and some of them say he deserves it. The consensus (91%) here is that we don't want him. I'm going to try and change your mind on that.

McD was hired by Denver in January of 2009. So the first thing to look at is what did he do for Denver's personnel? First off he got rid of Brandon Marshall, Jay Cutler, and Peyton Hillis. Were these bad moves? Marshall is good yes, but McDaniels got 2 second round picks for him, and Marshall is a diva, not something we would want in our program. Cutler is now with the bears and I know plenty of Chicago fans who are not happy with him. He is not exactly an elite quarterback. He is good, yes, but I really don't think he is ever going to take his team to the Super Bowl. Hillis had one very good year and that's about it. He hasn't done anything other than in his 2010 campaign. McDaniels also brought in Orton who also looked pretty good for the 2009 season, and Brady Quinn, who is a serviceable backup.

In the '09 draft they picked up Moreno (starter for 2 years), Ayers (still a starter), Alphonso Smith (starting for Detroit, but a good player), and a bunch of players who didn't really pan out. But he only had a few months and that first draft can't really be blamed on him. Anyway, the Broncos still managed to finish 8-8. That isn't too bad for a new HC in a transition year.

Then in 2010 he drafted Thomas (starter), Tebow (starter), Beadles (starter), Walton (starter), and Decker (starter). That's five starters from one draft. He also drafted Parrish Cox next who would probably be starting if it weren't for his off the field troubles. You may question many things, but he knew what he was doing with personnel. He wasn't trying to build a team that was going to be good tomorrow, he was trying to build a team that was going to be great for years to come. Yes, Denver imploded the next year. However, the pieces were put in place then that allowed Denver to be successful now. Pioli and McD know how to build a franchise. They know how to do what Pittsburgh, New York, and New England do year after year.

McDaniels is probably going to be our new head coach. The guy knows football and knows personnel. He had some growing pains in Denver, and I think we all agree no one could coach up those boys in StL (they are just bad). Pioli and him both know football, and how to build a winning program. Just grit your teeth while he makes seemingly stupid moves that somehow pan out for us 2 years down the road when we are winning playoff games.

I am the 9%.

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That picture made me die a little inside.

That said I think he will be part of the organization in one way or another.

by Helmets on Dec 16, 2011 2:41 PM CST reply actions

Yeah the picture made me throw up in my mouth a little

I don’t want him on the Chiefs, especially as a HC.

Maybe we should bring him in as a Scout…

But I do think he will probably find his way here, because I think he is about to be fired… outside of Scout, i’d Say QB Coach

by GracieKal on Dec 16, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions

Scout? Are you joking?

If he doesn’t stay in Stl he’ll end up here as OC (or HC), or in New England as OC. NE would love to have him back.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Dec 16, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions

Yes I was joking

by GracieKal on Dec 16, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

ah, ok

from some people here it would be a literal suggestion, so I had to make sure.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Dec 16, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions

Also I'd take him as OC over Muir

However I’d rather Zorn be OC and have him replace Zorn as QB Coach

by GracieKal on Dec 16, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

I agree with the post

And other than getting Cowher, which won’t happen, he’s probably the best candidate outside of the organization. Now my preference would be to have Romeo retained as HC & McD to come in as OC, but I’m not sure a lateral move is going to work out.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Dec 16, 2011 2:51 PM CST reply actions

I could easily see that lateral move happening. They are going to clean house in St. Louis and McD will be available.

by Crown Chief on Dec 16, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions

The only way I see McD making a lateral move here

is if he is the HC in waiting. I think RAC is about 60-65 which means he wouldn’t be the HC for to much longer.

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.

by KingChief on Dec 16, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions

hire him in personnel then and not as head coach

I’m still not convinced he’ll be a good head coach. Of course if he gets hired I’m behind him 100% like I will be behind whoever gets hired. It’s not like I hate him, I just think Brady made him look good in NE and he has been marginal elsewhere.

by aFan4Life on Dec 16, 2011 2:52 PM CST reply actions

I do think McDaniels takes way more shit than he should with personnel moves.

Getting rid of Cutler was dumb, but Marshall and Hillis are trouble and guys that even Haley probably would’ve wanted gone. Tebow, Thomas, and Decker are looking pretty solid right now. Overall, he still sucks, but his moves weren’t nearly as bad as some make them out to be.

And how many people can say they’ve drafted Jesus?

by ChiefsFetish on Dec 16, 2011 5:56 PM CST reply actions

you forgot to mention

He trade back up in the 2nd round in 09(in exchange for a 1st round pick) to get Smith.He then later traded Smith a year later ,for a backup TE!! He traded Peyton Hills and a 6th round pick for Brady Quin.He drafted Knowshon Moreno and Robert Ayers in the top 15 in 09.Both were considered reached and haven’t produced anything so far. Moreno is a 3rd down back and Ayers is a special teams player.

He signs 5 former Patriots ,none of which made any impact.He drafts a blocking FB (Richard Quin) in the 2nd round! Sam Bradford went from pro bowl type player ,to bust in 1year under him.He signed qb Chri Simms to a lucritive contract.He got rid of TE Tony Scheffler ,an above average TE.He went 2-6 after a 6-2 start in 09.He ran off DC Mike Nolan,despite the fact Denver had a much improved defense under him in 09.He fired his 30 year old brother as QB coach ,who was coaching at a High school before he got the job.http://www.joshmcdanielssucks.com/timeline/

The guy is a failure in every walk of life.Yet,he is Piolis 1st choice,god help us all

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Dec 16, 2011 9:32 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

Regardless any of our other disagreements, I totally agree with you about McD...and...

Love the pic!

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Dec 17, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions

Tebow was a reach, too

regardless of what you think about him as a starter, everything I’ve heard about that draft is that no one else would have picked Tebow until the 4th.

13.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 17, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions